From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 6 Dec 2002 10:52:54 -0000 Issue 565 Date: Friday, December 06, 2002 2:53 AM krnet Digest 6 Dec 2002 10:52:54 -0000 Issue 565 Topics (messages 13547 through 13566): Re: Landing gear Question? 13547 by: Steve 13550 by: Dan Heath 13552 by: virgnvs.juno.com Re: 13548 by: Phillip Matheson Wrong button 13549 by: Phillip Matheson Re: GPS's 13551 by: Dan Heath KROnline 13553 by: Mark Langford 13554 by: David Mullins 13556 by: djlinin.positech.net 13559 by: Mark Langford 13560 by: Mark Jones Re: Heavery Elevator/ Deihl Wing Skins/ V/Ester Resin 13555 by: Phillip Matheson 13566 by: Dan Heath newsletter 13557 by: jim . synergy design 13564 by: Dan Heath Re: Index of Newsletters 13558 by: Randy Stambook I'd like to ask some basic questions 13561 by: Karl Kleimenhagen 13562 by: Ricky Farley Re: and I see the veterans here want to have the list used by those now building a KR. 13563 by: Dan Heath Corvair 13565 by: Danny Livingstone Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:44:27 -0600 To: From: "Steve" Subject: RE: KR> Landing gear Question? Message-ID: <000601c29c85$f584cde0$291e6344@om.cox.net> Ray I also like the Diehl gear but not at that price. ( I am kind of thrifty). I am taking a page out of the dragonfly plans and making a fiberglass bow for my KR2. The wheels will have a 72" width. And the best part is the glass and epoxy runs about $200. I am designing it for extra ground clearance and the weight should be around #22 with mounting brackets and axles. More work but less money and I get exactly the gear I want. If you want some more information let me know. I can post some more detail if you are interested. Steve Lemke Omaha, NE slemke@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: RCTRVLR@aol.com [mailto:RCTRVLR@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:40 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Landing gear Question? I am in the process of removing the retractable gear system from my KR2, now i have to decide if i want to install the Diehl trigear or not, I thought the gear was a little pricey for what you get, but the simplicity of just bolt on and fly (so to speak) does appeal to me greatly, so i probably will end up going with the Deihl gear, unless anybody has any info or ideas on an optional system. Oh ya, if anybody wants the retract system, minus tires and wheels, let me know and as soon as I get it out of the plane I will sent it to you, you just have to pay for shipping. Thanks Ray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:28:18 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear Question? Message-Id: <3DF01952.000001.01248@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_6NHOQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_7NHOLVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_7NHOLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, and I have two more retracts for you if you want to pay the shipping= =2E=0D =0D I think a much much much easier installation would be the Grove, or like, conventional gear. I have done both in conventional.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, December 05, 2002 07:41:12 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> Landing gear Question?=0D =0D I am in the process of removing the retractable gear system from my KR2, = =0D now i have to decide if i want to install the Diehl trigear or not, I thought =0D the gear was a little pricey for what you get, but the simplicity of just= =0D bolt on and fly (so to speak) does appeal to me greatly, so i probably wi= ll =0D end up going with the Deihl gear, unless anybody has any info or ideas on= an =0D optional system. Oh ya, if anybody wants the retract system, minus tires = and =0D wheels, let me know and as soon as I get it out of the plane I will sent = it =0D to you, you just have to pay for shipping. Thanks=0D =0D Ray --------------Boundary-00=_7NHOLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, and I have two more retracts for you if you want to pay the shi= pping.
 
I think a much much much easier installation would be the Grove= , or like, conventional gear.  I have done both in conventional.
=  

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, De= cember 05, 2002 07:41:12 AM
Subject: KR> La= nding gear Question?
 
I am in the process of removing the retractable gear sys= tem from my KR2,
now i have to decide if i want to install the Diehl = trigear or not, I thought
the gear was a little pricey for what you g= et, but the simplicity of just
bolt on and fly (so to speak) does app= eal to me greatly, so i probably will
end up going with the Deihl gea= r, unless anybody has any info or ideas on an
optional system. Oh ya,= if anybody wants the retract system, minus tires and
wheels, let me = know and as soon as I get it out of the plane I will sent it
to you, = you just have to pay for shipping. Thanks

Ray

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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_7NHOLVC0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_6NHOQL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:11:20 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear Question? Message-ID: <20021205.202146.-345591.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Send to Virg. Will reimburse shipping costs. Thanks, Virg Virgil N. Salisbury 5445 S.W. 89th Place Miami, Fla 33165-6624 On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:40:07 EST RCTRVLR@aol.com writes: > I am in the process of removing the retractable gear system from > my KR2, > now i have to decide if i want to install the Diehl trigear or not, > I thought > the gear was a little pricey for what you get, but the simplicity of > just > bolt on and fly (so to speak) does appeal to me greatly, so i > probably will > end up going with the Deihl gear, unless anybody has any info or > ideas on an > optional system. Oh ya, if anybody wants the retract system, minus > tires and > wheels, let me know and as soon as I get it out of the plane I will > sent it > to you, you just have to pay for shipping. Thanks > > Ray > Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:30:26 +1100 To: , From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Message-ID: <002d01c29c9d$26b09360$8596dccb@Matheson> Phil, Nice to hear you are still checking on the KRnet. How are you. I've been very busy in my shed. I have now removed the Ribs and Spars from one of the Diehl wings ,as one wing had a 3/4" shorter leading edge than the other., BOY that was fun. I had to remove the Ribs from both , because the wash out was not correct., But so far only removed the Spars from one wing. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ > f ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:34:17 +1100 To: "KR Net Listings" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Wrong button Message-ID: <003801c29c9d$b0311380$8596dccb@Matheson> ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C29CF9.E27B0CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for my last post with out a subject,=20 BUT I forgot about the F @@#$%%&*@ reply button, that goes to = everyone. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at:=20 http://www.vw-engines.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C29CF9.E27B0CE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:37:15 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> GPS's Message-Id: <3DF01B6B.000004.01248@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_32IOBHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_42IO6RO0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_42IO6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I checked with them on the total cost. If you don't already have a PDA, = it will cost you about $700. It looks like a good system and that is about what the Garmin 195 ??? will cost.=0D =0D It might be a good deal. I would like to know if anyone tries it and how you like it.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 01:17:08 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org; rossy65@attbi.com=0D Subject: RE: KR> GPS's=0D =0D One of the GPS Items you might consider is NavGPS it installs on a=0D pocket PC with moving map and most of the bells and whistles. See=0D http://www.gonavgps.com/navgpspro.shtml It is $175 plus the pocket PC.=0D They even have a version that works with PC Flight systems gyro panel=0D that uses solid state systems to generate gyro heading and attitude=0D displays you can see that at http://www.pcflightsystems.com/index.htm=0D =0D Deems Herring, Baudette Minnesota=0D mailto:ballross@wiktel.com=0D =0D =0D -- Ross=0D =0D =0D 12/1/2002 4:21:08 PM, "Ron Eason" wrote:=0D =0D >Has anyone had any experience with the Gamin 190 GPS/COM Handheld? They=0D =0D >seem to be a rare unit, hard to find.=0D >=0D >Ron=0D >=0D >=0D >---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D >=0D =0D ---=0D Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.=0D Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).=0D Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_42IO6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I checked with them on the total cost.  If you d= on't already have a PDA, it will cost you about $700.  It looks like= a good system and that is about what the Garmin 195 ??? will cost.<= /DIV>
 
It might be a good deal.  I would like to know if any= one tries it and how you like it.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Wednesday, D= ecember 04, 2002 01:17:08 PM
Subject: RE: KR>= ; GPS's
 
One of the GPS Items you might consider is NavGPS it ins= talls on a
pocket PC with moving map and most of the bells and whistle= s. See
http://www.= gonavgps.com/navgpspro.shtml It is $175 plus the pocket PC.
They e= ven have a version that works with PC Flight systems gyro panel
that u= ses solid state systems to generate gyro heading and attitude
displays= you can see that at http://www.pcflightsystems.com/index.htm

Deems Herring, Baude= tte Minnesota
mailto:ballross@w= iktel.com


-- Ross


12/1/2002 4:21:08 PM, "Ron Ea= son" <ron@jrl-engineering.c= om> wrote:

>Has anyone had any experience with the Gamin= 190 GPS/COM Handheld? They

>seem to be a rare unit, hard to fi= nd.
>
>Ron
>
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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_42IO6RO0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_32IOBHK0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:05:23 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KROnline Message-ID: <018301c29cd4$518ab5c0$0a00a8c0@800Athlon> Larry Capps wrote: > For those not aware - due to the lack of a subscriber base (70ish people) - > we have decided not to continue publication of the KR Newsletter. OK, NetHeads, here's our opportunity to keep the Newsletter alive, but this time we'll do it electronically, and make it more valuable than ever! Below is something I wrote August 10th. I'm going to throw it out there again, so all you guys who hate to see the KR Newsletter die will now have an avenue through which to channel your energy! If the part about mailing out snailmail copies bothers the new "editor", we can ditch that part if we have to. We could even make the editor position a revolving thing so no one person would get "stuck" forever with the job. After my plane is built, I'll probably volunteer to do it myself. The important thing is that somebody step up the plate and play editor, and that the rest of us NetHeads contribute articles every month to share the knowledge that many of us have gained over the years. KRnet has a reputation of being one of the most informative homebuilt lists on the web, and revitalizing KROnline would help to put that knowledge all in one place for us all to learn from. So I repeat below what I said a few months ago, and propose that we start with a January 2003 issue... -------------------- KRnetHeads, I don't blame Larry one bit for giving up on the Newsletter. The simple facts are that the subscriptions have dwindled over the years, mainly due to KRnet, and they would continue to dwindle until there's nothing left, and no reason to go on. I think we're there now. I just hope he sells enough CDs of the back issues to reimburse him for the cost of saving the Newsletter from the clutches of the EAA for us. With Larry's permission, we could continue to publish the KR Newsletter, electronically, somewhat like the KROnline that we did back before Monte took over the Newsletter several years ago (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kro12_96.html for an example). These are about half way down the page at http://www.krnet.org/ . The newsletter would continue, but electronically, free, and online! We could do it in something like PDF format, and if we keep it down to 7 pages, we could still mail it out to "snailmail" subscribers of the Newsletter. Whoever volunteered to take on this job would merely have to print it out and mail them to subscribers, and collect the subscription fees for their trouble. As long as we keep the pipeline full of good articles and a completed Newsletter every month, somebody would have a cushy job on their hands that would probably buy a little beer every month. Larry may want to volunteer for that job himself, for all I know. The editor and the "mailer" could even be two different people, or it could rotate around somewhat. The mailing list should drop considerably from 210 since many of us are also on the web, and would prefer the color electronic version to a black and white snailmail version. If nothing else, the change would announce to the subscribers about the benefits of KRnet, and encourage many of them to get online. Others for which internet access is too expensive (like many overseas countries) could enjoy the benefits of sharing our knowledge of KR flying and building. These future articles could become a new form of FAQ for us too. Be prepared to volunteer if you jump on the bandwagen. We'll need an editor too. What do y'all think? We can keep this thing going if we want to... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:19:04 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: David Mullins Subject: Re: KR> KROnline Message-ID: <3DF01728.C9A212E0@attbi.com> Mark I will be the first to volunteer to put some articles together. I have been my EAA Chapter's Newsletter editor for the past 4 years. Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire > Be prepared to volunteer if you jump on the bandwagen. We'll need an > editor too. What do y'all think? We can keep > this thing going if we want to... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 21:36:38 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: djlinin@positech.net Subject: KROnline Message-ID: <3DEFC6E6.8283.375AB20@localhost> Now that a couple of us have volunteered to write articles, to whom should we send them? I wrote directly to Mark, but perhaps someone else should be the recipient of our literary efforts, since Mark already does far more than any one man ought to be asked to do. I'm guessing that the editor ought to be someone with a reasonable fast computer and a good internet connection. A couple of hours per week ought to get the job done, shouldn't it? I did the church newsletter for several years, but that was a pretty simple print thing once a month. I'm working on a Pentium 75 with a dial-up connection that isn't always reliable, so I'm probably not a very good choice to be an editor. -- 73 David, KBOZKE kb0zke @ arrl.net EM37kt home, EM37jv school ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:53:03 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KROnline Message-ID: <0ab801c29cda$fa859fe0$0100a8c0@TD310> David wrote: > Now that a couple of us have volunteered to write articles, to whom > should we send them? I guess you might as well send them to me. If you guys do a sufficently good job formatting this stuff, "editing" will just be a matter of joining several pdf files together and taking credit for the amazing results. If we ditch the concept of keeping the snailmail guys abreast (and therefore not worrying about page breaks), editing would be just that easy! That sounds so easy I think I'll have to volunteer for the job myself, although that might be because I've had two beers tonight. You guys are showing some spirit here. Let's make this thing work and share some useful KR information! Show off your plane, or your good ideas, or your experience flying your KR. If the occasional mention of the nuts and bolts of this publication are too painful for the regulars, we could take this offline to another list. I just happen to have one already created named "TETnet" that's not doing much lately... Mark Langford, Huntsville Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:09:33 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KROnline Message-ID: <00e501c29cdd$486e7860$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> C'mon Langford....only two beers???????????? Count me in... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re: KR> KROnline > David wrote: > > > Now that a couple of us have volunteered to write articles, to whom > > should we send them? > > I guess you might as well send them to me. If you guys do a sufficently > good job formatting this stuff, "editing" will just be a matter of joining > several pdf files together and taking credit for the amazing results. If we > ditch the concept of keeping the snailmail guys abreast (and therefore not > worrying about page breaks), editing would be just that easy! That sounds > so easy I think I'll have to volunteer for the job myself, although that > might be because I've had two beers tonight. > > You guys are showing some spirit here. Let's make this thing work and share > some useful KR information! Show off your plane, or your good ideas, or > your experience flying your KR. > > If the occasional mention of the nuts and bolts of this publication are too > painful for the regulars, we could take this offline to another list. I > just happen to have one already created named "TETnet" that's not doing much > lately... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville Alabama > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:30:53 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Heavery Elevator/ Deihl Wing Skins/ V/Ester Resin Message-ID: <003301c29cd7$e2457660$2e96dccb@Matheson> ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C29D34.14DBBB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, I have not removed the H/S, because I'm concerned about damaging the = mounts, seeing it is glued as well as bolted. I have been very busy, My wings were half assembled when I got them, but now that I have = replaced all the WAF, because his were drilled out to fit, I have found = it has wash in instead of washout. I removed all the Diehl ribs, and resetting the washout and also found = that the Left wing has a 1 inch longer leading edge( from the spar to = the leading edge). The skin was not glued on in the correct place. I have now removed the spars from the Diehl lower skins, without any = damage to the skin, ( BOY that took some thinking) So as soon as I get some more Resin, I'll get to it Question. The Deil skins are made of V/Ester resin, Why can't I made the inner = skins and elevator from V/ester resin instead of epoxy. Anyone else has any comments, please go for it. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at:=20 http://www.vw-engines.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C29D34.14DBBB00-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:56:53 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Heavery Elevator/ Deihl Wing Skins/ V/Ester Resin Message-Id: <3DF0ACA5.00000A.01248@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_TQAPH890000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_UQAPCJD0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_UQAPCJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phil,=0D =0D You can make them out of anything you choose, but if you are talking abou= t making the center section wing stubs from foam and glass, I strongly recommend that you do not use vinyl ester. Reserve that for adding layer= s of glass to things that are already made using vinyl ester. Vinyl Ester = is a laminating resin. That is it's purpose in life. Therefore, it brings = a layer of goo to the top, for the next layer to adhere to. That layer of = goo is why you cannot sand it without gumming up your paper.=0D =0D Stay away from the Esters unless you need them. Use with one of the good epoxys like AeroPoxy.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, December 05, 2002 07:28:18 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> Heavery Elevator/ Deihl Wing Skins/ V/Ester Resin=0D =0D Dan,=0D =0D I have not removed the H/S, because I'm concerned about damaging the moun= ts, seeing it is glued as well as bolted.=0D =0D I have been very busy,=0D My wings were half assembled when I got them, but now that I have replace= d all the WAF, because his were drilled out to fit, I have found it has was= h in instead of washout.=0D I removed all the Diehl ribs, and resetting the washout and also found th= at the Left wing has a 1 inch longer leading edge( from the spar to the lead= ing edge). The skin was not glued on in the correct place.=0D I have now removed the spars from the Diehl lower skins, without any dama= ge to the skin, ( BOY that took some thinking)=0D =0D So as soon as I get some more Resin, I'll get to it=0D =0D Question.=0D =0D The Deil skins are made of V/Ester resin, Why can't I made the inner skin= s and elevator from V/ester resin instead of epoxy.=0D =0D Anyone else has any comments, please go for it.=0D =0D Phil Matheson=0D matheson@dodo.com.au=0D 61 3 58833588=0D See our engines at: =0D http://www.vw-engines.com/ --------------Boundary-00=_UQAPCJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Phil,
 
You can make them out of anything you choose, but if you are talking= about making the center section wing stubs from foam and glass, I s= trongly recommend that you do not use vinyl ester.  Reserve that for= adding layers of glass to things that are already made using vinyl ester= =2E  Vinyl Ester is a laminating resin.  That is it's purpose i= n life.  Therefore, it brings a layer of goo to the top, for the nex= t layer to adhere to.  That layer of goo is why you cannot sand= it without gumming up your paper.
 
Stay away from the Esters unless you need them.  Use with = one of the good epoxys like AeroPoxy.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, De= cember 05, 2002 07:28:18 PM
Subject: Re: KR>= ; Heavery Elevator/ Deihl Wing Skins/ V/Ester Resin
 
Dan,

I have not removed the H/S, because I'm conc= erned about damaging the mounts, seeing it is glued as well as bolted.
I have been very busy,
My wings were half assembled when I got th= em, but now that I have replaced all the WAF, because his were drilled ou= t to fit, I have found it has wash in instead of washout.
I removed al= l the Diehl ribs, and resetting the washout and also found that the Left = wing has a 1 inch longer leading edge( from the spar to the leading edge)= =2E The skin was not glued on in the correct place.
I have now removed= the spars from the Diehl lower skins, without any damage to the skin, ( = BOY that took some thinking)

So as soon as I get some more Resin, = I'll get to it

Question.

The Deil skins are made of V/Ester= resin, Why can't I made the inner skins and elevator from V/ester resin = instead of epoxy.

Anyone else has any comments, please go for it.<= BR>
Phil Matheson
matheson@= dodo.com.au
61 3 58833588
See our engines at:
http://www.vw-engines.com/



<= /TD>
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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_UQAPCJD0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_TQAPH890000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:53:01 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: newsletter Message-ID: <001601c29ce3$5c122f00$0101a8c0@net> ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C29CA0.4CA0C420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Way back when, Larry "volunteered" me to write a new FAQ list. I am = still willing to do this for the newsletter/ KRNet. I was trying to = compile a list of everything that has to do with plan discrepancies, = frequently done mods/changes, general thoughts on building, = comments(i.e. cockpit width, new airfoil, build time...etc.) . Would it = help if I put together a questioner, and post to KRNet? I did not get = any responses last time. C'mon guys (and girls), I'll do all the work, = all you have to do is answer a few :-) questions. Jim(still trying = to get something done on the KR) Sporka P.S. Hey Hennie, it's = almost Christmas. Is that thing flying yet? ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C29CA0.4CA0C420-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:49:32 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> newsletter Message-Id: <3DF0AAEC.000007.01248@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_KEAPWCW0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_KEAPRN00000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_KEAPRN00000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim,=0D =0D Send all the questions you like. I might even throw in an opinion or two= as I think I have a few extra laying around here somewhere.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, December 05, 2002 07:39:06 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> newsletter=0D =0D Way back when, Larry "volunteered" me to write a new FAQ list. I am still= willing to do this for the newsletter/ KRNet. I was trying to compile a = list of everything that has to do with plan discrepancies, frequently don= e mods/changes, general thoughts on building, comments(i.e. cockpit width= , new airfoil, build time...etc.) . Would it help if I put together a que= stioner, and post to KRNet? I did not get any responses last time. C'mon = guys (and girls), I'll do all the work, all you have to do is answer a fe= w :-) questions. Jim(still trying to get something done on the KR) Sporka= P.S. Hey Hennie, it's almost Christmas. Is that thing flying yet? --------------Boundary-00=_KEAPRN00000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
 
Send all the questions you like.  I might even throw in an opin= ion or two as I think I have a few extra laying around here somewhere. 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, De= cember 05, 2002 07:39:06 PM
Subject: KR> ne= wsletter
 
Way back when, Larry "volunteered" me to write a new FAQ= list. I am still willing to do this for the newsletter/ KRNet. I was try= ing to compile a list of everything that has to do with plan discrepancie= s, frequently done mods/changes, general thoughts on building, comments(i= =2Ee. cockpit width, new airfoil, build time...etc.) . Would it help if I= put together a questioner, and post to KRNet? I did not get any response= s last time. C'mon guys (and girls), I'll do all the work, all you have t= o do is answer a few :-) questions. Jim(still trying to get something don= e on the KR) Sporka P.S. Hey Hennie, it's almost Christmas. Is that thing= flying yet?

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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_KEAPRN00000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_KEAPWCW0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:42:27 +0000 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Randy Stambook Subject: Re: KR> Index of Newsletters Message-ID: <3DEFAC1D.C7FCA3A7@earthlink.net> Yes, its in issue #146 dated July 1989, 7 pages long, an excellent index! "T. M. Rusnak" wrote: > Does anyone have an index of the articles that appeared in the newsletters? > All I can find is the back issue index that appeared in the April/May 1995 KR Newsletter. > I have the CD Rom of the last 27 years of newletters but this is akin to owning a library with no way of telling where the books are and their subject matter. > Merle Rusnak ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:54:29 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Karl Kleimenhagen Subject: I'd like to ask some basic questions Message-ID: <20021206055429.51844.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I've been watching this list for about two weeks, and I see the veterans here want to have the list used by those now building a KR. I'm still trying to select a plane to build from plans, and I wish to learn more about the KR2's. If any of you with experience in building a KR would be willing to take some questions from me, off the list, please send me a note at: KR2S@kwk.us Thanks, Karl Kleimenhagen, Peoria IL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:15:32 -0600 To: From: "Ricky Farley" Subject: RE: KR> I'd like to ask some basic questions Message-ID: <000601c29cee$e50429c0$6b01a8c0@ENTERPRISE> Post your questions to the list. The nice thing about the list is that there are many folks doing things slightly different and therefore can give multiple solutions to different kinds of problems. We all benefit from questions and if you have a question about something, chances are that there are others who have the same question but are unwilling/unable to bring themselves to ask. Ricky Farley KR-2S (now in the "boat stage") San Angelo TX ricky@r-farley.com -----Original Message----- From: Karl Kleimenhagen [mailto:kr2s@kwk.us] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 23:54 To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> I'd like to ask some basic questions Hello, I've been watching this list for about two weeks, and I see the veterans here want to have the list used by those now building a KR. I'm still trying to select a plane to build from plans, and I wish to learn more about the KR2's. If any of you with experience in building a KR would be willing to take some questions from me, off the list, please send me a note at: KR2S@kwk.us Thanks, Karl Kleimenhagen, Peoria IL --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:38:16 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> and I see the veterans here want to have the list used by those now building a KR. Message-Id: <3DF0A848.000001.01248@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_SV9PQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_TV9PLVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_TV9PLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please send your questions to the net. Your assumption is not correct. = By letting people know your intentions, you can get good answers. Sometimes= , I think we assume that we are answering another builder who we expect shoul= d have a certain basic knowledge.=0D =0D Please ask away.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, December 05, 2002 09:54:37 PM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> I'd like to ask some basic questions=0D =0D Hello,=0D =0D I've been watching this list for about two weeks, and I see the veterans here=0D want to have the list used by those now building a KR.=0D =0D I'm still trying to select a plane to build from plans, and I wish to lea= rn=0D more about the KR2's. If any of you with experience in building a KR woul= d be=0D willing to take some questions from me, off the list, please send me a no= te=0D at:=0D =0D KR2S@kwk.us=0D =0D Thanks,=0D =0D Karl Kleimenhagen, Peoria IL=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_TV9PLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please send your questions to the net.  Your assumption is not = correct.  By letting people know your intentions, you can get good a= nswers.  Sometimes, I think we assume that we = are answering another builder who we expect should have a certain basic k= nowledge.
 
Please ask away.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, De= cember 05, 2002 09:54:37 PM
Subject: KR> I'= d like to ask some basic questions
 
Hello,

I've been watching this list for about two= weeks, and I see the veterans here
want to have the list used by thos= e now building a KR.

I'm still trying to select a plane to build f= rom plans, and I wish to learn
more about the KR2's. If any of you wit= h experience in building a KR would be
willing to take some questions = from me, off the list, please send me a note
at:

KR2S@kwk.us

Thanks,

Karl Kleimenhagen,= Peoria IL



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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_TV9PLVC0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_SV9PQL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:46:25 +0200 To: From: "Danny Livingstone" Subject: Corvair Message-ID: <001201c29d14$b9fdcd00$9bb6fea9@HOME> Is there anybody out there that has a 20 or 30 thou undersize main bearing set for the corvair crank, part number c1437m20 or c1437m30 (Journal size: 2.0978 - 2.0988"), I thought I'd ask the KR net first before going to the suppliers. Thanks Danny South Africa ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************