From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 17 Aug 2002 16:01:30 -0000 Issue 500 Date: Saturday, August 17, 2002 9:02 AM krnet Digest 17 Aug 2002 16:01:30 -0000 Issue 500 Topics (messages 12150 through 12162): fiberglass 12150 by: Steve Re: Time to spruce dust once again..... 12151 by: Mike Mims 12153 by: David Mullins 12159 by: Geroge Vandor All moving Rudder/Stabilizer 12152 by: Ronald Freiberger KR2 FOR SALE 12154 by: Larry 12162 by: Larry It's Friday isn't it?? 12155 by: Dana Overall Re: cookout 12156 by: terry marion ks Re: 2002 KR Gathering Red Oak, IA 12157 by: David Mullins 12158 by: David Mullins friday stuff 12160 by: Allan D Olcott Elt america king 12161 by: Darren Pond Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:23:25 -0500 To: From: "Steve" Subject: fiberglass Message-ID: <002701c24499$9c2746e0$291e6344@om.cox.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C2446F.B2F5B160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi KR netters I haven't been off the list for over six month. I've been working only = on my engine (corvair big boy). I can proudly say I will finish my = banana boat on Saturday. Now my question, I am going to order my fiberglass. I found some 6oz = biaxial cloth 50" wide. Can I use this? =20 The benefits are 20% stronger uses less epoxy because it is not woven reduced number of seams easer to wet out Draw backs not commonly used made for boats, no FAA strand for inspection Any help would be apreciated. Steve Lemke Omaha, NE ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C2446F.B2F5B160-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:33:09 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> Time to spruce dust once again..... Message-ID: <20020815213309.58771.qmail@web10808.mail.yahoo.com> Should have been "Time to MAKE spruce dust once again".... :o) All that being said I am in the market for some of the older KR2 (not KR2S) stuff. Turtledecks, canopies, etc. If anyone finds a great deal on this stuff let me know. ;o) Mike "trying to build a parts pile" Mims __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:52:42 -0400 From: David Mullins CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Time to spruce dust once again..... Message-ID: <3D5C7709.ACC1B959@attbi.com> Mike, Does this mean you will finally use that 1 set of retract gear that has been passed around to almost every KR Builder? Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire http://n323xl.iwarp.com Mike Mims wrote: > Well KR netters the time has finally arrived for me to > start gathering parts and pieces for my next attempt > at building a homebuilt aircraft. I have had tons of > time to think about this and as time has gone by my > life is back to a place where I can start collecting > parts. I would imagine that the construction process > will begin after Christmas. Once again I am choosing > the KR for its bang for buck value. Some of you will > be surprised that this project will be a complete 180 > turn from the philosophy that was used to build the > KR290 SkyPig. As a matter of fact, you could almost go > as far as to say this will be more of a KR2 Classic > (with minor changes). Here is the plan for the most > part…… > > 1) VW power (IE 2180 old school powerplant) > 2) KR2 plans built but fuselage just slightly longer > (not wider) and horizontal stab slightly larger > 3) CG range moved slightly forward of what is called > out in the plans by mounting engine further FWD > 4) DD wing skins if still available, if not then the > latest and greatest wing from the Langford files > 5) May use old school KR2 bubble with KR2 T-Deck parts > 6) May even use RR retracts (dare to be old school) > :o) > > And of course it will include all the cool and nifty > mods such as the elevator hinge bearings used by the > great Dr D. Some of you may be scratching your head > and saying “What the hell??” but in my opinion > building the plane this way is the fastest way to get > me in the air for the least amount of money. Hey if > money was not an issue I would be building a RV right? > Also I don’t really need all that cockpit room > anymore as I will either be flying alone or with my > girlfriend/fiancée/wife who is all of 4’10” and 98lbs. > And yes with the VW it may only cruise at 125 mph but > you know what? That’s 125 mph faster than the plane I > currently own. :D > > Cheers…. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:30:06 -0500 To: "Mike Mims" , From: "Geroge Vandor" Subject: Re: KR> Time to spruce dust once again..... Message-ID: <001701c2457c$db602e10$ac7afea9@yourib3g4dzt9h> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mims" To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: KR> Time to spruce dust once again..... Well KR netters the time has finally arrived for me to start gathering parts and pieces for my next attempt at building a homebuilt aircraft. I have had tons of time to think about this and as time has gone by my life is back to a place where I can start collecting parts. I would imagine that the construction process will begin after Christmas. Once again I am choosing the KR for its bang for buck value. Some of you will be surprised that this project will be a complete 180 turn from the philosophy that was used to build the KR290 SkyPig. As a matter of fact, you could almost go as far as to say this will be more of a KR2 Classic (with minor changes). Here is the plan for the most part.. 1) VW power (IE 2180 old school powerplant) 2) KR2 plans built but fuselage just slightly longer (not wider) and horizontal stab slightly larger 3) CG range moved slightly forward of what is called out in the plans by mounting engine further FWD 4) DD wing skins if still available, if not then the latest and greatest wing from the Langford files 5) May use old school KR2 bubble with KR2 T-Deck parts 6) May even use RR retracts (dare to be old school) :o) And of course it will include all the cool and nifty mods such as the elevator hinge bearings used by the great Dr D. Some of you may be scratching your head and saying "What the hell??" but in my opinion building the plane this way is the fastest way to get me in the air for the least amount of money. Hey if money was not an issue I would be building a RV right? Also I don't really need all that cockpit room anymore as I will either be flying alone or with my girlfriend/fiancée/wife who is all of 4'10" and 98lbs. And yes with the VW it may only cruise at 125 mph but you know what? That's 125 mph faster than the plane I currently own. :D Cheers.. finally sombody saw the light! right on mike! according my guess if you go with the new air foil, you could more completely retract the RR landing gear in my area there are 4 or 5 kr2's were built all in the 7 to 800 pound empty weight. there are all a disaster waiting to happen. most of the builders either crack them up or parting them out and selling them. there was one kr1, with a row tax 532 CC engine. the airplane was close to design weight, in the first flight at 5000 feet it reached 175 MPH through air speed. the moral of the story we are not building Howard Hugh's spruce goose, so if we keep it light (sticking to the plans) we will have a delightful little airplane that we can enjoy and not an airport Tetriheadran. thanks indygeorge kr1 builder. with subaroo EA81 direct drive I am keeping it light. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:34:03 -0400 To: "KRNET" From: "Ronald Freiberger" Subject: All moving Rudder/Stabilizer Message-ID: I had a Jodel D-11 which I really liked. The Rudder/stabilizer was one piece, hinged off the fuselage. I've made an adjustable Horizontal stabilizer, and now I'm stuck for design ideas to get the vertical stabilizer past the front of the HS, which is continous, not notched like the plans. Besides, I'm tired of walking around the damn VS post that sticks up in the way of everything. Not having a fixed VS would simplify things a lot. The other alternative would be to make a much wider VS; kinda like a Stinson-KR. aka Stinkr? Stinkrson? Like all design changes from a good simple design, this creates several more issues to be resolved. Virg told me that's gonna happen. But, it's gotta end somewhere. My question for all you creative wizards is," Are there any design guidelines for the percentage of Stabilator ahead of the hinge line"? Ron Freiberger... mailto:ron.martha@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 01:39:42 -0500 To: From: "Larry" Subject: KR2 FOR SALE Message-ID: <002b01c244ef$b4c86660$29da28d8@l0c1i1> ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C244C5.CB2152C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, I have a really nice KR2 for sale, with a Revmaster VW engine, Dan Diehl = tri gear, plane has flown before. If seriously interested email me off line for details and I can email = you some pictures.=20 Asking price is $11,500.00 Larry Howell Near Dallas Texas laheze@ev1.net ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C244C5.CB2152C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 11:01:49 -0500 To: From: "Larry" Subject: KR2 FORSALE Message-ID: <003e01c24607$65b26260$f4e728d8@l0c1i1> ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C245DD.7C12EFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KR2 FORSALE--Has flown before, has Dan Diehl trigear, Revmaster Engine, = Revflo Carb, Dragonfly Canopy Q-Tip propeller, new wheels, tires, = brakes. Was a taildragger and is now trigear. If you are seriously = interested in a plane that can be flying again in one to two weeks work = then this is the one for you. This is one of the prettiest KR2s you will = ever see. Email me for pictures if you are serious. Asking Price is $ 11,500.00 a lot less than parts to build it. Larry Howell laheze@ev1.net ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C245DD.7C12EFE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:35:54 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: It's Friday isn't it?? Message-ID: Major day two days ago. I even "turned on" the landing light:-) Look ma no clecos!!! I kinda feel like Mark.......got a new baby in the house, it just doesn't need a diaper, course I did when I pounded the last rivet. http://rvflying.tripod.com/p8150157.jpg Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:55:31 -0700 To: "terry marion ks" , From: "terry marion ks" Subject: Re: KR>cookout Message-ID: <002101c24545$bc92ea40$65a060cc@r6t1n9> I,m haveing a BBQ sat .Aug. 17th at 6:00 pm free too all .I do this each year and like to get some of the kr builder togather . This is no big fly in but shoud get about 6 builder to come and I will have my kr2 hear and the other two i,m building . This is at marion ks (43k) and email me if you planing on coming. Terry chizek tlc@wwwebservice.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:16:59 -0400 To: lacapps@attbi.com From: David Mullins CC: "KR Builders (E-mail)" Subject: Re: KR> 2002 KR Gathering Red Oak, IA Message-ID: <3D5D257B.2FF1EEFC@attbi.com> > Netters, I have my reservations for the gathering confirmed. The Trailer is lined up to bring my bird, N323XL to the Gathering. I will be leaving Wednesday afternoon and driving strait through to Red Oak arriving sometime Thursday afternoon or evening. My canopy install should be complete with controls and wiring finished. And the stub wings with 1 layer of glass on them waiting for the outer wings to be glassed. I have neglected my website for the past couple of months, but that will change soon. I am taking my camera out to the airport to get the pictures of what I have done lately. Dave Mullins Nashua New Hampshire http://n323xl.iwarp.com > > The Red Oak Municipal Airport (RDK) is located 1/2 mile west of town > 1674 200th Street Red Oak, IA 51566 > phone is (712) 623-6523 > > 41 00.63N 95 15.59W > U122.8 > > Motel Reservations: > The Red Coach Inn (712) 623-4864 > Super 8 Motel (712) 623-6919 > 1 1/2 miles from the airport. > > Mike Garbez - 2002 KR Gathering Host > (712) 778-2449 please call after 5:30 p.m. > central time weekdays or weekends > > Any questions e-mail at mailto:msgtlg@netins.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:18:27 -0400 To: lacapps@attbi.com From: David Mullins CC: "KR Builders (E-mail)" Subject: Re: KR> 2002 KR Gathering Red Oak, IA Message-ID: <3D5D25D2.CDD065F1@attbi.com> > Netters, I have my reservations for the Gathering confirmed at the Red Coach Inn. The Trailer is lined up to bring my bird, N323XL to the Gathering. I will be leaving Wednesday afternoon and driving strait through to Red Oak arriving sometime Thursday afternoon or evening. My canopy install should be complete with controls and wiring finished. And the stub wings with 1 layer of glass on them waiting for the outer wings to be glassed. I have neglected my website for the past couple of months, but that will change soon. I am taking my camera out to the airport to get the pictures of what I have done lately. Dave Mullins Nashua New Hampshire http://n323xl.iwarp.com > > The Red Oak Municipal Airport (RDK) is located 1/2 mile west of town > 1674 200th Street Red Oak, IA 51566 > phone is (712) 623-6523 > > 41 00.63N 95 15.59W > U122.8 > > Motel Reservations: > The Red Coach Inn (712) 623-4864 > Super 8 Motel (712) 623-6919 > 1 1/2 miles from the airport. > > Mike Garbez - 2002 KR Gathering Host > (712) 778-2449 please call after 5:30 p.m. > central time weekdays or weekends > > Any questions e-mail at mailto:msgtlg@netins.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 01:05:20 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Allan D Olcott" Subject: friday stuff Message-ID: Any body get the new sporty's catalog check out the garmin gpsmap 196 turns into panel cool piece of electrics _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 10:22:13 -0700 To: "krnet" From: "Darren Pond" Subject: Elt america king Message-ID: <000801c24612$a0e96080$8b969d18@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C245D7.F425D340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI ALL What have other KR builder done with there ELT antenna? This thing is = 18" long and is supposed to be mounted vertically + -20 deg. My tail cone is pretty much inaccessible thanks to the original builder. = Darren Pond Cambridge Ontario Canada CYKF Taylor Mono plane C-FVML waiting on Transport Canada=20 PondHopper 2.2 turbo (KR2S Heavy) Early building stages pond27@rogers.com 519-651-2522 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C245D7.F425D340-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************