From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 13 May 2002 15:38:20 -0000 Issue 427 Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:38 AM krnet Digest 13 May 2002 15:38:20 -0000 Issue 427 Topics (messages 10082 through 10111): Primers and stuff 10082 by: Daniel Heath Re: fiberglass-resin-foam 10083 by: Jerry . charter.net Corvair 10084 by: clappw.bellsouth.net Good Sealant for Wood 10085 by: Larry A. Capps Re: KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 10086 by: Linda Warner 10087 by: Frank Ross 10090 by: Daniel Heath 10094 by: Jerry . charter.net Re: your head up display 10088 by: Ron Eason New here 10089 by: R Petersen mother's day 10091 by: RICK WILSON test 10092 by: RICK WILSON Flox 10093 by: RICK WILSON 10096 by: Jerry . charter.net KR NEWSLETTER (25 years worth) 10095 by: Larry A. Capps 10097 by: Jerry . charter.net 10099 by: Frank Ross as 5046 10098 by: Thomas C Adams 10107 by: Mark Langford Monte and Newsletter 10100 by: Frank Ross 10103 by: Daniel Heath 10105 by: Dana Overall 10106 by: Steven Eberhart 10108 by: Mark Langford KR Quarterly 10101 by: Frank Ross Terry Ryan's control plans 10102 by: John and Janet Martindale 10111 by: Thomas C Adams Filler - AeroPoxy Lite 10104 by: Daniel Heath RE:rod end bearings 10109 by: mike 10110 by: Mark Langford Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 20:29:37 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Primers and stuff Message-ID: A few weeks ago, we were discussing fillers and primers. I asked AS and did not get a satisfactory answer from their support people, so I wrote Jim and he got some information and phone numbers for me. I have paraphrased Jims reply to me below. Note the information on the AeroPoxy. We checked with Poly-Fiber as they are experts on finishing and John Goldenblam there asked that you call him to discuss what you will need. On the AeroPoxy, the manufacturer PTM&W does not recommend using any thinning agent as it can alter the properties of the filler. Mark Prince at PTM&W asked that you call him for technical assistance on the filler. Let us know when we can be of further assistance. I am going to call the numbers and will let you know what they say. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 23:45:33 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Jerry @ charter.net" Subject: Re: KR> fiberglass-resin-foam Message-ID: <004601c1f980$9e23f010$2b1af118@oldmyrddin> All, We got the windshield in and pics should be forthcomming shortly..... Hey Mark, Thanx a bunch for the tip on heating the aileron (elevator...). I bought the Diehl wing skins years ago and built the outer wings and cut out the ailerons. One of them was OK but the trailing edge on the other was kinda wavey. So I built another aileron from scratch. As I said, that was years ago. Now that Dan and I have reactivated the project; we noticed that my creation had picked up a little warp..... even though it had been stored flat.... We, especially Dan (since he would be doing most of it) were not looking forward to building another. I don't know if there are any lessons to be learned here, but thanks again for the heating tip..... And we have a couple of other heating tools to try. One is a heat gun (souped up hair dryer) and the other is three halagon shop lights. Those shop lights are great for setting and curing glass on cool days...... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: KR> fiberglass-resin-foam > I wrote: > > > Dan, have you thought about putting a small heater under the aileron, > > warming up the top with a hair dryer or heat gun, and then "de-warping" > the > > elevator? > > Maybe you should start with dewarping the AILERON instead. I'm goin' back > to bed... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Langford" > To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 7:30 AM > Subject: Re: KR> fiberglass-resin-foam > > > > Dan Heath wrote: > > > > > We have a problem with one of the ailerons in that it looks very > "warped". > > > We are going to re-build it and I thought we would try carbon fiber for > > that > > > in hopes that it might help keep it straight. It was built straight to > > > begin with, but did not stay that way. > > > > Dan, have you thought about putting a small heater under the aileron, > > warming up the top with a hair dryer or heat gun, and then "de-warping" > the > > elevator? Afterwards you could wrap it in carbon fiber to make sure it > > stayed that way. > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:18:58 -0400 To: From: Subject: Corvair Message-ID: <000c01c1f9e1$7c690620$d93dd6d1@h1x1g0> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1F9BF.F4C05640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for a good corvair core for building for KR2S - 164 cid - 110 = HP Also hunting down good used VFR instruments and comm and = transponder - trying to save a few bucks BILL ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1F9BF.F4C05640-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 01:56:19 -0500 To: "KR Builders \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Good Sealant for Wood Message-ID: <000c01c1f982$1ed69a90$0600a8c0@schpankme> Many builders have asked "what's a good sealant to use on wood"? Your already using one of the absolute best; EPOXY - diluted with Lacquer Thinner, or MEK (methyl ethyl ketone). Caution: Wear eye and skin protection when using Epoxy, solvents, or thinners. Regards, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT) To: lacapps@attbi.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) Subject: Re: KR> KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 Message-ID: <24718-3CDE7371-20@storefull-2175.public.lawson.webtv.net> I don't know of these newsletters ever being published by anyone for public use. The ones printed later by Earl Teporten and the current publisher are certainly not available for the public's use. They are more interested in protecting their copy rights than serving the KR builders. I believe most back issues were disposed of by the current publisher. I have all of the issues up until a year or so ago if anyone wants a certain article looked up, I would be happy to do it. Just e-mail me direct. John Sickafoose Naples, Fl. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 08:37:22 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 Message-ID: <20020512153722.53644.qmail@web21509.mail.yahoo.com> Back issues and copies of articles from the KR Newsletter are available from: KR Newsletter, published monthly at 624 West University Drive, PMB 199 Denton, TX 76201 Monte Miller, Editor and Publisher, Eve and Weekend Tel: 940-566-5871 e-mail: montmil@flash.net Monte charges a small fee for this service. I'll bet he wishes he were rich enough to do it for free. Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX The hell with the foxhole, take your best shot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 13:48:49 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 Message-ID: Frank, Is Monte still building/flying KR? Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ross [mailto:alamokr2@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:37 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 Back issues and copies of articles from the KR Newsletter are available from: KR Newsletter, published monthly at 624 West University Drive, PMB 199 Denton, TX 76201 Monte Miller, Editor and Publisher, Eve and Weekend Tel: 940-566-5871 e-mail: montmil@flash.net Monte charges a small fee for this service. I'll bet he wishes he were rich enough to do it for free. Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX The hell with the foxhole, take your best shot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:56:56 -0700 To: "Daniel Heath" , "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Jerry @ charter.net" Subject: Re: KR> KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 Message-ID: <001e01c1fa32$3b705190$2b1af118@oldmyrddin> Last I heard about Monte was that he had sold his KR and was building a Pietenpol Aircamper..... Anybody else with later news.....??? Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Heath" To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 1:48 PM Subject: RE: KR> KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru 12/84 > Frank, > > Is Monte still building/flying KR? > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Ross [mailto:alamokr2@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:37 AM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> KR NEWSLETTER - published by John Forrester - 12/82 thru > 12/84 > > > Back issues and copies of articles from the KR > Newsletter are available from: > KR Newsletter, published monthly at > 624 West University Drive, PMB 199 > Denton, TX 76201 > Monte Miller, Editor and Publisher, > Eve and Weekend Tel: 940-566-5871 > e-mail: montmil@flash.net > > Monte charges a small fee for this service. > I'll bet he wishes he were rich enough to do it for > free. > > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX > The hell with the foxhole, take your best shot > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:13:17 -0500 To: From: "Ron Eason" Cc: "krnet" Subject: Re: your head up display Message-ID: <006201c1f9d8$4f8edf20$95621e41@Administration> Bryan, Thanks for you response. I can not add any more info to this unit because it has a fixed digital display. How ever I may be able to add a angle of attack by integrating another venders LED array to the unit. I have not investigated this however, it would add another $700.00 plus to the cost since the unit cost $700.00, however. My present HUD unit has a engine monitoring capabilities as you may have noticed that is in the form of a warning Icon which appears in the HUD when the alarm switch is activated by the temperature, pressure or low voltage and etc. just like your automobile instrument panel shows. The speed displayed by my present unit is far more accurate than any mechanical certified unit but it is not certified because of cost and therefore is offered only is a reference instrument to supplement your certified unit. The HUD is very useful for landings and takeoffs. My HUD unit uses the same technology as the Rocky Mountain Unit [microelectronics]. I am working on a separate [ off the shelf] [ RPM ] HUD display for my plane and if it works I may offer it. It also requires some new microelectronics for integrating to a aircraft engine. You will have to plan for a HUD installation by fabricating a shelf type instrument panel similar to a car to use the HUD[s]. I am not going to design a HUD from scratch because of the time it would take. My present off the shelf HUD took two years of myself and employee's spare time. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Kerman" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: your head up display > Hi: > > I'm rather impressed with your adaptation of existing automotive technology > to make the head up display for homebuilt aircraft. > > I was wondering what it would take to add a few more digits for altitude > (like air speed), and perhaps an alarm logo for excessive angle-of-attack > and maybe a bar for wings level. I would think that extra set would provide > a full and exceptionally useful set (in addition to the left/right of VOR as > you suggest) for increasing the safety of landings. > > Do you forsee the projection on demand of say a full heading, orientation > etc or engine monitor or map info from some LCD device? My feeling is that > is secondary to getting more basic info re landing on the head up display > > Bryan Kerman > > Zenith 701 > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: R Petersen Subject: New here Message-ID: <20020512172348.81614.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, I am new at this and want to get into building a KR plane and would like to find builders around the Sacramento, CA. area. Please e-mail me if you are in the area or nearby towns. Thank you, Ron Petersen EMail: RPetersen14@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:45:24 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: RICK WILSON Subject: mother's day Message-ID: <20020512234524.24333.qmail@web21203.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Sure is quiet out there. Everyone must be spending the day thinking of mother instead of airplanes. Rick. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:52:41 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: test Message-ID: <20020512235241.10511.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, this is a test. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 17:05:51 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: Flox Message-ID: <20020513000551.11459.qmail@web21210.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's ok to cover the bare foam on such places as the aileron ends, elevator ends, etc., with flox alone, or does it have to be covered with a layer of glass also? Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:00:13 -0700 To: "Rick Wilson" , From: "Jerry @ charter.net" Subject: Re: KR> Flox Message-ID: <002c01c1fa32$b1e37ff0$2b1af118@oldmyrddin> Rick, Might I suggest that you use flox for fillets in the corners, all the way around; and then glass. I think that is the standard way.....and the easiest. Just glass the long sides of the piece, gouge out a little foam around the edges, put in the flox and slurry and then glass..... Then you have strong inside filleted corners.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: KR> Flox > Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's ok to cover the bare > foam on such places as the aileron ends, elevator > ends, etc., with flox alone, or does it have to be > covered with a layer of glass also? Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:58:37 -0500 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: KR NEWSLETTER (25 years worth) Message-ID: <002901c1fa19$511f0b80$0600a8c0@schpankme> Well, I just talked to Monte, he has sold or destroyed all back issues (25 years worth as he put it) of the KR Newsletters. Monte did say, he has one complete set which is property of the KR Newsletter ("mine" says Monte). What a very sad state of affairs! Does anyone on the KRNet have a complete set of KR newsletters they will sale, or rent out (email off line)? Beam me up Scotty, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- Back issues and copies of articles from the KR Newsletter are available from: KR Newsletter, Monte Miller, Editor and Publisher, ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:51:02 -0400 To: , From: "Jerry Mahurin" Subject: Re: KR> KR NEWSLETTER (25 years worth) Message-ID: Larry, I have hard copies (printed) from #1 thru late '94 or early '95... I would have to dig them out to be sure; but I will if you think they might be of help to you..... Let me know.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org On Sun, 12 May 2002 19:58:37 -0500 "Larry A. Capps" wrote: >Well, I just talked to Monte, he has sold or destroyed >all back issues (25 >years worth as he put it) of the KR Newsletters. Monte >did say, he has one >complete set which is property of the KR Newsletter >("mine" says Monte). >What a very sad state of affairs! > >Does anyone on the KRNet have a complete set of KR >newsletters they will >sale, or rent out (email off line)? > >Beam me up Scotty, > >Larry A. Capps >Naperville, IL > > >-----Original Message----- >Back issues and copies of articles from the KR >Newsletter are available from: >KR Newsletter, >Monte Miller, Editor and Publisher, > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT >"reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: >krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: >krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at >http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:58:08 -0700 (PDT) To: lacapps@attbi.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> KR NEWSLETTER (25 years worth) Message-ID: <20020513045808.98742.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> Larry, Thanks for the up-date. That is sad news. I would at least like to see them put on CD and offered for sale. Frank in San Antonio --- "Larry A. Capps" wrote: > Well, I just talked to Monte, he has sold or > destroyed all back issues (25 > years worth as he put it) of the KR Newsletters. > Monte did say, he has one > complete set which is property of the KR Newsletter > ("mine" says Monte). > What a very sad state of affairs! > > Does anyone on the KRNet have a complete set of KR > newsletters they will > sale, or rent out (email off line)? > > Beam me up Scotty, > > Larry A. Capps > Naperville, IL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:51:39 -0500 To: From: "Thomas C Adams" Subject: as 5046 Message-ID: <002201c1fa31$7e5ab5a0$4ecdacd1@tomadams> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1FA07.93C104A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is anyone flying this airfoil yet? ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1FA07.93C104A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:34:02 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> as 5046 Message-ID: <080501c1fa7a$77978f60$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Thomas C. Adams wrote: >is anyone flying this airfoil yet? Yes. See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/airfoil.html . Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:20:14 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Monte and Newsletter Message-ID: <20020513052014.66451.qmail@web21502.mail.yahoo.com> --- Daniel Heath wrote: > Frank, > Is Monte still building/flying KR? > Daniel R. Heath Dan, I know that Monte also publishes the "Rag Wing Newsletter" for people building Roger Mann's designs. He is building one of them. They are very small, simple, versions of Piets, Pitts, etc. I don't know if he gave up on the KR or not, but he still does the KR Newsletter. My subscription just ran out. I'm very disappointed to hear Larry's news that Monte no longer has back issues of the Newsletter. My latest issue still advertises that back issues are available. I would think it would be worth his time and effort to put them on a CD and offer them for sale. But then, no one ever accused me of being a marketing genius. IMHO, I don't think you'll find much in those newsletters that you can't find on the web. Really enjoying your website, too. Frank __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 05:58:29 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Monte and Newsletter Message-ID: I have most of the really old news letters and what I don't have, Jerry probably does. You are right, the newsletters don't have anything that the Net doesn't. Between the site links and the people on the net, you have way more than you ever got out of the newsletters. It used to be all there was and I was just curious about what ever happened to Monte and his KR. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ross [mailto:alamokr2@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 10:20 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Monte and Newsletter --- Daniel Heath wrote: > Frank, > Is Monte still building/flying KR? > Daniel R. Heath Dan, I know that Monte also publishes the "Rag Wing Newsletter" for people building Roger Mann's designs. He is building one of them. They are very small, simple, versions of Piets, Pitts, etc. I don't know if he gave up on the KR or not, but he still does the KR Newsletter. My subscription just ran out. I'm very disappointed to hear Larry's news that Monte no longer has back issues of the Newsletter. My latest issue still advertises that back issues are available. I would think it would be worth his time and effort to put them on a CD and offer them for sale. But then, no one ever accused me of being a marketing genius. IMHO, I don't think you'll find much in those newsletters that you can't find on the web. Really enjoying your website, too. Frank __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:14:20 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: KR> Monte and Newsletter Message-ID: First of all Monte sold his KR several, several years ago. The only interest he has/had in KR is monatary alone. Several years ago I sent out a boocoo of back issues and I think Oscar started scanning them. We got permission from prior publishers to do this but Monte wouldn't extend the same. It seems to me (this was several years ago) that the project was more than a little time consuming. I ended up sending mine out to probably 10 or so people who simply copied them. Ping..............anyone out there remember for sure what came of this project. PS..........does anyone know where that Panel Planner CD I sent out 5 years ago is now (we wouldn't do anything wrong but I think some people sent it to others to use......or so I heard:-). Dana Overall Richmond, KY 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host http://rvflying.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:11:49 -0500 (CDT) To: Dana Overall From: Steven Eberhart cc: Subject: RE: KR> Monte and Newsletter Message-ID: On Mon, 13 May 2002, Dana Overall wrote: > First of all Monte sold his KR several, several years ago. The only > interest he has/had in KR is monatary alone. Several years ago I sent out a > boocoo of back issues and I think Oscar started scanning them. We got > permission from prior publishers to do this but Monte wouldn't extend the > same. It seems to me (this was several years ago) that the project was more > than a little time consuming. I ended up sending mine out to probably 10 or > so people who simply copied them. > > Ping..............anyone out there remember for sure what came of this > project. I am not sure of the source of the issues but Mark Lougheed gave me a CD he burned of the old newsletters. All newsletters are in pdf format so they can be searched with Adobe Acrobat. THe newsletters cover 1975 - 1982. THis was probably the result of Oscar's scanning. Steve Eberhart RV-7A - just a whole bunch of aluminum, in various states of attachment, filling up my half of the garage. Some of it looks like it might belong on the back end of an airplane. The rest looks like it might, some day, help hold it up in the air.... but what do I know. N14SE reserved ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:41:11 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Monte and Newsletter Message-ID: <080601c1fa7b$77407940$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Steve Eberhart wrote: > I am not sure of the source of the issues but Mark Lougheed gave me a CD > he burned of the old newsletters. All newsletters are in pdf format so > they can be searched with Adobe Acrobat. THe newsletters cover 1975 - > 1982. THis was probably the result of Oscar's scanning. Mark Lougheed himself scanned those Newsletters, put them on CD, and gave about 25 copies away at the 1999 Gathering, I believe it was. He was given official permission by Ernie Koppe, first editor of the KR Newsletter, who felt it important that contributions BY KR builders should be shared with other KR builders, in the interest of safety and improving the KR series. As mentioned before, those are on John Bouyea's KRnet archive site at http://www.bouyea.net/ . I've tried to lay low during this discussion, but I can't figure why Monte would quit selling reprints of the Newsletter, and still refuse permission for us to reproduce them. He also owns the rights to Teporten's Newsletters, which came with the deal. I guess I'll ask him. Monte's contributions to the Teporten era newsletters was nothing short of fabulous. I can't imagine why he wouldn't share them, unless he's planning on publishing an addendum to the KR manual or something. That was his reason at one time, but it's been over five years and I haven't seen any such animal yet. Maybe the winds have shifted somewhat. As far as I'm conerned, there are plenty of those on the web already! There really IS a lot of good stuff in those newsletters, in my humble opinion. Where do you think I got some of my ideas from? Imagine just pointing the newbies at a pile of several hundred KR Newsletters and turning them loose. The info regarding HAPI, Revmaster, retractable gear etc, is priceless if you have one of those old machines... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:23:53 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: KR Quarterly Message-ID: <20020513052353.16459.qmail@web21503.mail.yahoo.com> No Frank > Any one remember the KR Quarterly ? > Virg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:50:58 +1000 To: "KRnet" From: "John and Janet Martindale" Subject: Terry Ryan's control plans Message-ID: <001b01c1fa52$ec80a280$92de12d2@m1g0x7> ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1FAA6.BD27C5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks Terry is happy to release his plans to anyone that cares to drop him a = line. His address is: PO BOX 620 TAREE NSW 2430 AUSTRALIA Regards John and Janet Martindale 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 66584767 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1FAA6.BD27C5A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:42:49 -0500 To: From: "Thomas C Adams" Subject: Re: KR> Terry Ryan's control plans Message-ID: <002201c1fa94$d7d5c760$41cdacd1@tomadams> electronic address available? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John and Janet Martindale" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:50 AM Subject: KR> Terry Ryan's control plans Hi folks Terry is happy to release his plans to anyone that cares to drop him a line. His address is: PO BOX 620 TAREE NSW 2430 AUSTRALIA Regards John and Janet Martindale 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 66584767 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:17:13 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: Filler - AeroPoxy Lite Message-ID: Thanks for all the information. I did mix the resin and hardener parts, a lot, and found that the hardener did have all the wet stuff at the bottom. It worked much better this time. This stuff is really good if you are not in a hurry. It sets up in a few hours and gives about 15 + minutes of working time depending on the temperature. Sanding is as good as sanding can be. I was thinking about starting an exercise program to loose weight, but I think sanding is enough. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242 at: WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:23:51 -0400 To: From: "mike" Subject: RE:rod end bearings Message-ID: <001e01c1fa81$6c46f7c0$6400a8c0@wolftreeinc.com> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1FA5F.E4E90C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am to the point I need to start gathering my tailfeather hinges = and I was wondering if there was any specification on the rod end = bearings. I have several sources here at work as well as the ones we all = use for our building material ( AS&SP, WICKS & ECT), I was just = wondering about the size n so forth.=20 = Thanks, = Mike ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1FA5F.E4E90C80-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:44:39 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> RE:rod end bearings Message-ID: <000a01c1fa84$55ae5500$5f0ca58c@mlangford> Mike wrote: >>Hi, I am to the point I need to start gathering my tailfeather hinges and I was wondering if there was any specification on the rod end bearings. I have several sources here at work as well as the ones we all use for our building material ( AS&SP, WICKS & ECT), I was just wondering about the size n so forth. << Have you seen the web page at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/dean_hinge/ ? It gives a complete part number list, including the rod end bearings, available from Wicks and the usual suspects... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************