From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 8 Nov 2002 15:04:14 -0000 Issue 546 Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:04 AM krnet Digest 8 Nov 2002 15:04:14 -0000 Issue 546 Topics (messages 13096 through 13116): Re: com antenna 13096 by: Scott Stanton 13100 by: cartera Re: escribe down 13097 by: Frank Ross 13098 by: Robert Stone 13101 by: Phil Maley help for Justin 13099 by: Oscar Zuniga KRNet Archives 13102 by: John Bouyea Your RG58U Antenna 13103 by: Peter Johnson 13104 by: larry flesner project FOR SALE 13105 by: AviationMech.aol.com Belly Boards 13106 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 13107 by: Rick Wilson 13108 by: Justin 13109 by: Tim Brown 13110 by: David Mullins 13111 by: clappw.bellsouth.net 13112 by: Tim Brown 13114 by: Daniel Heath 13115 by: Mark Langford KR-1 ramblings 13113 by: Gary W. Haun elevator trim 13116 by: Oscar Zuniga Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:48:09 -0800 (PST) To: larry flesner , krnet@mailinglists.org From: Scott Stanton Subject: Re: KR> com antenna Message-ID: <20021106154809.27661.qmail@web11908.mail.yahoo.com> There was an article in Kitplanes a few (probably many) months ago on antennas by Jim Wier. He basically said that when radio waves bounce off of objects they align themselves in a vertical manner. So a vertical comm antenna will pick up the original source plus any bounces resulting in s stronger signal. The Nav antennas need to be horizontal because you only want them to pick up the transmission straight from the source. Scott Stanton Raleigh NC --- larry flesner wrote: > At 07:35 AM 11/4/02 -0500, Apex Industrial Equipment > Inc wrote: > >I liked the idea for the antenna installation below > the glass. I have a > question though, could the antenna be installed > using the copper strip > method in the horizontal stabilizer? > >Leigh Plymale > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I seem to recall that the com antenna needs to be > mounted in the > vertical plane and nav antennas mounted in the horz > plane. It has > to do with the orientation of the radio waves from > the ground > stations or something like that. I think the two > elements you see > mounted horz on the tail of Cessnas are the nav > antennas. > Experts, correct me if this is wrong. > > Larry Flesner > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:19:58 -0700 To: Scott Stanton From: cartera CC: larry flesner , krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> com antenna Message-ID: <3DC9958E.284ECF71@cuug.ab.ca> Hello Gang, Being a ham radio operator for a long time and antennae have always been my specialty. This is called polarization, vertical and horizontal, usually to make your antenna the same position as the one you are working nav - horizontal and comm - vertical. A very nice efficient antenna can be made just out of RG58U with no solder joints, center conductor the radiator and the shielding the ground. I have it in the vertical fin build-in on my KR works great and have had up to 75 mile contacts with good reports. Happy Building and Flying, Guys! Scott Stanton wrote: > > There was an article in Kitplanes a few (probably > many) months ago on antennas by Jim Wier. He > basically said that when radio waves bounce off of > objects they align themselves in a vertical manner. > So a vertical comm antenna will pick up the original > source plus any bounces resulting in s stronger > signal. > > The Nav antennas need to be horizontal because you > only want them to pick up the transmission straight > from the source. > > Scott Stanton > Raleigh NC > > --- larry flesner wrote: > > At 07:35 AM 11/4/02 -0500, Apex Industrial Equipment > > Inc wrote: > > >I liked the idea for the antenna installation below > > the glass. I have a > > question though, could the antenna be installed > > using the copper strip > > method in the horizontal stabilizer? > > >Leigh Plymale > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > I seem to recall that the com antenna needs to be > > mounted in the > > vertical plane and nav antennas mounted in the horz > > plane. It has > > to do with the orientation of the radio waves from > > the ground > > stations or something like that. I think the two > > elements you see > > mounted horz on the tail of Cessnas are the nav > > antennas. > > Experts, correct me if this is wrong. > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:00:53 -0800 (PST) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> escribe down Message-ID: <20021106170053.62403.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Posted the same problem the other day and several netters replied they were having no problem with it. Thought it was me. Still only get 'page cannot be displayed', however. Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX --- The Ainsworths wrote: > Do not archive: > I cannot get www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet to work. > Is it down or am I > having a problem? All I get is 'page cannot be > displayed'. I use this site > to go over some of the previous posts that I have > deleted - not a big deal > 'cause the search engine is still excellent. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:25:42 -0600 To: "Frank Ross" , "krnet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> escribe down Message-ID: <000e01c285b9$88b36f60$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Netters, & Frank Ross, I get the same result. I am on Road Runner which is a very fast cable server and all websites come in, in less that 5 seconds. The website in question started to come in and the blue line was moving from left to right very slow for almost 45 seconds and then I got the page "THIS PAGE CANNOT BE DISPLAYED". Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: "krnet" Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: Re: KR> escribe down > Posted the same problem the other day and several > netters replied they were having no problem with it. > Thought it was me. Still only get 'page cannot be > displayed', however. > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX > --- The Ainsworths wrote: > > Do not archive: > > I cannot get www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet to work. > > Is it down or am I > > having a problem? All I get is 'page cannot be > > displayed'. I use this site > > to go over some of the previous posts that I have > > deleted - not a big deal > > 'cause the search engine is still excellent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:03:43 +0800 To: "krnet" From: "Phil Maley" Subject: RE: KR> escribe down Message-ID: Try this link: http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp Regards to all Phil Maley Perth Australia mailto:phil@wotech.com.au http://www.wotech.net/vk6ad/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:30:31 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: help for Justin Message-ID: Justin; From the nature of your questions on laying out to build your fuselage, it sounds like you need some hands-on assistance. I also notice that you list yourself as a member of EAA Chapter 96. I am sure that if the Chapter doesn't have a Tech Counselor, there are at least several people in the chapter that have experience in wood and composite construction and that would be happy to give you a hand. Try to hook up with someone there who can come to your shop and mentor you... I'm sure you will not only strengthen some friendships, but having a second pair of eyes and hands to put to the work will make it more fun and educational for you. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:57 -0800 To: From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KRNet Archives Message-ID: <022701c2860d$1c0cc150$1a00a8c0@bou5100> ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C285CA.0D9D3610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gang, There are a few archives sites in operation; http://kr2s.bouyea.net/digests/Default.htm http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet=20 The last one listed does appear to be down at this time. Please try = them all! John Bouyea KR2 - N5391M/ in rebuild KR2 - on the gear KR2S - boat stage http://www.bouyea.net john@bouyea.net ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C285CA.0D9D3610-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:59:16 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Your RG58U Antenna Message-ID: <000201c2862a$a5efcda0$4fa5e2d1@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C285B5.D73143A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adrian, it's Peter Johnson in Kenora. You didn't think you could post a note about an antenna such as you did = and not expect to be buzzed about providing details now did you!d Details Adrian, DETAILS we call !!!! Inquiring minds need to know..... mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C285B5.D73143A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:17:31 -0600 To: From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Your RG58U Antenna Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021107061731.0089d6d0@mail.midwest.net> Peter Johnson wrote: >You didn't think you could post a note about an antenna such as you did and not expect to be buzzed about providing details now did you!d >Details Adrian, DETAILS we call !!!! Inquiring minds need to know..... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Check out your KR2 plans , page 107. Inquiring minds will find it. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:07:38 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: project FOR SALE Message-ID: <34.2fe2320a.2afc4c3a@aol.com> --part1_34.2fe2320a.2afc4c3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This project is in the boat stage, and sits on Diehl gear (Tail dragger). It is constructed with Birch ply. It has a complete set of Matco wheels, brakes, with Master cylinders and Lamb Tires. The builder has installed a modified window drive motor for the flap drive system. It works great. The stick is installed with push pull rods moving the aileron bell cranks. Some of the electrics for engine operation are installed in the panel. The engine is currently not mounted, however the mount can be reattached. The center section is skinned, and has plywood over the foam. The tail feathers are incomplete. The spruce to construct the main spars is included as are the completed aft spars. The project includes stainless WAF's, which are not installed. He made his own cowlings. Now for the engine. The builder chose to build a type IV. I tested the engine on my KR for one month apx 10 hours. His type IV has big cylinders and a stock crank. for 2300 cc's. It includes a Force One hub, Diehl Accessory case with High torque starter and internal alternator. He used the 009 distributor and auto plugs. For carboration he fashioned manifolds and attached a pair of Stromburg carbs. I tested the engine with my revflow carb. The engine turned my 54 X 52 prop at 3100 rpm. I feel this 49 precent project is just the jump start that someone could finish in a year or less. Meny of the real expensive stuff is already purchased. I will take pictures on Saturday and E-mail them on request. The bottom line, $$$$$$ . I am asking $4,000.00 OBO. I have a sturdy trailer, and with the right deal, I will negotiate part of the delivery, CAUTION>>>>>THE ITEMS LISTED FOR SALE ARE "AS IS">>>>>CAUTION --part1_34.2fe2320a.2afc4c3a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:17:04 -0500 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Belly Boards Message-ID: <20021107.181705.-377811.0.klw1953@juno.com> Since I'll be installing a belly board on the S this winter I was wondering if putting lightening holes in the board is necessary. My thought is that all those holes create more drag as the air passes over it during the cruise part of the flight. Comments please----------Thanks! ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:20:32 -0800 (PST) To: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Rick Wilson Subject: Belly Boards Message-ID: <20021108002032.15890.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> Hi KRnetters, When adding a belly board, do most builders hinge it to the spar and let it lay against the belly skin and then fair around the edges, or do they recess it into the belly? opinions? Thanks, Rick Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:38:15 -0600 To: "KR" From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Belly Boards Message-ID: <000701c286ae$5cef18c0$e8dd1818@socal.rr.com> The holes on the bottom of the fuselage will cause drag IF these two things are applied. One if it is in the airstream (slipstream) TWO. if it hangs out rather then flush with the fuselage. I will not be putting the holes in it as I was highspeed, weight difference with the holes is minimal. You can always make two and change them, and see if you have any difference in performance. Justin KR2S plans California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: KR> Belly Boards > Hi KRnetters, When adding a belly board, do most > builders hinge it to the spar and let it lay against > the belly skin and then fair around the edges, or do > they recess it into the belly? opinions? Thanks, Rick > Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos > http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:54:56 -0800 (PST) To: Rick Wilson , KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> Belly Boards Message-ID: <20021108035456.27943.qmail@web40903.mail.yahoo.com> The spar is 5/8" above the skin. What I did was add a strip of 1/4" ply to the skin with T-88 and a piece of 5/8 x 5/8 triangle cut blocks (gussets if you will) between the new ply and spar. Then I drilled through the hinge and plys, countersunk the heads and used large diameter washers against the ply. This was all behind the main spar (under the seat). I then glued on 1/4" foam on the hinge and belly, sanded and glassed. Board lays flat on belly skin. Tim > When adding a belly board, do > most > builders hinge it to the spar and let it lay > against > the belly skin and then fair around the edges, > or do > they recess it into the belly? opinions? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 23:16:15 -0500 From: David Mullins CC: KRNET@MAILINGLISTS.ORG Subject: Re: KR> Belly Boards Message-ID: <3DCB3A8F.128CB30@attbi.com> Rick, The way I did mine was to install a larger cross member at the rear face of the aft spar. This was not glued to the bottom skin during assembly. The piano hinge is sandwiched between the skin and crossmember and screws go through all three pieces. The belly plywood skin was cut out to fit my aluminum bellyboard. A second layer of plywood was glued to the inside floor of the fuselage to cover the hole and allow the belly board to sit flush with the belly skin. Mark posted a few pictures from the 2002 gathering and you can see the belly board and controls there. I will get my site updated with new pictures soon. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2002/ Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire http://N323XL.iwarp.com Rick Wilson wrote: > Hi KRnetters, When adding a belly board, do most > builders hinge it to the spar and let it lay against > the belly skin and then fair around the edges, or do > they recess it into the belly? opinions? Thanks, Rick > Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos > http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:44:43 -0500 To: From: Subject: bellyboards Message-ID: <00a701c286e1$8ee2ff80$b13dd6d1@h1x1g0> ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C286B7.A586B080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I built up my 1/4 ply belly board the width of the fuse and about 10" = deep with two rows of 2" holes. I then strengthened the bottom edge = with a length of "c"channel aluminum (hardware store). The board is = then attached to the stringer behind the main spar similarly to Tim = Brown's description. The one piece I still lack is a comfortable way to = lower it. I began building a handle assembly that has a mechanism = similar to a VW emergency brake handle that allows for many positions = from closed to full down. If I am pleased with it I will make drawings = available. =20 My previous KR2 did not have a belly board or flaps and I can vouch = for that fact that it is a hard plane to slow down but you do get = accustomed to it and learn how to plan your approaches and descents to = accomidate this. My KR2S though, will have the Corvair engine and I = want to be able to carry a little power on descents and approach so a = little extra drag when needed shouldn't hurt. It is a easy mod to make = and can be easily removed if I don't like it. Plus, it is simple and = simplicity is king! Happy Building! Bill ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C286B7.A586B080-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:14:20 -0800 (PST) To: clappw@bellsouth.net, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> bellyboards Message-ID: <20021108061420.80027.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> I have not built this yet but..... my plan is to do something similar to plans flap mechanism as far as the "pipe" through the flap handle goes only to make it only about a foot in length. Then flatten about 4 or 5 inches and fold these at right angles. To these I plan on some sort of push rod through the spar to an aluminum piece (probably at some radius) cut out of 1" x 4" L aluminum with the 1" attached to the BB and the 4" radius curve (about 1" in width) through the belly with the other end of the push rod attached here. I have it thought out in my head and have rough sketches....just haven't done it yet so it is a work in progress with all suggestions appreciated. Tim > The board is then attached to the > stringer behind the main spar similarly to Tim > Brown's description. The one piece I still > lack is a comfortable way to lower it. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 04:52:26 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Daniel Heath" Cc: Subject: Re: KR> Belly Boards Message-Id: <3DCBB38A.000001.01016@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_E3D9QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_F3D9LVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_F3D9LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Dave, I tried to look at your belly board on http://home.hiwaay net/~langford/redoak2002/, but my browser quite loading 1 picture before = I got there. Let us know when you get these pictures on your site.=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_F3D9LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--------------Boundary-00=_F3D9LVC0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_E3D9QL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:06:27 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Belly Boards Message-ID: <002501c28727$a6108510$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C286F5.5AFEE940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Heath wrote: >>Well Dave, I tried to look at your belly board on = http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2002/, but my browser quit = loading 1 picture before I got there. Let us know when you get these = pictures on your site.<< =20 Here are the ones he was talking about, I think.. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2002/02092021.jpg http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2002/02092027.jpg Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailo:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C286F5.5AFEE940-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 04:26:21 -0500 To: From: "Gary W. Haun" Subject: KR-1 ramblings Message-ID: <000001c28708$e715aa00$c78cde0c@haun4> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C286DE.FE3FA200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A word of thanks to TET, my wing template set arrived ROLLED in a sturdy mailing tube. Thanks also to those who e-mailed me off the net with some tips on drafting to eliminate the banana boat syndrome. I've earmarked tomorrow as KR day since my better half is going to visit her mother out of state. I should have my drawings finished and start a quarter-scale model to see if the changes work. I have also located a 102HP early Corvair for $75.00. 80-90 HP should be plenty and with Nikasil cylinders weight should remain within reason. Back to lurking. Gary W. Haun KR-1 #5985 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C286DE.FE3FA200-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:02:41 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: elevator trim Message-ID: G'day, netters; I've seen a couple of nifty ideas on trim lately; one manual, one electric. The manual trim wheel idea is on pg. 37 of the latest issue of "To Fly" (the SAA publication), and is really slick, simple, and lightweight. It uses a small trim wheel (knurled knob) running a 1/4" bolt back and forth to push/pull a Bowden cable for trim. It also includes a very simple and neat trim position indication. The electric trim idea is on Jeff LeTempt's website (he's building a Dragonfly) and uses the geared, reversible DC motor innards from a cordless screwdriver with a 3-position momentary-contact switch. Low cost, simple, and readily available. I'd give out the URL for Jeff's website but it's a really bad one... hitting his page sets off a firestorm of pop-ups, pop-unders, and other stuff... so with the description I've given, you should be able to get the idea (or go find his site if you care to endure the ads). I searched the KRNet archives under "cordless screwdriver" and found nothing, so hopefully this isn't a rehash of an old idea. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************