From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 29 Nov 2002 12:37:49 -0000 Issue 558 Date: Friday, November 29, 2002 4:38 AM krnet Digest 29 Nov 2002 12:37:49 -0000 Issue 558 Topics (messages 13379 through 13396): Re: 2003 KR Gathering Dates 13379 by: Dan Heath 13385 by: garbez Something cool for sanding 13380 by: Dan Heath Landing Gear Length 13381 by: GARYKR2.cs.com 13382 by: Robert X. Cringely 13383 by: JEHayward.aol.com 13384 by: Brian Kraut 13386 by: jim . synergy design 13388 by: larry flesner 13396 by: Dan Heath Re: Mike Garbez 13387 by: Dan Heath 13390 by: garbez Re: canoy plexi. 13389 by: JeboydF16.aol.com Epoxy Usage..?? 13391 by: Peter Johnson 13392 by: Mark Jones 13393 by: Mark Jones 13394 by: Bob Sauer Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine 13395 by: Serge Vidal Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:19:53 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> 2003 KR Gathering Dates Message-Id: <3DE55319.000006.01068@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_5TC912S0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_5TC9WCW0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_5TC9WCW0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Linda,=0D =0D I have been wanting to ask this, was the keg a secret? I thought that th= ere was one and I would liked to have had a couple, but I never saw it. I wo= uld like for us to let everyone know when it is available if we have one next year.=0D =0D Thanks for moving the date forward. I hope it helps.=0D =0D Sanding.. Sanding.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Monday, November 25, 2002 07:54:46 AM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> 2003 KR Gathering Dates=0D =0D To All:=0D =0D The 2003 KR Gathering dates are September 11 thru 14.=0D =0D We have checked with the airport, hotels and banquet people to ensure tha= t=0D moving the Gathering up one week would not cause a problem. Everything is= =0D set.=0D =0D Red Oak, Iowa - 2003 KR Gathering - Thursday, September 11 thru September= =0D 14.=0D =0D =0D Any questions or concerns please send me a separate email.=0D =0D The web site has been updated to reflect the dates. Plus, we have placed=0D the Financial Report online. Not to mention pictures of the 2002 Gatherin= g:=0D =0D http://www.krgathering.org=0D =0D =0D Linda=0D 2002 & 2003 KR Gathering Sec/Treas =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_5TC9WCW0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Linda,
 
I have been wanting to ask this, was the keg a secret?  I thoug= ht that there was one and I would liked to have had a couple, but I never= saw it.  I would like for us to let everyone know when it is a= vailable if we have one next year.
 
Thanks for moving the date forward.  I hope it helps.
 
Sanding.. Sanding.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Monday, Nove= mber 25, 2002 07:54:46 AM
Subject: KR> 20= 03 KR Gathering Dates
 
To All:

The 2003 KR Gathering dates are September= 11 thru 14.

We have checked with the airport, hotels and banquet = people to ensure that
moving the Gathering up one week would not cause= a problem. Everything is
set.

Red Oak, Iowa - 2003 KR Gatherin= g - Thursday, September 11 thru September
14.


Any questions= or concerns please send me a separate email.

The web site has bee= n updated to reflect the dates. Plus, we have placed
the Financial Rep= ort online. Not to mention pictures of the 2002 Gathering:

http://www.krgathering.org

Linda
2002 & 2003 KR Gathering Sec/Treas

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--------------Boundary-00=_5TC9WCW0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_5TC912S0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:42:25 -0600 To: From: "garbez" Subject: Re: KR> 2003 KR Gathering Dates Message-ID: <000b01c29687$d56c6f80$6b02fea9@netins.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C29655.7E5FF680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, The keg at the gathering was not a secret, we had it in the hanger along = the west wall. It was purchased by us and a donation cup was beside it. = Sorry if you missed it, we thought everyone that was interested was = aware. Mike Garbez, 2002 and 2003 Gathering Host ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C29655.7E5FF680-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:28:18 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Something cool for sanding Message-Id: <3DE55512.00000B.01068@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_67D9CJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_67D97TH0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_67D97TH0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I discovered the 3M sanding sponge. It is about 1/4 in thick and about 3= X4 in. If you get one of the thick sanding sponges from the hardware store that has grit on both sides, you can use the rough side of it placed on t= he smooth side of the 3M and it makes a great sander for those areas on your plane, if you have any, that are not flat enough for you to use the sandi= ng board. I am using the medium grit on the feather fill. I assume that is somewhere between 100 and 150.=0D =0D As soon as I finish this, I am going to put on the 6 coats of smooth prim= e and see what happens with that. I am planning on using on using 220 to s= and that down. I then have the primer for the paint and will put on a light coat of that and hit it with 400 before applying the paint. =0D =0D Thanks to Bobby Muse for sending me to PPG. At first I could not find it= , but it turned out that it was just up the street about 3 minutes from my house, and great prices. Urethane for $75 a gallon.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_67D97TH0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I discovered the 3M sanding sponge.  It is about 1/4 in thick a= nd about 3X4 in.  If you get one of the thick sanding sponges f= rom the hardware store that has grit on both sides, you can use the rough= side of it placed on the smooth side of the 3M and it makes a great sand= er for those areas on your plane, if you have any, that are not flat= enough for you to use the sanding board.  I am using the medium gri= t on the feather fill.  I assume that is somewhere between 100 and 1= 50.
 
As soon as I finish this, I am going to put on the 6 coats of smooth= prime and see what happens with that.  I am planning on using on us= ing 220 to sand that down.  I then have the primer for the paint and= will put on a light coat of that and hit it with 400 before applyin= g the paint. 
 
Thanks to Bobby Muse for sending me to PPG.  At first I could n= ot find it, but it turned out that it was just up the street about 3 minu= tes from my house, and great prices.  Urethane for $75 a gallon.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

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--------------Boundary-00=_67D97TH0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_67D9CJD0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:03:53 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Landing Gear Length Message-ID: <16c.17b8292a.2b16a959@cs.com> Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's landing gear? Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:08:19 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> Landing Gear Length Message-Id: I recall it is 24 inches, but that is because the ScotchPly material he buys is 24 inches wide. Some early gears were 30 inches and that is apparently better. The Grove and Rand-Robinson gears are both taller than Diehl. Bob > Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's >landing gear? > Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. > garykr2@cs.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:45:45 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Landing Gear Length Message-ID: <1c4.22b5d86.2b16b329@aol.com> In a message dated 11/27/02 4:18:39 PM Mountain Standard Time, GARYKR2@cs.com writes: << Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's landing gear? >> Gary, mine is 24" from the squared-off end to the tip of the angled end. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:26:14 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> Landing Gear Length Message-ID: <3DE570B6.9060800@earthlink.net> Mine is about 15" from the bottom of the leg to the bottom of the wing skin. I would guess about another 6-7" inside the wing. GARYKR2@cs.com wrote: > Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's >landing gear? > Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. > garykr2@cs.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:39:19 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> Landing Gear Length Message-ID: <001d01c2968f$bcd28c40$0101a8c0@pavilion> Gary the legs are 24" from the square end(wheel) to the tip of the angled end(bracket) . This comes in a 4'x8' sheet from 3m, and Dan will not cut them longer no matter how hard you try to persuade him.(although if they were 30" long , he would still not have waste) There is a "grain "direction to this stuff. It is horrendously expensive, I know, I tried to buy a sheet :-( . A word of caution, Do NOT try to increase ground clearance by making leg angle steeper( The T.E.T. brackets for example) Dan Deihl, My EAA. tech advisor, and my structural engineer all said it will make the leg too stiff, and possibly overstress the spar. I am going to make slightly longer axle brackets(1 1/2") to get my landing attitude correct. If you are using the taller spar, and want to use the larger bracket, I will have some sets made of 4130. The man you really need to talk to is Dan Diehl. He is a super nice guy, and can answer all your questions. Hope this helps, Jim--- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: KR> Landing Gear Length > Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's > landing gear? > Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown, Pa. > garykr2@cs.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:26:03 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Landing Gear Length Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021128072603.00896e30@mail.midwest.net> > Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's >landing gear? > Gary Hinkle (A/P) >--------------------------------------------------------------------- As the other posts indicated, the length of the Diehl gear is 24". The only two sets of 30" legs that I'm aware of belong to me and Jeff Scott. I reinforced mine with an extra 1/8" of glass. I believe Jeff is using his "stock" and has probably several hundred hours on his KR with no problem but I don't believe you will get a set from Dan any more. With my 24" inch fuselage stretch and a large tail wheel I needed the extra length to get the right three point attitude. A longer leg on the bottom attach bracket could help to get the nose a bit higher on the ground. If I went that route I'd make the leg that attaches to the axle longer and not the one that attaches to the bottom of the leg. That should give you more height without putting more stress on the leg. I believe Mark Langford is going that route. Check out his site. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 07:41:38 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Landing Gear Length Message-Id: <3DE78AB2.000004.01096@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_EXGCBHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_FXGC6RO0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_FXGC6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you who want a longer gear, why don't you use something like= a Grove. I promise you that you will have a far easier installation and yo= u can get exactly what you want.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, November 28, 2002 05:33:06 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> Landing Gear Length=0D =0D > Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear leg for Dan Diehl's= =0D >landing gear?=0D > Gary Hinkle (A/P) =0D >---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D =0D As the other posts indicated, the length of the Diehl gear=0D is 24". The only two sets of 30" legs that I'm aware of=0D belong to me and Jeff Scott. I reinforced mine with an=0D extra 1/8" of glass. I believe Jeff is using his "stock" and=0D has probably several hundred hours on his KR with no=0D problem but I don't believe you will get a set from Dan=0D any more. With my 24" inch fuselage stretch and a large=0D tail wheel I needed the extra length to get the right three =0D point attitude. A longer leg on the bottom attach bracket =0D could help to get the nose a bit higher on the ground. If=0D I went that route I'd make the leg that attaches to the axle=0D longer and not the one that attaches to the bottom of the leg.=0D That should give you more height without putting more stress=0D on the leg. I believe Mark Langford is going that route. Check =0D out his site.=0D =0D Larry Flesner=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_FXGC6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those of you who want a longer gear, why don't you use something= like a Grove.  I promise you that you will have a far eas= ier installation and you can get exactly what you want.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, No= vember 28, 2002 05:33:06 AM
Subject: KR> La= nding Gear Length
 
> Does anybody have the length of the fiberglass gear= leg for Dan Diehl's
>landing gear?
> Gary Hinkle (A/P)
= >---------------------------------------------------------------------=

As the other posts indicated, the length of the Diehl gear
is = 24". The only two sets of 30" legs that I'm aware of
belong to me and = Jeff Scott. I reinforced mine with an
extra 1/8" of glass. I believe J= eff is using his "stock" and
has probably several hundred hours on his= KR with no
problem but I don't believe you will get a set from Danany more. With my 24" inch fuselage stretch and a large
tail wheel I = needed the extra length to get the right three
point attitude. A long= er leg on the bottom attach bracket
could help to get the nose a bit = higher on the ground. If
I went that route I'd make the leg that attac= hes to the axle
longer and not the one that attaches to the bottom of = the leg.
That should give you more height without putting more stress<= BR>on the leg. I believe Mark Langford is going that route. Check
out= his site.

Larry Flesner



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--------------Boundary-00=_FXGC6RO0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_EXGCBHK0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 06:10:44 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Mike Garbez Message-Id: <3DE623E4.00000E.01068@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_W1IAXFP0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_W1IASPT1VA4000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_W1IASPT1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,=0D =0D Thanks, I should have asked. =0D I am really interested to know how your new engine is doing. =0D Did lowering the fuel pressure work? =0D And most important, are you flying yet?=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 06:11:14 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> 2003 KR Gathering Dates=0D =0D Dan,=0D =0D The keg at the gathering was not a secret, we had it in the hanger along = the west wall. It was purchased by us and a donation cup was beside it. Sorry= if you missed it, we thought everyone that was interested was aware.=0D =0D Mike Garbez, 2002 and 2003 Gathering Host --------------Boundary-00=_W1IASPT1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike,
 
Thanks, I should have asked. 
I am really interested to know how your new engine is doing.  <= /DIV>
Did lowering the fuel pressure work? 
And most important, are you flying yet?
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Wednesday, N= ovember 27, 2002 06:11:14 PM
Subject: Re: KR>= ; 2003 KR Gathering Dates
 
Dan,

The keg at the gathering was not a secret, w= e had it in the hanger along the west wall. It was purchased by us and a = donation cup was beside it. Sorry if you missed it, we thought everyone t= hat was interested was aware.

Mike Garbez, 2002 and 2003 Gathering= Host

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--------------Boundary-00=_W1IASPT1VA4000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_W1IAXFP0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:24:55 -0600 To: From: "garbez" Subject: Re: KR> Mike Garbez Message-ID: <001101c2975f$53295460$6b02fea9@netins.net> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2972C.FA486980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, My engine was removed from the aircraft after the gathering and placed = on a test stand to test the new rear drive. It is doing very well. We = do not have the testing done yet, so it is not on the plane right now. = Since it is getting to be winter here, it probably won't be back on the = plane until spring. I'm in no hurry now. I have already flown the = plane with the 1835 and it flies very well. I just have to get used to = the increase in power that the type 4 is producing. But that ought to = be a great bonus. =20 Mike Garbez 2002 -2003 KR Gathering Host ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Heath=20 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:10 AM Subject: Re: KR> Mike Garbez Mike, Thanks, I should have asked. =20 I am really interested to know how your new engine is doing. =20 Did lowering the fuel pressure work? =20 And most important, are you flying yet? =20 DanRH@KR-Builder.org See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic. See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG =20 -------Original Message------- From: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 06:11:14 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> 2003 KR Gathering Dates Dan, The keg at the gathering was not a secret, we had it in the = hanger along the west wall. It was purchased by us and a donation cup = was beside it. Sorry if you missed it, we thought everyone that was = interested was aware. Mike Garbez, 2002 and 2003 Gathering Host =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2972C.FA486980-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:26:14 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: JeboydF16@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> canoy plexi. Message-ID: Thanks for the help. Got it cut and fitted just fine using my Dremel tool. Just waiting for warmer Wx to glass it in. Shotgun ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:51:46 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Epoxy Usage..?? Message-ID: <001001c2976b$7e3829e0$82a5e2d1@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C29728.58CCD4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A question to the group if I may... How much epoxy have you all used for the work you've done to date? I've got all the wood work complete, and the turtledeck, canopy framing = and foredeck is almost complete. I've yet to begin installing foam on = the wings, tailfeathers etc., and I've just ordered my FIFTH gallon of = epoxy! (No, I'm not trying to refinish the shop floor with it..) True, there's probably a gallon total remaining between the Aeropoxy and = T-88, but FIVE gallons??!! Could anyone recall how much epoxy you used to cloth the wings and = tailfeathers? Thanks in advance. Peter Johnson KR-2S Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C29728.58CCD4A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:12:23 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? Message-ID: <006a01c2975d$85214ce0$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> Sounds as if I am a little ahead of you on the building and so far I have used 2.25 quarts of T-88 and 2 gallons of Aeropoxy, 2 quarts spar varnish and 1 quart of Superfil. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Johnson" To: Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? A question to the group if I may... How much epoxy have you all used for the work you've done to date? I've got all the wood work complete, and the turtledeck, canopy framing and foredeck is almost complete. I've yet to begin installing foam on the wings, tailfeathers etc., and I've just ordered my FIFTH gallon of epoxy! (No, I'm not trying to refinish the shop floor with it..) True, there's probably a gallon total remaining between the Aeropoxy and T-88, but FIVE gallons??!! Could anyone recall how much epoxy you used to cloth the wings and tailfeathers? Thanks in advance. Peter Johnson KR-2S Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:15:20 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? Message-ID: <007301c2975d$ee48db20$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> Sorry, make that 2.75 gallons of Aeropoxy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? > Sounds as if I am a little ahead of you on the building and so far I have > used 2.25 quarts of T-88 and 2 gallons of Aeropoxy, 2 quarts spar varnish > and 1 quart of Superfil. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Johnson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:51 PM > Subject: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? > > > A question to the group if I may... > > How much epoxy have you all used for the work you've done to date? > > I've got all the wood work complete, and the turtledeck, canopy framing and > foredeck is almost complete. I've yet to begin installing foam on the > wings, tailfeathers etc., and I've just ordered my FIFTH gallon of epoxy! > (No, I'm not trying to refinish the shop floor with it..) > > True, there's probably a gallon total remaining between the Aeropoxy and > T-88, but FIVE gallons??!! > > Could anyone recall how much epoxy you used to cloth the wings and > tailfeathers? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Peter Johnson > KR-2S > Kenora, Ontario > > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:26:34 -0800 To: From: "Bob Sauer" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? Message-ID: <000f01c2975f$81c42d40$2596bbd0@home> I have finished all glass work and used a total of 4\1/2 gallons. I have enough left to make filler. Bob Las Vegas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:11:28 +0200 To: From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: <000c01c2978f$ff2d94d0$e100a8c0@sergevidal12> ZS-WEC, my trusted KR2, has passed her second annual inspection under my ownership. She now has 380 hours on the clock, flown over 8 years. I flew nearly 100 hours in two years. Not too bad, considering that it took me 8 months to fly the first 15 hours, 'cause I could not get hold of the instructor! During these two years, I have rebuilt about everything I can thik of on that plane, the next big step being the engine. The current engine is a VW Type 4, with dual electronic ignition, and it runs like clockwork, like it did for the past 380 hours. So, will you ask, why change it? Well, first of all, I happen to live in Johannesburg, with an airfield altitude of 5500', and the country is blessed with good weather, so density altitudes can often exceed 9000'! So, there is not much left up here of the theoretical 65hp of the 2 liter Type 4 engine! Second, the previous owner optimized the prop for speed at sea level, so here, the engine battles to turn the prop. Actually, I never managed to get more than 3050 RPM. Yes, I know I could change the prop. I actuall did once, 'cause it was broken, but I put back an exact replica. Don't ask me why. In summer, my climb rate does not exceed 150fpm, and I don't dare fly with two people on board. Third, the engine is now a bit weak, the compressions have dropped a bit. Yes, I know that's easy to fix, but... Can't you guys understand that I really want a new engine?? ;- ) I now have a brand new, beautiful Type 4 , 2.4 liter sitting idle in my garage. That should give me at least 80 hp instead of the current 65. I intend to keep the same prop, and see how it goes. The plan was to change only the engine, but nothing ever works according to plan. This one will have dual spark plugs, so I have to modify the electronic ignition accordingly: 4 coils instead of 2, and of course, a new bracket for the coils. Of course, the bafflings have to be modified to accept the second spark plug. Then, the current engine has a fuel pump, the new one does not. S,o I have to install an electric pump for take-off and landing (and hope that the gravity-feed will work). This means modifying the instrument panel, and doing some wiring. Also, the engine is larger by only 12mm (that's 1/2 inch for those of you who still count in dead king's body parts), so guess what? The cowlings will not fit. And I forgot to mention the biggest hassle: since the propeller hub is of a different diameter, I have to redo the front ignition! Let me explain that one. My solid state ignition systems come straight from Honda motorcycles. I have one mounted at the rear end of the crankshaft, and one mounted at the front end (propeller hub). Now, the one at the back is exactly as it was on the bike: complete with the centrifugal advance-retard mechanism, and magnetic pick-ups. The one at the font is salvaged: the two magnetic pick-ups are re-installed on a support plate. The magnetic "top" is fixed, non adjustable; it is given by a grubscrew that is screwed to the propeller hub. It should fire at 25 degrees before top dead center, but since the magnetic mass of the grubscrew is different from the one of the original rotor, well, one has to make an ignition jig, measure the offset, and then build the support plate accordingly. So, how far am I? - Bafflings: modified (but will need to be repainted sometimes) - Coils bracket: built, not installed yet; - Fuel pump: wiring done, pump not installed yet - Ignition support plate: template done - One nifty bracket done for the 8 spark plug leads (all spark plug holes are at the top) - Engine cowlings: not touched yet I make templates for all my sheet metal parts. These are made with Powerpoint. The templates for the coils bracket and the Type 4 engine front support plate are available on request. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************