From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 18 Jul 2002 11:41:33 -0000 Issue 476 Date: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:42 AM krnet Digest 18 Jul 2002 11:41:33 -0000 Issue 476 Topics (messages 11482 through 11511): Re: Wheels. Right place 11482 by: Bob Farmer 11484 by: Bob Farmer 11491 by: Bob Farmer 11494 by: Ronald Freiberger 11496 by: Bob Farmer Re: Urgent Assistance 11483 by: bstarrs more wheels 11485 by: Bob Farmer Dynon D-10 EFIS 11486 by: Rick Junkin 11488 by: bstarrs Re: KR1 age 11487 by: virgnvs.juno.com new subscriber 11489 by: Brian Kraut mixture control on Zenith carb 11490 by: Brian Kraut 11501 by: Serge F. VIDAL landing gear for sale 11492 by: Brian Kraut KR on Microsoft sim 11493 by: Brian Kraut 11499 by: Frank Ross Bill Clapp where are you? 11495 by: Philip Maley How to Change The Subject From Wheels to PDQ Software 11497 by: Frank Ross KR2 World Tour 11498 by: Philip Maley 11500 by: Frank Ross Reply 11502 by: Bob Farmer The Newsletter Plea 11503 by: Mark Jones 11505 by: Mark Jones 11506 by: Mark Jones 11507 by: ROBERT COOPER Hi 11504 by: alfabravo pilot KR for Flight Sim 2000 11508 by: Kerry Miller Virus Alert 11509 by: Frank Ross The New Newsletter & 27 year CD 11510 by: Rick Monte and the newsletter. 11511 by: Dana Overall Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:39:44 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "Bob Farmer" Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place Message-ID: <003501c22cce$3f6899a0$e55b62d8@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: > > > Bob, > > Could you say a few words about Airplane PDQ (Or other design products if > you have used any)? > > Thanks in advance > Ameet I do not have the latest version of PDQ so I'll only say that for my needs it works very well. The new version is probably better than what I have. If you are going to Airventure they will be at booth number #3119 in building C. My KR2 came with a modified landing gear that was too far forward (approx. 31 deg to aft CG limit). The work looked real good and could easily have been overlooked. I don't know that I would have caught that with out PDQ. I wonder how many ground loops are a result of such modifications and not lack of skill. Mine paid for it self with that one calculation. Read or in some way get the knowledge if you are going to make changes in an airplane design. PDQ is one of those ways. If you buy a project someone else started check it out from end to end. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net > > > > > "Bob Farmer" > > > cc: > Subject: KR> Wheels. Right place > 07/16/2002 07:37 > AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:59:24 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "Bob Farmer" Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place Message-ID: <006c01c22cd9$62a374c0$e55b62d8@oemcomputer> Sorry about that Bill! AirplanePDQ is airplane design software. Here is a link https://www.davincitechnologies.com/ Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "bstarrs" To: "Bob Farmer" Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > Bob, pardon my ignorance, but what is PDQ? Is it some sort of program? Bill > Starrs > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Farmer" > To: "krnet" > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:39 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:44:27 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "Bob Farmer" Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place Message-ID: <001f01c22d22$b9816c40$ba4562d8@oemcomputer> > Ron wrote. PDQ Software would be a good subject for this communiqué. I would like to know what resources others have used and what comments the users have. It would be helpful to have a common subject so a good database could be built. What do others think of this. Thanks to Ron for kicking the ball into play. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Freiberger" To: "Bob Farmer" Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: RE: KR> Wheels. Right place > > ron.martha@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Farmer [mailto:rfarmer@naxs.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:59 AM > To: krnet > Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > > ...................AirplanePDQ is airplane design software. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:53:02 -0400 To: "KRNET" , "Bob Farmer" From: "Ronald Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> Wheels. Right place Message-ID: I think you missed the point, although maybe on purpose. My point was that the SUBJECT ought to have been "PDQ software, NOT Wheels, right place. From Ron Freiberger ron.martha@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Farmer [mailto:rfarmer@naxs.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:44 PM To: krnet Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > Ron wrote. PDQ Software would be a good subject for this communiqué. I would like to know what resources others have used and what comments the users have. It would be helpful to have a common subject so a good database could be built. What do others think of this. Thanks to Ron for kicking the ball into play. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Freiberger" To: "Bob Farmer" Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: RE: KR> Wheels. Right place > > ron.martha@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Farmer [mailto:rfarmer@naxs.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:59 AM > To: krnet > Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > > ...................AirplanePDQ is airplane design software. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:49:44 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "Bob Farmer" Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place Message-ID: <003b01c22d2b$da38e2c0$ba4562d8@oemcomputer> Ron, great idea. All I intended to suggest was expanding the subject to include any design reference mat. This would keep E-Mails on all such ref. mat. related in a data base. Maybe there should be a standard of such SUBJECT topics just for data base purposes. An example of this could be "Wheels Right Place" & "Landing Gear Location" could mean the same thing but might not respond to the same search query. Anyone have any ideas on compiling such a list or where to keep it? Thanks again to Ron. I think this might be worth some effort. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronald Freiberger" > To: "KRNET" ; "Bob Farmer" > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:53 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Wheels. Right place > > > > I think you missed the point, although maybe on purpose. My point was > that > > the SUBJECT ought to have been "PDQ software, NOT Wheels, right place. > > > > From Ron Freiberger > > ron.martha@mindspring.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob Farmer [mailto:rfarmer@naxs.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:44 PM > > To: krnet > > Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > > > > > Ron wrote. PDQ Software would be a good subject for this communiqué. > > > > I would like to know what resources others have used and what comments the > > users have. It would be helpful to have a common subject so a good > database > > could be built. What do others think of this. Thanks to Ron for kicking > the > > ball into play. > > > > Bob Farmer > > rfarmer@naxs.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ronald Freiberger" > > To: "Bob Farmer" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:06 AM > > Subject: RE: KR> Wheels. Right place > > > > > > > > ron.martha@mindspring.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bob Farmer [mailto:rfarmer@naxs.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:59 AM > > > To: krnet > > > Subject: Re: KR> Wheels. Right place > > > > > > ...................AirplanePDQ is airplane design software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:03:21 -0700 To: From: "bstarrs" Subject: Fw: KR> Fw: Fw: Urgent Assistance Message-ID: <00a201c22cd9$ed9cd940$9200a8c0@bstarrs> ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C22C9F.407496C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles, The reason I forwarded this information is that SCAM Artists = have targeted our KR listing from time to time and the more we know the = better we can protect ourselves, for instance I did not know that the = Secret Service was the branch of law inforcement that we should report = these activities to. Yes I would like to see what you have collected . = If you can send them to me off net I would appreciate it. Bill Starrs ----- Original Message -----=20 From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com=20 To: bstarrs@cybertrails.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:46 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fw: Fw: Urgent Assistance In a message dated 7/15/02 7:43:51 PM Central Daylight Time, = bstarrs@cybertrails.com writes:=20 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov=20 i have recieved many of these requests for me to get rich quick, i have = turned a few of them over to the FBI in texarkana, wasnt really sure if = they were interested or not. i think i have some printed that i had = recieved in the past if you would like to take a look. =20 charles robison atlanta, texas=20 ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C22C9F.407496C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:19:05 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: more wheels Message-ID: <007501c22cdc$2203d920$e55b62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C22CBA.987D8FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are 2 reports from Airplane PDQ software for the trike crowd. The = first one shows the main gear with too much weight and the second with = too little.=20 1. The main gear are carrying too much of the aircraft weight. Lack of = traction on nose gear may reduce steering effectiveness. The main gear = weight fraction should be less than 92%. 2. The nose gear is carrying too much of the aircraft weight. Rotation = may be difficult at takeoff. The main gear weight fraction should be at = least 85%. Looks like 85-91% on the main gear to me and this should cover all = loading conditions. Sooooo....loading an airplane outside the design = limits might effect ground handling also. Hope these figures help = someone make good decisions on their gear. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C22CBA.987D8FA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:53:47 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Rick Junkin" Subject: Dynon D-10 EFIS Message-ID: Hello all, its been a long time since I've posted. I just got turned on to something for my KR that really has me excited. My apologies if this has already been discussed. If you haven't seen this unit, its definitely worth a look. The D-10 EFIS displays attitude, altitude, airspeed, turn and slip, AOA, G, time, and a few other things that I've forgotten already. Its all solid state, its designed to mount in a standard 3 1/8 inch instrument hole, and the display format is very similar to third generation fighter head-up displays. Its not a stand-alone for IFR, but for our VFR KRs, its a great unit. The amazing part is the price -- ~$2300, including the pitot static probe and backup battery. A little pricey, but considering the capabilities and the cost of the instruments it replaces, not a bad deal at all. And it weighs less than 2 pounds! I just talked to the folks at Dynon, and they expect to have their production units ready to go in late summer or fall of this year. They'll be at OSH, hangar D booth 4037. I'm going to have one of these, so my electric turn and bank and vacuum AH and DG, along with the venturi system, will be for sale when I get the EFIS. Here's the web page: http://www.dynondevelopment.com Cheers, Rick Junkin rick.junkin@hotmail.com St. Charles MO _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:16:46 -0700 To: From: "bstarrs" Subject: Fw: KR> Dynon D-10 EFIS Message-ID: <00a101c22d05$b611c720$9200a8c0@bstarrs> Sounds great but that is more then one third the price of my entire plane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Junkin" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: KR> Dynon D-10 EFIS > Hello all, its been a long time since I've posted. I just got turned on to > something for my KR that really has me excited. > > My apologies if this has already been discussed. If you haven't seen this > unit, its definitely worth a look. The D-10 EFIS displays attitude, > altitude, airspeed, turn and slip, AOA, G, time, and a few other things that > I've forgotten already. Its all solid state, its designed to mount in a > standard 3 1/8 inch instrument hole, and the display format is very similar > to third generation fighter head-up displays. Its not a stand-alone for IFR, > but for our VFR KRs, its a great unit. The amazing part is the price -- > ~$2300, including the pitot static probe and backup battery. A little > pricey, but considering the capabilities and the cost of the instruments it > replaces, not a bad deal at all. And it weighs less than 2 pounds! > > I just talked to the folks at Dynon, and they expect to have their > production units ready to go in late summer or fall of this year. They'll be > at OSH, hangar D booth 4037. I'm going to have one of these, so my electric > turn and bank and vacuum AH and DG, along with the venturi system, will be > for sale when I get the EFIS. > > Here's the web page: http://www.dynondevelopment.com > > Cheers, > Rick Junkin > rick.junkin@hotmail.com > St. Charles MO > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:33:11 -0400 To: cellcool@lando.co.za From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG Subject: Re: KR> KR1 age Message-ID: <20020716.133756.-404419.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Get the plans if you do not have them, it will be money well spent and these questions may be answered, Virg On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:50:32 +0200 "Cellcool" writes: > Hi all, > I need some assurance on a KR1 project. > > I have purchased a semi-complete KR1 that was started in 1982. > The fuselage, tail, control wires, etc. are all finished, only the > cosmetic finishing on the fuselage, the engine mountings and the > outer wings are still to be done. > The outer wings were started and all the foam has been glued in and > shaped, the spars are coated with what seems to be resin to seal > them but the WAF's were mounted wrongly as the width of the WAF > stubs on both sides are exactly the same so the wing cannot be > mounted, I assume the wing side WAF stubs fit on the outside of the > of the inner wing WAF stubs. > My main worry is that the timber used in the wing spar has dried out > to the extent that it has become brittle, is this possible? It is > sealed completely with the epoxy, even the ends. > I have the plans but they seem so incomplete that a lot of guesswork > seems to be required > > Thanks > > John Little > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:04:41 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: new subscriber Message-ID: Hello all. I am a new subscriber and relatively new KR owner. I bought N93PC originally built by Edward Baker in 1991 and sold through several owners before it finally got to me. I live in Jacksonville, FL and wanted to know what other owners or builders are in my area. I have not flown the plane yet and have been spending the last few months making some modifications that I thought it needed before I wanted to put my but in it off the ground including putting on Diehl fixed gear and Great Plains hydraulic brakes, changing the Mikuni carb to a Zenith, joining the 4 gallon header tank to the 10 gallon header tank and removing all the plumbing and transfer pump between them(think it was originally there for more head pressure for a Posa carb), adding a capacitive fuel sender and Westach gauge, changing the electric servo trim to a cable, adding nav and strobe lights, new instrument panel and some more instruments, adding a 5 gallon wing tank where the retract wheel wells were, and adding a Force One prop hub and bearing and magnafluxing the crank since I heard one of the previous owners had a prop strike. I should be ready to fly in about a month. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:12:53 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: mixture control on Zenith carb Message-ID: I have replaced a Mikuni carb with a Zenith 1821 and would like some advice on the best way to do the mixture control. I have a push-pull type vernier mixture knob and the Zenith has a rotating needle valve. I originally expected that I would put an arm on the needle valve and get a quarter turn or so, but I checked with Great Plains and they tell me that I really need about three turns for mixture control. The most obvious way to do this is to connect the cable to a gear rack and have it turn a pinion gear, but this brings thoughts of added friction and a stripped gear if the mixture knob is slammed forward, especially given the small diameter gear needed to get three turns on a four inch mixture knob travel. I also need something as low profile as possible to keep from having to put a big bump on the bottom of my cowl. How are other people doing this? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:33:57 +0200 To: , From: "Serge F. VIDAL" Subject: Re: KR> mixture control on Zenith carb Message-ID: <005a01c22d65$daeff160$65c521c4@co.za> Brian, I modified my Zenith carb by installing a tachometer type cable to drive the mixture/needle adjustment screw. I have a knob in the cockpit, that I can turn to adjust the mixture.It is easily done: just drill a hole the diameter of the cable cap end along the screw axis, then drill another hole across both the screw and the cap end to fit a pin the I don't agree with Great Plains: your maximum adjustment will be maybe one turn each side. A few warnings: - It is difficult to make such a settting, because the screw has got a lot of friction. Make a large knob! - You will not have a way to spot the "Neutral" position". - Mixture on the Zenith varies according to the throttle opening, and therefore, the RPM. Your setting will not be the same for take-off and cruise. Set during the cruise only, and dont't forget to adjusrt back for landing. Hope this helps. Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa I now have a ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:12 AM Subject: KR> mixture control on Zenith carb > > > I have replaced a Mikuni carb with a Zenith 1821 and would like some advice on > the best way to do the mixture control. I have a push-pull type vernier > mixture knob and the Zenith has a rotating needle valve. I originally > expected that I would put an arm on the needle valve and get a quarter turn or > so, but I checked with Great Plains and they tell me that I really need about > three turns for mixture control. > > The most obvious way to do this is to connect the cable to a gear rack and > have it turn a pinion gear, but this brings thoughts of added friction and a > stripped gear if the mixture knob is slammed forward, especially given the > small diameter gear needed to get three turns on a four inch mixture knob > travel. I also need something as low profile as possible to keep from having > to put a big bump on the bottom of my cowl. How are other people doing this? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:31:35 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: landing gear for sale Message-ID: Anyone interrested in buying retractable gear for a KR2? I have taken mine off and installed fixed gear. Wheels not included, but I do have mechanical brakes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 17:36:49 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: KR on Microsoft sim Message-ID: Can anyone recommend a KR2 file for Microsoft Flight Simulator? I realize that not all KRs fly the same, but I am looking for one that reacts as realistically as possible to the "average" KR. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:44:02 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: KR on Microsoft sim Message-ID: <20020717024402.19269.qmail@web21508.mail.yahoo.com> Brian, I know there are some who will give you a good recommendation on this (we've gone over it before), but I HATE Microsoft Flight Simulator! Just had to get that off my chest. It is about as much like flying as smashing your fingers with a sledge hammer is like having sex. It is the stupidest most frustrating excuse for a flying program I've ever seen. But, that's just my opinion. Oh, I haven't flown a KR, but I think the Extra 300 will come pretty close. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX --- Brian Kraut wrote: > Can anyone recommend a KR2 file for Microsoft Flight > Simulator? I realize > that not all KRs fly the same, but I am looking for > one that reacts as > realistically as possible to the "average" KR. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:13:07 +0800 To: "krnet" From: "Philip Maley" Subject: Bill Clapp where are you? Message-ID: Hi all Does anybody know what has happened to Bill Clapp (clappw@bellsouth.net)? You might remember back in May he was buying a partly-built KR2 and wanted to change the tricycle gear for a tailwheel setup. Shortly afterwards he offered to sell the tri-gear components. I emailed Bill and eventually agreed to buy the items and sent my hard-earned money over to him. He told me in great detail how much the package weighed and how the UPS guys insisted he beef up the strength of the package. He even told me he had sent it and would let me have the UPS tracking number. Problem is, after 4 weeks of me asking for that tracking number he has been unable or unwilling to let me have it. I've been in contact with UPS and they have no record of the shipment. I phoned Bill from Australia a week or so ago and he sounded very friendly and told me he would try to get the tracking number to me. Follow-up email messages remain unanswered. I tried calling him again today and discovered to my horror that his telephone number has been disconnected. Call me a fool, but I am down close to AUD1,000 including the USD250 for freight that I sent to Bill. The UPS people are still trying to help but without any evidence that the package was delivered to them I can't expect much. My next step is probably to get the police and FBI involved because everything is pointing to a case of wire fraud. (Not sure how to do that yet.) I don't expect any help from the group but just take this as a warning before you pour your own money down the drain. Regards to all Phil Maley Perth Australia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:38:08 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: How to Change The Subject From Wheels to PDQ Software Message-ID: <20020717023808.35433.qmail@web21501.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, I think by now Ron must be off in a corner somewhere crying inconsolably. What he meant was, when you change from talking about one subject, like "Wheels", to another subject, like "PDQ Software", take a moment before hitting "REPLY" to change what is written in the box above right after "Subject" so we'll know your post is no longer about "Wheels", but has switched to a new subject, "PDQ Software". I know a lot of us are still getting used to these new-fangled contraptions, but, if you're going to be flying a KR, you can get used to using a computer. Hope this helps. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX > > > I think you missed the point, although maybe on > purpose. My point was > > that > > > the SUBJECT ought to have been "PDQ software, > NOT Wheels, right place. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:42:23 +0800 To: "KRnet" From: "Philip Maley" Subject: KR2 World Tour Message-ID: Hi all A couple from UK are flying around the world in a KR2. See their web site at http://fly.to/worldtour. They are presently stuck in Indonesia looking for a life raft for their next leg to Darwin. Phil Maley Perth Australia mailto:phil@wotech.com.au http://www.wotech.net/vk6ad/ Phone: +61 417 954 187 Fax: +61 8 9315 3055 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:45:32 -0700 (PDT) To: phil@wotech.com.au, KRnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> KR2 World Tour Message-ID: <20020717024532.98876.qmail@web21505.mail.yahoo.com> Why, the KR should float fine. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX --- Philip Maley wrote: > They are presently stuck in Indonesia looking for a > life raft for > their next leg to Darwin. > > Phil Maley > Perth Australia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:45:08 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: Reply Message-ID: <001e01c22d76$a40cfa60$775d62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22D55.1C4A59E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Ron I was in the wrong gear. Got it now Bob Farmer ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22D55.1C4A59E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 06:51:51 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: The Newsletter Plea Message-ID: <001e01c22d88$57d6eae0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22D5E.6EBDBF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apparently my plea to all of you to renew your subscription with our new = Editor was not responded to very well. There have only been 11 people = send Subscription renewals to Larry Capps, Editor of the new and = improved KR Newsletter. There are great things happening with the KR, = how will you keep informed. Did you know there is a couple from the UK = flying around the world in a KR-2. What a story for the Newsletter. = Where else can you get such valued info as what is put in print in the = Newsletter. Sure you say right here on the Net. Well, that is a good = source for sure, but do you keep everything which is on the net. I have = every issue of the Newsletter from day one and to me it is like a Bible. = I can not tell you how many times I have referenced those Newsletters = and have found what I needed. So send in your subscription money now to = keep the Newsetter alive. All of you with outstanding subscriptions due = to you.....THIS MEANS YOU....give up a couple six packs of beer, some = smokes and a couple of fast food meals and send in your $24. This will = benefit two great causes. Your health and keeping the Newsletter alive. = Once again, I am making a plea...Do not let the Newsletter die. The = address is as follows: Larry Capps, Editor KR Newsletter 10S485 Book Road =20 Naperville, IL 60564 THANK YOU Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C22D5E.6EBDBF60-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:48:36 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Fw: KR> The Newsletter Plea Message-ID: <000b01c22de4$16158e20$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C22DBA.2CF4C180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, My check for the newsletter and the CD went in the mail Monday. He = should have it by now. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Jones=20 To: KR-Net=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:51 AM Subject: KR> The Newsletter Plea Apparently my plea to all of you to renew your subscription with our = new Editor was not responded to very well. There have only been 11 = people send Subscription renewals to Larry Capps, Editor of the new and = improved KR Newsletter. There are great things happening with the KR, = how will you keep informed. Did you know there is a couple from the UK = flying around the world in a KR-2. What a story for the Newsletter. = Where else can you get such valued info as what is put in print in the = Newsletter. Sure you say right here on the Net. Well, that is a good = source for sure, but do you keep everything which is on the net. I have = every issue of the Newsletter from day one and to me it is like a Bible. = I can not tell you how many times I have referenced those Newsletters = and have found what I needed. So send in your subscription money now to = keep the Newsetter alive. All of you with outstanding subscriptions due = to you.....THIS MEANS YOU....give up a couple six packs of beer, some = smokes and a couple of fast food meals and send in your $24. This will = benefit two great causes. Your health and keeping the Newsletter alive. = Once again, I am making a plea...Do not let the Newsletter die. The = address is as follows: Larry Capps, Editor KR Newsletter 10S485 Book Road =20 Naperville, IL 60564 THANK YOU Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C22DBA.2CF4C180-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:56:24 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Fw: KR> The Newsletter Plea Message-ID: <003901c22de5$2d7072a0$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> I am forwarding these replies to me to the Net in hopes everyone will follow these guys....Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Brown" To: "Mark Jones" Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: Re: KR> The Newsletter Plea > I got back from vacation 7/15 after 2 weeks to > learn of this. Check for subscription and CD > went out yesterday PM. > > Tim > > > --- Mark Jones wrote: > > Apparently my plea to all of you to renew your > > subscription with our new Editor was not > > responded to very well. There have only been 11 > > people send Subscription renewals to Larry > > Capps, Editor of the new and improved KR > > Newsletter. There are great things happening > > with the KR, how will you keep informed. Did > > you know there is a couple from the UK flying > > around the world in a KR-2. What a story for > > the Newsletter. Where else can you get such > > valued info as what is put in print in the > > Newsletter. Sure you say right here on the Net. > > Well, that is a good source for sure, but do > > you keep everything which is on the net. I have > > every issue of the Newsletter from day one and > > to me it is like a Bible. I can not tell you > > how many times I have referenced those > > Newsletters and have found what I needed. So > > send in your subscription money now to keep the > > Newsetter alive. All of you with outstanding > > subscriptions due to you.....THIS MEANS > > YOU....give up a couple six packs of beer, some > > smokes and a couple of fast food meals and send > > in your $24. This will benefit two great > > causes. Your health and keeping the Newsletter > > alive. Once again, I am making a plea...Do not > > let the Newsletter die. The address is as > > follows: > > > > Larry Capps, Editor > > KR Newsletter > > 10S485 Book Road > > Naperville, IL 60564 > > > > THANK YOU > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:00:04 -0400 To: "Mark JONES" , "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> The Newsletter Plea Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C22DE5.B01322C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check for newsletter subscription in mail today (7/17/02). Jack Cooper ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C22DE5.B01322C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:42:42 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "alfabravo pilot" Subject: Hi Message-ID: I'm looking now for the plan and the drowing...I want to get and buy them because I have built agood background about KR2s....new or used nevermind.... could someone help me best regards AL-MARZOUQI NASSER _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:26:49 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kerry Miller Subject: KR for Flight Sim 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020717222649.007b0910@pop3.ticnet.com> I remember a while back some of you guys were working on a KR for Flight Sim 2000 or 2002, did anybody ever finish one? Curtis, my building partner, wants a copy of somebody has it. Drop me a note offline, I'll be out of town until this weekend - no, I'm not going to Oshkosh! Thanks, Kerry Miller ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:09:16 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Virus Alert Message-ID: <20020718050916.69300.qmail@web21504.mail.yahoo.com> I'm sorry to have to post this, but, I think Harold Woods has been hit with a computer virus. I opened an e-mail (NOT sent through krnet, but, since I recognized his name, thought it was safe) earlier this evening and it had a very strange message. Said something like "Ross (nobody calls me Ross) keep watering the plants, we'll be in late, Daren". I've spoken to Harold off-net and he wouldn't have sent me that. I don't know any Daren. Sent the message back by 'Reply' to Harold and asked if he sent it by mistake or something. No answer. But now I find another message from 'audreyandharoldwoods' with 137K (large message, no attachments, and the first one had no attachments) with the title "Telephone number". I did not open this one, but deleted it. If you get mail from Harold and Audrey Woods, and it is NOT a KRnet message, delete it until we hear from Harold. I ran the Klez virus tool from Symantec and it found nothing on my computer. Someone is still screwing with krnet users, though. Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 23:29:18 -0600 To: krnet From: Rick Subject: KR> The New Newsletter & 27 year CD Message-ID: <41ED2F1280124E4D8B88691C9A9B5FDE011B73@mail.binoids.com> My Check for Newsletter subscription and 27 Year CD are in the mail today. Hey Mr. Jones .... It's great you are such a tenacious fellow on this Newsletter issue. Also... Hey!! Come on... change the weekly picture on your site... I'm tired of seeing a red carburetor every week :) I subscribed to the older newsletter over 4 years ago and also purchased all available back issues but am missing about 30% mostly earlier years. I sit down and go through all the newsletters every 6 months. It's kind of funny... The first month when I got them they were all Greek to me. I mean back then..... What the hell was a WAF??? Now as I progress from stag to stag I pull out all the issues relevant to what I am doing as I do it. Of course I also print out Mark Langford's Web site KR construction sections (he has cost me $100.00+ in color ink jet cartridges "gladly")!!! Really as far as building and instructional information/assistance I use the RR manual for about 10% of what I do. The new searchable CD is going to save me a lot of time that can be transferred back into build time. Also being PC based I will be able to zoom in on those detailed pictures and use even more ink:) Take Care and Happy building. Rick Hubka http://www.hubka.com/kr_main.htm rick@hubka.com 65 Butler Crescent NW Calgary AB T2L 1K4 Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:40:31 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Monte and the newsletter. Message-ID: I've got to ask. Just how many subscriptions was Monte sending out at his end of the run? It sounds to me like Monte pocketed the unamortized subscription money without forwarding the unrealized portion of outstanding subscriptions. Isn't he in TX? No matter, I will guarantee each and every state has provisions that address this type of action. A simple call to the state attorney general, of the appropriate state, will bring about action through their consumer protection branch. It may not seem like much money to each individual, but if this is what has occurred there would be a failure to make required disposition on Monte's part. If he has already legally relinquished the rights to publication, then his failure to perform would be basis for a demand of adherence. In the State of Kentucky, it would be a criminal offence of theft by failure to make required disposition if he pocketed the unrealized portion of subcription monies. It just may be enough $ to keep this thing going and simply is the required performance on the part of the relinquisher. Just thinking out loud as if a client had walked into my office after buying such an ongoing entity. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************