From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 14 Jul 2002 13:08:38 -0000 Issue 474 Date: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:09 AM krnet Digest 14 Jul 2002 13:08:38 -0000 Issue 474 Topics (messages 11424 through 11453): Re: What I Don't like about KR 11424 by: virgnvs.juno.com 11431 by: Ronald Freiberger 11442 by: CHOCTAWCWR.aol.com KRNetiquette 11425 by: Mark Langford Re: Canopy Hinge Direction 11426 by: Mr. Bryce Guenther Canopy 11427 by: John and Janet Martindale 11433 by: larry flesner 11436 by: Daniel Heath 11441 by: larry flesner 11443 by: Mark Langford Eyeballing your project 11428 by: Robert Stone I'm Making A Plea 11429 by: Mark Jones 11430 by: Mark Jones 11438 by: Mark Jones 11439 by: Mark Jones 11440 by: Mark Jones Canopy and such 11432 by: Ricky Farley Canopy...Final Decision 11434 by: Mark Jones canopy tint 11435 by: larry flesner Re: Paint for your KR? 11437 by: Chris & Ang Canopys 11444 by: Edwin Blocher Cowl Inlets 11445 by: JIM VANCE 11446 by: Daniel Heath 11447 by: Mark Langford 11448 by: Robert X. Cringely Re: sonex gear 11449 by: TONY SOLDANO 11450 by: Robert X. Cringely I'm sorry 11451 by: B Roe Re: Canopy...Rear Tilt 11452 by: Phillip Matheson Update: Archives accessability 11453 by: John Bouyea Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:46:31 -0400 To: ron.martha@mindspring.com From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> What I Don't like about KR Message-ID: <20020712.135955.-382883.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Right. It is just a bit too wide for legal street towing. Built my KR-2 with the square sides and put only a short tailpost in the fus area unly. Will use the hinge bolts to fasten the tailpost to it later, Virg On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:43:16 -0400 "Ronald Freiberger" writes: > I've always thought KR aircraft were excellent, but there are two > things > that have annoyed me; maybe I'm getting crotchety. > > When I moved last year, I had a real problem getting the fuselage > moved, > because the landing gear tread is just a bit wider that almost all > rental > trailer and car carriers. I would make it down to 80 inches if I > did > another. > > I envy those guys who built a plne in the alley in 6 weeks, 'cause > my > project runs into years. All this time, I've been working around > that > vertical stabiliser post sticking up like a sore ----. If I started > from > scratch, I'd pit in a dummy plug and glue that hummer on later. > > Ron Freiberger... > mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:04:37 -0400 To: From: "Ronald Freiberger" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> What I Don't like about KR Message-ID: I didn't care about Legal, nor did the cops, but getting it onto a trailer, even ofr a makeshift short trip, was apain in the posterior Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:47 PM To: ron.martha@mindspring.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> What I Don't like about KR Right. It is just a bit too wide for legal street towing. Built my KR-2 with the square sides and put only a short tailpost in the fus area unly. Will use the hinge bolts to fasten the tailpost to it later, Virg On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 09:43:16 -0400 "Ronald Freiberger" writes: > I've always thought KR aircraft were excellent, but there are two > things > that have annoyed me; maybe I'm getting crotchety. > > When I moved last year, I had a real problem getting the fuselage > moved, > because the landing gear tread is just a bit wider that almost all > rental > trailer and car carriers. I would make it down to 80 inches if I > did > another. > > I envy those guys who built a plne in the alley in 6 weeks, 'cause > my > project runs into years. All this time, I've been working around > that > vertical stabiliser post sticking up like a sore ----. If I started > from > scratch, I'd pit in a dummy plug and glue that hummer on later. > > Ron Freiberger... > mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:33:17 EDT To: ron.martha@mindspring.com, virgnvs@juno.com From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> What I Don't like about KR Message-ID: <160.10835ffd.2a60eb6d@aol.com> --part1_160.10835ffd.2a60eb6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i hauled mine on a 16 ft. trailer with sides and fenders, just put a piece of channel iron on the top rail and set the wheels in that, wasnt as wide as the fenders on the trailer but almost, i supported the tail with a 2x6 and went down the road like i had good sense. charles robison atlanta, texas kr factory --part1_160.10835ffd.2a60eb6d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:54:39 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KRNetiquette Message-ID: <01fd01c229dd$f5c20680$7600a8c0@athlon600> KRNetHeads, Since it's been over a year and half since I posted this, it's time for the usual comments, which are in no particular order. Of course those that need to read this most will figure it's not meant for them, so I'd appreciate it if you'd all take another look at it. Some of the things below we are doing well at, but a few of us would do well to follow the advice below. 1) When replying to a post, delete everything but a few key sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to search thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some clown wrote "me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from previous posts also gives people fits when searching the archives later, as they end up getting 10 hits for the same message. 2} Conversely, at least put SOMETHING in the post to remind us what you're replying to. A post like "yeah, that's how I did mine and it works great" doesn't mean a thing if you don't know what the guy's talking about, so please cut and paste some of what you're replying to above your comments. 3) Carefully consider whether or not you need to reply to a post. Saying "me too", or "I don't know" doesn't contribute to the thread, it just makes the list more bothersome. If you don't know what you're talking about, maybe you should be listening, rather than talking. There are FEW people who know everything about everything. Try to stick to things you KNOW about, and let others answer the rest. 4) Try to write "keeper" posts if you're the expert on something. Cover the whole issue, answer all possible questions, address both sides of an issue, and make it a post that others will want to save or print out. Those are the gems that we all search for on KRNet. 5) Put your email address in your signature to make emailing others "offnet" easier. If we all had our addresses at the bottom of our posts, it would be far easier to "email direct". If it's blue just click on it, if it's not, cut it and paste it into the "To" box. 6) If you don't have anything subtantial to say, please don't post anything. This is a KR list, and as such, really needs to stay focused on KRs, or at least airplanes. With over 650 people on the list, if we all decided to say something every day we'd have a real problem. Ask yourself "do 650 people really need to see this, or are 650 people going to be annoyed by this?" Personally, my time is pretty precious to me, and I hate to waste it reading inane email. And is it something that you could find somewhere else? 7) Don't send enclosed files directly to the list. Either post it to a web site or get someone else to post it so others can see if they want, but don't have to if they don't. Also, enclosures are famous for carrying viruses, which we could all do without. I usually delete messages with enclosures immediately, unless I'm expecting something from that person. I don't have two days to rebuild my computer "for fun". 8) If you have something you want to share, specify that you want replies to go offline. It's nice to say "hey, I've got the holy grail on thingamajigs, anybody want it?", but when 15 people reply online that they want it it gets kinda painful wading thru all of those posts for nothing. A gentle reminder to "reply offline" and furnishing your email address will be a big help. 9) Do not advertise to this list. It's OK to let folks know there's a new service or a new business, but point them to web site. We don't need a bunch of advertising here. Personal testimonials as to a product's usefullness are welcome anytime, as long as it's not YOUR product. Selling KR parts is permissible anytime, however. 10) Try not to take things personally. We're all here to help each other. There are usually several ways to take comments. Always try to pick the "nicest" interpretation, rather than trying to read animousity into a post. It's a lot easier to just ignore a snide comment and let it slide. Try to avoid "having the last word". 11) It's OK to interject some personality into emails, just make a contribution while you're at it. I like to let other KRNetters know who I am and what my interests are, but I try to tack that sort of stuff to the bottom of a post in which I've made some sort of contribution to the cause. 12) Keep personal stuff offline. Finding that some other KRNetter is from your neck of the woods isn't a good enough reason to bother us all with your efforts to strike up an acquantance. Email him direct, rather than to the list. 13) Those who violate these suggestions may find themselves wondering why they don't get KRNet mail anymore... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:11:02 -0400 To: laheze@ev1.net ("Larry"), flykr2s@wi.rr.com From: flykrs@netscape.net (Mr. Bryce Guenther) Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR> Canopy Hinge Direction Message-ID: <5924367D.0C62EB23.00062CFF@netscape.net> On the Prowler/Javelin the canopy at 240 mph would generate 500 lbs of lift. The canopy attachment must be substantial even in the KR. Most canopys were designed to hinge on the right this feature has an interesting origin, Horses everybody got on the horse on the left side so much so for the winged horse. My KR refrigerator door piano hinges on the left I wanted to be different. The FAR's have something about egress capabilites perhaps someone knows about that FAR? __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:39:31 +1000 To: "KRnet" From: "John and Janet Martindale" Subject: Canopy Message-ID: <004d01c229f5$1a2a47a0$c8de12d2@m1g0x7> ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C22A48.CF5A2AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks Some detail on my canopy as posted at Mark L's site. It is called Bambi = style (don't know why. Ask the inventor....Mark or Mike Mims??). The = canopy rails are 1/4" ply with a piece of 1" angle bolted to them about = 14" long (as long as the bend in the rail will allow). This is all then = covered with foam, shaped to the canopy frame and glassed. The leading = end of the angle is concealed in "Bambi's horn" but takes an AN3 bolt at = right angles into a small bearing. The bearing is pressed into a strip = of 1/8" plate about 3" long that slots down through the double longerons = and is bolted to the fuselage sides. It is immediately adjacent to the = cross member supporting the panel which acts as the support provided by = the torque tube referred to earlier by Mark. I formed the vertical cutout at the sides of the front deck after = installing the latter. It was quite easy to block it up with foam from = behind prior to the cut and then to glass over. For me, the biggest = problem with the side opening option is how to hinge it given the curve = in the longerons. Finally make sure you give yourself plenty of headroom....don't forget = headsets, hats, helmets, pointy heads etc. all take up space. If I were = doing my seat again, I would make it as low as possible (just above my = my elevator rod) and then pad it upwards if needed. =20 John and Janet Martindale 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 66584767 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C22A48.CF5A2AC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:48:31 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Canopy Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020712194831.0083bde0@mail.midwest.net> Netters, While we are discussing canopys I'll through in my two cents worth. You can see my results on Mark Jones web site under my name. I went with the fixed windshield, gullwing door, for safety and ease of entry. I used the forward portion of a broken Pulsar canopy for the fixed windshield and cut my KR half bubble up for the side glass. I laid up two plywood and fiberglass bows, windshield and turtledeck, with an interconnect to mount the gullwing door on. My gullwing opens up 60% of the top as measured from longeron to longeron. The door is mounted using rod end bearings and has 3/16" locking rods, front and rear at the bottom, that operate with a single lever. I can shake my entire airframe using my outside handle and the door has zero movement. The Pulsar canopy is very similar to the KR2S canopy and anyone with the 2s canopy and guts enough to cut it up could build something very similar but with even more glass area. My entire right side panel is removable for maintenance and doubles as an emergency exit. It is secured at the top with three number 10 screws and at the bottom to the top longeron with two canopy latches. In the event of a roll over or other emergency, the two latches can be opened and with the "leverage" available, the three buried nut at the top can be broken out without a problem. No,I'm not going to test that, I'm just convinced I'll be able to do it. ( I just went out and took a measurement and I have a 46:1 leverage advantage) I have the latches painted red and they will be marked for emergency exit only. I'm 6'4", 200 pounds, and the large single door lets me in and out without a problem. Also, I can help a passanger in, get them settled, and then I climb in and reverse that process after the flight. Having seen (on aircraft) most of the canopy options discussed here, I would not change a single thing on mine! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:16:30 -0700 To: "Krnet@Mailinglists.Org" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Canopy Message-ID: Amazing,,, How fast you did that. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Bob Farmer [mailto:rfarmer@naxs.net] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 7:51 AM To: krnet Subject: Re: KR> Canopy I think that one Dragonfly canopy I saw hinged at the front but had a release that would allow the hinge to be cut free in an emergency. Speaking of canopies I have cut the door in mine and have a couple of pic at http://www.foamhead.com/Builders%20pages/KR2%20Bob%20Farmer.html I think this was the best choice for me both in cost & work. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "JC Marais" To: "Mark Jones" ; "KR-Net" Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: KR> Canopy > Mark, > > I am planning to mount mine at the front. > The only reason for this plan is that the prop blast will try to close it, > and not break it from its mountings. > > I once had a flip in a Samba. It is sort of a motorised glider, powered by > a 912. Anyway, Samba had its canopy (very nicely) designed to open to the > rear. For takeoff, and with a little bit of headwind, we had to cut the > motor, close canopy and restart. It just was not possible to pull the > canopy closed, even with the motor idling at the slowest speed. > > On the other hand, it might be technically easier to fit the brackets > somewhere behind the back of your head. > > Cheers. > > JC Marais > South Africa > jcmarais@intekom.co.za > Tel: (+27)12 - 660-1463 (H) > (+27)12 - 350-1587 (W) > Cell phone : 082-401-5259 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:11:19 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Canopy Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020712211119.00913310@mail.midwest.net> building tip on my canopy. I had my windshield and turtledeck installed before I filled in between them. I protected my windshield and used a 2 inch wide, 1/8 inch thick piece of plywood about 36 inches long with about 30 inches of sandpaper mounted on it and was able to sand some compound curves in the door and side glass area. Your results may vary! It should go without saying, keep the sand paper off the windshield, protected or not. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:49:00 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Canopy Message-ID: <001d01c22a17$d8147930$7600a8c0@athlon600> All this gullwing canopy talk reminded me of a KR2S canopy that I saw being built by a perfectionist in Gulf Shores, Alabama a few weeks ago. Details are at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/sandersen/ . By the way, I sent my money for Newsletter and CD the day before yesterday, so I believe I have y'all beat on that one... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:52:24 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Eyeballing your project Message-ID: <000f01c229f6$ca605640$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C229CC.E15F94C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters: Are any of you builders living in or close to Statesville, = North Carolina. I will be making a trip there in October and would like = to see your project, drink some beer and talk airplanes, (I will bring = the beer) Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C229CC.E15F94C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:06:27 -0500 To: "KR Builders List \(E-mail\)" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: I'm Making A Plea Message-ID: <001701c229f8$c0d66720$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> Fellow Builders and KR Flyers, I have been talking to Larry Capps and have seen examples of what he is planning on doing with the Newsletter, Searchable CD and other benefits. I strongly feel this is a service we are all able to benefit from. Larry has taken on quite a project here at a cost which most of us would think prohibitive, especially if you knew what the right to the Newsletter cost Larry. I have seen post from some expressing that they hope Larry honors the remaining subscriptions which were paid to the previous editor. Listen carefully here...the monies which were collected from you for your subscription were not passed on to Larry as the new Editor. For Larry to honor those outstanding subscriptions would be cost prohibitive for him. My personal subscription is still good for eight more months. However, I do not expect Larry to honor this at his expense!!! I would like to see the Newsletter survive this transition and this can only be done with all of our help. I will be sending Larry my $24 for a new subscription and I am MAKING A PLEA to all of you to follow my actions whether you already have a subscription or not. This Newsletter will be the best we have seen so far as we have a new Editor who cares and is proud to be the Editor. Remember, a measly $24 is a small price to pay for what you will reap! Please get that subscription money in the mail to Larry ASAP and the Newsletter will LIVE!!!! Thanks everyone for being a part of the KR Family. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: "KR Builders List (E-mail)" > Ok, so here's the only way we can keep the KR Newsletter alive and well, > we need you to subscribe to one year of the KR Newsletter, It's that simple. > Without your subscription, there will be no newsletter. > > Lets keep the KR Newsletter alive, with your subscription we will continue > to provide for one of the longest running hobby newsletters, with its twelve > yearly issues of tips, and information about KR's, builders and flyers. > > Make your check or money order payable to: > > KR Newsletter > 10S485 Book Road > Naperville, IL 60564 > > $24.00 - (12 issues KR Newsletter - US subscriber) > > $32.00 - (12 issues KR Newsletter - Foreign subscriber) > > $45.00 - (27 years of the KR Newsletter on CD) > > Please make your payment submitted in US Dollars or drafted on USA financial > institution. > > > Best Regards, > > Larry A. Capps > KR Newsletter > Naperville, IL > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:19:45 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: I'm Making A Plea Message-ID: <007801c229fa$9c091940$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> Fellow Builders and KR Flyers, I have been talking to Larry Capps and have seen examples of what he is planning on doing with the Newsletter, Searchable CD and other benefits. I strongly feel this is a service we are all able to benefit from. Larry has taken on quite a project here at a cost which most of us would think prohibitive, especially if you knew what the right to the Newsletter cost Larry. I have seen post from some expressing that they hope Larry honors the remaining subscriptions which were paid to the previous editor. Listen carefully here...the monies which were collected from you for your subscription were not passed on to Larry as the new Editor. For Larry to honor those outstanding subscriptions would be cost prohibitive for him. My personal subscription is still good for eight more months. However, I do not expect Larry to honor this at his expense!!! I would like to see the Newsletter survive this transition and this can only be done with all of our help. I will be sending Larry my $24 for a new subscription and I am MAKING A PLEA to all of you to follow my actions whether you already have a subscription or not. This Newsletter will be the best we have seen so far as we have a new Editor who cares and is proud to be the Editor. Remember, a measly $24 is a small price to pay for what you will reap! Please get that subscription money in the mail to Larry ASAP and the Newsletter will LIVE!!!! Thanks everyone for being a part of the KR Family. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry A. Capps" > To: "KR Builders List (E-mail)" > > > Ok, so here's the only way we can keep the KR Newsletter alive and well, > > we need you to subscribe to one year of the KR Newsletter, It's that > simple. > > Without your subscription, there will be no newsletter. > > > > Lets keep the KR Newsletter alive, with your subscription we will continue > > to provide for one of the longest running hobby newsletters, with its > twelve > > yearly issues of tips, and information about KR's, builders and flyers. > > > > Make your check or money order payable to: > > > > KR Newsletter > > 10S485 Book Road > > Naperville, IL 60564 > > > > $24.00 - (12 issues KR Newsletter - US subscriber) > > > > $32.00 - (12 issues KR Newsletter - Foreign subscriber) > > > > $45.00 - (27 years of the KR Newsletter on CD) > > > > Please make your payment submitted in US Dollars or drafted on USA > financial > > institution. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Larry A. Capps > > KR Newsletter > > Naperville, IL > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:10:49 -0500 To: , "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Fw: KR> I'm Making A Plea Message-ID: <00d401c22a12$82015ae0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> I agree with Mark Jones. If we want to continue receiving the newsletter we need to get our money in now. I sent my money in for the newsletter and CD this morning. We can't expect Larry to pay for someone else's shortcomings. Larry did a fine job on his first newsletter and I'm looking forward to the next one. Mike Turner KR2s ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:14:23 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> I'm Making A Plea Message-ID: <00e201c22a13$015b48a0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> I agree with Mark Jones. If we want to continue receiving the newsletter we need to get our money in now. I sent my money in for the newsletter and CD this morning. We can't expect Larry to pay for someone else's shortcomings. Larry did a fine job on his first newsletter and I'm looking forward to the next one. Mike Turner KR2s ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:15:40 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> I'm Making A Plea Message-ID: <00e801c22a13$2f314ae0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> My check's ready gone ... ;o) Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Jones [mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 7:06 PM > To: KR Builders List (E-mail) > Subject: KR> I'm Making A Plea > > > Fellow Builders and KR Flyers, > I have been talking to Larry Capps and have seen examples of what he is > planning on doing with the Newsletter, Searchable CD and other benefits. I > strongly feel this is a service we are all able to benefit from. Larry has > taken on quite a project here at a cost which most of us would think > prohibitive, especially if you knew what the right to the Newsletter cost > Larry. I have seen post from some expressing that they hope Larry honors the > remaining subscriptions which were paid to the previous editor. Listen > carefully here...the monies which were collected from you for your > subscription were not passed on to Larry as the new Editor. For Larry to > honor those outstanding subscriptions would be cost prohibitive for him. My > personal subscription is still good for eight more months. However, I do not > expect Larry to honor this at his expense!!! I would like to see the > Newsletter survive this transition and this can only be done with all of our > help. I will be sending Larry my $24 for a new subscription and I am MAKING > A PLEA to all of you to follow my actions whether you already have a > subscription or not. This Newsletter will be the best we have seen so far as > we have a new Editor who cares and is proud to be the Editor. Remember, a > measly $24 is a small price to pay for what you will reap! Please get that > subscription money in the mail to Larry ASAP and the Newsletter will > LIVE!!!! Thanks everyone for being a part of the KR Family. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry A. Capps" > To: "KR Builders List (E-mail)" > > > Ok, so here's the only way we can keep the KR Newsletter alive and well, > > we need you to subscribe to one year of the KR Newsletter, It's that > simple. > > Without your subscription, there will be no newsletter. > > > > Lets keep the KR Newsletter alive, with your subscription we will continue > > to provide for one of the longest running hobby newsletters, with its > twelve > > yearly issues of tips, and information about KR's, builders and flyers. > > > > Make your check or money order payable to: > > > > KR Newsletter > > 10S485 Book Road > > Naperville, IL 60564 > > > > $24.00 - (12 issues KR Newsletter - US subscriber) > > > > $32.00 - (12 issues KR Newsletter - Foreign subscriber) > > > > $45.00 - (27 years of the KR Newsletter on CD) > > > > Please make your payment submitted in US Dollars or drafted on USA > financial > > institution. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Larry A. Capps > > KR Newsletter > > Naperville, IL > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:30:31 -0500 To: From: "Ricky Farley" Subject: Canopy and such Message-ID: <006c01c22a04$8201b160$6401a8c0@ENTERPRISE> ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C229DA.992BA960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unfortunately, I have been unable to work on my plane or check the KRNet for the last 4 weeks or so. As such, I was glad to see all the posts about a group order for dragonfly canopies. I'm at the point now in my construction where I put together the two sides. I've been debating how wide to make the fuselage (stock, 3 or 4 inches wider, etc) and had already decided to go with the dragonfly canopy. If we can get a good deal on a bulk order, count me in. I do have another question for the group though: what are major differences (besides the obvious) between the tinted canopies and the clear. Is it simply a matter of preference, or are their other factors. An extra $150 is not much in the grand scheme of things if there is a valid reason to go with the tinted canopies. Looking for the preferences of those of ya'll that have the experience in matters such as these. Thanks, Ricky San Angelo Texas KR2S-pre boat stage ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C229DA.992BA960-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:03:50 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Canopy...Final Decision Message-ID: <00ad01c22a09$294ed660$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C229DF.3EB39EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all who have replied to my request for canopy hinge methods. = My decision is to make a gull wing design. I was planning on making my = forward deck removable but with my new decision for the gull wing design = (pilot side only), the forward deck will also be permanently attached. I = will have an access door in the forward deck to allow access to the = inside behind the instrument panel. My instrument panel will remain = removable as planned. My decision is based on safety, ease of sealing = the canopy and ease of making a gull wing door. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C229DF.3EB39EC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:00:53 -0500 To: From: larry flesner Subject: canopy tint Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020712200053.0082c6c0@mail.midwest.net> After several hours setting in mine while outside and several minutes of taxi time in the back yard, my advise is the light grey or whatever the slightly darkened glass is. I lucked out and all the glass I got had this very light tint. I'm convinced it would be worth the slight extra cost. How many hours do you plan to spend in the cockpit and in the sun? Also, plan plenty of ventilation into the cockpit. It gets real hot, real fast in the sun! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:58:32 -0400 To: "Peg and Mike Meyer" , "Ron Eason" , From: "Chris & Ang" Subject: Re: KR> Paint for your KR? Message-ID: I believe it's $600CAD/Pint. I've seen a few trikes with the paint. One really neat idea that it was used for was flames. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg and Mike Meyer" To: "Ron Eason" ; Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: Re: KR> Paint for your KR? > Ford used a very similar product on a limited production run of Cobra > Mustangs a few years back - the product was manufactured by 3M and it was > called Mystique. It was (is) enormously expensive and apparently, difficult > to apply. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Eason" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:16 PM > Subject: KR> Paint for your KR? > > > > http://www.colorshift.com/ > > > > Take a look at this. > > > > KRRon > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:10:10 -0500 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Canopys Message-ID: <009501c22a23$2f3946e0$7f9131cc@cyou.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C229F9.45351F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THANKS AGAIN to guess who, Mark Langford has come through again with = canopy drawings. Todd at Todds Canopys is going to make a prototype out = of cheap plastic and send to me for a fit on my plane. I will get photos = posted as soon as I recieve it. The price will be $300.00 for clear and = $450.00 for Grey tint. If we can get a good quantity order together I'm = sure the price will go down. From what I have heard he makes a top = quality canopy. Again Mark has been a great help, Thanks Mark. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, Florid blocher@cyou.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C229F9.45351F20-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:30:48 -0500 To: "kr net" From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: Cowl Inlets Message-ID: <000a01c22a93$07f8cc20$3b000a0a@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C22A69.1DDC3A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm starting to ponder what the shape of my cowling will be. I have a = VW engine with a rear drive, and the starter sits right in the way of = the right inlet. I can make a good expansion ramp on the right side, = but I don't know how to handle the starter problem. Should I make the = right opening larger than the left? Would the expansion ramp work okay = with the starter in the middle of the air stream? I can raise the openings near the top of the cowling, but the starter = would still be in the way. I would really like any experiences or opinions on this. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C22A69.1DDC3A60-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:38:38 -0700 To: "kr net" From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Cowl Inlets Message-ID: Jim, The only thing that I can tell you about this is that you do want to ramp the air up over most of the front cylinders. The idea is to have the air turbulent and going down between and around the cylinders. If you allow the air to ram into the front cylinders, they will cool too much with respect to the rear ones. Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG -----Original Message----- From: JIM VANCE [mailto:VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:31 AM To: kr net Subject: KR> Cowl Inlets I'm starting to ponder what the shape of my cowling will be. I have a VW engine with a rear drive, and the starter sits right in the way of the right inlet. I can make a good expansion ramp on the right side, but I don't know how to handle the starter problem. Should I make the right opening larger than the left? Would the expansion ramp work okay with the starter in the middle of the air stream? I can raise the openings near the top of the cowling, but the starter would still be in the way. I would really like any experiences or opinions on this. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:41:02 -0500 To: "kr net" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Cowl Inlets Message-ID: <016101c22ab5$fcc3c210$0100a8c0@TD310> I don't know what to tell you about the starter either. But I can tell you that having the inlets down low (where the cowling is sloping rearward as it gets lower) is a good thing because you get max cooling while climbing at max power. Ramps can then be used to get the air up to where it needs to go, but it sounds like the starter might still be in the way. Is it the setup shown at http://www.greatplainsas.com/reardr.jpeg ? I thought GPASC was going to put that starter at the bottom. I guess it won't fit that way? There's also an annualar ring inlet setup that you could probably use, if you don't mind building a whole different cowling. The annualar ring is supposed to be a pretty effiicient setup. It's shown in one of Bengelis's books, and isn't as difficult as it appears. I saw one at Oshkosh last year that made it look simple. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Heath" To: "kr net" Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: RE: KR> Cowl Inlets > Jim, > > The only thing that I can tell you about this is that you do want to ramp > the air up over most of the front cylinders. The idea is to have the air > turbulent and going down between and around the cylinders. If you allow the > air to ram into the front cylinders, they will cool too much with respect to > the rear ones. > > Daniel R. Heath > > See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org > > See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JIM VANCE [mailto:VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM] > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:31 AM > To: kr net > Subject: KR> Cowl Inlets > > > I'm starting to ponder what the shape of my cowling will be. I have a VW > engine with a rear drive, and the starter sits right in the way of the right > inlet. I can make a good expansion ramp on the right side, but I don't know > how to handle the starter problem. Should I make the right opening larger > than the left? Would the expansion ramp work okay with the starter in the > middle of the air stream? > > I can raise the openings near the top of the cowling, but the starter would > still be in the way. > > I would really like any experiences or opinions on this. > > Jim Vance > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:56:47 -0700 To: "Mark Langford" , "kr net" From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> Cowl Inlets Message-Id: Annular inlets aren't as good in practice as they appear to be on paper. Brien Seeley (Cafe Foundation president) has one on his Mooney and he's tell you it isn't worth the trouble. Van had one on the prototype RV-6 and you know he would have kept it had it performed well. The fact is that most of the annular inlet research came from work with radial engines where the cooling needs were so great that the inlet wasn't subject to the undue boundary layer influence we see on lower power engines. The inlet is so small and so close to the spinner that you get little Q, just stagnant boundary layer air for the most part. If you want a more efficient inlet that avoids the starter, go for a single inlet below the prop and displaced a bit just like the current KingAir C-90. It doesn't have to be updraft, either. Just FYI, my O-320 Glasair has an inlet area of 22 square inches (standard is 60) and an outlet area (with cowl flap closed) of 11 square inches (standard is 85). Through carefully designed diffusers and exit ramps, the engine actually runs cooler than stock. Of course it helps, too, that I have a fixed pitch prop and tend to climb at 140 indicated. Bob At 4:41 PM -0500 7/13/02, Mark Langford wrote: >I don't know what to tell you about the starter either. But I can tell you >that having the inlets down low (where the cowling is sloping rearward as it >gets lower) is a good thing because you get max cooling while climbing at >max power. Ramps can then be used to get the air up to where it needs to >go, but it sounds like the starter might still be in the way. Is it the >setup shown at http://www.greatplainsas.com/reardr.jpeg ? I thought GPASC >was going to put that starter at the bottom. I guess it won't fit that way? > >There's also an annualar ring inlet setup that you could probably use, if >you don't mind building a whole different cowling. The annualar ring is >supposed to be a pretty effiicient setup. It's shown in one of Bengelis's >books, and isn't as difficult as it appears. I saw one at Oshkosh last year >that made it look simple. > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Heath" >To: "kr net" >Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 6:38 PM >Subject: RE: KR> Cowl Inlets > > >> Jim, >> >> The only thing that I can tell you about this is that you do want to ramp >> the air up over most of the front cylinders. The idea is to have the air >> turbulent and going down between and around the cylinders. If you allow >the >> air to ram into the front cylinders, they will cool too much with respect >to >> the rear ones. >> >> Daniel R. Heath >> >> See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org >> >> See our EAA Chapter 242at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JIM VANCE [mailto:VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM] >> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:31 AM >> To: kr net >> Subject: KR> Cowl Inlets >> >> >> I'm starting to ponder what the shape of my cowling will be. I have a VW >> engine with a rear drive, and the starter sits right in the way of the >right >> inlet. I can make a good expansion ramp on the right side, but I don't >know >> how to handle the starter problem. Should I make the right opening larger >> than the left? Would the expansion ramp work okay with the starter in the >> middle of the air stream? >> >> I can raise the openings near the top of the cowling, but the starter >would >> still be in the way. >> >> I would really like any experiences or opinions on this. >> >> Jim Vance >> Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com >> >> --- >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:52:55 -0400 To: "Mark Langford" , "kr net" , "Robert X. Cringely" From: "TONY SOLDANO" Subject: Re: KR>sonex gear Message-ID: <000a01c22ae1$8ec9e740$a2533b41@compaq> hey guys will the sonex gear work on a kr2? I met a guy here in florida that crashed his sonex and the wife wants it gone,very cheep!the plane has a vw conversion that had a prop strike during the crash but he has a new crank and lots of extras. tony ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 20:49:11 -0700 To: "TONY SOLDANO" , "Mark Langford" , "kr net" From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR>sonex gear Message-Id: Interesting question. The Sonex gear is a Wittman type like on the Tailwind and all RVs except the RV-8. This means it is a rod (titanium, in this case!) that fits in sockets welded to the engine mount. Provided the mount can be made to fit your firewall (or your firewall made to fit the mount) and the wheels end up in the correct position, I say go for it. The gear is strong, cleverly designed, and extremely light, yet the Sonex and KR gross weights are close to the same. Now how do you make sure those wheels are in the right place? This is exactly what I recently asked Ladizlao Pazmany, designer of the PL-1, -2, and -4 (as well the the Convair B-58 Hustler) and author of the definitive book on landing gear design. Sad to say I kept that book on my nightstand fcor years and read it over and over trying to get a good sense of landing gear design. Like most Pazmany designs, the book is too complicated, but one thing it said really stood out for me: "Most tricycle gear designs should put 25 percent of the weight on the nose gear." For get the math, now THERE'S a rule of thumb I could use when I switched my Glasair to tricycle gear. Most Glasair FTs have bad gear geometry and you can't hold the nose off afterl anding. I installed the gear in the only place it could go (too far aft) loaded it up, put it on scales, then adjusted some fittings like those used to shift forward the main wheels on a Cessna 170 until 25 percent of the weight was on the nose gear. As a result, my plane lands much sweeter than the norm. What this has to do with a Sonex gear is that I recently asked Pazmany if there was a similar rule of thumb for taildraggers. There is: put eight percent of the weight on the tail. Bob At 10:52 PM -0400 7/13/02, TONY SOLDANO wrote: >hey guys will the sonex gear work on a kr2? I met a guy here in florida >that crashed his sonex and the wife wants it gone,very cheep!the plane has a >vw conversion that had a prop strike during the crash but he has a new crank >and lots of extras. > > tony -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 01:12:01 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: B Roe Subject: I'm sorry Message-id: <000d01c22af4$fc958780$24d02c44@computer> I would like to apologize to everyone for my inappropriate response to Matt Dralle last week. I have been asked what I was thinking when I sent that response and there lies the heart of the problem...I wasn't thinking. I acted on an immature impulse and subjected all of you to the result of that impulse. I am sorry, Bob Roe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:01:21 +1000 To: "KR Net Listings" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: Fwd: KR> Canopy...Rear Tilt Message-ID: <003501c22b15$06d316c0$9497dccb@Matheson> Frank Have a look at the site list below, It is an Australian NEW air craft, it has the type of Rear tilt canopy you discussed www.tomair.com.au Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: 12 July 2002 23:38 Subject: Re: Fwd: KR> Canopy...Rear Tilt > Another option that I haven't seen mentioned is the > fixed-windshield with four-point, REAR-swinging > canopy. A canopy on four rods swinging up and over the > turtle deck. This would not be as easy to work out as > the front swinging one, but would not catch the air, > like a rear TILT canopy would nor be in the way like > the front-swinging canopy. > AND, it would have that Fighter-Jock look. > BUT, it would be in the way getting in and out. > VERY possibly could fly with it open (not necessarily > on purpose). > Just a few thoughts. > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:08:43 -0700 To: From: "John Bouyea" Subject: Update: Archives accessability Message-ID: <006601c22b37$94e7f3a0$1a00a8c0@bou5100> ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C22AFC.E843FC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may be experiencing problems accessing my archives and project web = server. The name address change for www.bouyea.net didn't go very = smoothly. I am still waiting for the corrected changes to replicate = throughout the Internet. =20 The server IS still available, it is just "hard to find." You can = access the server directly via the http://66.93.38.235 pointer. =20 I do apologize for the problems and will let you all know when it = appears to be resolved. John Bouyea KR2 - N5391M/ in rebuild KR2 - on the gear KR2S - boat stage http://www.bouyea.net john@bouyea.net ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C22AFC.E843FC50-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************