From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 27 Oct 2002 17:20:00 -0000 Issue 539 Date: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:22 AM krnet Digest 27 Oct 2002 17:20:00 -0000 Issue 539 Topics (messages 12958 through 12975): wheel pants/climb rate 12958 by: Oscar Zuniga 12959 by: cartera 12960 by: larry flesner vw engine oil 12961 by: Sylvester Stys Gussets 12962 by: norm-ruth Texas Corvair College 12963 by: Oscar Zuniga flight sim 12964 by: Bdazzcamro.aol.com 12965 by: Bdazzcamro.aol.com Re: Slick 50 12966 by: Mike Mims 12967 by: cartera Re: Slick 50 / Oil Additives 12968 by: David Mullins oil additives 12969 by: jim . synergy design engine oil 12970 by: Larry A. Capps 12971 by: ROBERT COOPER 12973 by: larry flesner Oil Change 12972 by: Robert Stone Oil changes 12974 by: JIM VANCE oil 12975 by: jim . synergy design Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:52:24 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: wheel pants/climb rate Message-ID: Hello, netters; I don't know how it actually works out if all the force vectors were analyzed, but intuitively if there is a drag force acting below the longitudinal thrust line of the airplane, additional nose-up pitch would be required to overcome the moment that the drag creates. Reducing the landing gear drag would reduce that moment, so that the same pitch would then produce a greater climb rate. PS- This is how engineers use technical terms to describe observed effects ;o) PPS- I hate to keep seeing Adrian Carter's name get massacred. His email name is "cartera", but that is simply a rearrangement of "A. Carter", get it? His name isn't "Cartera". In Spanish that particular word actually means a female letter carrier. Adrian- you're not a former postal worker who dresses as a woman, are you? ;o) Happy Friday, y'all... Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:53:25 -0600 To: Oscar Zuniga From: cartera CC: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> wheel pants/climb rate Message-ID: <3DB99325.2DE439FD@cuug.ab.ca> Hi Oscar and KR Gang, No, I am not a mail carrier or dress in drag and really don't care what you call me I know who I am and the name is Adrian had it all my life. I am just an 69 year old fart who has flown most of my life and just love airplanes of any kind. I here to help anyone who is stuck for an answer. You guys watch that ego building because I'll get so stuffy I won't be able to lower myself to help anyone. Anyhow, guys thanks for the kind words, Happy Building, Flying and Good Health to All! PS: Just a point about oil, a good guality single grade oil that is all that is required. Multi grade is a waste of money because your engine does not sit outside like a car does and it is air cooled to it reaches temps reasonably fast, synthetic oils is another waste of money, it was developed for the military for extreme freezing temperatures. Most of you guys change at 25 hours witch is good. So don't think your getting some unforseen benefit from these expensive oils because your not. I used Pennzoil 40 all them time, remember the oil is a coolant also and not just a lubricant. ASE 40 = Aero 80.... Oscar Zuniga wrote: > > Hello, netters; > > I don't know how it actually works out if all the force vectors were > analyzed, but intuitively if there is a drag force acting below the > longitudinal thrust line of the airplane, additional nose-up pitch would be > required to overcome the moment that the drag creates. Reducing the landing > gear drag would reduce that moment, so that the same pitch would then > produce a greater climb rate. > > PS- This is how engineers use technical terms to describe observed effects > ;o) > > PPS- I hate to keep seeing Adrian Carter's name get massacred. His email > name is "cartera", but that is simply a rearrangement of "A. Carter", get > it? His name isn't "Cartera". In Spanish that particular word actually > means a female letter carrier. Adrian- you're not a former postal worker > who dresses as a woman, are you? ;o) Happy Friday, y'all... > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:50:24 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> wheel pants/climb rate Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021025135024.00891100@mail.midwest.net> At 11:52 AM 10/25/02 -0500, Oscar Zuniga wrote: >I don't know how it actually works out if all the force vectors were >analyzed, but intuitively if there is a drag force acting below the >longitudinal thrust line of the airplane, additional nose-up pitch would be >required to overcome the moment that the drag creates. Reducing the landing >gear drag would reduce that moment, so that the same pitch would then >produce a greater climb rate. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Oscar, My intuition tells me that I've traded that landing gear drag, howerver you vector it, for lift drag to maintain the same airspeed at max power setting, thus the better climb rate. If I have less drag at the same pitch angle my speed will increase. I pull the nose up to maintain a target airspeed, more pitch, more lift, better climb, same (original) airspeed. Buy that? :-0 Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:45:55 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Sylvester Stys Subject: vw engine oil Message-ID: <3DB9AD83.EAAC9E68@worldnet.att.net> Greetings KR netters, I have been following the discussion about engine oils and gpasc recomends 30w auto oil ("smaller oil galleries") while other builders are using the a$hless dispersant avoils. I live in Wisconsin and without a preheater it seems a 20/50 oil is going to take longer to get that cooling and lubrication layer in the engine. N395JT Syl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:32:01 -0700 To: "krnet" From: "norm-ruth" Subject: Gussets Message-ID: <003501c27c87$20af8c40$b2cbd03f@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C27C4C.6DB2FA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is somewhat dangerous to go from memory, but I believe that when Tony = Bingelis was writing for Sport Aviation, he stated it was OK to glue = wood that had been sanded, as long as the glue was epoxy. It would = probably be a good idea to make some test samples of sanded and = machined pieces. Norm Seel ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C27C4C.6DB2FA80-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:28:03 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org, corvaircraft@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Cc: WilliamTCA@aol.com Subject: Texas Corvair College Message-ID: Howdy, Vair-heads; William Wynne has agreed to conduct a "Corvair College" here in south Texas, and we've set the date and location: January 18, 2003, at the San Geronimo Airpark, home of EAA Chapter 35. Semi-complete details are available at the following site: http://www.experimental-aviation.com/SACorvairCollege.html This is the weekend immediately prior to Super Bowl 2003 and well after the Christmas and New Year holidays, so you will have no excuses! We're allowing plenty of time to get parts ordered and get engines cleaned. Apparently we are not far enough south to be considered "South", so we aren't calling it the "Southern Comfort Corvair College" anymore. (We had even thought of holding it in Comfort, TX, home of EAA Chapter 747.) Anyway, a good way to keep it in mind is the Texas battle cry, "Remember the Alamo!" and you certainly can visit the Alamo in downtown San Antonio if you come. More information will be forthcoming, such as nearby motels, planned cookouts, that sort of thing. Get your engines and parts ready... Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:42:26 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Bdazzcamro@aol.com Subject: flight sim Message-ID: <11f.18d7af07.2aeb3ef2@aol.com> --part1_11f.18d7af07.2aeb3ef2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can someone tell me where I can find the flight simulator for the KR-2. Email me back at Bdazzcamro@aol.com to tell me where. Soon to be flier, David Swanson (Tucson, AZ) --part1_11f.18d7af07.2aeb3ef2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:41:01 EDT To: krnet@mailinglists.org (krnet) From: Bdazzcamro@aol.com Subject: flight sim Message-ID: <151.1673c012.2aeb92fd@aol.com> --part1_151.1673c012.2aeb92fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok now I have the kr2s_k2 zip but it still doesnt want to do anything. Can someone help me out??? I would really like to try this thing out but I cant seem to get it. --part1_151.1673c012.2aeb92fd_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT) To: krnet From: Mike Mims Subject: Re: KR> Slick 50 Message-ID: <20021026205024.58388.qmail@web10807.mail.yahoo.com> I found an interesting gov. web site that showed that all the claims by ALL of these super oils were false. Every single claim by ProLong was false and they were forced by our gov. to stop making the claims. Prolong and others were actually shown to cause harm (corrosion I think) during the gov. test. I wish I would have book marked the webpage as it was really good reading. Every single miracal oil or aditive that I could think of was listed and EVERY SINGLE one made nothing but false claims and a couple, as I said before showed a negative affect on the metals during the test. Do yourself a favor, change your oil when your supposed to and just use a good qaulity oil. I have been running AmsOil 10-40 in my turbo car and really like it. Cost a lot but I think its worth it and I would run it in a heart beat in any auto/aero conversion. What ever you do dont run aviation oil in your VW. --- gleone wrote: > Slick 50 will work but there are better products > like "Prolong". It will > not hurt the engine and will only help it. HOWEVER, > wait until at least > 100 hours before adding it so the engine can "break > in" properly. > > Brian Kraut wrote: > > > Is Slick 50 treatment recommended for VW aircraft > engines? If so, > > should it be used on the first break in oil fill > or at the first oil > > change? Not sure how it will act with all the > assembly lube, etc. in > > the engine. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:30:11 -0600 To: Mike Mims From: cartera CC: krnet Subject: Re: KR> Slick 50 Message-ID: <3DBB0963.F14DCA25@cuug.ab.ca> Hello Mike and the KR Gang, This is what I was trying to put across, just a good oil and one will be safe without all the brainwashing that these marketers put out. My land vehicle I have used a good 10/30 since it was new and it's still going strong. As you say use a good automotive oil and after some research on my own I found that a single grade is best for air-cooled engines. Anyway Mike, how you doing???? Mike Mims wrote: > > I found an interesting gov. web site that showed that > all the claims by ALL of these super oils were false. > Every single claim by ProLong was false and they were > forced by our gov. to stop making the claims. Prolong > and others were actually shown to cause harm > (corrosion I think) during the gov. test. I wish I > would have book marked the webpage as it was really > good reading. Every single miracal oil or aditive that > I could think of was listed and EVERY SINGLE one made > nothing but false claims and a couple, as I said > before showed a negative affect on the metals during > the test. > > Do yourself a favor, change your oil when your > supposed to and just use a good qaulity oil. I have > been running AmsOil 10-40 in my turbo car and really > like it. Cost a lot but I think its worth it and I > would run it in a heart beat in any auto/aero > conversion. What ever you do dont run aviation oil in > your VW. > > --- gleone wrote: > > Slick 50 will work but there are better products > > like "Prolong". It will > > not hurt the engine and will only help it. HOWEVER, > > wait until at least > > 100 hours before adding it so the engine can "break > > in" properly. > > > > Brian Kraut wrote: > > > > > Is Slick 50 treatment recommended for VW aircraft > > engines? If so, > > > should it be used on the first break in oil fill > > or at the first oil > > > change? Not sure how it will act with all the > > assembly lube, etc. in > > > the engine. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > > , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:04:27 -0400 From: David Mullins CC: krnet Subject: Re: KR> Slick 50 / Oil Additives Message-ID: <3DBAE73B.D8EFD94A@attbi.com> --------------A866D957B1795FC961D44CFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are some sites google came up with: Dura-Lube: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9905/duralub2.htm ProLong: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9909/prolong.htm MotorUp: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9904/motorup5.htm Slick50: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/9607/slick.htm Z-Max: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.htm http://www.motorkote.com/analysis101.html Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire http://N323Xl.iwarp.com Mike Mims wrote: > I found an interesting gov. web site that showed that > all the claims by ALL of these super oils were false. > Every single claim by ProLong was false and they were > forced by our gov. to stop making the claims. --------------A866D957B1795FC961D44CFD-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:06 -0700 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: oil additives Message-ID: <001901c27d54$55d14c60$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C27D19.A81B21C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable slick 50 is crap. A while ago there was a web site that exposed it for = what it is. If my failing memory serves correctly, it was something = like "snake oil.com" or something like that. There is no substitute for = changing your oil frequently. Jim Sporka ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C27D19.A81B21C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:22:21 -0500 To: "KR Builders List \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: engine oil Message-ID: <000001c27d57$4c99f4a0$0200a8c0@schpankme> KRNet, Consumer Reports, one of the most widely respected product testing laboratories in the world, released the results of an extensive test on oil brands and oil change intervals. In the process, the test demolished much of the conventional wisdom regarding oil as an engine lubrication. The two most surprising results: the frequency with which oil is changed doesn't matter after the first few oil changes on a new engine, and the type or brand of oil used can not be shown to make any difference. The testers placed freshly rebuilt engines in 75 New York taxis and then ran them for nearly two years, with each cab racking up 60,000 miles, placing different brands and weights in different cars and changing the oil at 3,000 miles in half the cars and 6,000 in the other half. At the conclusion of the test period, the engines were torn down, measured and inspected. The conclusions: Regardless of brand of oil or weight, no measurable differences could be observed in engine wear. Furthermore, there was no difference among cars which had oil changed at the shorter or longer interval. So, here's what I've learned regarding what the primary job of an engine oil is: . lubricate the moving parts . cooling of the engine components . acts as a seal . help clean the engine My own personal preference over the last 20+ years has been to use a good quality (SAE 30) weight oil in all my engines. I normally pay around $1.20 a quart average, for SAE 30; and change my oil every: Aircraft Engine - 25 hours (about equal to 6000 miles in a car) Car Engine - 6000 miles Mower - yearly, at the end of mowing season Anyone wanna discuss Oil Filters >:) Regards, Larry A. Capps KR Newsletter Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- GPAC - recomends 30w auto oil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:28:50 -0400 To: , "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> engine oil Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C27D36.AD4FF680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 2000 Pontiac Montana which has a "change engine oil" light. Afte= r more than 3000 miles since last change it still had not come on so I ch= eck the book and it says that it should come on between 3000 and 7000 mil= es. Does anyone know how it measures the quality of the oil to determine = when it should come on? I had the oil changed after abuot 4500 miles and = it still wasn't on. Jack Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry A. Capps Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:15 PM To: KR Builders List (E-mail) Subject: KR> engine oil KRNet, Consumer Reports, one of the most widely respected product testing laboratories in the world, released the results of an extensive test on o= il brands and oil change intervals. In the process, the test demolished much= of the conventional wisdom regarding oil as an engine lubrication. The two most surprising results: the frequency with which oil is changed doesn't matter after the first few oil changes on a new engine, and the t= ype or brand of oil used can not be shown to make any difference. The testers placed freshly rebuilt engines in 75 New York taxis and then = ran them for nearly two years, with each cab racking up 60,000 miles, placing different brands and weights in different cars and changing the oil at 3,= 000 miles in half the cars and 6,000 in the other half. At the conclusion of = the test period, the engines were torn down, measured and inspected. The conclusions: Regardless of brand of oil or weight, no measurable differences could be observed in engine wear. Furthermore, there was no difference among cars which had oil changed at the shorter or longer interval. So, here's what I've learned regarding what the primary job of an engine = oil is: . lubricate the moving parts . cooling of the engine components . acts as a seal . help clean the engine My own personal preference over the last 20+ years has been to use a good quality (SAE 30) weight oil in all my engines. I normally pay around $1.= 20 a quart average, for SAE 30; and change my oil every: Aircraft Engine - 25 hours (about equal to 6000 miles in a car) Car Engine - 6000 miles Mower - yearly, at the end of mowing season Anyone wanna discuss Oil Filters >:) Regards, Larry A. Capps KR Newsletter Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- GPAC - recomends 30w auto oil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C27D36.AD4FF680-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:57:29 -0600 To: From: larry flesner Subject: engine oil Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021027075729.00885890@mail.midwest.net> ++++ snip++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >different brands and weights in different cars and changing the oil at 3,000 >miles in half the cars and 6,000 in the other ------------------snip------------------------- >The conclusions: Regardless of brand of oil or weight, no measurable >differences could be observed in engine wear. Furthermore, there was no >difference among cars which had oil changed at the shorter or longer >interval. Larry Capp +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++== This is not the least bit surprising. Modern oils are designed to perform much longer even than the 6,000 mile point. I drove a GM company car 20 years ago that called for oil changes at 7,500 miles and filter at 15,000! That's like checking a 50,000 mile tire at 5 and 10 thousand miles. See any difference? My personal vehicles? I'm still stuck in the 1950's mind set. Oil change and filter every 3,000 miles and the oil company LOVES me for it!! The only additive I've NEVER heard bad things about is Marvel Mystery Oil. Anyone have any stories on it? I've used it in the Tripacer for 420 hours now, no problems. (4 Oz. per 10 gal of fuel, 1/2 qt. in crankcase/oil change) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:59:18 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Oil Change Message-ID: <001001c27db8$a981b660$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C27D86.5E935A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, My 2 cents, for what it's worth. About a year ago I bought a new = 2002 Cadillac Deville and the book says change oil every 10,000 miles. = I just don't believe this is often enough so I do it every 5000 miles. = It just seems to me that in the length of time it takes me to drive = 10,000 miles there has got to be a build up of stuff that will cause = excessive wear. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C27D86.5E935A00-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:09:22 -0600 To: "kr net" From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: Oil changes Message-ID: <001601c27dca$e6a78800$36000a0a@VANCE> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C27D98.89E23700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the sixties and seventies, I drove VW's as a commuting vehicle. I = probably logged over 500,000 miles on VW's. The rule of thumb that I = used to change the oil was to pull out the dipstick and slide it between = my finger and thumb. If it felt gritty, I changed the oil. Since my commute was more than 40 miles each way, the engine was more = than warmed up and I had evaporated all of the moisture and other = volatiles out of the oil. I found that during the summer heat, the oil = would become gritty after a thousand to 1500 miles. In the winter when = the engine was running cooler, I was able to go to 3000 miles between = oil changes. I always got 80,000 plus miles on the engine before I = would trade cars, so this technique must have worked. Eighty thousand = miles at full throttle (only 40 to 70 horsepower caused you to stand on = the pedal) is the equivalent of 2,000 miles on an aircraft engine. Jim Vance = Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C27D98.89E23700-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:35:02 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: oil Message-ID: <001b01c27de7$91291020$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C27DA4.81C6E780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Larry and netters. I had a neighbor that was a Cadillac mechanic. He = always used Marvel Mystery oil in his personal vehicles. I bought the = used engine out of his truck when it was in an accident. It had over = 100,000 miles. Looked like new inside(no sludge, etc. ) and had = compression and oil pressure consistant with a NEW engine. I drove the = truck with that engine for over 5 years until I sold it. Works for me. = Jim Sporka ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C27DA4.81C6E780-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************