From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 11 Oct 2002 23:24:56 -0000 Issue 530 Date: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:26 PM krnet Digest 11 Oct 2002 23:24:56 -0000 Issue 530 Topics (messages 12759 through 12783): Re: More Virus Crap 12759 by: Bob Farmer 12762 by: gleone Progress 12760 by: Bob Lee 12767 by: Cesar Copperstate 12761 by: Linda Bennett Anti-virus 12763 by: Gary W. Haun About Al Freisen's Plane 12764 by: Mark Jones skinning your boat 12765 by: Mark Langford KRnet fund raising opportunity 12766 by: Mark Langford 12769 by: Jerry L. Mahurin Smoking in KR's 12768 by: Mr. Bryce Guenther 12772 by: Daniel Heath 12781 by: CHOCTAWCWR.aol.com 12783 by: AeroPax.aol.com Re: Hosting KRNet with a databae option 12770 by: Rick Re: KRnet site opportunity 12771 by: Daniel Heath 12773 by: Mark Langford kr2 12774 by: Berry Coppage Dimple Tape 12775 by: Ricky Farley 12778 by: Ed Janssen Re: Platinum plugs in 2180? 12776 by: GARYKR2.cs.com LANDING GEAR QUESTION 12777 by: TIM BOYER 12780 by: larry flesner AOL folks? 12779 by: Mark Langford KR2 For Sale 12782 by: David Busby Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 16:32:29 -0400 To: "krnet" From: "Bob Farmer" Subject: Re: KR> More Virus Crap Message-ID: <003501c26fd2$fda8ab20$7b5d62d8@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Mims" To: > Buy antivirus, its cheap!! Right on! While I was reading this a flag popped up at the lower right of my screen saying that Norton had just automatically updated my virus definitions. As my granddaughter would say COOL. Just get it and forget it. It's worth it just for the peace of mind. Bob Farmer rfarmer@naxs.net Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:44 PM Subject: Re: KR> More Virus Crap > > --- Frank Ross wrote: > > Do not open e-mails from Frank Ross. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 16:42:33 -0500 To: Mike Mims From: gleone CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> More Virus Crap Message-ID: <3DA4A2C9.A7F0F34C@tritel.net> --------------8E0EAFBF4338E201F7CCA621 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FA0DF27E42F61AE0ED867A27" --------------FA0DF27E42F61AE0ED867A27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone is interested, since Saturday, my ISP has intercepted 15 (that is NOT a typo!) virus infected messages. There is a lot to be said for anti virus software. Though your ISP may catch them, remember it won't do anything if you have a Yahoo or Hotmail or Excite or whatever email account. For that, you need your anti virus software and firewall. If anyone should actually catch the perpetrator(s) who first send out these things, remember, there are approximately 2.5 million acres of public land, mostly roadless, where I would be more than happy to dispose of the garbage. Gene in Wyoming Mike Mims wrote: > --- Frank Ross wrote: > > Do not open e-mails from Frank Ross. > > You guys need to understand that some of these viruses > have the ability to spoof the From: field. That means > that the virus was not sent by the person in the From: > field but his name was inserted there when it left the > infected machine. > > Example, I get infected, the virus propagates itself > to everyone (or the first 50) people in my address > book and the From: field was filled with someone that > was also in my address book. Making the virus that > much harder to track. > > Buy antivirus, its cheap!! > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files --------------FA0DF27E42F61AE0ED867A27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone is interested, since Saturday, my ISP has intercepted 15 (that is NOT a typo!) virus infected messages.  There is a lot to be said for anti virus software.  Though your ISP may catch them, remember it won't do anything if you have a Yahoo or Hotmail or Excite or whatever email account.  For that, you need your anti virus software and firewall.  If anyone should actually catch the perpetrator(s) who first send out these things, remember, there are approximately 2.5 million acres of public land, mostly roadless, where I would be more than happy to dispose of the garbage.  Gene in Wyoming

Mike Mims wrote:

--- Frank Ross <alamokr2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do not open e-mails from Frank Ross.

You guys need to understand that some of these viruses
have the ability to spoof the From: field. That means
that the virus was not sent by the person in the From:
field but his name was inserted there when it left the
infected machine.

Example, I get infected, the virus propagates itself
to everyone (or the first 50) people in my address
book and the From: field was filled with someone that
was also in my address book. Making the virus that
much harder to track.

Buy antivirus, its cheap!!

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
http://faith.yahoo.com

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--------------FA0DF27E42F61AE0ED867A27-- --------------8E0EAFBF4338E201F7CCA621-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:25:30 -0500 To: "KRnet" From: "Bob Lee" Subject: Progress Message-ID: KRnet_heads, This is not a virus notification! Please delete if you only read KR related stuff on Fridays. I finished the oil cooler mounting bracket today. Not a great thing, but daily progress will get me flying soon. Take a look at http://flyboybob.com/web_pages/kr2/diary/pictures_of_the_week.htm to see my progress. Is anyone interested in a pool for the 2004 gathering? Anybody that thinks they can have their KR completed by then can buy a share in the rewards for say fifty bucks. Then the pilots that actually make it to the gathering in 2004 can divide up the pot of cash. Anyone interested in betting on their success? B O B L E E ____________________________ mailto:bob@flyboybob.com http://flyboybob.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:33:07 -0300 To: , From: "Cesar" Subject: Re: KR> Progress Message-ID: <001201c27072$565b4580$c34eb1c8@terra.com.br> Bob, Your site is much more than a site : Is a true how to do it right manual!!! Simply the best KR site ! Congratulations! Cesar Brasil ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Lee To: KRnet Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:25 PM Subject: KR> Progress > KRnet_heads, > > This is not a virus notification! Please delete if you only read KR related > stuff on Fridays. > > I finished the oil cooler mounting bracket today. Not a great thing, but > daily progress will get me flying soon. Take a look at > http://flyboybob.com/web_pages/kr2/diary/pictures_of_the_week.htm to see my > progress. > > Is anyone interested in a pool for the 2004 gathering? Anybody that thinks > they can have their KR completed by then can buy a share in the rewards for > say fifty bucks. Then the pilots that actually make it to the gathering in > 2004 can divide up the pot of cash. Anyone interested in betting on their > success? > > B O B L E E > ____________________________ > mailto:bob@flyboybob.com > http://flyboybob.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:34:55 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Linda Bennett Subject: Copperstate Message-Id: Hi, Steve and I are down in AZ and our GPAS booth is all set up for the opening day. Can't tell you how to find us, but we are in one of those in a 10 x 10 booths clustered together. If you hit the water, you went too far! Linda Bennett ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:33:15 -0500 To: From: "Gary W. Haun" Subject: Anti-virus Message-ID: <000001c26fec$3e02a180$c78cde0c@haun4> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C26FC2.552C9980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PC-cillin anti-virus, $12.95 Zone Alarms firewall, free http://www.zonelabs.com/store/application?namespace=zls_main &origin=global.jsp&event=link.home&&zl_catalog_view_id=201 AVG anti-virus, free except XP problems Search ZDnet for free downloads http://www.zdnet.com/ Gary W. Haun KR-1 #5985 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C26FC2.552C9980-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:13:27 -0500 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: About Al Freisen's Plane Message-ID: <008001c26ffa$3d1b4660$c5991f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C26FD0.54021AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, This is the response from AL Freisen I got when I asked him to = tell us about his plane: The stats on my plane are not written in stone but will present them. = Empty wt. 691 lbs., Gross as registered is limited to 980 lbs. as per design, otherwise I would have to start most of the paperwork over again, which = I didn't have the heart to do. Also would have to name the kit an Al = Friesen or whatever, because of the mods. In Canada we have to build to kit = plan (Everything) or it isn't a KR2S. I didn't find this out until well into = the final paperwork. I was told that my plane stretched the rules and they changed the requirements somewhat and let me have the flight authority = after much paperwork back and forth. 160 flat out at 3400rpm 140 at 3100 120 at 2900 110 at 270 Over the numbers at 80mph, touch down at 60 after a tail = down flair and I let the tail come up for better control and visibility. She trims out good, with 12 usgal in header and me at 180 lbs I trim neutral = for takeoff. I don't trim on climb, I like a bit of pressure on stick. Turns require little if any rudder, I just keep pressure on the peddles as I = have my tail wheel gables on springs and they tighten up before the rudder = cables come into play which lets the rudder slop a little if I don't put = pressure on them. Have had her up to 190 indicated and no flutter. I = jiggled the controls a bit to see if it would flutter but the stick gets heavy, feels solid. Control hinges as per plans, all pushrod accept rudder. I = would put bushings or bearings in all bellcranks if I built it from the start, = may do it in future. Only the rudder has no balancing. Controls are touchy = but are no problem. She is a forgiving plane as long as I don't get mentally lazy on takeoff or landing. Reminds me of the 150 I had just faster. I don't like were Revmaster puts the oil cooler and will change that to a remote located in the exit air area some time in the future. I reduced the size of the ramair tube into the Revflow = carb as this was leaning the mixture too much. I used the bottom of a soup = can with a fluted hole which it could ground adjust to suit, about a 1" hole = was right. This lets a bit of cowl heat into the carb as I have a 1/4" gap between the carb ram tube and the cowl intake ran tube. I put a latch in the middle of the canopy door bow to = close the gap because cabin pressure and lift on the outside bowed it out in flight ( especially at high speed) this did the trick. It is a 1 and = 1/4" stainless washer with one side bent up 90 degrees screwed to the inside = of the door bow half way up from the bottom to the hinge. A lot of air came into the cabin and made it hard to light a smoke. The vents on each side = are made from plastic sink drain tube ( the one you use under a sink with = the snug up collar). I put a cap on the outside, cut 2, 3/4" holes on one = side and can rotate it for air in or out and pull it in to adjust the amount = of air I want. I put a hose on the right one when I need defrost air to the windshield. The oil dip stick on the VW is on the left front of the engine and I made dip stick which I get at through the left intake. I = can also topup the oil into the dipstick hole with a plastic hose installed = in an oilcan cap. Let me know if you need more info. It doesn't all come = to mind all the little things one does to a plane to make it ones own = creation. Al Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C26FD0.54021AE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:03:40 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: skinning your boat Message-ID: <001901c27055$1292b210$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2702B.2979FBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Larry Capps just reminded about about a post I made five years ago, that = could probably bear repeating. Thanks for reminding me. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Date: Dec 19, 1997 9:01 PM From: Mark Langford Subject: KR: boat skinning tip KRBoatHeads, A tidbit of totally unsolicited advice on boat construction: after a = truss (fuselage side) is constructed, and it's time to skin it with plywood, = glue the plywood to the side that was facing DOWN. When you miter your verticals and gussets you try your best to make the joints perfect on = the side you can see, but what happens to the side facing the table that you can't see? Since you can't see it while you're fitting and gluing, the joints won't be as tight on the down side, so cover THAT side with skin = to both strengthen it and hide it. I didn't have the good sense to do = this, so the joints that you see inside my boat are the joints on the worst looking side. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailo:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2702B.2979FBC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:04:21 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KRnet fund raising opportunity Message-ID: <002f01c2705d$8ceb1040$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> KRnetHeads, I guess it's time to ask for donations. There are two costs that we incur with KRnet. The most important one is the support of the actual list, and the nice guy who "provides" it is Alan Clegg. He is the guy behind mailinglists.org, and is the man to thank for our lightening-fast spam- and advertising-free list. He doesn't ask for much, just "your 2 cents worth". Ya'll can give what you want, but I think $5 would be a nice round number that would make it worth his while to keep on putting up with us. I don't think a single one of you could argue that this list hasn't saved you five bucks yet! You can either use Paypal or write him a check and mail it to him. Details on how to get funds to him are located at http://www.mailinglists.org/donations.html . The other cost we incur is paying for domain hosting for the www.krnet.org webpage. I just paid for another two years of the domain name itself, and am about to have to pay for a place to host it. Although there are cheaper places to host a domain, I'm very tempted to put it on hiwaay.net where my stuff is, because the company is rock solid, they have very fast equipment, and I've not had a single problem with them in the nine years that I've been with them. That costs $20 a month though, so the grand total for www.krnet.org 's website would be something like $270 a year. But that sounds awful steep for a web page that's been living on my website for free for years. If anybody knows of a good, high quality ISP that does domain hosting with a decent amount of free disk space, and for cheap (say $5-10 a month), I'd love to hear about it. I really don't care where we "park" the thing, especially since it can easily be moved. Ross's teleport location expired in July, so we're actually living on borrowed time right now. Once we figure out where it will be hosted in the future, I'll let you know how much it costs, and then I'll take up a collection of some sort to cover it. Probably what I'll do is take contributions through Paypal or personal checks, and whatever amount I get will pay us up for some certain number of months or years, and I'll not ask for another donation for the www.krnet.org part of the list maintenance until that money runs out. But it'll be a few weeks before I know how much that'll be, so save a few dollars for that part of KRnet support too. The other alternative is to simply move the web page itself to my website (which is where it used to be anyway, oddly enough,), where it can live for free. Actually, it's already there, since every time I update the KRnet webpage, I make a copy and save it to http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html for those who haven't bothered to update their links from back in the days when this was my primary website. Since it's already there, it wouldn't cost me a bit of extra web space. The only downside would be that there might be a few aviation places that point to it at www.krnet.org , but I've got a feeling if somebody wanted to find out about KR's on the web, it wouldn't take them long to find my page or somebody else's. Last time I checked, about the first 10 hits on "KR2S" were my web site anyway! I don't care either way, but I'm not sure that having an actual www.krnet.org web presence is very important to us. Any opinions on this either way? I suppose one good way to "vote" would be to ask for contributions, and see how many checks I collect. If it's not enough to pay for one year of www.krnet.org web page support, I'd just tear them all up and the issue would be resolved! And don't forget to visit http://www.mailinglists.org/donations.html and throw some change at Alan for his excellent list support! And I'm open to cheap domain host (without advertising) suggestions too... Thanks a lot, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:28:02 -0400 (EDT) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jerry_L._Mahurin?=" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_KR>_KRnet_fund_raising_opportunity?= Message-ID: <62767.216.136.91.12.1034281682.squirrel@www.jerrymahurin.com> Mark, et al, > The other cost we incur is paying for domain hosting for the > www.krnet.org webpage. I just paid for another two years of the domain > name itself, and am about to have to pay for a place to host it. > > If anybody knows of a good, high quality ISP that does domain hosting > with a decent amount of free disk space, and for cheap (say $5-10 a > month), I'd love to hear about it. I really don't care where we "park" > the thing, especially since it can easily be moved. See our KR2 at http://kr-builder.org Take a look here......... http://www.t3link.com This is where KR-Builder.org lives and I maintain three other websites out of here on their cheapest plans. It was only $7.95 a few months ago. They have been excellent and they also provide mailing list stuff..... Jerry Mahurin Lugoff, SC email: KRJerry@jerrymahurin.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:21:56 -0400 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: flyKRS@netscape.net (Mr. Bryce Guenther) Subject: Smoking in KR's Message-ID: <169DBC68.26161232.0006291F@netscape.net> Smoking in a KR? I don't smoke though having just read a netters comment about canopy latching and having prior difficulty of "lighting a smoke do to the volume of air" my immediate thought of an glowing amber from a cigarrete going uncontrollably astry in the tinder wood box of a KR fuselage. Do people really smoke in wood aircraft? comments? -- Flying is Fun and a Thrill that nearly nothing else can compare. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:41:18 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Smoking in KR's Message-ID: I took that comment as a spoof. No one could be serious about smoking in a plane with several gallons of fuel only a couple of feet away, in the same space. No one would be that stupid. See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the pictures. See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 9/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:24:16 EDT To: flyKRS@netscape.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Smoking in KR's Message-ID: --part1_f8.232dd5c0.2ad86340_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/02 1:22:53 PM Central Daylight Time, flyKRS@netscape.net writes: > Do people really smoke in wood aircraft? comments? > i do smoke, and smoke a lot, i would not dream of smoking in a kr or any other aircraft, the smoke is very detremental to instruments and electronics, besides smoking is stupid enough without doing it in an airplant --part1_f8.232dd5c0.2ad86340_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:25:54 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AeroPax@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Smoking in KR's Message-ID: --part1_cd.1ee44dce.2ad8b802_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/11/2002 12:31:34 PM Central Daylight Time, CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com writes: > , i would not dream of smoking in a kr or any > other aircraft, the smoke is very detremental to instruments and > electronics, > besides smoking is stupid enough without doing it in an airplant So why then do many aircraft have ashtrays? Not to start a big stink or anything, but I'd have to call it a situational decision. KR w/ a fuselage tank, probably not a good idea. All the fuel in the wings, maybe not such a big deal. As with most things in aviation it's a choice hopefully based on the knowledge of the risk involved. --part1_cd.1ee44dce.2ad8b802_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:32:45 -0600 To: 'Mark Langford ' , "'krnet@mailinglists.org '" From: Rick Subject: RE: Hosting KRNet with a databae option Message-ID: <41ED2F1280124E4D8B88691C9A9B5FDE011BC8@mail.binoids.com> Hi Mark and all For $8.25 a month based on yearly fees I use this ISP and they are great! http://tera-byte.com/hosting.html I use the 4U package that provides 200 MB plus lots of extra's What I really like about this package is that it comes with a MySQL database and it facilitates PHP files. Programmers like myself can easily setup Polls for us all to use for voting on issues. Or setup database driven calendars like this one I am setting up for a racewalking club I belong to. http://www.albertaworld.com/race/calendarix/calendar.php The database can also provide members only password protected area's were all KRNet members can be listed with info and one click email. Also... There is free (Open Source) PHP/MySQL Web site code like this one http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/ that can be setup in one day and require no programming at all, only an administrator like Mark. I volunteer to do the database stuff only and will send my donation. Please post an address Mark. Sorry. It's the progrmmer in me. Some builders will feel I have gone overboard with this suggestion. But the hosting price is right and the database stuff can be ignored or implemented one piece at a time. Rick Hubka rick@hubka.com http://www.hubka.com/kr_main.htm -----Original Message----- From: Mark Langford To: krnet@mailinglists.org Sent: 10/10/2002 7:04 AM Subject: KR> KRnet fund raising opportunity KRnetHeads, I guess it's time to ask for donations. There are two costs that we incur with KRnet. The most important one is the support of the actual list, and the nice guy who "provides" it is Alan Clegg. He is the guy behind mailinglists.org, and is the man to thank for our lightening-fast spam- and advertising-free list. He doesn't ask for much, just "your 2 cents worth". Ya'll can give what you want, but I think $5 would be a nice round number that would make it worth his while to keep on putting up with us. I don't think a single one of you could argue that this list hasn't saved you five bucks yet! You can either use Paypal or write him a check and mail it to him. Details on how to get funds to him are located at http://www.mailinglists.org/donations.html . The other cost we incur is paying for domain hosting for the www.krnet.org webpage. I just paid for another two years of the domain name itself, and am about to have to pay for a place to host it. Although there are cheaper places to host a domain, I'm very tempted to put it on hiwaay.net where my stuff is, because the company is rock solid, they have very fast equipment, and I've not had a single problem with them in the nine years that I've been with them. That costs $20 a month though, so the grand total for www.krnet.org 's website would be something like $270 a year. But that sounds awful steep for a web page that's been living on my website for free for years. If anybody knows of a good, high quality ISP that does domain hosting with a decent amount of free disk space, and for cheap (say $5-10 a month), I'd love to hear about it. I really don't care where we "park" the thing, especially since it can easily be moved. Ross's teleport location expired in July, so we're actually living on borrowed time right now. Once we figure out where it will be hosted in the future, I'll let you know how much it costs, and then I'll take up a collection of some sort to cover it. Probably what I'll do is take contributions through Paypal or personal checks, and whatever amount I get will pay us up for some certain number of months or years, and I'll not ask for another donation for the www.krnet.org part of the list maintenance until that money runs out. But it'll be a few weeks before I know how much that'll be, so save a few dollars for that part of KRnet support too. The other alternative is to simply move the web page itself to my website (which is where it used to be anyway, oddly enough,), where it can live for free. Actually, it's already there, since every time I update the KRnet webpage, I make a copy and save it to http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kr2s.html for those who haven't bothered to update their links from back in the days when this was my primary website. Since it's already there, it wouldn't cost me a bit of extra web space. The only downside would be that there might be a few aviation places that point to it at www.krnet.org , but I've got a feeling if somebody wanted to find out about KR's on the web, it wouldn't take them long to find my page or somebody else's. Last time I checked, about the first 10 hits on "KR2S" were my web site anyway! I don't care either way, but I'm not sure that having an actual www.krnet.org web presence is very important to us. Any opinions on this either way? I suppose one good way to "vote" would be to ask for contributions, and see how many checks I collect. If it's not enough to pay for one year of www.krnet.org web page support, I'd just tear them all up and the issue would be resolved! And don't forget to visit http://www.mailinglists.org/donations.html and throw some change at Alan for his excellent list support! And I'm open to cheap domain host (without advertising) suggestions too... Thanks a lot, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:39:29 -0700 To: From: "Daniel Heath" Subject: RE: KR> KRnet site opportunity Message-ID: T3-Link is 4.95 a month with a 2 year contract. See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the pictures. See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 9/19/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:00:58 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KRnet site opportunity Message-ID: <005101c270b0$e57b8e30$1c00a8c0@mlangford> I think I have the answer to the web site problem, and thanks to several KRnetter volunteers, I think it'll be free! Stay tuned... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:53:01 -0500 To: From: "Berry Coppage" Subject: kr2 Message-ID: <000e01c270af$c939eec0$6501a8c0@houston.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C27085.E006D2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to know if there are any KR2 or KR2s in the Houston area. THANKS ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C27085.E006D2A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:57:37 -0500 To: From: "Ricky Farley" Subject: Dimple Tape Message-ID: <005501c270c9$965b2bd0$6801a8c0@ENTERPRISE> ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C2709F.AD8523D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out the photo of the prop on page 20 of the September issue of Experimenter for an example of the positive use of dimple tape. The gentleman that built the Celebrity does credit a KR builder for the idea. Ricky KR2-S San Angelo TX ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C2709F.AD8523D0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:56:06 -0500 To: "Ricky Farley" , From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR> Dimple Tape Message-ID: <008301c270da$204d1820$0200a8c0@dad> I have a scan of that article that I can send to anyone that's interested. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Farley" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: KR> Dimple Tape > Check out the photo of the prop on page 20 of the September issue of > Experimenter for an example of the positive use of dimple tape. The > gentleman that built the Celebrity does credit a KR builder for the > idea. > > Ricky > KR2-S > San Angelo TX > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:07:41 EDT To: jeffyork40@hotmail.com, krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> Platinum plugs in 2180? Message-ID: <6f.2f19fbb4.2ad78c6d@cs.com> In a message dated 10/7/02 6:32:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jeffyork40@hotmail.com writes: << Has anyone used platinum plugs in their GPAS 2180 VW motor. >> Yes, got mine at Pep Boys. Gary D Hinkle Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 23:20:20 -0400 To: From: "TIM BOYER" Subject: LANDING GEAR QUESTION Message-ID: <001e01c270d5$32f42040$5374fea9@user> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C270B3.9A3DE640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can a KR2 with retracts be changed over to fixed tri gear. If so what = should I be prepaired to do? Thanks Tim=20 Bainbridge PA ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C270B3.9A3DE640-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:52:00 -0500 To: From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> LANDING GEAR QUESTION Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021011055200.009ba760@mail.midwest.net> At 11:20 PM 10/10/02 -0400, TIM BOYER wrote: >Can a KR2 with retracts be changed over to fixed tri gear. If so what should I be prepaired to do? >Thanks Tim ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++ Yes it can. Your best option is probably the Diehl tri-gear setup. You will need to open the wing center section to attach the main gear brackets to the back side of the spar and maybe change the aileron cable routing a bit but it shouldn't be that complicated. Make sure the nose gear assembly will attach to the firewall with the engine mount you are using. There are other trigear setups flying but if you want a "bolt on and fly" system with no engineering on your part, that is the way to go. A number of KR's have been converted and there are probably some pictures on the web somewhere of the process. Dan Diehl would probably send you some photo's (included in the instructions) before you purchase the gear. Personally, I think the KR looks good on the trigear setup as compared to the original retracts. You're looking at about $1000.00 to convert. The hardest part to convert will be the money !!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 23:18:24 -0500 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: AOL folks? Message-ID: <006f01c270dd$3dee35a0$1c00a8c0@mlangford> You guys on AOL....are you getting any, most, some, or none of the KRnet email? If you don't know for sure, check, if you would, and compare it to what you think you got (by visiting http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ ). I only ask because I'm setting up a new CorvAircraft list, and I want to be honest about what I tell the AOL guys with regards to whether or not they need to find some other way to check their email... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:54:14 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: David Busby Subject: KR2 For Sale Message-ID: <3DA72C66.10309@jefcoed.com> Started by a real craftsman who lost his medical at 80 years young--on original retracts with wing stubs, horizontal stabilizer, elevator and rudder 'glassed. Sling seats and stick installed. Two props and all instruments needed to finish, as well as uni-directional and bi-directional cloth needed to finish (he changed his mind) Box spars completed and ready to be used. Lots of foam (thin and thick), formed turtledeck, wing tips, canopy--everything needed to finish but resin and paint that I know of. HAPI 1835cc engine still in crate. Asking $6500 or best offer. David Busby Birmingham, AL 205-967-1893 ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************