From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 9 Dec 2002 22:18:28 -0000 Issue 570 Date: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:19 PM krnet Digest 9 Dec 2002 22:18:28 -0000 Issue 570 Topics (messages 13656 through 13682): Re: Another Idea for a Strobe Light 13656 by: gleone 13659 by: Mark Jones Re: Donate the Newsletter - final bell 13657 by: Gary Ainsworth 13660 by: Mark Langford 13662 by: Rick Wilson 13667 by: Phillip Matheson 13680 by: Donald Blankenship BULL**** 13658 by: CHOCTAWCWR.aol.com delete 13661 by: Tim Brown in defense of the Corvair 13663 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC 13664 by: ArmChrAce.aol.com 13666 by: ArmChrAce.aol.com 13679 by: Jim Sellars CONTACTING Chris Gardiner 13665 by: Justin Christmas for KR2 13668 by: JC Marais Donate the newletter 13669 by: T. M. Rusnak Redneck Pilot? 13670 by: Jim Snyder On liability 13671 by: Jim Snyder 13673 by: Robert X. Cringely Re: My thanks to Larry for taking the Newsletter from Monte and creating the CD 13672 by: Anthony Underwood Re: retractable gear question. 13674 by: Seifert, Richard E 13675 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com 13676 by: cartera Re: Landing gear Question? 13677 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com Solvents 13678 by: bill kirkland Re: GPS's and power supply 13681 by: clappw.bellsouth.net news letter/ elevator weight 13682 by: jim . synergy design Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:13:48 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <3DF3D22C.50031F1F@tritel.net> Hey, I have a Found On Road Dead Cobra (2001) and though I love the car, Ford could have done a little better job on the clutch assembly. Long story! ;) Robert Stone wrote: > How about "FIX AND REPAIR DAILY' > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry A. Capps" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:08 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > F O R D > > > > Found On Road Dead > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Johnson [mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca] > > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:05 PM > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > > > > As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' this morning, the turn > > signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something on these silly ass > > F.O.R.D.S). > > > > Being the type of thinker that scans all options surrounding an event or > > item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap thrown to it, it's not > > that he's not interested in it, it's that he's more interested in where > the > > scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for a strobe light. > > > > The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was a good one, but the > truth > > is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is probably only bright enough to > > light up the joy of the work you did in making it. > > > > Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base from a common 1,000,000 > > candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast base with a suitably > > scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not a Ford!), blinker > relay?! > > > > The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are common, and the bulbs for the > > spot lights are readily available. > > > > Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all things to do with Fords > > are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! > > > > Peter Johnson > > KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair > > Kenora, Ontario > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:33:07 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <008001c29f1a$8bb8b7e0$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> And I do not see where this has anything at all to do with KR's or aviation. So why clutter up folks e-mail with this nonsense too............Please, this is a season of Peace and Joy. Can we all not be friends again??? :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "gleone" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > Hey, I have a Found On Road Dead Cobra (2001) and though I love the car, Ford > could have done a little better job on the clutch assembly. Long story! ;) > > Robert Stone wrote: > > > How about "FIX AND REPAIR DAILY' > > > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry A. Capps" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:08 PM > > Subject: RE: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > > > F O R D > > > > > > Found On Road Dead > > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Peter Johnson [mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca] > > > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:05 PM > > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > > Subject: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > > > > > > > As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' this morning, the turn > > > signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something on these silly ass > > > F.O.R.D.S). > > > > > > Being the type of thinker that scans all options surrounding an event or > > > item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap thrown to it, it's not > > > that he's not interested in it, it's that he's more interested in where > > the > > > scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for a strobe light. > > > > > > The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was a good one, but the > > truth > > > is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is probably only bright enough to > > > light up the joy of the work you did in making it. > > > > > > Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base from a common 1,000,000 > > > candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast base with a suitably > > > scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not a Ford!), blinker > > relay?! > > > > > > The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are common, and the bulbs for the > > > spot lights are readily available. > > > > > > Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all things to do with Fords > > > are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! > > > > > > Peter Johnson > > > KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair > > > Kenora, Ontario > > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:23:33 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Gary Ainsworth CC: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: At Sunday, 08 December 2002, gleone wrote: >Good God, people, if you have to have pissing matches, have them privately. >All this >does is clutter ..... Amen to that!!! Oh, on the litigation note: As a marine surveyor(the're the guys you sue when your boat sinks) I have been sued several times and have luckily fended of most. I have a full page of 'you cannot sue me' stuff on my documents that I don't know why the insurance companies accept them - (it's because they don't read them!) these disclaimers have helped me in court(I was also innocent!) and when I told the lia'ers that I will own their boat when we finish it is usually enough. However it doesn't always work that way and when you sell your plane it doesn't always work either - 'disclaimers' help, but are not 'bulletproof'. Mercruiser just lost in your 'Supreme Court' (Dec 04/02) for not putting a protective hoop around their propeller that would have protected an overboard accident/incident from injury and death. You might just have to put a cage around your prop in the near future. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:46:42 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: <003c01c29f1c$719b2990$0a00a8c0@800Athlon> "gleone" wrote: > For the moderator, it would be nice to find a way to filter this out. If it can be > done, I think most of the KR-netters would be most appreciative. It can be done, but it means changing the list to "moderated", which means that Randy or I will have to "OK" every post that's submitted before it's sent to the rest of the list. That ain't gonna happen! What CAN be done is throw somebody off the list and not the moderate subscriptions so they can't resubscribe, but if that happens to anybody, it won't be Larry. You can't blame him for defending himself with the facts... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:35:08 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, Mark Langford From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: <20021209013508.91739.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> I only have two things to say about all this: 1. The good thing about OWNING something is you can do what you want with it. 2. All this bickering should be done in private, It adds nothing to constructing or flying any kind of aircraft. Just my observations, Rick Wilson. --- Mark Langford wrote: > "gleone" wrote: > > > For the moderator, it would be nice to find a way > to filter this out. If > it can be > > done, I think most of the KR-netters would be most > appreciative. > > It can be done, but it means changing the list to > "moderated", which means > that Randy or I will have to "OK" every post that's > submitted before it's > sent to the rest of the list. That ain't gonna > happen! What CAN be done is > throw somebody off the list and not the moderate > subscriptions so they can't > resubscribe, but if that happens to anybody, it > won't be Larry. You can't > blame him for defending himself with the facts... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:43:20 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: <000f01c29f5f$082754a0$8296dccb@Matheson> PLease, Please can you blokes talk to one another off the net. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:24:38 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Donald Blankenship" Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: <20021209202438.33542.qmail@mail.com> Mark, The only reason many netters are getting their money back from Larry Capps now is that I wrote him to ask if I should have the Illinois Attorney General look into his solicitations and requests for cash donations if he didn't give the money back to the them after not publishing the newsletter. That option is still available if everyone does not get their money back or if he backslides. As far as Larry's confused facts, my Private Pilot Certificate was issued 06-23-95, and though this is the first time I have made any mention of it since my newsletter articles in the early '90s, I am also an aeronautical engineer as you are, Mark. Though it is embarrassing to have to show in this way that Larry will say virtually anything, I have a Master of Aeronautical Science degree from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, 1999, and a Bachelor of Science in Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering from The Ohio State University, 1984 (Go Bucks!). My enjoyment and hobby for many years was to analyze the KR-2 airframe and the aircraft's stability and control. Contributors to the newsletter in the '90s provided inputs to my assessments. I stopped taking the newsletter in the mid '90s. Last summer Larry solicited me for money and articles, and I started reading messages on the KRnet. Larry was the only person on the net that who was virulently asking for money for things he was not delivering. Now that he has hopefully returned the money as requested, I am satisfied. Don Blankenship ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:46:42 -0600 To: Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell > "gleone" wrote: > > > For the moderator, it would be nice to find a way to filter this out. If > it can be > > done, I think most of the KR-netters would be most appreciative. > > It can be done, but it means changing the list to "moderated", which means > that Randy or I will have to "OK" every post that's submitted before it's > sent to the rest of the list. That ain't gonna happen! What CAN be done is > throw somebody off the list and not the moderate subscriptions so they can't > resubscribe, but if that happens to anybody, it won't be Larry. You can't > blame him for defending himself with the facts... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:32:48 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: CHOCTAWCWR@aol.com Subject: BULL**** Message-ID: <16d.16b1d316.2b253eb0@aol.com> --part1_16d.16b1d316.2b253eb0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST, I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR MANY YEARS AND HAVE SEEN A LOT OF NONSENSE ON HERE, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS. CHARLES ROBISON ATLANTA, TEXAS --part1_16d.16b1d316.2b253eb0_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:31:34 -0800 (PST) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: delete Message-ID: <20021209013134.70150.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com> My solution to all "crap" is to look at my in box and if I ain't interested in the topic, just put a check mark in it without opening and then hit delete. Until right now I didn't even kntherehat ther was another "war." 'Cause I just hit "delete" without reading most of the current subjects because I was not interested. Along time ago I posted the following: "Answer the KR questions posed and do not answer/attack the answers." I believe this was during the new wing wars. Anyway.....I'm gone. Building is better than fightin', and that is what this whole thing is about. Tim __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 19:56:02 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: in defense of the Corvair Message-ID: Well, no one else picked up the gauntlet that Mac dropped, so I guess I will. Mac- you may be a mechanic and do it for a living, and have driven and/or owned Corvairs, but have you built or worked on one lately? They don't leak oil anymore because the gaskets and O-rings are now made of modern materials. They don't throw belts because very, very few folks who convert them for aero use even employ the blower... they install them just like "real" aircraft engines with pressure cowls or eyebrows. In fact, I think it would be impossible to install a blower-cooled Corvair under the cowling of a KR without a really odd cowling. Mac- the Corvair is a good engine and it's being proven by more and more folks. Keep an open mind. Oh, and, compare the price of building one up after you find the O-200 you're looking for. Then when you're ready, take a look at the information at http://www.flycorvair.com and http://www.corvaircraft.com and http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/index.html and let's talk some more-! A mechanic like yourself could work one of these engines over in no time, and save yourself lots of money. You're looking for O-200 performance, and the Corvair can provide it. Oscar Zúñiga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 01:12:03 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: ArmChrAce@aol.com Subject: Fwd: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC Message-ID: <175.130cb7e0.2b258e33@aol.com> --part1_175.130cb7e0.2b258e33_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello KRnetheads A word or two from an outsider on liability. Product liability is the biggest hoax since the dawn of time. It is based on fear and ignorance, not fact. It is used to make lawyers and insurance companies fat at the consumers expense. Liability, like debt, if it is honost liability cannot be avoided. However, most, if not all, liability claims made by or through a lawyer is pure fraud and can be counterclaimed as such. It is unfortunate that most goods and services are provided by people ignorant of the statutes concerning product liability. In their ignorance, when they are confronted by a lawyer, instead of reaching for a rope or gun, they start imagining all sort of horrible possibilities. They can see in their minds eye the fantastic increase in their insurance premiums. If they would only look at the claim they would see that it is not supported by an affidavit the most basic element of a claim. No lawyer is going to have his client (fish) to sign one of those. This lack of the most elemental component of a claim makes the lawyer and its client liable for the injury of filing a fraudulent claim. that is why lawyers carry either a bond or liability insurance through the State Bar Association. Corporations, LLC's and other creations of the State can be required to carry insurances on everything they do. Large Corporation can pass the cost of insurance and legal (?) fees to a large consumer base, if it has a large consumer base. Small, family organizations are caught is the squeeze and in the sites of the greedy legal profession. For the last several years I have been involved in setting up private trusts to help people with small businesses avoid frivilous claims. No organization can make someone immune from liability, if that liability exists. The proper organization can, however, protect from fraudulent claims. Did you ever notice how lawyers dump their client when they find that there is on deep pockets to draw from. I strongly urge anyone with a good product or service to continue in business, just restructure your business to avoid lawyers and mandatory insurances. Ernest C. Aldridge armchrace@aol.com --part1_175.130cb7e0.2b258e33_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINZA33-1208035229; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 03:52:29 -0500 Received: from mailinglists.org (server1.mailinglists.org [63.160.175.18]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA310-1208035210; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 03:52:10 1900 Received: (qmail 14403 invoked by alias); 8 Dec 2002 08:51:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact krnet-help@mailinglists.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Delivered-To: mailing list krnet@mailinglists.org Received: (qmail 14394 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 08:51:32 -0000 From: ArmChrAce@aol.com Message-ID: <49.27a46d07.2b246215@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:51:33 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Subject: Re: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC Hello KRnetheads A word or two from an outsider on liability. Product liability is the biggest hoax since the dawn of time. It is based on fear and ignorance, not fact. It is used to make lawyers and insurance companies fat at the consumers expense. Liability, like debt, if it is honost liability cannot be avoided. However, most, if not all, liability claims made by or through a lawyer is pure fraud and can be counterclaimed as such. It is unfortunate that most goods and services are provided by people ignorant of the statutes concerning product liability. In their ignorance, when they are confronted by a lawyer, instead of reaching for a rope or gun, they start imagining all sort of horrible possibilities. They can see in their minds eye the fantastic increase in their insurance premiums. If they would only look at the claim they would see that it is not supported by an affidavit the most basic element of a claim. No lawyer is going to have his client (fish) to sign one of those. This lack of the most elemental component of a claim makes the lawyer and its client liable for the injury of filing a fraudulent claim. that is why lawyers carry either a bond or liability insurance through the State Bar Association. Corporations, LLC's and other creations of the State can be required to carry insurances on everything they do. Large Corporation can pass the cost of insurance and legal (?) fees to a large consumer base, if it has a large consumer base. Small, family organizations are caught is the squeeze and in the sites of the greedy legal profession. For the last several years I have been involved in setting up private trusts to help people with small businesses avoid frivilous claims. No organization can make someone immune from liability, if that liability exists. The proper organization can, however, protect from fraudulent claims. Did you ever notice how lawyers dump their client when they find that there is on deep pockets to draw from. I strongly urge anyone with a good product or service to continue in business, just restructure your business to avoid lawyers and mandatory insurances. Ernest C. Aldridge armchrace@aol.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files --part1_175.130cb7e0.2b258e33_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 03:28:46 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: ArmChrAce@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC Message-ID: <180.127a106b.2b25ae3e@aol.com> Mr. Langford, Mr robison, et al. I have no desire to put down anyone for their business decisions, because small businesses that bring the needed goods and services to market are not started by mental midgets. My studies have shown the people that start small business are far ahead of those that populate the large corporations of this country. My studies also have shown that most of the executives of major corporations are there because, like those that feed at the public trough, they are too lazy to work, too nervous to steal and too jealous to pimp. This especially true of the "legal" staff of those corporations. Anyone that can reed a set of plans and build a KR (which I intend to do) and find and rebuild a Corvair engine (which I intend to do) has the mind capable of analyzing a business structure that is the most beneficial to them if they are given the proper information. The problem is, the first information they receive on business structures is usually from a lawyer or their minion. To date I've not found a lawyer capable of telling the truth so their advice is worse than useless. It sets people up to fall prey to either to them or their brothers. It takes a lot of digging to uncover information on such things as Corporations Sole in Washington (state) and Nevada, private trusts, business trusts (pure) and a few other business structures. Mr Robison was offered some forms for several thousnad dollars that would protect him. That was a hollow promise. Forms cannot give you the understanding necessary to protect your self, which is, after all, the only protection one has. I have information on several business that I can give out on a one on one at my web address, for those that are looking. Just keep in mind that I am normally as busy as a cat covering shit on a tin roof. Right now I have taken up quite enough of this valuable net space. This is the place for important stuff of aircraft talk and information. It's just that the news of a small business falling prey to the lawyers gets me wound up. I'll put my soap box away now. Thanks Ernest C. Aldridge armchrace@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:53:10 -0400 To: , "Mark Langford" From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC Message-ID: <005001c29fbc$9e59f9c0$86a89aa5@LAPTOP> Mark & Dr. Dean; You folks have done a ton to help the rest of us with your sound and innovative solutions. Hope you will still be there to offer some thoughtful suggestions for questions in the future. Understand your concern and can't blame you for the position you have taken, what a crazy world. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "krnet" Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC > KRnetHeads, > > It's Friday so maybe I can get away with this. I just thought I'd let y'all > know that the staff at Trailing Edge Technologies. LLC (that would be me and > Dr. Dean) have decided to throw in the towel. Nothing personal, but we're > both concerned about the issue of liability. Although we've done what we > can to keep from being sued, the stark reality is that given the US "legal" > system, we could still be sued and forced to defend ourselves in court, > regardless of the validity or the outcome of the claim. > > An example of this would be the ongoing case of the Corvair knockoff fuel > pump affair. The story I heard was that even though GM quit manufacturing > Corvair fuel pumps in the mid 60's, an aftermarket company reverse > engineered it and started making their own version, and probably still make > it today. A few years ago a Polish aircraft engine manufacturer discovered > the Corvair pump as a good fit for its engine, and incorporated it into its > design. A subsequent engine failure in a Swift that had been retrofitted > with the Polish engine was blamed on a defective valve in the AFTERMARKET > pump, yet GM was quickly sued because it had designed the valve in the > beginning, even though it had nothing to do with the manufacture of that > particular pump, nor did it ever approve such a pump for use in an aircraft. > GM is gearing up to go to court in this matter, despite the ridiculous > nature of the suit. > > Another good one would be John Denver's estate suing the manufacturer of the > fuel valve that was set to an empty wing tank, that John was never even > able to reach! > > My father has been sued for a million dollars on two different occasions, > both of which were ludicrous, but it still cost him $40,000 to defend > against them, not to mention over a year of sleepless nights. Were we to > change our laws so that those who filed these frivolous lawsuits would have > to pay BOTH sets of lawyers if they lost, we wouldn't have this problem, but > since our legislators are mostly lawyers, that'll never happen. > > And although most experimental aircraft builders would scoff at the idea of > suing anybody that's been as helpful as we have been to the KR construction > effort, their spouses and children may not share that view, and that is > where the problem lies. We've enjoyed working with you, but it's just not > worth the risk... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:20:04 -0600 To: "KR" From: "Justin" Subject: CONTACTING Chris Gardiner Message-ID: <000e01c29f3a$3fb45e60$86df1818@socal.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C29F07.F4E793C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have his e-mail? I have some questions for him about his KR. Justin ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C29F07.F4E793C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:47:25 +0200 To: , From: "JC Marais" Subject: Christmas for KR2 Message-ID: <030401c29f82$1d2edad0$6cb9ef9b@jc> From: "Serge Vidal" > I want to spoil my KR2 for Christmas, and I need to source two instruments. Serge and all on the net, I want to agree with you, Serge. Our little planes / projects are scolded so many times each year for doing bad things, that they surely deserve some special attention. My plane is frequently blamed for keeping me away from home, as well as being late for supper / not doing all my tasks at home. I have decided to to replace my plane's hat (canopy) with a new, streamlined one. It will be a one-piece, with hinges that let it open forward. Serge, I am also in the market for a revcounter. Are your old one in the market? Cheers to all. JC Marais South Africa jcmarais@intekom.co.za Tel: (+27)12 - 660-1463 (a/h) Cell phone : 082-401-5259 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 06:15:52 -0700 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "T. M. Rusnak" Subject: Donate the newletter Message-id: <000e01c29f85$197bb680$1bff4718@fm.shawcable.net> --Boundary_(ID_Kupm84tIzYMIwM93D29A/Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Amen Phil, The number of letters comig through this site is large enough without having to sort through personal comments as well. Merle --Boundary_(ID_Kupm84tIzYMIwM93D29A/Q)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 08:23:41 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Jim Snyder" Subject: Redneck Pilot? Message-ID: <00fd01c29f8e$93013ee0$960b9b18@wtx.clearsource.net> Hey, y'all Let's lighten up a bit. Here's some humor you might enjoy. Cheers ---- Jim (new kid on the block.) You May be a Redneck Pilot if... > > > >... your stall warning plays "Dixie." > > > >... your cross-country flight plan uses flea markets as check points. > > > >... you think sectionals charts should show trailer parks. > > > >... you've ever used moonshine as avgas. > > > >... you have mud flaps on your wheel pants. > > > >... you think GPS stands for going perfectly straight. > > > >... your toothpick keeps poking your mike. > > > >... you constantly confuse Beechcraft with Beechnut. > > > >... just before impact, you are heard saying, "Hey y'all, watch this!" > > > >... you have a black airplane with a big #3 on the side. > > > >... you've ever just taxied around the airport drinking beer. > > > >... you use a Purina feed bag for a windsock. > > > >... you fuel your wizzbang 140 from a Mason jar. > > > >... you wouldn't be caught dead flyin' a Grumman "Yankee." > > > >... you refer to flying in formation as "We got ourselves a convoy!" > > > >... there is a sign on the side of your aircraft advertising your > >septic tank service. > > > >... the set of "matching luggage" you take on your long > >cross-country flights is three grocery sacks from the same Piggly > >Wiggly! > > > >... when you are the owner of Red Neck Airlines and pilot of Redneck > >One. > > > >... you subscribe to The Southern Aviator because of the soft paper! > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:21:46 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Jim Snyder" Subject: On liability Message-ID: <014c01c29f96$b0357780$960b9b18@wtx.clearsource.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0149_01C29F64.655042E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm wondering about the builder's implied liability in the example of a = partially finished homebuilt project put up for sale.=20 Questions: Does anyone know of anybody keeping records showing a correlation = between; 1. The number of homebuilt projects sold, then finished & flown = during a given time period, & 2. The number of fatal crashes & 3. The number of lawsuits resulting from those crashes & 4. The outcome of those lawsuits during the same time period. It could be instructive to know the probable consequences of selling a = KR project BEFORE putting an unfinished project on the market, = especially if fatal crashes result in a high incidence of lawsuits.=20 =20 My survival instinct tells me "Don't sell that 'hangar queen' homebuilt = project. Donate it to the local EAA chapter or vo-tech school as a class = project in composite construction." Comments, anyone? Jim Snyder ------=_NextPart_000_0149_01C29F64.655042E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 08:15:42 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> On liability Message-Id: This is problematical. Most of the homebuilts donated to the EAA (not chapters) are sold to new owners, so that hardly offers much legal protection. Most donors just assume their pride and joy is going on display in a museum, but there is only so much room and only historic or prime examples are kept. This is probably the case with some chapters, too, though I'm sure it varies. I have built seven homebuilts so far and sold only one -- a Glasair I sold to a friend back in 1986. That plane put on almost 3000 hours after I sold it, flying all over the U.S. and as far south as Belize. The engine (an O-360) was overhauled, as was the Hartzell compact hub propeller (actually, the prop was overhauled several times following the five year schedule set by Hartzell for that model). Then in 2000, flying back to the Bay Area from Las Vegas, that Hartzell prop threw a blade. The only thing that kept the engine on the airframe was the safety cable I installed (and ALWAYS install) to keep the engine tied to the mount following Formula 1 safety rules. The plane put down in the desert, ripped its main gear out crossing a ditch, and was a total loss. Nobody was hurt. Frankly, I was relieved, not just that nobody was hurt but also that the plane was totally destroyed, ending my liability worries. If the pilot (still my friend) had felt like it, of course, he could have sued me for not knowing fifteen years, 3000 hours, and 2-3 overhauls before that a blade might let loose that day over Nevada. Suits like that happen all the time. And the fact that I deviated from the plans to add the cable that probably saved two lives, well that would never have been taken into consideration, believe me. Of course this probably doesn't mean anything if you have no assets. When I built my KR-1 for $1300 (including engine!) back in 1977 I had nothing and nobody would have sued me for just that reason, had I sold the plane and an accident happened BACK THEN. But today, when I'm sitting here on my 47 acres in the California Wine Country, a lot has changed and I am very, very glad I didn't sell that KR 20 years ago. If you have a nice plane and feel the need to sell it, I suggest doing so in a less litigious environment, like Europe. You'll get a better price there, too. Bob > wondering about the builder's implied liability in the example of a >partially finished homebuilt project put up for sale. >Questions: > Does anyone know of anybody keeping records showing a correlation between; > 1. The number of homebuilt projects sold, then finished & >flown during a given time period, & > 2. The number of fatal crashes & > 3. The number of lawsuits resulting from those crashes & > 4. The outcome of those lawsuits during the same time period. > >It could be instructive to know the probable consequences of selling >a KR project BEFORE putting an unfinished project on the market, >especially if fatal crashes result in a high incidence of lawsuits. > >My survival instinct tells me "Don't sell that 'hangar queen' >homebuilt project. Donate it to the local EAA chapter or vo-tech >school as a class project in composite construction." > >Comments, anyone? > > Jim Snyder -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:30:51 -0500 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Anthony Underwood Subject: RE: KR>My thanks to Larry for taking the Newsletter from Monte and creating the CD Message-ID: <01C29F6E.1F6002C0.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com> It's Monday morning,Dec,9 and i've spent the last hour and a half going through all the poistings from the weak end.My job is such, that after i get my work done i stil have to be avaliable, so ihave some free time to look the KRnet.I'd like to say thank you Larry for at least trying, if the EAA had got a hold of it,thoes money grubbers would have bured it in a deep dark hole,or tried to milk us for every dime we've got to see it. There seems to be a lot of hostility out there,Larry called me twice to tell me about the demise of the news letter and what would i like to do with my UNCASHED check.I don't know ,but i think that was perty nice of him,he could have spent my money and said so sad so sorry.I'm gona buy the cd just for the back issues.I guess i'm one of maby 20 people that doesn't have a computer at home, i;m building my KR on what i would say is the tightest budget of anybody. It's like what i told the lady at Aeroflash when i asked about a catalog and a price sheet. She told me They didn't do catalogs, that everything was on the net.And i told her that i could, 1,buy a computer, or 2, buy thier prducts, which one did they want? Now i'm not whine'n about my money problems, i'm just trying to say in a round about way,the KR was intended to be a cheap way to go fast. Now it's been turned into a Lanceair. I've recived a lot of help from guy's like Mark and Peter and Sam, through the newsletter and the phone.I guess us guy's that just wana fly and have fun without turning something into a big production are out of luck.I might be ramban on ,but i think there is one or two who understand. Larry, thank's for trying. Anthony Underwood -----Original Message----- From: Dan Heath [SMTP:danrh@alltel.net] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:50 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR>My thanks to Larry for taking the Newsletter from Monte and creating the CD Larry, Thanks again. I have not ordered the CD, but I am very glad that it is there for others to get. Jerry has it, so I have that resource if needed. I am with Mark, let it die. I did not subscribe, because I don't like to get nor do I spend time reading stuff I get in the mail. I get my chapter newsletter in e-mail. I am gratefull to you for getting it from that scavenger and appreciate your doing it. Don, be nice. DanRH@KR-Builder.org See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic. See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com -------Original Message------- From: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, December 06, 2002 07:40:22 PM To: KR Builders List \(E-mail\) Subject: KR> Please Donate the Newsletter Mr. Don Blankenship, et al, You speak so eloquently for others, maybe the actual term used should be hypocrite. Not only did you NOT support the newsletter, but now you'd like to gripe and point fingers and ridicule those willing to put the money up and at least make the effort. People like you are exactly why the newsletter has died, what can one do without support. Its not about money Don, it's about articles to be written; without adequate subscribers there is no resources to pull from and no news or articles to print. I do however giggle slightly at your attitude towards the newsletter effort, that is to say, you not only want to complain about who produces the newsletter, you'd also like someone else to pay for your copy of the newsletter. Here's how we can solve your little problem Don. If my purchasing of the KR Newsletter bothers you that much, I'd be happy to disclose to you a sale price, to purchase it. You can buy the newsletter from me and donate it to whom ever you desire. And Don, you'll be able to make that decision on your own, not for someone else. What do you think, Don? Larry A. Capps KR Newsletter Naperville, IL mailto:lacapps@attbi.com -----Original Message----- From: Donald Blankenship [mailto:dgb@usa.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 Subject: Re: KR> Please Donate the Newsletter Now that the newsletter has been put "on hold," reality must sink in. If the newsletter is eventually to be published again, it needs such a devoted and unselfish person to assume the responsiblities -- someone who really wants to make a try at it. What do you think, Larry? If you truly saved the newsletter, this idea should appeal to you. Don Blankenship --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files . << File: ATT00008.htm >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 08:25:04 -0800 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Seifert, Richard E" Subject: RE: KR> retractable gear question. Message-ID: <9BA7A06DA8127B4B925954F3F8705D3405B8BA2B@XCH-SW-09.sw.nos.boeing.com> Pedro I have just reached 500 hours flying my retractable KR2 and have over 1500 landings on the gear. I have never had a gear collapse but = have found the weak points of the stock system. The locking system needs stronger springs and a way to transfer the loads to the Spar bracket = without bending the bolt. I built triangular shaped latches for mine. the = aluminum brackets and wedge blocks should be replaced with welded up 3/16 thick = steel brackets as the aluminum castings tend to crack just above the lower = boss. The outboard U shaped aluminum spring bar brackets tend to crack unless = you install a bushing between the open legs of the bracket. The bolt = should go through one leg, then through the bushing then through the other leg. = This arrangement eliminates the bolt bending which causes the cracking of = the bracket. The spring bar thickness should be increased to one inch = unless your KR is VERY LIGHT. In short the retractable gear can be safe but = will require a little re-engineering. -----Original Message----- From: Pedro Pinz=F3n [mailto:pepinzon@cantv.net] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:28 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> retractable gear question. Hi guys. I=B4m in the boat stage righ now, and thinking about what landing gear = to use. Really, I like how the KR2 with retractable gear looks, but to many = people decides for other type of gears. Why?. Are there heavy reasons to do = that? Apart of more weigh and complexity are there some technical things what about I dont have read yet? Also, Is there any KR2S using retractable gears?. Plans don=B4t say anything about. Thanks for help ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:55:26 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> retractable gear question. Message-ID: <1a5.d514024.2b2624fe@aol.com> --part1_1a5.d514024.2b2624fe_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1a5.d514024_alt_bound" --1a5.d514024_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You got that right, I bought the plane with the retracts on after I removed them I found the aluminum blocks were peeled back where they are held by the locking bar. They were peeled back like a tin can, therefore causing the landing gear to retract on landing. If your going to keep retracts you definitely need to replace the locking blocks with steel, and like you said the springs need to be replaced also, I tried to work the gear with the plane elevated and almost got a hernia, a could not even imagine trying to raise or lower the gear during flight. After all I have read, and people I have talked to, changing over to conventional or even better tricycle gear, have all been very glad they have done so. Please try not to discourage anyone that wishes to change gear. I have not found one person who regrets changing to fixed landing gear. For the ones of you that have retracts and like them, that is great, most of you have been very nice to chat with, but there are a few out there that get offended when anyone mentions that they are not happy with the current landing system and wish to change, they get there panties in a twist. I for one am glad to see anyone do anything that makes them feel safer and more confident while flying. I believe it is the best for all of us in this hobby of homebuilt airplanes. Lets all encourage anyone who wishes to make his or her plane a joy to fly. Thanks Ray --1a5.d514024_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   You got that right, I bought the plane with the retracts on after I removed them I found the aluminum blocks were peeled back where they are held by the locking bar. They were peeled back like a tin can, therefore causing the landing gear to retract on landing. If your going to keep retracts you definitely need to replace the locking blocks with steel, and like you said the springs need to be replaced also, I tried to work the gear with the plane elevated and almost got a hernia, a could not even imagine trying to raise or lower the gear during flight.
   After all I have read, and people I have talked to, changing over to conventional or even better tricycle gear, have all been very glad they have done so. Please try not to discourage anyone that wishes to change gear. I have not found one person who regrets changing to fixed landing gear.
    For the ones of you that have retracts and like them, that is great, most of you have been very nice to chat with, but there are a few out there that get offended when anyone mentions that they are not happy with the current landing system and wish to change, they get there panties in a twist.
    I for one am glad to see anyone do anything that makes them feel safer and more confident while flying. I believe it is the best for all of us in this hobby of homebuilt airplanes. Lets all encourage anyone who wishes to make his or her plane a joy to fly. Thanks

       Ray
--1a5.d514024_alt_bound-- --part1_1a5.d514024.2b2624fe_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:10:34 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: cartera Subject: Re: KR> retractable gear question. Message-ID: <3DF4CE8A.FB86A5A9@cuug.ab.ca> Hello Gang, My KR has been up for 20 years with retract and not one has it grounded because of retracts. Take a look at my web site and you will see something positive and not all the negative I have been reading about retract. You see most have taken their training on trikes and don't know how to handle a taildragger. Kiddy cars are fine but a real pilot knows how to handle both. Don't bother to flame because the delete key is right at my right pinky. When I built my KR there was no net forum and one had to do their own thinking, you guys have it so well and still complain. And, Mark L I think the Newsletter was a god send but I do think it has admirably served it puropse, so guys don't beat a dead horse anymore. Happy Building and Flying, A Very Merry Christmas to All! RCTRVLR@aol.com wrote: > > You got that right, I bought the plane with the retracts on after I > removed them I found the aluminum blocks were peeled back where they > are held by the locking bar. They were peeled back like a tin can, > therefore causing the landing gear to retract on landing. If your > going to keep retracts you definitely need to replace the locking > blocks with steel, and like you said the springs need to be replaced > also, I tried to work the gear with the plane elevated and almost got > a hernia, a could not even imagine trying to raise or lower the gear > during flight. > After all I have read, and people I have talked to, changing over > to conventional or even better tricycle gear, have all been very glad > they have done so. Please try not to discourage anyone that wishes to > change gear. I have not found one person who regrets changing to fixed > landing gear. > For the ones of you that have retracts and like them, that is > great, most of you have been very nice to chat with, but there are a > few out there that get offended when anyone mentions that they are not > happy with the current landing system and wish to change, they get > there panties in a twist. > I for one am glad to see anyone do anything that makes them feel > safer and more confident while flying. I believe it is the best for > all of us in this hobby of homebuilt airplanes. Lets all encourage > anyone who wishes to make his or her plane a joy to fly. Thanks > > Ray -- Adrian VE6AFY Calgary, Alberta Mailto:cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:25:16 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear Question? Message-ID: <14c.1893b35b.2b263a0c@aol.com> --part1_14c.1893b35b.2b263a0c_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="14c.1893b35b_alt_bound" --14c.1893b35b_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With my recent discovery from a KR2 owner on How to mount the Diehl gear and not having to reroute the aileron wires, (thank you for the pic), I have decided to go with the Deihl and not the Grove gear. If anyone has any more input on the Grove gear over the Diehl gear to justify the cost difference, please jump in and voice your opinion. Thanks Ray --14c.1893b35b_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    With my recent discovery from a KR2 owner on How to mount the Diehl gear and not having to reroute the aileron wires, (thank you for the pic), I have decided to go with the Deihl and not the Grove gear.
    If anyone has any more input on the Grove gear over the Diehl gear to justify the cost difference, please jump in and voice your opinion. Thanks

         Ray
--14c.1893b35b_alt_bound-- --part1_14c.1893b35b.2b263a0c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:55:18 -0500 To: , From: "bill kirkland" Subject: Solvents Message-ID: <00b001c29fbc$e76f6320$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Solvents; Accetone is a great solvent but it is easily absorbed thru the skin, as is anything suspended in the solvent. Why not save yourself the trouble and just swallow the epoxy or grease or whatever. Wear gloves! Now it,s not as good as acetone but try using apple cider vinigar as a solvent for epoxy. Believe me it works. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: KR> Gloves, Strobes, and Peel-Ply > Epoxy and solvents are ALL skin and eye irritants, skin sensitizers and > corrosive. So, you must keep the stuff off of you to avoid problems. > > Nitrile or Butyl Gloves are by far the best protection for the hands. > > Gels and Barrier Creams work best on the forearms above the gloves for that > occasional splash. > > I myself developed an allergic reaction to aluminum. A couple of weeks ago > I was working on an all metal airplane. By the end of the day, my hands > were bleeding all over the place. They eventually healed up, but....maybe I > should have been wearing GLOVES.... >:) - G > > Larry A. Capps > Naperville, IL > > > > -----Original Message----- > > GLOVES - I've used vinyl gloves for doing layups > and they're not worth the box they come in. > > Recently, I've been trying NITRILE gloves and am > very happy with them, tough and close fitting. > > They're just under $20 CDN for a box of 100 at Acklands. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:38:41 -0500 To: From: Subject: Re: KR> GPS's and power supply Message-ID: <000701c29fcb$586cd4a0$b43dd6d1@h1x1g0> Where do you located the aviation database for the Garmin 315 or 320? I found the units but not the databases? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "gleone" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: Re: KR> GPS's and power supply > Check E-Bay for the Garman 315/320. It comes with an aviation database, is > updatable and cost me something like $130 (US). Accessories are optional but as > far a mounting it, velcro works wonders. > > Serge Vidal wrote: > > > On ZS-WEC, I use a Garmin GPS 315, the cheapest aviation unit I could find > > here in South AFrica. It is actually a marine GPS, that has been converted > > for aviation by changing the database. So far, I'm happy with it. > > > > Nav, comms, GPS and Intercom are always cheaper as handhld unit. I suppose > > it has to do with certification. Then you sit with an endless battery > > charging problem. > > > > After my first year flying ZS-WEC, I got tired with charging batteries, and > > desperately looked for solutions. So, when I rebuilt the instrument panel, I > > installed three panel-mounted sockets. One is a dedicated socket, and feeds > > the radio. The two others are cigarette-lighter sockets. One feeds the GPS > > (almost all GPS have cigarette lighter adapters available for them, and if > > not, cell-phone adapters will do the job too). The third one is a spare,that > > can be used for anything like a spotlight, a camera...) > > > > Today, the only battery left on board is a 9V dry-cell for the Intercom. But > > that one lasts forever, provided, of course, that you remeber to switch the > > Intercom off after landing! > > > > Serge Vidal > > KR2 ZS-WEC > > Johannesburg, South Africa > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:33:01 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: news letter/ elevator weight Message-ID: <003d01c29fdb$51fa2f40$0101a8c0@net> ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C29F98.4265AC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was going to stay out of this, But... I do not personally know = either of you, although I have had the pleasure of talking to Larry on = the phone a few times. I have also read every post on KRnet in the last = 3 years since I started building. What I have seen is Larry has always = been upfront with the newsletter, stating(often) from the beginning that = it was a dubious proposition to keep it going. Mr. Blankenship, I = think the fact that Larry did NOT procede to publish the = newsletter(thereby NOT spending the money), and has offered more than = once offered to return ALL moneys sent to him,(basically frofeiting his = costs) way before you "demanded" him to do so. I personally think he = has shown reasonable and responsible judgment in his decision. I do = not recall at any time Larry accusing YOU of anything without you first = sending posts that I personally think were unjust ,bordering on = infantile. I think the fact that most people offered to send additional = money to Larry to try to keep the newsletter going, speaks volumes of = the support for Larry( and the krnet in general). How many people sent = you money? or would? Mr. Blankenship, If you disagree with me fine. = want to send me nasty e-mails, fine. I just ask you do not use krnet for = your rantings. synergydesign@sopris.net ,feel free. Please stop = posting this topic on krnet. To Dan heath(and netters) my horiz. = stab/elevator alone weighs just under 9 lbs. not quite finished, I think = it will come in around 12 finished(14 tops!). It is 4 inches longer per = side than stock, with 1-2 inch less cord on elevator. Thanks, Jim = Sporka, kr2s, corvair, colorado ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C29F98.4265AC00-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************