From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 17 Jun 2002 16:27:36 -0000 Issue 454 Date: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:28 AM krnet Digest 17 Jun 2002 16:27:36 -0000 Issue 454 Topics (messages 10850 through 10879): wingtip and strobes 10850 by: clappw.bellsouth.net 10852 by: David Mullins 10853 by: Mark Jones 10854 by: Jeff York 10865 by: Tim Brown 10870 by: Daniel Heath Re: antenna ? 10851 by: Mark Jones 10855 by: David Mullins 10860 by: Mark Jones 10866 by: Tim Brown Annual inspection check list 10856 by: Jeff York 10861 by: Mark Jones kr with I F R 10857 by: claude denoncourt 10862 by: Darren Pond 10868 by: Robert X. Cringely 10869 by: Daniel Heath Re: antenna construction 10858 by: Mark Langford 10859 by: Rick Wilson Re: Carburetor vs. injector 10863 by: Jerry . charter.net Adrian's files 10864 by: Kerry Miller Re: napalm cannister 10867 by: bstarrs Re: kr with I F R-Rant:-) 10871 by: Dana Overall coulings 10872 by: Audrey and Harold Woods 2500cc VW based 10873 by: asavant.notes.state.ne.us 10876 by: asavant.notes.state.ne.us Re: graphite and Kevlar cowling 10874 by: asavant.notes.state.ne.us coax impedance 10875 by: Thomas C Adams Injectors / Carb 10877 by: Conley, Paul W. To lighten or not to lighten?? 10878 by: Conley, Paul W. 10879 by: RONALD.FREIBERGER Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:01:49 -0400 To: From: Subject: wingtip and strobes Message-ID: <006501c21607$870180c0$16851442@h1x1g0> ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C215E5.FF72C180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any information out there about the curved wingtip - such as those on = the Diehl skins I believe- affect performance. I will be debating = wingtip designs soon and need info. Also, I am looking for a BUDGET = strobe/nav light kit. Is it better to run nav lights all around and = then a belly strobe or run wingtip strobes? And would I have to purchase = an extension cable to run to strobes. Radio interference? I would like = this thing night capable. I will probably use those neat halogen or = xenon driving lights for my landing light. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C215E5.FF72C180-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:24:59 -0400 To: krnet From: David Mullins Subject: Re: KR> wingtip and strobes Message-ID: <3D0D487B.71768EB2@attbi.com> Bill, The best thing to get would be the Aeroflash units. They have the NAV/POS/Strobes in 1 housing for each wingtip and conform to FAA regs. The Power supply is in each wingtip. Just run your power/ground wires to it. I paid $435 for my set of 12v double flash units. I will be adding a small white strobe to the rudder flashing to the rear. $20 at PepBoys. Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire clappw@bellsouth.net wrote: > Any information out there about the curved wingtip - such as those on the Diehl skins I believe- affect performance. I will be debating wingtip designs soon and need info. Also, I am looking for a BUDGET strobe/nav light kit. Is it better to run nav lights all around and then a belly strobe or run wingtip strobes? And would I have to purchase an extension cable to run to strobes. Radio interference? I would like this thing night capable. I will probably use those neat halogen or xenon driving lights for my landing light. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:29:26 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> wingtip and strobes Message-ID: <00b101c215a6$ccfecbc0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> Try Kuntzelman Strobes...here is the web site http://www.kestrobes.com/Homex.html their systems are very fair priced. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:01 AM > Subject: KR> wingtip and strobes > > > Any information out there about the curved wingtip - such as those on the > Diehl skins I believe- affect performance. I will be debating wingtip > designs soon and need info. Also, I am looking for a BUDGET strobe/nav > light kit. Is it better to run nav lights all around and then a belly > strobe or run wingtip strobes? And would I have to purchase an extension > cable to run to strobes. Radio interference? I would like this thing night > capable. I will probably use those neat halogen or xenon driving lights for > my landing light. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:26:39 -0400 To: clappw@bellsouth.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jeff York" Subject: Re: KR> wingtip and strobes Message-ID: So far the best deal I have found on this is a set of AeroFlash Nav/Strobe light kits. The best price I have found is from Great Atlantic Aeroplane Company Inc. They list for 346.95 in their catalog. The part number is 156-0039DF. Thats half the price of a Whelen kit. The AeroFlash kit is not FAA-PMA approved but neither is a lot of the stuff on our experimentals. The number for Atlantic Aeroplane is 888-453-2376. If anyone has found a better deal let me know. I haven't purchased the Aeroflash kit yet myself. Jeff York >From: >To: >Subject: KR> wingtip and strobes >Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:01:49 -0400 > >Any information out there about the curved wingtip - such as those on the >Diehl skins I believe- affect performance. I will be debating wingtip >designs soon and need info. Also, I am looking for a BUDGET strobe/nav >light kit. Is it better to run nav lights all around and then a belly >strobe or run wingtip strobes? And would I have to purchase an extension >cable to run to strobes. Radio interference? I would like this thing >night capable. I will probably use those neat halogen or xenon driving >lights for my landing light. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:53:06 -0700 (PDT) To: clappw@bellsouth.net, Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> wingtip and strobes Message-ID: <20020617035306.65352.qmail@web9507.mail.yahoo.com> Just my two cents....I am going with Aeroflash wing tip strobe and running light combo. Yes, I bought the extension cable for them. I, too, am going with the driving light landing lights. I plan to put each on a separate switch for three reasons...I can run one when in crowded areas such as So. Calif. for better visibility (of me), save on power drain with only one, and use only one at a time to land if I want, or both if needed. Tim --- clappw@bellsouth.net wrote: > Any information out there about the curved > wingtip - such as those on the Diehl skins I > believe- affect performance. I will be > debating wingtip designs soon and need info. > Also, I am looking for a BUDGET strobe/nav > light kit. Is it better to run nav lights all > around and then a belly strobe or run wingtip > strobes? And would I have to purchase an > extension cable to run to strobes. Radio > interference? I would like this thing night > capable. I will probably use those neat > halogen or xenon driving lights for my landing > light. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:28:31 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> wingtip and strobes Message-ID: We have a set of Whelens that we might be talked out of. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Jeff York [mailto:jeffyork40@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:27 PM To: clappw@bellsouth.net; krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> wingtip and strobes So far the best deal I have found on this is a set of AeroFlash Nav/Strobe light kits. The best price I have found is from Great Atlantic Aeroplane Company Inc. They list for 346.95 in their catalog. The part number is 156-0039DF. Thats half the price of a Whelen kit. The AeroFlash kit is not FAA-PMA approved but neither is a lot of the stuff on our experimentals. The number for Atlantic Aeroplane is 888-453-2376. If anyone has found a better deal let me know. I haven't purchased the Aeroflash kit yet myself. Jeff York >From: >To: >Subject: KR> wingtip and strobes >Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:01:49 -0400 > >Any information out there about the curved wingtip - such as those on the >Diehl skins I believe- affect performance. I will be debating wingtip >designs soon and need info. Also, I am looking for a BUDGET strobe/nav >light kit. Is it better to run nav lights all around and then a belly >strobe or run wingtip strobes? And would I have to purchase an extension >cable to run to strobes. Radio interference? I would like this thing >night capable. I will probably use those neat halogen or xenon driving >lights for my landing light. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:22:54 -0500 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> antenna ? Message-ID: <009101c215a5$e5c3d980$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> I have done this installation and it is a very simple one. The only difference is I did not use the arrow shaft but used a piece of 1/8 x 3/4 spruce to mount my lower antenna leg on. I first applied the copper tape to the piece of wood and then glassed over it leaving about 1" exposed at the top to attach the coax to. The upper leg was taped to the side of the vertical stabilizer and then glassed over. Again leaving 1" exposed at the bottom of the coax connection. The coax I used is RG59U. You simply solder the coax to the two antenna legs. After soldering, I then encased the complete soldered connections in flox to prevent any breaking loose from vibration or whatever. A noise reduction filter (toroid) was attached about two inches away from the soldered connections. The toroid I used was bought at Radio Shack and simply snaps over the coax. The toroid was about 4 or 5 bucks. The coax was then run up the fuselage making sure to keep it away from any electrical wires as much as possible. Just today as I was working on my plane, while listening to the radio, I received transmissions from a jump plane over an airport about 40 or so miles away. I also talked to another plane over East Troy airport which is 28 miles from my house. And remember this was using a King KX-99 handheld with the plane sitting in my driveway. Not too shabby!!!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: KR> antenna ? I would like to add a question the the antenna dilema. I purchased 4 feet of copper foil and an arrow shaft for my antenna construction. Are there any detailed instructions as far as how to go about constructing and installing this thing and how to attach to coax. Also, is cable coax the same as aircraft coax? I'll be ready to glass my horizontal this week and then comes the vertical so I would like to have everything ready by then. BILL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:33:51 -0400 To: Mark Jones From: David Mullins CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> antenna ? Message-ID: <3D0D4A8F.9BD8424B@attbi.com> Mark, Isn't RG59U 75 ohm cable? I thought you needed RG8 or RG58 because the resistance is 50 ohms per foot. The RG8 has a solid core and the RG58 a stranded core. RG400 is the best but it is very expensive. Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire Mark Jones wrote: > I have done this installation and it is a very simple one. The only > difference is I did not use the arrow shaft but used a piece of 1/8 x 3/4 > spruce to mount my lower antenna leg on. I first applied the copper tape to > the piece of wood and then glassed over it leaving about 1" exposed at the > top to attach the coax to. The upper leg was taped to the side of the > vertical stabilizer and then glassed over. Again leaving 1" exposed at the > bottom of the coax connection. The coax I used is RG59U. You simply solder > the coax to the two antenna legs. After soldering, I then encased the > complete soldered connections in flox to prevent any breaking loose from > vibration or whatever. A noise reduction filter (toroid) was attached about > two inches away from the soldered connections. The toroid I used was bought > at Radio Shack and simply snaps over the coax. The toroid was about 4 or 5 > bucks. The coax was then run up the fuselage making sure to keep it away > from any electrical wires as much as possible. Just today as I was working > on my plane, while listening to the radio, I received transmissions from a > jump plane over an airport about 40 or so miles away. I also talked to > another plane over East Troy airport which is 28 miles from my house. And > remember this was using a King KX-99 handheld with the plane sitting in my > driveway. Not too shabby!!!!! > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:54 AM > Subject: KR> antenna ? > > I would like to add a question the the antenna dilema. I purchased 4 feet > of copper foil and an arrow shaft for my antenna construction. Are there > any detailed instructions as far as how to go about constructing and > installing this thing and how to attach to coax. Also, is cable coax the > same as aircraft coax? I'll be ready to glass my horizontal this week and > then comes the vertical so I would like to have everything ready by then. > BILL > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:55:56 -0500 To: "David Mullins" From: "Mark Jones" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> antenna ? Message-ID: <00d501c215aa$8090ebc0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> Yep, I identified my coax incorrectly on my post. Just went out to the plane to confirm and it is RG58...works for me!!! Thanks Dave Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Mullins" To: "Mark Jones" Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: KR> antenna ? > Mark, > > Isn't RG59U 75 ohm cable? I thought you needed RG8 or RG58 > because the resistance is 50 ohms per foot. The RG8 has a solid > core and the RG58 a stranded core. RG400 is the best but it is > very expensive. > > Dave Mullins > Nashua, New Hampshire > > Mark Jones wrote: > > > I have done this installation and it is a very simple one. The only > > difference is I did not use the arrow shaft but used a piece of 1/8 x 3/4 > > spruce to mount my lower antenna leg on. I first applied the copper tape to > > the piece of wood and then glassed over it leaving about 1" exposed at the > > top to attach the coax to. The upper leg was taped to the side of the > > vertical stabilizer and then glassed over. Again leaving 1" exposed at the > > bottom of the coax connection. The coax I used is RG59U. You simply solder > > the coax to the two antenna legs. After soldering, I then encased the > > complete soldered connections in flox to prevent any breaking loose from > > vibration or whatever. A noise reduction filter (toroid) was attached about > > two inches away from the soldered connections. The toroid I used was bought > > at Radio Shack and simply snaps over the coax. The toroid was about 4 or 5 > > bucks. The coax was then run up the fuselage making sure to keep it away > > from any electrical wires as much as possible. Just today as I was working > > on my plane, while listening to the radio, I received transmissions from a > > jump plane over an airport about 40 or so miles away. I also talked to > > another plane over East Troy airport which is 28 miles from my house. And > > remember this was using a King KX-99 handheld with the plane sitting in my > > driveway. Not too shabby!!!!! > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:54 AM > > Subject: KR> antenna ? > > > > I would like to add a question the the antenna dilema. I purchased 4 feet > > of copper foil and an arrow shaft for my antenna construction. Are there > > any detailed instructions as far as how to go about constructing and > > installing this thing and how to attach to coax. Also, is cable coax the > > same as aircraft coax? I'll be ready to glass my horizontal this week and > > then comes the vertical so I would like to have everything ready by then. > > BILL > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 20:55:26 -0700 (PDT) To: clappw@bellsouth.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> antenna ? Message-ID: <20020617035526.65066.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> See Mark langford's site for the best of how to put in an antenna. I did it this way which you can see at my site, but it's Mark's site that "instructed" me. Tim --- clappw@bellsouth.net wrote: > I would like to add a question the the antenna > dilema. I purchased 4 feet of copper foil and > an arrow shaft for my antenna construction. > Are there any detailed instructions as far as > how to go about constructing and installing > this thing and how to attach to coax. Also, is > cable coax the same as aircraft coax? I'll be > ready to glass my horizontal this week and then > comes the vertical so I would like to have > everything ready by then. BILL > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:32:21 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Jeff York" Subject: Annual inspection check list Message-ID: Anybody out there got a great check list for your KR-2 annual inspection. I have a Great Planes engine. I want to make sure I have all the bases covered. I am going to check the EAA website as well. I heard they had a check list for experimental's but I want something more KR specific. Jeff York N839BG _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:57:41 -0500 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Annual inspection check list Message-ID: <00e201c215aa$bf9f31a0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> This should help.... http://www.moneypit.net/~pratt/ambuilt/checklist.htm Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff York" To: Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: KR> Annual inspection check list > > Anybody out there got a great check list for your KR-2 annual inspection. > > I have a Great Planes engine. > > I want to make sure I have all the bases covered. I am going to check the > EAA website as well. I heard they had a check list for experimental's but I > want something more KR specific. > > Jeff York > N839BG > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 02:33:58 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "claude denoncourt" Subject: kr with I F R Message-ID: hi guys can a kr be equip I F R if so how do u handle the static charge? claude montreal _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 23:06:41 -0700 To: "krnet" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: Re: KR> kr with I F R Message-ID: <000401c215c5$26f61fc0$79469d18@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Be nice guys. My KR will be full IFR and no I don't have a death wish. The biggest point others have made in the past is the flight characteristics are not friendly to this kind of flying. So if you will be follow the plans you might want to keep it to a VFR only IFR trainer. Good value in this too I believe. Check the history on this as there has been lots of good info over the last 1.5 years that I have been here. Darren Pond working on my dream machine ----- Original Message ----- From: claude denoncourt To: Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: KR> kr with I F R > > hi guys > > can a kr be equip I F R if so how do u handle the static charge? > > claude > montreal > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 23:27:59 -0400 To: "claude denoncourt" ,krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> kr with I F R Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020616232759.00807570@mail.cringely.com> The issue isn't static electricity as much as it is sheer suitability as an instrument platform. I have a KR-1 and a Glasair. Theoretically, both are IFR capable, but I would NEVER consider flying the KR in real instrument conditions. The KR's light controls make it simply too hard to fly hard IFR. Five minutes in the clouds and I am sweating bullets despite the fact that I have plenty of KR time and fly enough that I am able to consistently maintain IFR currency through regular flights. When it comes to hard IFR and KR's, I just say "no," and so, probably, should you. If you still want to do it and are worried about static discharge, then you'll have to electrically bond all the metal parts of your KR. That means connecting every hinge and bellcrank together with wire, lots of wire. It is a big job and generally not worth it. In 23 years of flying my Glasair (which is not statically bonded) the worst effect I've seen of static buildup was severe fading of my LORAN signal. Anyone still using LORAN? I rest my case. And if what you are talking about is protection from lightning strike, well that takes a lot more than bonding -- you actually have to put a layer of metal mesh in the fiberglass -- and if you are flying that close to lightning its just foolish. Bob At 02:33 AM 6/17/02 +0000, claude denoncourt wrote: > >hi guys > >can a kr be equip I F R if so how do u handle the static charge? > >claude >montreal > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ >and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:25:30 -0700 To: "krnet" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> kr with I F R Message-ID: It is always a good idea to have instruments that will help you fly in IFR conditions if you are ever as foolish as me and get yourself into that situation. I would not want to fly the KR in IFR conditions but the electric turn coordinator and VSI , along with a friend on the radio giving me some good advise and assistance saved my life. I was really wishing that I had a DG as that silly compass kept going the wrong way. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Darren Pond [mailto:pond27@rogers.com] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 11:07 PM To: krnet Subject: Re: KR> kr with I F R Be nice guys. My KR will be full IFR and no I don't have a death wish. The biggest point others have made in the past is the flight characteristics are not friendly to this kind of flying. So if you will be follow the plans you might want to keep it to a VFR only IFR trainer. Good value in this too I believe. Check the history on this as there has been lots of good info over the last 1.5 years that I have been here. Darren Pond working on my dream machine ----- Original Message ----- From: claude denoncourt To: Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: KR> kr with I F R > > hi guys > > can a kr be equip I F R if so how do u handle the static charge? > > claude > montreal > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 21:36:11 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> antenna construction Message-ID: <008801c215a7$ec6578f0$de02a58c@tbekhpjnuqn30g> > Hello again, Can anyone tell me what a baluns is on an > antenna and what is it used for? Also, how is it > installed? Thanks, Rick Wilson. There is a photo of a balun and how it's installed at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kpanel.html . It also details how to install the antenna in the vertical stabilizer. Mark Langford mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:51:16 -0700 (PDT) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: antenna construction Message-ID: <20020617025116.54701.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> Mr. Kirkland, I'm not sure I need a baluns. I had looked at several diagrams of how to build antennaes and some of them showed a baluns in the coax somewhere. I know what you are talking about now, so I don't think I even need one. I can solder the coax directly to the aluminum or copper strips. If I am incorrect in my thinking I would appreciate some advice. Thank You, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 23:29:18 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Jerry @ charter.net" Subject: Re: KR> Carburetor vs. injector Message-ID: <003f01c215c8$4fbbdeb0$6401a8c0@oldmyrddin> Dan, No one would ever accuse you of being confrontational....(inside joke). But my take on the carbuetor/injector is. They are both rather generic terms and can be applied to many totally diffrent devices. A carburetor is a device for mixing (injecting?) gasoline into air creating a gasoline vapor. An injector is a device for injecting (carbureating?) gasoline into air creating a gasoline vapor.... Just my $.02 worth; and that ain't much with inflation factored in.... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC http://kr-builder.org http://jerrymahurin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Heath" To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: KR> Carburetor vs. injector > I would like to continue this discussion, because I am not yet convinced > that the POSA and RevFlow are injectors and not carburetors. > > Does not a fuel injection system, inject fuel, as to force it into the > combustion chamber? If the distinguishing factor is whether or not it has a > float bowl, then what is the Ellison TBI? It has a float bowl. > > These so called injectors, only make fuel available to the air stream being > sucked into the cylinder, none of them force or inject fuel. > > I am not trying to be confrontational, I am just trying to understand why a > POSA is not a carburetor. > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:41:13 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kerry Miller Subject: Adrian's files Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020616224113.007acaa0@pop3.ticnet.com> OK, I've got the web page updated a little bit and added 3 links to those files I got from Adrian Carter. If you're really bored and want to check out my web site, go to: http://users.ticnet.com/kmiller01 and follow the KR link. Otherwise, here's the direct link to the page, near the top are 3 links to Adrian's picture files, all zipped up and ready to download. I finally took the time to look at some of them, there's a lot of good stuff in there! Here's the link to my KR page: http://users.ticnet.com/kmiller01/images/kr.htm If you have any problems, drop me an e-mail and we'll work it out. The links are to 3 zipped files so when you click the links it should pop up a box to ask you what to do with them. Save the files to a place on your hard drive where you can find them. Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:15:01 -0700 To: From: "bstarrs" Subject: Fw: KR> napalm cannister Message-ID: <002701c215bd$ef37a9c0$9200a8c0@bstarrs> Your right , drop tanks, but I also can not remember how to tie my shoe strings. Bill Starrs ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "Frank Ross" ; Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: Re: KR> napalm cannister > >> i was given a napalm can by my brother. > >> tom adams > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= = > > Perhaps someone on the list could verify but I seem to recall one or more > aircraft being built (back in the fifties mayby) from drop tanks. I don't > remember where I came by that info years ago but it seemed rather > novel at the time. I'm thinking they were fuel drop tanks. There seems > to be a lot of things I don't remember any more. > > Larry Flesner > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 07:23:12 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> kr with I F R-Rant:-) Message-ID: I'll chime it here since I have seen only two people comment on this issue. I think three voices are better than two in this regard. I own a Bonanza with autopilot and IFR approach certified GPS. I fly enough IFR to stay current in my regular flying, also. I point this out only as a means of qualifing my comments. The KR is not a good IFR airplane at all. It is far too unforgiving and deviations from intended orientations progress rapidly unless corrected very, very early. You will hear stories from people who say they have punched clouds and "there was this one time". It's somewhere you don't want to be in a KR, unless you are very good and don't spend much time in that element. The best IFR thing you can do in your KR is learn how long it takes you to do a coordinated 180 degree turn. Take another pilot with you and bring along a hood. At some point your passenger (not you) says, "You're in the clouds". Put the hood on, remember it's not your choice when you inadvertantly fly into the clouds. Look at your 180 turn mark and gently roll into a standard rate turn. If you don't have a turn coordintor, this is whatever roll will allow you to progress three degrees per second. When you are trying to figure this out in your KR, use 5 seconds first and figure out the roll rate to get 15 degrees of turn. Roll in and start timing. If you maintain this roll rate (remember altitude also) you will roll out on your reciprical heading in 1 minute. If you are not IFR rated, this will be the longest one minute in your life. Remember, don't panic, you know it is going to take one minute to do the 180 and another bit of time to fly back out of the soup. Practice flying in conditions (simulated) other than the norm. Nothing exciting in life happens during normal conditions, it's the unexpected that grabs you by the bal#s. Off the soap box:-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host http://rvflying.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:19:32 -0400 To: From: "Audrey and Harold Woods" Subject: coulings Message-ID: <001601c21601$9eee7040$b0046418@baol.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C215E0.17242EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What temperatures are present in an engine area if the engine is fully = couled in aluminum? Could the exterior coul be epoxy glass/foam/epoxy = glass. What temperatures can the different foams = stand?(urethane,polystyrene etc) Harold Woods. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C215E0.17242EA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:46:44 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: asavant@notes.state.ne.us Subject: 2500cc VW based Message-ID: This is my first post on the KR mailing list. I have been impressed by the amount of accumulative knowledge all of you possess. I am still considering which aircraft to build. I might have time and money to build only one in my lifetime and I want it to be everything I want it to be. The KR is a great option. Well that said, let me get to my question. Has anyone got any information on the 2500cc VW based 180HP engine that is advertised at http://www.altimizer.com/specs.html (scroll to the bottom of the page)? If you have no info on the engine, do you know anything about this company? I am sure all of you must be wondering why such a big engine for the KR? Well, I am going through a design exercise for a 180HP cross country plane for the not so rich builder. Some day it might become a reality (it doesn't hurt to dream) and this one engine seems to be the cheapest option there is. All comments are welcome. Thank you. Ameet Savant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:09:42 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: asavant@notes.state.ne.us Subject: Re: 2500cc VW based Message-ID: Larry, I think you might be right, they claim the engine weighs 190lbs and if it generates 180HP that is almost 1HP per LB. These people are sitting on a gold mine because most all engines generate 1/2 HP per LB! But then again, maybe they really are are honest! Thanks Ameet "Larry A. Capps" m> cc: Subject: 2500cc VW based 06/17/2002 09:08 AM Please respond to lacapps Hello Ameet, Do not believe what you read. The engine you speak of might weigh 180 pounds, but it will make 80 HP. Do not be fooled! Best Regards, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- From: asavant@notes.state.ne.us [mailto:asavant@notes.state.ne.us] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:47 AM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> 2500cc VW based This is my first post on the KR mailing list. I have been impressed by the amount of accumulative knowledge all of you possess. I am still considering which aircraft to build. I might have time and money to build only one in my lifetime and I want it to be everything I want it to be. The KR is a great option. Well that said, let me get to my question. Has anyone got any information on the 2500cc VW based 180HP engine that is advertised at http://www.altimizer.com/specs.html (scroll to the bottom of the page)? If you have no info on the engine, do you know anything about this company? I am sure all of you must be wondering why such a big engine for the KR? Well, I am going through a design exercise for a 180HP cross country plane for the not so rich builder. Some day it might become a reality (it doesn't hurt to dream) and this one engine seems to be the cheapest option there is. All comments are welcome. Thank you. Ameet Savant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:55:03 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: asavant@notes.state.ne.us Subject: Re: KR> graphite and Kevlar cowling Message-ID: Boeing also has an online version at http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/surplus/retail/ Ameet Savant David Mullins > cc: krnet Subject: Re: KR> graphite and Kevlar cowling 06/16/2002 02:57 PM Darren, The Boeing surplus store is located in Kent, Washington near Seattle/Tacoma. At least that is where it was when I visited the store a few years back. Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire Darren Pond wrote: > HI All > > Question one > > Kit Planes Falcon Grand reserve champion plane article. Dec 2001.....The builder used 3 layer of Graphite and 2 layers of Kevlar to build his 0.04 thick engine cowling . His is 10# lighter then the stock versions. Why did he use Graphite? He purchased wing fiberglass from the Boeing surplus store at $10 a roll of 2 oz glass cloth. Any idea where this surplus store is? > > Question two > > I need to replace the piston rings on my Continental A65/70. Any idea where the best supply house is? I need it shipped to Canada also. > > Darren Pond > awaiting finial major mod inspection on C-FVML Taylor Mono plane and waiting and waiting and waiting.......... > working slowly on Pondhopper Dream KR2S plane --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ and at http://www.bouyea.net/ for the older ones ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:11:23 -0500 To: From: "Thomas C Adams" Subject: coax impedance Message-ID: <005e01c21608$ddf278c0$43cdacd1@tomadams> ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C215DE.F37131C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rg58 is said to have an impedance of 50 ohms because it's capacitance = per foot and it's inductance per foot makes it look like a plain old 50 = ohm carbon comp resistor at practical frequencies. resistance per foot is practically nil at aircraft frequencies. bigger = is better, but the integrity of the connections is generally more = important. ideally, one matches impedances. if the radio has a 50 ohm output, you = use 50 ohm cable. antennas are more complicated but some have know impedances e.g. quarter = wave, etc. hope this sheds some light with a minimum of heat. tom adams ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C215DE.F37131C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:14:41 -0400 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Conley, Paul W." Subject: Injectors / Carb Message-id: <070AE2805DAC5F409222E15F3FCA421606BEE5D3@uuhil-354> --Boundary_(ID_evN90q1DVaCfJ3A9jvpPWQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=us-ascii Daniel, I run a Posa. (I am not endorsing! I know ...one of the few that does seem OK) Any way, True Posa isn't a normal "carb".. I recken I would simply call it a metering device. Unlike an injector setup, it has no monitoring of Throttle position or airflow. It simply relies on the Venturas vacuum to assist the pull of fuel from it's main jet. Carbs rely on a float bowl w/ needle and seat to shutoff fuel when the bowl fills up. This bowl of a carb then supplies the correct fuel height to draw fuel from ..through the main and Idle passages. An injector is either mechanically or electrically "opened" to allow fuel from a high pressure source to squirt fuel into either the cylinder or an intake manifold of sorts. Typically either one injector per cylinder or a couple mounted into a throttle body.(The latter really resembles a carb) Either case, airflow is monitored by a throttle position sensor and a mass airflow sensor. These two monitorings can then "tell" the injector (computerized or Bosch mechanical style) how long to stay open and therefore how much fuel to dispense. Hope this helps ! Thank you, Paul Conley LAN-WAN Engineer, Global Hosting GHNEI (Net. Eng. & Implementation) UUNET, an MCI WorldCom Company (614) 723-7647 / paul.conley@wcom.com --Boundary_(ID_evN90q1DVaCfJ3A9jvpPWQ)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:21:23 -0400 To: "'krnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Conley, Paul W." Subject: To lighten or not to lighten?? Message-id: <070AE2805DAC5F409222E15F3FCA421606BEE5D4@uuhil-354> --Boundary_(ID_/bpT0kii232FRJ3Y6zU+FA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=us-ascii All, OK once again I seek out comments from all the fine folks here....... Got ya wondering?? Simple ... My KR2 had retracts when originally built in 79. I am now putting Fixed TD gear on it. I have 3 aluminum castings that were for the gear still bolted to the main spar. Can any one think of a reason why I should not remove them from the spar? Currently I could imaging they would add a strength to the spar top to bottom... If I would remove them, I would need to seal the holes... How about putting the bolts back in with only washers? Comments? Thank you, Paul Conley LAN-WAN Engineer, Global Hosting GHNEI (Net. Eng. & Implementation) UUNET, an MCI WorldCom Company (614) 723-7647 / paul.conley@wcom.com --Boundary_(ID_/bpT0kii232FRJ3Y6zU+FA)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:27:40 -0400 To: "Conley, Paul W." , From: "RONALD.FREIBERGER" Subject: RE: KR> To lighten or not to lighten?? Message-ID: Glue the holes shut by pressing in some flox. The issue is to seal them from moisture. overcoat with a bit of straight epoxy for a final seal. No added strength issues involved. If there were proper plywood plates installed, then this is probably the strongest part of the spar system. Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Conley, Paul W. [mailto:paul.conley@wcom.com] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:21 PM To: 'krnet@mailinglists.org' Subject: KR> To lighten or not to lighten?? All, OK once again I seek out comments from all the fine folks here....... Got ya wondering?? Simple ... My KR2 had retracts when originally built in 79. I am now putting Fixed TD gear on it. I have 3 aluminum castings that were for the gear still bolted to the main spar. Can any one think of a reason why I should not remove them from the spar? Currently I could imaging they would add a strength to the spar top to bottom... If I would remove them, I would need to seal the holes... How about putting the bolts back in with only washers? Comments? Thank you, Paul Conley LAN-WAN Engineer, Global Hosting GHNEI (Net. Eng. & Implementation) UUNET, an MCI WorldCom Company (614) 723-7647 / paul.conley@wcom.com ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************