From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 4 Jan 2002 03:17:40 -0000 Issue 351 Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:18 PM krnet Digest 4 Jan 2002 03:17:40 -0000 Issue 351 Topics (messages 8294 through 8317): photos 8294 by: Tim Brown Re: Cowl depth 8295 by: Philip J. Visconti Re: 1st run 8296 by: Mike Heating tents for kr2 parts. 8297 by: Parley Byington 8298 by: Daniel Heath tuning the POSA video 8299 by: Oscar Zuniga MOUNTING A REVMASTER 8300 by: Seifert, Richard E Re: Update 8301 by: Robert Stone Panasonic Battery // Taxi Testing 8302 by: Rick Junkin 8303 by: cartera Re: kr2 kit for sale 8304 by: Mark Langford Taxi Testing 8305 by: Sean Clay KR accident in South Africa? 8306 by: Serge VIDAL 8310 by: David R. Christensen 8311 by: Serge VIDAL CHT / EGT for VW engine 8307 by: Serge VIDAL 8308 by: Daniel Heath 8309 by: David R. Christensen VW 2 liter oil temperature 8312 by: Serge VIDAL 8313 by: Mike Mims 8314 by: David R. Christensen 8316 by: Stuart Deal KR 1 for sale 8315 by: Preben Rafn-Larsen Kr in the press 8317 by: John & Elaine Roffey Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:09:44 -0800 (PST) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: photos Message-ID: <20020102020944.23368.qmail@web9503.mail.yahoo.com> First, thanks to David Mullins for the info re the photos at my site. I have spent all day re-scanning and loading on my site. David...the photos aren't professional but I think you will notice an improvement. http://www.angelfire.com/super/timkr2s Second, those of you that have gone to my site and saw the photos that sparkled my like to re-visit for the new and improved version. Finally...elevator cables all connected to stick and now thinking about the aileron controls for the stub wings...then flap assembly. Thanks guys for the help and input. Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:27:09 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Philip J. Visconti" Subject: Fw: Re: Cowl depth Message-ID: <20020102.002710.-330733.3.viscan@juno.com> Dan, I'm sending this to krnet so Jerry will get a copy. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Philip J. Visconti To: DanRH@att.net Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:01:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Cowl depth Dan, Your cowling seems about right. I'll check about shipping costs today. The Revmaster engine measures 29 inches from prop hub to end of mag that sticks out the back. I need to find a motor mount for the Revmaster. The HAPI accessory case and motor mount won't fit the Revmaster. Revmaster accessory case has a mounting hole pattern that is rectangular. The HAPI pattern is trapezoidal. See attached drawing. Phil ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:39:55 -0500 To: From: "Mike" Subject: Re: KR> 1st run Message-ID: <002c01c1934f$ed95c700$a94583ac@h3n8o4> If I'm not badly mistaken I think I read on here a few months ago about a guy who had sold a subaru firewall fwd to a guy who taxied without stubs and he got airborne. I would prefer to have wings if I fly yes good advise. LMAO. ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Heath To: cartera ; Sean Clay Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 8:03 AM Subject: Re: KR> 1st run > Everyone should heed that advise. Never taxi test with the wings off. You > could loose your plane and maybe your life. > > Daniel R. Heath > > WWW.EAA242.ORG > > See our KR2 at: > > www.JerryMahurin.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cartera" > To: "Sean Clay" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:02 AM > Subject: Re: KR> 1st run > > > > Hi Sean the the KR Group, > > Not sure of your history on your engine but it may a good idea > > to go through a break-in period and I would suggest if your doing > > taxi tests do it with the wings on. Good Luck! > > > > Sean Clay wrote: > > > > > > Well i finally got out to the airport with the new KR1. It doesnt have a > > > starter so after a little hand propping (about 5 spins) it fired and > idled > > > perfectly After letting it warm up I did a few taxi tests nothing fancy > just > > > getting comfortable everything checked out well just a few sputters on > the > > > engine but ill work those out tomorrow I think its cause its been > sitting so > > > long. What I did com to conclude is I think its easier to leave the > wings on > > > it and leave her at the airport. After getting it loaded and unloaded > and > > > wings on I only had 30 minutes of daylight but still had fun. Ill be > back at > > > it again tomorrow : ) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > -- > > Adrian VE6AFY > > Calgary, Alberta > > Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca > > http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:13:31 -0800 To: From: "Parley Byington" Subject: Heating tents for kr2 parts. Message-ID: <003701c19354$c4ebacc0$206df1d8@parley> ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C19311.8C28DD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fellow Kr-2 builders: Many years ago while building my Kr-2, in southern Idaho during = winter time and -30 F outside temperature, I too had problems with = keeping the area warm enough for the resin to cure. Sooo, I went down = to the local building store and bought several 4 X 8 X 3/4 urethane = insulation sheets, the kind with silver tinfoil on each side. I used = these sheets to build a insulation tent around the parts I was glassing. = Once the tent was constructed, it was quite easy to keep the inside = temperature at whatever I set the thermostat on the oil filled electric = heater. These oil filled radiator type electric heaters cost about $50.00 at = Lowes or Builder's Square and they don't have any open flames to ignite = dust, fumes, etc. Sometimes just a 100W bulb inside is enough to keep = the parts above 70 degrees, depending on how big the tent is and how = cold the garage is. Hope this might help some one out there, all the comments about = building in the cold weather bring back memories of those days. I am = sure glad all that sanding and construction has been done for awhile now = on mine. =20 Good luck to all those still in the construction phase, Oh by the = way, I too tried to taxi my plane without the wings ONE TIME. I do not = recommend doing this, it was the most squarly two minutes I ever had on = the ground. I also was on a big dry lake with plenty of room in all = directions wich was a good thing. =20 Regards and happy New Year God Bless America Parley Byington (Kr-2 N54PB) parley@anv.net Henderson, Nv. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C19311.8C28DD60-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:28:11 -0500 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Heating tents for kr2 parts. Message-ID: <000e01c19380$900cf5f0$2b2c5d0c@scana.com> That is a really good idea. I have been thinking about that, but couldn't think of what to use. You could easily build a tent to cover the entire fuselage with that stuff. Last night, I put a blanket over it which helped. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parley Byington" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: KR> Heating tents for kr2 parts. Fellow Kr-2 builders: Many years ago while building my Kr-2, in southern Idaho during winter time and -30 F outside temperature, I too had problems with keeping the area warm enough for the resin to cure. Sooo, I went down to the local building store and bought several 4 X 8 X 3/4 urethane insulation sheets, the kind with silver tinfoil on each side. I used these sheets to build a insulation tent around the parts I was glassing. Once the tent was constructed, it was quite easy to keep the inside temperature at whatever I set the thermostat on the oil filled electric heater. These oil filled radiator type electric heaters cost about $50.00 at Lowes or Builder's Square and they don't have any open flames to ignite dust, fumes, etc. Sometimes just a 100W bulb inside is enough to keep the parts above 70 degrees, depending on how big the tent is and how cold the garage is. Hope this might help some one out there, all the comments about building in the cold weather bring back memories of those days. I am sure glad all that sanding and construction has been done for awhile now on mine. Good luck to all those still in the construction phase, Oh by the way, I too tried to taxi my plane without the wings ONE TIME. I do not recommend doing this, it was the most squarly two minutes I ever had on the ground. I also was on a big dry lake with plenty of room in all directions wich was a good thing. Regards and happy New Year God Bless America Parley Byington (Kr-2 N54PB) parley@anv.net Henderson, Nv. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:11:58 To: corvaircraft@usm.edu, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: tuning the POSA video Message-ID: Happy 2002, folks; I'm trying to locate my 'Tuning the POSA' video. I think I lent it out to someone who was going to copy it, and now I don't know where it is. If you've got it, please email me off-net. Thanks! Oscar Zuniga Medford, Oregon mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:03:12 -0800 To: "'KRnet'" From: "Seifert, Richard E" Subject: MOUNTING A REVMASTER Message-ID: <9BA7A06DA8127B4B925954F3F8705D349F8089@XCH-SW-09.sw.nos.boeing.com> Philip J. Visconti wrote; Yes, I know the subject title is misleading, but I need help. I have a HAPI accessory case and motor mount. Does anyone know if either, or both, can be used to put a Revmaster engine on a KR-2 ? Phil You can bolt the HAPI accessory case to the Revmaster engine and use the HAPI engine mount but you will have to use the HAPI alternator and Slick mag. You will also need to adapt a starter. I have been running a HAPI setup for many years and would recommend you stick with the Revmaster units if you have them. There are a number of problems with the HAPI flywheel alternator and solid state regulator and parts replacement will be a problem. The HAPI Bosh starter was marginal on a stock 1600cc engine and totally unacceptable on your larger Revmaster. You didn't say, but your Revmaster is probably duel ignition via the Bendix mag where the Slick fires a single set of plugs. In short, it can be done, but will require a lot of extra work and money. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:24:35 -0600 To: "Mark Jones" , "KR-Net" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Update Message-ID: <001b01c193a9$f8866d40$ebd8fea9@pavilion> Mark: Don't get in too much of a hurry. Remember the old saying "Haste makes waste" and it can also lead to errors that you may discover at 10,000 feet. This you do not need. Be patient and do it right. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rlspjs@dashlink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: KR> Update > For the last four days I have been building my turtle deck. Made > templates, blocked up the polyurethane foam, got out the sureform tool > and got my rough shape and then sanded, sanded, sanded , sanded and even > sanded some more. It is very close to being ready to glass and for the > last couple of hours I have just sat there and looked at her. She is > really starting to look like an airplane and that excites me and makes > me want to get more and more done. Man do I want to fly this thing!!! > -- > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at mailto:flykr2s@execpc.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:23:29 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Rick Junkin" Subject: Panasonic Battery // Taxi Testing Message-ID: Hello all, It's been a long time, I haven't had anything worth contributing so I've been lurking. But no I have a question... I lost the post regarding the 17 ah Panasonic battery. Could one of you kind souls please forward it to me? Thanks. Regarding taxi testing -- I recommend that you have your airplane in the same configuration you will use for your first flight, to include at least an hour's worth of fuel on board, before you do ANY taxi testing. I believe the post that caught my attention was about a newly acquired, completed airplane, but the same rules apply. If you don't have complete confidence in the airframe, inspect, repair and test it until you do (in a static environment). If you don't have complete confidence in the engine, work on it and test it until you do. And don't start taxi testing until everything else is right. Low speed taxi testing is no exception, as problems in the fuel system/throttle rigging you didn't observe during engine ground testing could turn your slow, controlled movements around the ramp into your first flight. Plan for the worst case, and you'll be prepared to survive just about any anomoly. I've got my project moved into a hangar now, perhaps a bit prematurely, but my wife's van fits in the garage now (same song, different verse...). I'm really looking forward to the progress I'll make this spring. Working on the instrument panel presently, pictures to follow. Cheers, Rick Junkin rickjunkin@hotmail.com St. Charles MO _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:03:28 -0700 To: Rick Junkin From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Panasonic Battery // Taxi Testing Message-ID: <3C3391C0.280A82@cuug.ab.ca> AMEN! How's Rick? Happy, Healthy New Year! Rick Junkin wrote: > > Hello all, > > It's been a long time, I haven't had anything worth contributing so I've > been lurking. But no I have a question... > > I lost the post regarding the 17 ah Panasonic battery. Could one of you kind > souls please forward it to me? Thanks. > > Regarding taxi testing -- I recommend that you have your airplane in the > same configuration you will use for your first flight, to include at least > an hour's worth of fuel on board, before you do ANY taxi testing. I believe > the post that caught my attention was about a newly acquired, completed > airplane, but the same rules apply. If you don't have complete confidence in > the airframe, inspect, repair and test it until you do (in a static > environment). If you don't have complete confidence in the engine, work on > it and test it until you do. And don't start taxi testing until everything > else is right. Low speed taxi testing is no exception, as problems in the > fuel system/throttle rigging you didn't observe during engine ground testing > could turn your slow, controlled movements around the ramp into your first > flight. Plan for the worst case, and you'll be prepared to survive just > about any anomoly. > > I've got my project moved into a hangar now, perhaps a bit prematurely, but > my wife's van fits in the garage now (same song, different verse...). I'm > really looking forward to the progress I'll make this spring. Working on the > instrument panel presently, pictures to follow. > > Cheers, > Rick Junkin > rickjunkin@hotmail.com > St. Charles MO > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:01:29 -0600 To: "KRnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Fw: kr2 kit for sale Message-ID: <002201c193f2$2e1dacf0$7600a8c0@athlon600> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C193BF.E2D68230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a KR2 kit for sale. Please email HIM at jbrennan@unr.net , not = me. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jbrennan=20 To: langford@hiwaay.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: kr2 kit I have a KR-2 kit in the 'boat stage' for sale, with all the necessary = parts to finish (less engine/instruments). It has a vw engine mount. = Price is $2,250, negotiable, perhaps. Location is North Florida. (photos = are available)=20 Thanks, "Doc' Brennan ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C193BF.E2D68230-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:52:17 -0800 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Sean Clay" Subject: Taxi Testing Message-ID: I want to thank everyone for all the good input. My second run at the airport was also good. I have picked up speed to about a fast walk what I did find was at idle after about 3-5 minutes the engine give a sudden hesitation or choke as if it is suddenly starved or fludded with fuel at higher rps I found no problem at all I will attempt some adjustments and if all is not perfect that carb will never see the air again I will be at it again tomorrow and friday I dont expect to be airborn for a few more weeks. Thank everyone _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:37:51 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: KR accident in South Africa? Message-ID: <009a01c19436$32c37660$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19442.B1FD3B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read my NOTAMs, for a change, and saw that a KR2 accident has been = reported here in South Africa, at Baragwanath airfield. The report = mentions undercarriage collapse following an off-runway ground strike. = Could anybody tell us more about it? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19442.B1FD3B80-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:41:16 -0700 To: "krnet mailing lists" From: "David R. Christensen" Subject: Fw: KR> KR accident in South Africa? Message-ID: <002701c19464$b391c5c0$70e16441@davec> I had a similar occurrance with my KR-2 during a ground loop off the runway, over the shoulder and down onto a flat area. When the wheels hit the flat ground the gear latch levers tore through the extrusions on the springbar and the gear collapsed. The KR then slid to a stop in a short distance. I think the gear collapse saved the plane and possibly the pilot. I had it flying again in a couple of weeks, good as new. -----Original Message----- From: Serge VIDAL To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:13 AM Subject: KR> KR accident in South Africa? I read my NOTAMs, for a change, and saw that a KR2 accident has been reported here in South Africa, at Baragwanath airfield. The report mentions undercarriage collapse following an off-runway ground strike. Could anybody tell us more about it? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:40:21 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: Fw: KR> KR accident in South Africa? Message-ID: <005301c1946d$2e7ee9e0$c504a8c0@sergevateint> I would really like to know which type of undercarriage that KR had. Serge ----- Original Message ----- From: David R. Christensen To: krnet mailing lists Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Fw: KR> KR accident in South Africa? > I had a similar occurrance with my KR-2 during a ground loop off the runway, > over the shoulder and down onto a flat area. When the wheels hit the flat > ground the gear latch levers tore through the extrusions on the springbar > and the gear collapsed. The KR then slid to a stop in a short distance. I > think the gear collapse saved the plane and possibly the pilot. I had it > flying again in a couple of weeks, good as new. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Serge VIDAL > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:13 AM > Subject: KR> KR accident in South Africa? > > > I read my NOTAMs, for a change, and saw that a KR2 accident has been > reported here in South Africa, at Baragwanath airfield. The report mentions > undercarriage collapse following an off-runway ground strike. Could anybody > tell us more about it? > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:01:44 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: CHT / EGT for VW engine Message-ID: <000901c19446$160da8a0$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C19456.CB3F34E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Due to the very hot and high conditions that prevail here in = Johannesburg, I now have to lean seriously the mixture on my Zenith = carburettor, and the only cues I have for setting are: 1 - Checking the spark plugs regularly 2 - Monitoring the CHT and EGT. The engine is a VW 2 liter (type 4), and so far, I get 650 degrees = Celsius ( 1200 Farenheit) as EGT. How does that sound? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C19456.CB3F34E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:04:00 -0500 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Re: KR> CHT / EGT for VW engine Message-ID: <000c01c1944e$bb8881d0$f42c5d0c@scana.com> Serge, I think that I used to read 1300 EGT, but what I did was to set it by sound and feel and check the EGT. I consistently came up with 1300, so that is what I went with. It also depends on which cylinder you are taking the measurement on. That Zenith may be giving you a more rich mixture to one side. You may want to invest in a switch and 3 more probes to check them all. Daniel R. Heath WWW.EAA242.ORG See our KR2 at: www.JerryMahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:01 AM Subject: KR> CHT / EGT for VW engine Due to the very hot and high conditions that prevail here in Johannesburg, I now have to lean seriously the mixture on my Zenith carburettor, and the only cues I have for setting are: 1 - Checking the spark plugs regularly 2 - Monitoring the CHT and EGT. The engine is a VW 2 liter (type 4), and so far, I get 650 degrees Celsius ( 1200 Farenheit) as EGT. How does that sound? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:30:23 -0700 To: "krnet mailing lists" From: "David R. Christensen" Subject: Fw: KR> CHT / EGT for VW engine Message-ID: <001b01c19463$2ea31f40$70e16441@davec> I have a Revmaster with a Revflow carb with four probes and a switch for both CHT and EGT. My probes are about 7 inches from the cylinders. I get about 100 degrees max difference between leanest and richest cylinders in cruise which changes with throttle setting, but I go by my #3 cylinder which is the leanest in cruise. Cylinder head temperatures have been uninteresting, varying from 300 degrees to 350 degrees on all cylinders. If I had it to do over I would probably not put the extra probes and switch in for CHT but would definitely do it for the EGT. I set my mixture at EGT of 1200 degrees for cruise in the summer. My engine likes a little hotter EGT for cruise of about 1300 degrees in the winter. When I throttle back my EGT drops considerably which I learned is due to the needle geometry but this hasn't been a problem. If I lean too much the engine will stumble momentarily which I try to avoid This tends to occur on climbout on a hot day so I run the mixture full rich and get about 1200 degrees during takeoff and climbout. Sounds like you are in the ball park with the 1200 degrees you are getting. -----Original Message----- From: Serge VIDAL To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: KR> CHT / EGT for VW engine Due to the very hot and high conditions that prevail here in Johannesburg, I now have to lean seriously the mixture on my Zenith carburettor, and the only cues I have for setting are: 1 - Checking the spark plugs regularly 2 - Monitoring the CHT and EGT. The engine is a VW 2 liter (type 4), and so far, I get 650 degrees Celsius 1200 Farenheit) as EGT. How does that sound? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:50:05 +0200 To: From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: VW 2 liter oil temperature Message-ID: <000f01c1946e$71e2ffe0$c504a8c0@sergevateint> ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1947F.13D3F560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And what about oil temperature? My engine runs between 90 and 100 degrees Celsius (that is 194 to 212 = degrees Farenheit). How does that sound? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1947F.13D3F560-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> VW 2 liter oil temperature Message-ID: <20020103165818.15753.qmail@web10801.mail.yahoo.com> What weight oil are you running? Thats close I think, maybe on the warm side. If you are running heavy oil try something lighter and the temps might come down. --- Serge VIDAL wrote: > And what about oil temperature? > > My engine runs between 90 and 100 degrees Celsius > (that is 194 to 212 degrees Farenheit). How does > that sound? > > Serge VIDAL > KR2 ZS-WEC > Johannesburg, South Africa > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:53:50 -0700 To: "krnet mailing lists" From: "David R. Christensen" Subject: Fw: KR> VW 2 liter oil temperature Message-ID: <003701c1947f$9a335f60$65e16441@davec> I like to operate between 180 degrees F and 200 degrees F with my Revmaster in flight. If you have a Revmaster with the toilet paper element you might want to change to an AC PF 20 filter which will spin right on to the same base. My oil temperature came down 10 degrees F when I made the change. The original filter worked fine until I went to change the element and found you couldn't get the one manufactured for the filter because the company was out of business. It had longitudinal grooves in the paper. The increase in oil temperature occurred when I tried to use a roll of toilet paper per Revmaster recommendation. They wouldn't admit to a problem with it but I noticed they are now installing disposable filters on their new engines. Some of the other brands like Fram seem to have more restriction to flow than the AC and run the oil temperature higher. Of coarse your oil cooler set-up would effect oil temperature also. I went from Castrol10/30 semisynthetic oil to Castrol 10/40 semisynthetic oil which brought my oil pressure up to a better level and did not noticeably change the oil temperature. I would work on your systems to bring those oil temps down to 200 degrees F or below for all flight operating conditions based on my experiences. Also I limit my climb rate to 500 ft/minute on a hot day to keep the oil temperature below 200 degrees F. I have minimized my cooling system airflow to increase cruise speed however. You can see my set-up at http://www.bouyea.net My oil temperature goes up to 220 degrees F in prolonged taxiing on a hot day which brings the oil pressure down to 20 psi sometimes on the ground (the reason I went to the heavier oil). Joe Horvath at Revmaster told me you need at least 10 psi oil pressure for every 1000 rpm so I'm not hurting the engine for taxi at the lower pressures. Good luck with it. -----Original Message----- From: Serge VIDAL To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: KR> VW 2 liter oil temperature And what about oil temperature? My engine runs between 90 and 100 degrees Celsius (that is 194 to 212 degrees Farenheit). How does that sound? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:07:15 +0000 To: "David R. Christensen" From: Stuart Deal CC: krnet mailing lists Subject: Re: Fw: KR> VW 2 liter oil temperature Message-ID: <3C346593.3879DB2C@sonic.net> David, I am curious why oil pressure would be any more than an "as configured" rule of thumb, indicating pump effectiveness. Does lower pressure mean higher flow? Why would this need corrective action? Does this mean use the thickest oil that will flow at normal pressure? Thanks for your recommendations, Stuart > set-up would effect oil temperature also. I went from Castrol10/30 > semisynthetic oil to Castrol 10/40 semisynthetic oil which brought my oil > pressure up to a better level and did not noticeably change the oil > day which brings the oil pressure down to 20 psi sometimes on the ground > (the reason I went to the heavier oil). Joe Horvath at Revmaster told me > you need at least 10 psi oil pressure for every 1000 rpm so I'm not hurting > the engine for taxi at the lower pressures. Good luck with it. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:19:46 +0100 To: "kr mailinglist.org." From: "Preben Rafn-Larsen" Subject: KR 1 for sale Message-ID: <001601c1948b$9c4950a0$9ec3f9c3@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C19493.FC8D3320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am selling my KR 1 build 1988-1996, 3 gear,s ,mount with VW engine = 1700 3 blades prop. price 7.500,- Euro, location Copenhagen = Denmark . mail foto available. regards Preben Rafn-Larsen ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C19493.FC8D3320-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:15:44 -0500 To: "KR Mailing Lists" From: "John & Elaine Roffey" Subject: Kr in the press Message-ID: <005301c194ce$1d3d1240$848828d8@default> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C194A4.2FF33560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are an EAA member, you may already have your January Sport = Aviation magazine. Please take note of page 84 in the "what our members = are building" section and you will see one of the nicest KR2S' to make = it into the skys as of this date. Congratulations to you Chris Gardner, we are all proud to see you and = your plane in the pages of our monthy publication. Great job Chris. This will be the one to see if Chris brings it to this years Gathering = in Red Oak. John Roffey hammering away at the gear jeroffey@tir.com ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C194A4.2FF33560-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************