From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 1 Dec 2002 17:19:50 -0000 Issue 560 Date: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:20 AM krnet Digest 1 Dec 2002 17:19:50 -0000 Issue 560 Topics (messages 13414 through 13443): Re: Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine 13414 by: Robert X. Cringely 13439 by: Waldokr2.aol.com 13441 by: Robert Stone Gravity Feed 13415 by: Eric Evezard 13433 by: Serge Vidal Caution!!! 13416 by: Mark Jones 13417 by: Frank Ross 13427 by: Ron Eason 13429 by: cartera 13434 by: Richard Parker 13440 by: gleone GPS's 13418 by: Scott Cable 13421 by: Deems Herring 13426 by: virgnvs.juno.com 13435 by: Richard Green 13438 by: Beverly Sins of the sander? 13419 by: Dan Heath 13420 by: Mark Langford 13425 by: Bob Sauer VW Engines 13422 by: joe spencer 13436 by: Gary Sprunger Character Map 13423 by: rfarmer 13430 by: Gary Ainsworth 13432 by: Mark Jones 13437 by: rfarmer Plane&Pilot 13424 by: Michael Clark 13428 by: Steve Glover RR Web site 13431 by: Edwin Blocher Landing gear Systems 13442 by: Robert Stone component source 13443 by: rfarmer Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 08:21:44 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-Id: It isn't the electric pump that is unreliable, it is the electrical system that drives the pump that is unreliable. If you can't add a mechanical pump, then you can't add a mechanical pump. But as I said in my previous post, a little extra redundancy won't hurt, that is unless you are supremely confident that gravity will do the job under all circumstances. Bob >Bob, >Good suggestion for solving a potential problem with the gravity flow, but I >would not install/attempt to install a mechanical pump, unless there was no >other choice. Today's versions of small, but durable electrical pumps far >exceed the reliability of the older mechanical that would have to be >installed in that engine. Also, he may not have the internal drive >mechanisms necessary for correct operation. Often the engine casting will >not be changed for economic reasons, but the internal parts are eliminated. >My 3.4 V6 is in the same family as the earlier 2.8V6, yet behind the fuel >pump boss is empty space. The electric pump will give greater flexibility in >location, plumbing, no modifications to the cowling, and if the location is >chosen well, easier maintenance access later. >Just some thoughts... >Colin > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert X. Cringely" >To: >Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:39 PM >Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine > > >> Interesting choices you have made there, Serge. I would suggest, >> though, that you consider installing a mechanical fuel pump. The >> boss for it is there, right? So it shouldn't be a big problem and >> certainly better than "hoping that the gravity feed will work." >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >ZS-WEC, my trusted KR2, has passed her second annual inspection under my >> >ownership. She now has 380 hours on the clock, flown over 8 years. I flew >> >nearly 100 hours in two years. Not too bad, considering that it took me 8 >> >months to fly the first 15 hours, 'cause I could not get hold of the >> >instructor! >> > >> >During these two years, I have rebuilt about everything I can thik of on >> >that plane, the next big step being the engine. >> >The current engine is a VW Type 4, with dual electronic ignition, and it >> >runs like clockwork, like it did for the past 380 hours. So, will you >ask, >> >why change it? >> >Well, first of all, I happen to live in Johannesburg, with an airfield >> >altitude of 5500', and the country is blessed with good weather, so >density >> >altitudes can often exceed 9000'! So, there is not much left up here of >the >> >theoretical 65hp of the 2 liter Type 4 engine! >> >Second, the previous owner optimized the prop for speed at sea level, so >> >here, the engine battles to turn the prop. Actually, I never managed to >get >> >more than 3050 RPM. Yes, I know I could change the prop. I actuall did >once, >> >'cause it was broken, but I put back an exact replica. Don't ask me why. >In >> >summer, my climb rate does not exceed 150fpm, and I don't dare fly with >two >> >people on board. >> >Third, the engine is now a bit weak, the compressions have dropped a bit. >> >Yes, I know that's easy to fix, but... >> > >> >Can't you guys understand that I really want a new engine?? ;- ) >> > >> >I now have a brand new, beautiful Type 4 , 2.4 liter sitting idle in my >> >garage. That should give me at least 80 hp instead of the current 65. I >> >intend to keep the same prop, and see how it goes. >> > >> >The plan was to change only the engine, but nothing ever works according >to >> >plan. This one will have dual spark plugs, so I have to modify the >> >electronic ignition accordingly: 4 coils instead of 2, and of course, a >new >> >bracket for the coils. Of course, the bafflings have to be modified to >> >accept the second spark plug. >> >Then, the current engine has a fuel pump, the new one does not. S,o I >have >> >to install an electric pump for take-off and landing (and hope that the >> >gravity-feed will work). This means modifying the instrument panel, and > > >doing some wiring. Also, the engine is larger by only 12mm (that's 1/2 >inch >> >for those of you who still count in dead king's body parts), so guess >what? >> >The cowlings will not fit. And I forgot to mention the biggest hassle: >since >> >the propeller hub is of a different diameter, I have to redo the front >> >ignition! >> > >> >Let me explain that one. My solid state ignition systems come straight >from >> >Honda motorcycles. I have one mounted at the rear end of the crankshaft, >and >> >one mounted at the front end (propeller hub). Now, the one at the back is >> >exactly as it was on the bike: complete with the centrifugal >advance-retard >> >mechanism, and magnetic pick-ups. The one at the font is salvaged: the >two >> >magnetic pick-ups are re-installed on a support plate. The magnetic "top" >is >> >fixed, non adjustable; it is given by a grubscrew that is screwed to the >> >propeller hub. It should fire at 25 degrees before top dead center, but >> >since the magnetic mass of the grubscrew is different from the one of the >> >original rotor, well, one has to make an ignition jig, measure the >offset, >> >and then build the support plate accordingly. >> > >> >So, how far am I? >> >- Bafflings: modified (but will need to be repainted sometimes) >> >- Coils bracket: built, not installed yet; >> >- Fuel pump: wiring done, pump not installed yet >> >- Ignition support plate: template done >> >- One nifty bracket done for the 8 spark plug leads (all spark plug holes >> >are at the top) >> >- Engine cowlings: not touched yet >> > >> >I make templates for all my sheet metal parts. These are made with >> >Powerpoint. The templates for the coils bracket and the Type 4 engine >front >> >support plate are available on request. >> > >> >Serge Vidal >> >KR2 ZS-WEC >> >Johannesburg, South Africa >> > >> > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> > >> >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> > >> >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> >> -- >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:39:32 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Waldokr2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: --part1_d3.15c4e8f4.2b1b8734_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_d3.15c4e8f4.2b1b8734_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:36:30 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: <000b01c29957$cdcf13e0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:39 AM Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:01:04 +0200 To: "KR MAIL" From: "Eric Evezard" Subject: Gravity Feed Message-ID: <004401c29892$30627040$3cce07c4@erick> ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C298A2.D4FA69E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Netters, Serge I suggest you contact your local AMO / AME /Approved Person about = gravity feed .If I remember correctly, at one time the S.African = Authorities,would not accept gravity feed.This may have changed but it = is worth checking. Best Regards, Eric Evezard, South Africa. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C298A2.D4FA69E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:39:52 +0200 To: From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: RE: KR> Gravity Feed Message-ID: <000e01c2991c$3d27d5b0$310027c4@sergevidal12> Eric, Do you mean that the CAA would specifically forbid gravity feed on the KR2? Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Eric Evezard [mailto:bonzabay@netactive.co.za] Sent: 30 November 2002 19:01 To: KR MAIL Subject: KR> Gravity Feed Hi Netters, Serge I suggest you contact your local AMO / AME /Approved Person about gravity feed .If I remember correctly, at one time the S.African Authorities,would not accept gravity feed.This may have changed but it is worth checking. Best Regards, Eric Evezard, South Africa. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:51:15 -0600 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Caution!!! Message-ID: <002a01c29899$14454f20$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C29866.C970E360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a word of caution here. Last night I was filling some gaps between = foam pieces with two part foam. I thought I had it dammed up good enough = not to drip. Well I poured the two part foam and then proceeded to crawl = under the plane to retrieve a tool. Just as I did this a glob of foam = fell right on the back of my head. Believe me this is not a pleasant = experience as the foam set up real quick. I am still trying to pick the = foam from my hair. I may wind up with a bald spot back there after all = is said and done. Be careful. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C29866.C970E360-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:58:17 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Caution!!! Message-ID: <20021130175817.71791.qmail@web40905.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Mark, I've got a bald spot I've been trying to blame on something... Hand-cleaning 'Goop' is good for getting sticky stuff out of hair and won't hurt anything. Don't know if it will work here though. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX --- Mark Jones wrote: >a glob of foam fell right > on the back of my head. ... > am still trying to pick the foam from my hair. I may > wind up with a bald spot back there after all is > said and done. Be careful. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:41:51 -0600 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Caution!!! Message-ID: <000e01c298da$d1ffcd10$5a631e41@Administration> I've had similar experiences because I didn't dam up pockets also, it looked good at the time, however this taught me to try a little at a time to dam up the dam. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: KR> Caution!!! Just a word of caution here. Last night I was filling some gaps between foam pieces with two part foam. I thought I had it dammed up good enough not to drip. Well I poured the two part foam and then proceeded to crawl under the plane to retrieve a tool. Just as I did this a glob of foam fell right on the back of my head. Believe me this is not a pleasant experience as the foam set up real quick. I am still trying to pick the foam from my hair. I may wind up with a bald spot back there after all is said and done. Be careful. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:13:39 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: cartera Subject: Re: KR> Caution!!! Message-ID: <3DE90DE3.BC85D741@cuug.ab.ca> Hello Gang, Always admire a man who uses his head ;). Think how lucky you are that you were not looking up, you would now be blind. SAFETY is always paramount! Happy building and flying! Mark Jones wrote: > > Just a word of caution here. Last night I was filling some gaps between foam pieces with two part foam. I thought I had it dammed up good enough not to drip. Well I poured the two part foam and then proceeded to crawl under the plane to retrieve a tool. Just as I did this a glob of foam fell right on the back of my head. Believe me this is not a pleasant experience as the foam set up real quick. I am still trying to pick the foam from my hair. I may wind up with a bald spot back there after all is said and done. Be careful. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 11:42:54 +0000 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: Re: KR> Caution!!! Message-ID: Theres only 2 weeks between a good bad haircut and a good one. I've dont just about the same thing and keep a Wahl clipper in the cabinet. I'm currently running around with not a hair on my head longer than an eight of an inch. Rich Parker P'bro NH >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Jones" >To: "KR-Net" >Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:51 AM >Subject: KR> Caution!!! > > >Just a word of caution here. Last night I was filling some gaps between >foam >pieces with two part foam. I thought I had it dammed up good enough not to >drip. Well I poured the two part foam and then proceeded to crawl under the >plane to retrieve a tool. Just as I did this a glob of foam fell right on >the back of my head. Believe me this is not a pleasant experience as the >foam set up real quick. I am still trying to pick the foam from my hair. I >may wind up with a bald spot back there after all is said and done. Be >careful. > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Wales, WI USA >E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 08:45:51 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> Caution!!! Message-ID: <3DEA2EAF.E4DD0336@tritel.net> Shave the spot and tell folks you're wondering what it was like to (a) be a monk, (b) experience "pattern baldness" or (c) you're trying to start a new styling trend. Richard Parker wrote: > Theres only 2 weeks between a good bad haircut and a good one. > I've dont just about the same thing and keep a Wahl clipper in the cabinet. > I'm currently running around with not a hair on my head longer than an eight > of an inch. > > Rich Parker > P'bro NH > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Jones" > >To: "KR-Net" > >Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:51 AM > >Subject: KR> Caution!!! > > > > > >Just a word of caution here. Last night I was filling some gaps between > >foam > >pieces with two part foam. I thought I had it dammed up good enough not to > >drip. Well I poured the two part foam and then proceeded to crawl under the > >plane to retrieve a tool. Just as I did this a glob of foam fell right on > >the back of my head. Believe me this is not a pleasant experience as the > >foam set up real quick. I am still trying to pick the foam from my hair. I > >may wind up with a bald spot back there after all is said and done. Be > >careful. > > > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) > >Wales, WI USA > >E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 12:04:13 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Scott Cable Subject: GPS's Message-ID: <20021130200413.35894.qmail@web40812.mail.yahoo.com> Netters, I have a question regarding GPS's. Let me first state the obvious: I know nothing about them. My question relates to what is the difference between a GPS system for a boat, and a GPS for an Airplane? Can a nautical system be used for aeronautical purposes? The reason I'm asking is that whileI was at a local boat shop, the salesman showed me a bunch of GPS units, both hand held and panel mounted that are on sale. Seemed like a pretty good buy. (was $1200 on sale for $349) Chips are about $200 for a couple of different models, so couldn't I swap out the chip to convert it to aviation use? What makes a "good" GPS vs a "bad" GPS? What features should I look for want? Is there any recommendations for a particular model/brand? ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Livonia, MI (734) 254-5527 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:47:19 -0600 To: From: "Deems Herring" Subject: Re: KR> GPS's Message-ID: <001401c298ba$0e93ee30$6402a8c0@gloriahome> I have a Coast Guard Captains License and use both marine and Aviation GPS a lot. The difference is basically software and possibly certification. The software differences are in two parts. First is the database and second is the function keys. If you can find an aviation database to put in a marine GPS it would probably be quite expensive because these databases are proprietary and get updated just like sectionals. This database is usually the major reason for the extra cost of aviation GPS. Most Aviation GPS these days have function keys which will do things like one button to give you distance and direction to the nearest airport in an emergency. If you planned to use your GPS in a limited area you could manually program things like airports and waypoints into a marine GPS and it will give you all your distance course and ground speed information the same as any other GPS. Of course a marine GPS would not be acceptable to the FAA for IFR use. The bottom line is that if you just want speed, dirction and altitude information and you manually enter you waypoints the marine unit will work. If you want to be able to locate the nearest airport, find the minimum safe altitude in the area or use it for IFR then it is simpler and no more expensive to get an aviation GPS. Deems Herring ballross@wiktel.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Cable" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: KR> GPS's > Netters, > I have a question regarding GPS's. Let me first state > the obvious: I know nothing about them. > My question relates to what is the difference between > a GPS system for a boat, and a GPS for an Airplane? > Can a nautical system be used for aeronautical > purposes? > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:16:35 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> GPS's Message-ID: <20021130.194959.-333651.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Watch the speed range. some only good for 100 MPH, Virg On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 12:04:13 -0800 (PST) Scott Cable writes: > Netters, > I have a question regarding GPS's. Let me first state > the obvious: I know nothing about them. > My question relates to what is the difference between > a GPS system for a boat, and a GPS for an Airplane? > Can a nautical system be used for aeronautical > purposes? > The reason I'm asking is that whileI was at a local > boat shop, the salesman showed me a bunch of GPS > units, both hand held and panel mounted that are on > sale. Seemed like a pretty good buy. (was $1200 on > sale for $349) Chips are about $200 for a couple of > different models, so couldn't I swap out the chip to > convert it to aviation use? > What makes a "good" GPS vs a "bad" GPS? > What features should I look for want? > Is there any recommendations for a particular model/brand? > > ===== > Scott Cable > KR-2S # 735 > Livonia, MI > (734) 254-5527 > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:19:32 -0600 To: From: "Richard Green" Subject: RE: KR> GPS's Message-ID: If your looking for a handheld, I just bought the new Garmin 196 Aviation unit and I like it a lot. http://www.garmin.com/ Has a lot of info in the DB, including runway extensions, Instrument approaches (not legal for IFR, but they are there), obstacle height, all the airport info, vors, fixes, U name it and it is loaded in that little unit...Hard to believe they can get so much info into such a small package. U can also get a street or marine DB for it. RG -----Original Message----- From: Deems Herring [mailto:ballross@wiktel.com] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 3:47 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> GPS's I have a Coast Guard Captains License and use both marine and Aviation GPS a lot. The difference is basically software and possibly certification. The software differences are in two parts. First is the database and second is the function keys. If you can find an aviation database to put in a marine GPS it would probably be quite expensive because these databases are proprietary and get updated just like sectionals. This database is usually the major reason for the extra cost of aviation GPS. Most Aviation GPS these days have function keys which will do things like one button to give you distance and direction to the nearest airport in an emergency. If you planned to use your GPS in a limited area you could manually program things like airports and waypoints into a marine GPS and it will give you all your distance course and ground speed information the same as any other GPS. Of course a marine GPS would not be acceptable to the FAA for IFR use. The bottom line is that if you just want speed, dirction and altitude information and you manually enter you waypoints the marine unit will work. If you want to be able to locate the nearest airport, find the minimum safe altitude in the area or use it for IFR then it is simpler and no more expensive to get an aviation GPS. Deems Herring ballross@wiktel.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Cable" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: KR> GPS's > Netters, > I have a question regarding GPS's. Let me first state > the obvious: I know nothing about them. > My question relates to what is the difference between > a GPS system for a boat, and a GPS for an Airplane? > Can a nautical system be used for aeronautical > purposes? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:30:39 -0500 To: From: "Beverly" Subject: Re: KR> GPS's Message-ID: <001801c2994e$9ae939f0$708b2141@Beverly> Also Scott, Along the comments already here, each GPS is certified for its intended use; ie: it will have a placard or notice pasted on it stating it is for day VFR, or VFR use only, sometimes for the lesser expensive ones, not for use as primary navigation aid. Most certified for IFR and primary navigation are panel mounted, and much more expensive. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Cable" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: KR> GPS's > Netters, > I have a question regarding GPS's. Let me first state > the obvious: I know nothing about them. > My question relates to what is the difference between > a GPS system for a boat, and a GPS for an Airplane? > Can a nautical system be used for aeronautical > purposes? > The reason I'm asking is that whileI was at a local > boat shop, the salesman showed me a bunch of GPS > units, both hand held and panel mounted that are on > sale. Seemed like a pretty good buy. (was $1200 on > sale for $349) Chips are about $200 for a couple of > different models, so couldn't I swap out the chip to > convert it to aviation use? > What makes a "good" GPS vs a "bad" GPS? > What features should I look for want? > Is there any recommendations for a particular model/brand? > > ===== > Scott Cable > KR-2S # 735 > Livonia, MI > (734) 254-5527 > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:16:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Sins of the sander? Message-Id: <3DE946B1.000003.01096@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_PMWEG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_QMWEBHK0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_QMWEBHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone who has applied and sanded smooth prime, have a feel for how many sins it will cover? I am getting close to applying it and do not wa= nt to over do the sanding of the material that is on there now. =0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_QMWEBHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_QMWEBHK0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_PMWEG6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:30:12 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Sins of the sander? Message-ID: <078d01c298af$48f1cc60$0100a8c0@TD310> ------=_NextPart_000_0788_01C2987C.FDEF72D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Heath wrote: >>Does anyone who has applied and sanded smooth prime, have a feel = for how many sins it will cover? I am getting close to applying it and = do not want to over do the sanding of the material that is on there now. = <<=20 From a sanding scratch standpoint, it'll cover just about anything. = With regards to how deep a low place it will cover, I wouldn't count on = it doing much there. It's dependent upon how thick your coat of Smooth = Prime is, with relation to how deep your low place is, obviously. I'm = sure you already know that it's not a good idea to hide that kind of = stuff with primer, because you'll end up spending a lot of money on = primer (and adding a lot of unnecessary weight) trying to do that. But = it hides little holes and pinholes and scratches very well. I'm sanding my urethane primer again, and when I bring it back in I'm = going to call it "done enough" and flip it over... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_0788_01C2987C.FDEF72D0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 14:31:38 -0800 To: From: "Bob Sauer" Subject: Re: KR> Sins of the sander? Message-ID: <001201c298cc$8851ae80$0896bbd0@home> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2987D.31648380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, I used Smooth Prime after having sanded with 40 grit. Six coats cover = very rough surfaces nicely. Bob=20 Las Vegas ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2987D.31648380-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:55:17 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: joe spencer Subject: VW Engines Message-id: <002f01c298c3$8e048220$359b90cf@computer> Is there any one in KR land that has a VW engine of about 80 Hp that they have removed for a Corvair installation?? I am in the need for one for my plane Thanks Joe Spencer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 07:09:30 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Gary Sprunger" Subject: Re: KR> VW Engines Message-ID: I have a 1835CC, firewall forward, prop and cowling. Don't know HP. G_Sprunger msn.com Located in Colorado From: joe spencer Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> VW Engines Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:55:17 -0600 Is there any one in KR land that has a VW engine of about 80 Hp that they have removed for a Corvair installation?? I am in the need for one for my plane Thanks Joe Spencer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 17:34:46 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: Character Map Message-ID: <004801c298c0$f926af40$f15b62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C29896.C6D29100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sometimes I need things in documents that are not on the keyboard such = as ( =B1 ) but I don't use them often enough to commit them to memory, = so I have made myself a list. I taped mine to the monitor. You can find = these under Program Files - Accessories - Character Map. Just hold down = the Alt Key and type the number with the No. keypad (the one on the = right). When you release the Alt the symbol will show up. Here are some = of the ones I use most often but there are others. Just FYI. ALT+0176 =3D =B0 could be used like this 87=B0 F ALT+0177=3D =B1 =B1 .002 ALT+0178=3D =B2 12=B2 =3D 144 ALT+0188 =3D =BC ALT+0189 =3D =BD ALT+0190 =3D =BE ALT+0247 =3D =F7 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C29896.C6D29100-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:19:58 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Gary Ainsworth Subject: Re: KR> Character Map Message-ID: At Saturday, 30 November 2002, you wrote: >Sometimes I need things in documents that are not on the keyboard such >as ( ± ) ...... > >ALT+0176 = ° could be used like this 87° F > Neat stuff but couldn't find character map in Accessories (Win 98) the formula for MAC= 2/3 x root chord x (1+L+L^2) x (1+L) (KR Newsletter) can now be MAC= 2/3 root chord(1+L+LČ)(1+L) (couldn't get the 2/3) .... I think I can do this! Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:31:57 -0600 To: , From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Character Map Message-ID: <004301c298f2$956f4480$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> In Windows 98, Go to: Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Ainsworth" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: Re: KR> Character Map > At Saturday, 30 November 2002, you wrote: > > >Sometimes I need things in documents that are not on the keyboard such > >as ( ± ) ...... > > > >ALT+0176 = ° could be used like this 87° F > > > > Neat stuff but couldn't find character map in Accessories (Win 98) > > the formula for MAC= 2/3 x root chord x (1+L+L^2) x (1+L) (KR Newsletter) > can now be MAC= 2/3 root chord(1+L+LČ)(1+L) (couldn't get the 2/3) > .... I think I can do this! Gary > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 09:40:08 -0500 To: , From: "Bob Farmer" Subject: Re: KR> Character Map Message-ID: <002a01c29947$8cbfc120$315f62d8@oemcomputer> OOPS! That should have been Programs-Accessories-System Tools-Character Map....I should have known better than post something from memory. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Ainsworth" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: KR> Character Map > At Saturday, 30 November 2002, you wrote: > > >Sometimes I need things in documents that are not on the keyboard such > >as ( ± ) ...... > > > >ALT+0176 = ° could be used like this 87° F > > > > Neat stuff but couldn't find character map in Accessories (Win 98) > > the formula for MAC= 2/3 x root chord x (1+L+L^2) x (1+L) (KR Newsletter) > can now be MAC= 2/3 root chord(1+L+LČ)(1+L) (couldn't get the 2/3) > .... I think I can do this! Gary > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:41:14 -0800 To: "krnet" From: "Michael Clark" Subject: Plane&Pilot Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2988F.4CC947C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Plane and Pilot magazine has a buy one/get one free subscription. If = anyone is interested, contact me direct and you can have the free = subscription =20 Mike = Clark ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2988F.4CC947C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 17:39:36 -0800 To: From: "Steve Glover" Subject: Re: KR> Plane&Pilot Message-ID: <001d01c298da$81b8f570$c18afea9@IntelliSpec> If you haven't already been buried with requests, I would like it. I would be happy to pay half your subscription cost. Regards, Steve Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Clark" To: "krnet" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: KR> Plane&Pilot Plane and Pilot magazine has a buy one/get one free subscription. If anyone is interested, contact me direct and you can have the free subscription Mike Clark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:27:15 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: RR Web site Message-ID: <000b01c298f1$ee0c02a0$0201a8c0@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C298BF.A2C9B9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RR's site is working fine tonight. Try clicking on http://fly-kr.com=20 ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C298BF.A2C9B9E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:18:40 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Landing gear Systems Message-ID: <000a01c2995d$b1ecf560$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2992B.66FE9900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, Does anyone know if there is a tri-gear system available for the = KR-1. Or can the tri-gear systems available for the KR-2 and 2S be used = on the KR-1 Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2992B.66FE9900-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:10:34 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "rfarmer" Subject: component source Message-ID: <000c01c2995c$907ac0c0$575e62d8@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C29932.A6B094C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Need something? Look here. http://www.industrialquicksearch.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C29932.A6B094C0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************