From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 14 Dec 2002 23:52:56 -0000 Issue 577 Date: Saturday, December 14, 2002 3:53 PM krnet Digest 14 Dec 2002 23:52:56 -0000 Issue 577 Topics (messages 13812 through 13837): Re: 3D CAD DXF DWG or DGN of KR-1, KR-2 or KR-2S 13812 by: Mark Langford 13817 by: Justin 13818 by: LORDYN1.aol.com Engine for sale 13813 by: JEAN VERON 13815 by: Kevin Jones 13821 by: JEAN VERON 13826 by: Justin Re: aircraft brake fluid 13814 by: Kr2dream.aol.com 13819 by: larry flesner Re: Cleaning Plexiglas 13816 by: Rick Wilson 13820 by: larry flesner 13824 by: wstarrs 13825 by: Brian Kraut 13827 by: Dennis Witherspoon 13828 by: Bill Higdon 13832 by: Robert Stone 13833 by: Brian Kraut 13834 by: David McKelvey 13837 by: Robert Stone Sport Plane 13822 by: larry flesner 13831 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com Re: Cleaning Vomit OFF TOPIC 13823 by: Frank Ross Installation of Matco brakes? 13829 by: RCTRVLR.aol.com 13830 by: Mark Langford 13835 by: Dan Heath Plex. 13836 by: Patrick Driscoll Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:01:55 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> 3D CAD DXF DWG or DGN of KR-1, KR-2 or KR-2S Message-ID: <00d801c2a31d$293a2250$0100a8c0@TD310> Brian Kraut wrote: > Mark Langford has done a lot of CAD drawing of his modified KR. Mark, > are any of these available? Although I've done plenty of solid modeling myself, somebody else is always paying me to do it for them, and it's not on my KR. When I first started building this thing I didn't see the need, since I had "plans" that I expected would eliminate the need for it. If I ever design my own plane, I'll solid model every stinkin' detail so that I can do interference checks and make sure everything fits perfectly before I ever start construction, but that won't be any time soon. Solid modeling forces you to think every detail through, so that by the time you build the real thing, you've solved every single problem, and have every part on hand. That's also how we built our house, and it worked like a charm ( see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/mhouse.jpg ). That's also how my company designed and built an aircraft loader ( see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/loader.jpg ). So, go fish... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:41:39 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Justin Subject: Re: KR> 3D CAD DXF DWG or DGN of KR-1, KR-2 or KR-2S Message-ID: <3DFAA873.3000706@socal.rr.com> I have a Cessna 150 in CAD format if anyone would like?? I could "convert" the KR if someone sends me the KR for Flight Simulator. Justin Brian Kraut wrote: > A big part of my job is AutoCad 3D design and photorealistic > renderings of bridges of ships. I have been looking for a 3D CAD > model of the KR and a Lancair for a while. The closest I have come up > with so far is a 150. Let me know if you find either. > > Mark Langford has done a lot of CAD drawing of his modified KR. Mark, > are any of these available? > > Jerry Conners wrote: > >> Has Rand authorized or otherwise approved the release >> of 3D CAD files for the KR aircraft. If so, how can I >> obtain copies and what is the price? >> >> Jer >> >> ===== >> Jerry L. Conners, PE >> Civil Engineer >> Comstock Aeronautics and Engineering >> 775-688-1281 (work) 775-688-1282 (FAX) >> 775-847-0214 (home) 775-720-6079 (cell) >> PO Box 509 >> Virginia City, Nevada 89440 >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >> http://mailplus.yahoo.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For >> additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For > additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 07:44:52 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: LORDYN1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> 3D CAD DXF DWG or DGN of KR-1, KR-2 or KR-2S Message-ID: <84.49d0239.2b2c81c4@aol.com> --part1_84.49d0239.2b2c81c4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/13/02 4:57:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, jconners_98@yahoo.com writes: I would like to receive a copy of the 3D CAD files for the KR aircraft. If so, how can I obtain copies and what is the price, My email is : lordyn1@aol.com Thanks, Loren --part1_84.49d0239.2b2c81c4_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:55:19 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Engine for sale Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2A3B3.1CB6A300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have decided that if i can't sell N4DD as a whole airplane then I will= Part it out. I will start with the firewall forward package first. Once = it sells then the other stuff will go. The engine is a Cont O-200 approx.= 45 hrs SMOH. New crank, new Slick mags, new main, rod and cam bearings (= new configuration). The engine mount is custom made to put the attach poi= nts closer to the longerons. Sabre prop extension. Choice of Sterba or 3 = blade ground adjustable Warp Drive prop and spinner to match. Price is $6= ,500. You can come to Tulsa and see it run. =20 After all the good stuff is gone I'm going to put a dummy VW engine on i= t, original go-cart wheels, non working instruments, old radio and a good= paint job on it and give it to a museum. That is the plan. Anyone interested E-mail me direct. Jean Veron N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2A3B3.1CB6A300-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:38:17 -0500 To: From: "Kevin Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Engine for sale Message-ID: <017b01c2a322$3f246300$4bebfea9@TheMonster> In your view, would N4DD qualify as an ultralight? I suppose that question is insulting to a true KR person but hear me out. I have 2000 hours and hold a comercial ticket. But because I have had past medical probelems I haven't been able to get a medical. That means I can only fly an ultra. If you could make a case for it being an ultra then I would ask you what yoou are asking for it.Contact me off list at kevin-jones@snet.net. kj ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEAN VERON" To: "KRNet" Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: KR> Engine for sale I have decided that if i can't sell N4DD as a whole airplane then I will Part it out. I will start with the firewall forward package first. Once it sells then the other stuff will go. The engine is a Cont O-200 approx. 45 hrs SMOH. New crank, new Slick mags, new main, rod and cam bearings (new configuration). The engine mount is custom made to put the attach points closer to the longerons. Sabre prop extension. Choice of Sterba or 3 blade ground adjustable Warp Drive prop and spinner to match. Price is $6,500. You can come to Tulsa and see it run. After all the good stuff is gone I'm going to put a dummy VW engine on it, original go-cart wheels, non working instruments, old radio and a good paint job on it and give it to a museum. That is the plan. Anyone interested E-mail me direct. Jean Veron N4DD Broken Arrow, OK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 07:55:55 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: KR> Engine for sale Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2A40F.65CD1900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No its too heavy and too fast. Empty wt. 660 lbs. 165 mph. Although it ma= y qualify for the new sport plane. Not sure. Jean =20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Jones Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:38 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Engine for sale =20 In your view, would N4DD qualify as an ultralight? I suppose that question is insulting to a true KR person but hear me out. I have 2000 ho= urs and hold a comercial ticket. But because I have had past medical probelem= s I haven't been able to get a medical. That means I can only fly an ultra. If you could make a case for it being an ultra then I would ask you w= hat yoou are asking for it.Contact me off list at kevin-jones@snet.net. kj ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEAN VERON" To: "KRNet" Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: KR> Engine for sale I have decided that if i can't sell N4DD as a whole airplane then I will Part it out. I will start with the firewall forward package first. Once i= t sells then the other stuff will go. The engine is a Cont O-200 approx. 45 hrs SMOH. New crank, new Slick mags, new main, rod and cam bearings (new configuration). The engine mount is custom made to put the attach points closer to the longerons. Sabre prop extension. Choice of Sterba or 3 blad= e ground adjustable Warp Drive prop and spinner to match. Price is $6,500. = You can come to Tulsa and see it run. After all the good stuff is gone I'm going to put a dummy VW engine on it= , original go-cart wheels, non working instruments, old radio and a good pa= int job on it and give it to a museum. That is the plan. Anyone interested E-mail me direct. Jean Veron N4DD Broken Arrow, OK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01C2A40F.65CD1900-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:51:40 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Justin Subject: Re: KR> Engine for sale Message-ID: <3DFB457C.20103@socal.rr.com> How much are you asking for your plane? Justin JEAN VERON wrote: >No its too heavy and too fast. Empty wt. 660 lbs. 165 mph. Although it may qualify for the new sport plane. Not sure. >Jean > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kevin Jones >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:38 PM >To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> Engine for sale > > In your view, would N4DD qualify as an ultralight? I suppose that >question is insulting to a true KR person but hear me out. I have 2000 hours >and hold a comercial ticket. But because I have had past medical probelems I >haven't been able to get a medical. That means I can only fly an ultra. > If you could make a case for it being an ultra then I would ask you what >yoou are asking for it.Contact me off list at kevin-jones@snet.net. >kj > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JEAN VERON" >To: "KRNet" >Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:55 PM >Subject: KR> Engine for sale > > >I have decided that if i can't sell N4DD as a whole airplane then I will >Part it out. I will start with the firewall forward package first. Once it >sells then the other stuff will go. The engine is a Cont O-200 approx. 45 >hrs SMOH. New crank, new Slick mags, new main, rod and cam bearings (new >configuration). The engine mount is custom made to put the attach points >closer to the longerons. Sabre prop extension. Choice of Sterba or 3 blade >ground adjustable Warp Drive prop and spinner to match. Price is $6,500. You >can come to Tulsa and see it run. >After all the good stuff is gone I'm going to put a dummy VW engine on it, >original go-cart wheels, non working instruments, old radio and a good paint >job on it and give it to a museum. >That is the plan. Anyone interested E-mail me direct. >Jean Veron >N4DD >Broken Arrow, OK > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:31:45 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kr2dream@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> aircraft brake fluid Message-ID: <75.494bbf2.2b2c0021@aol.com> --part1_75.494bbf2.2b2c0021_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The local FBO told me last week that red aircraft brake fluid is actually hydraulic fluid and gave me what I needed at no charge since they get it in large bulk. I needed some to top off the reservoir in my Bonanza. Bob Lasecki Chicago --part1_75.494bbf2.2b2c0021_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 07:39:34 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: aircraft brake fluid Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021214073934.008d23c0@mail.midwest.net> >Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is any fluid that can >be substituted for mil spec red brake fluid where it >is called for in brake master cylinders? I was hoping >there would be something I could get locally instead >of waiting a week for just one pint if I have to order >it. Thanks, Rickey Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rick, Try the local airport. They would probably give you some if you replaced it next week. Someone in your area has some. You just have to locate it! :-) Good luck. Larry Flesner flesner@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:34:22 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, engalt@earthlink.net From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-ID: <20021214043422.4200.qmail@web21209.mail.yahoo.com> Brian, For some reason the living room floor feels like a perfectly natural place to put together an aircraft engine.(to me anyway) but, like your's my wife didn't really see it that way. Rick Wilson. --- Brian Kraut wrote: > I have found that Gumout removes graphite engine > assembly grease, > vomit(college drinking days), and about any other > stain from carpet. I > refer to it as Gumout carpet and choke cleaner. > Also gets oil stains > off the garage floor. > > I have never had any problems with it hurting nylon > carpet, but test it > in a small spot first and don't yell at me if your > wife chews you out > for ruining a dyed carpet or upholstery on the > couch. You shouldn't be > assembling your aircraft engine on the living room > floor anyway. That > is exactly what my wife tells me. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 07:40:08 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021214074008.008d4250@mail.midwest.net> >I have found that Gumout removes graphite engine assembly grease, >vomit(college drinking days), and about any other stain from carpet. I >refer to it as Gumout carpet and choke cleaner. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brian, I can buy the drink till you vomit thing but you MUST tell us how you came to TRY the Gumout cleanup bit. I'm racking my brain and can't come up with even a hint. Larry Flesner flesner@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 07:15:31 -0700 To: From: "wstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-ID: <003001c2a37b$439d91a0$9200a8c0@bstarrs> Your right the living room floor is NOT the place to assemble your engen. Tha Dinning room table is the proper place. Bill Starrs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas > Brian, For some reason the living room floor feels > like a perfectly natural place to put together an > aircraft engine.(to me anyway) but, like your's my > wife didn't really see it that way. Rick Wilson. > --- Brian Kraut wrote: > > I have found that Gumout removes graphite engine > > assembly grease, > > vomit(college drinking days), and about any other > > stain from carpet. I > > refer to it as Gumout carpet and choke cleaner. > > Also gets oil stains > > off the garage floor. > > > > I have never had any problems with it hurting nylon > > carpet, but test it > > in a small spot first and don't yell at me if your > > wife chews you out > > for ruining a dyed carpet or upholstery on the > > couch. You shouldn't be > > assembling your aircraft engine on the living room > > floor anyway. 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Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:50:24 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-ID: <3DFCB2D0.9000008@earthlink.net> --------------040802040406000106010200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rebuilding the engine on my Honda three wheeler on my fathers living room floor while he was out on a piece of cardboard that was not quite big enough. I tried everything else to get out the graphite grease when I noticed the can of Gumout that I had been using to clean engine parts. I used two layers of big cardboard pieces when I did the KR engine and I am happy to say that I didn't need to Gumout my living room carpet this time, but I did use it to get some oil off of a new pair of jeans that my wife yelled at me to change before I got them dirty. Necessity and not wanting to get yelled at for something you should have known better about are the mother and father of invention. larry flesner wrote: >>I have found that Gumout removes graphite engine assembly grease, >>vomit(college drinking days), and about any other stain from carpet. I >>refer to it as Gumout carpet and choke cleaner. >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Brian, > >I can buy the drink till you vomit thing but you MUST tell us >how you came to TRY the Gumout cleanup bit. I'm racking >my brain and can't come up with even a hint. > >Larry Flesner >flesner@midwest.net > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------040802040406000106010200-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:09:34 -0800 To: From: "Dennis Witherspoon" Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-ID: <000901c2a3a4$58330d60$70aeefd8@dennis> Im glad to see all these ideas on cleaning plexiglass, the other day I was just testing an older can of zink chromate on the wing strutes of my baby ace. It seemed to work just fine so I kept spraying untill the job was done only then did I think about the KR-2 setting under the baby aces wing. Now I have zink chromate all over the canopy of the KR-2 and its wing. My wife looked at it and said it didnt surprise her. I t looks like I will be trying everyones idea on cleaning it, thanks Dennis Witherspoon, Shedd Oregon, N 99LZ -----Original Message----- From: Wayne McMullen To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:21 AM Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas >Use the household polish, Pledge. Works on my Cessna 182. > >Wayne > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JIM VANCE" >To: "kr net" >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:24 AM >Subject: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas > > >I used clear packaging tape to protect my Plexiglas during the construction >process. When I started removing it, there were places where the adhesive >stuck to the Plexiglas. Does someone have a method to clean this up without >marring the Plexiglas? > >Thanks. > > Jim Vance > > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 11:16:37 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Bill Higdon Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-ID: <3DFB8395.4080302@attbi.com> At least the paint wasn't a catalyzed acrylic, epoxy, or ureathane, when those have cured, they are very hard to get off. Bill Higdon Dennis Witherspoon wrote: > Im glad to see all these ideas on cleaning plexiglass, the other day I was > just testing an older can of zink chromate on the wing strutes of my baby > ace. It seemed to work just fine so I kept spraying untill the job was done > only then did I think about the KR-2 setting under the baby aces wing. Now > I have zink chromate all over the canopy of the KR-2 and its wing. My wife > looked at it and said it didnt surprise her. I t looks like I will be > trying everyones idea on cleaning it, thanks Dennis Witherspoon, Shedd > Oregon, N 99LZ -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne McMullen > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Date: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:21 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas > > > >>Use the household polish, Pledge. Works on my Cessna 182. >> >>Wayne >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "JIM VANCE" >>To: "kr net" >>Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:24 AM >>Subject: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas >> >> >>I used clear packaging tape to protect my Plexiglas during the construction >>process. When I started removing it, there were places where the adhesive >>stuck to the Plexiglas. Does someone have a method to clean this up > > without > >>marring the Plexiglas? >> >>Thanks. >> >> Jim Vance >> >> Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 13:45:10 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Cleaning plexiglas Message-ID: <001501c2a3a9$4ffd5c40$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2A377.050EFFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, For what it's worth, when I was in maintenance in the US Air Force = many years ago the approved method of cleaning and polishing Plexiglas = on aircraft was with a mixture of turpentine and ground up chalk. The = chalk was ground up in a bowl and turpentine added to make a watery = paste. This provided just enough abrasive to clean and polish the = Plexiglas without changing the optics or damaging the Plexiglas in any = way. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2A377.050EFFE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:03:10 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas Message-ID: <3DFB8E7E.7020305@earthlink.net> --------------080401050908040802040009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you can't clean it off you can always sand it off with 600 paper then polish the plex with Micro Mesh. Dennis Witherspoon wrote: >Im glad to see all these ideas on cleaning plexiglass, the other day I was >just testing an older can of zink chromate on the wing strutes of my baby >ace. It seemed to work just fine so I kept spraying untill the job was done >only then did I think about the KR-2 setting under the baby aces wing. Now >I have zink chromate all over the canopy of the KR-2 and its wing. My wife >looked at it and said it didnt surprise her. I t looks like I will be >trying everyones idea on cleaning it, thanks Dennis Witherspoon, Shedd >Oregon, N 99LZ -----Original Message----- >From: Wayne McMullen >To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Date: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:21 AM >Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas > > >>Use the household polish, Pledge. Works on my Cessna 182. >> >>Wayne >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "JIM VANCE" >>To: "kr net" >>Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:24 AM >>Subject: KR> Cleaning Plexiglas >> >> >>I used clear packaging tape to protect my Plexiglas during the construction >>process. When I started removing it, there were places where the adhesive >>stuck to the Plexiglas. Does someone have a method to clean this up >> >without > >>marring the Plexiglas? >> >>Thanks. >> >> Jim Vance >> >> Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >>See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------080401050908040802040009-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:03:38 -0600 To: From: "David McKelvey" Subject: RE: KR> Cleaning plexiglas Message-ID: How many years ago was that?!? -----Original Message----- From: Robert Stone [mailto:rstone4@hot.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:45 PM To: KRNet Subject: KR> Cleaning plexiglas Netters, For what it's worth, when I was in maintenance in the US Air Force many years ago the approved method of cleaning and polishing Plexiglas on aircraft was with a mixture of turpentine and ground up chalk. The chalk was ground up in a bowl and turpentine added to make a watery paste. This provided just enough abrasive to clean and polish the Plexiglas without changing the optics or damaging the Plexiglas in any way. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:53:18 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning plexiglas Message-ID: <000a01c2a3cb$fa064a40$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Dave, Like I said a long time ago. I retired in 1967 with 22 years service. I am sure the Air Force has come up with a better product by now but back in those days that's the way we did it. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McKelvey" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: RE: KR> Cleaning plexiglas > How many years ago was that?!? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Stone [mailto:rstone4@hot.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:45 PM > To: KRNet > Subject: KR> Cleaning plexiglas > > > Netters, > For what it's worth, when I was in maintenance in the US Air Force many > years ago the approved method of cleaning and polishing Plexiglas on > aircraft was with a mixture of turpentine and ground up chalk. The chalk > was ground up in a bowl and turpentine added to make a watery paste. This > provided just enough abrasive to clean and polish the Plexiglas without > changing the optics or damaging the Plexiglas in any way. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 07:58:51 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Sport Plane Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021214075851.0087a3f0@mail.midwest.net> >At 07:55 AM 12/15/02 -0600, you wrote: >No its too heavy and too fast. Empty wt. 660 lbs. 165 mph. Although it may qualify for the new sport plane. Not sure. >Jean >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I think the new Sport Plane speed limit is 128 mph or there about and the stall is 44 mph max. (?) Weight limit is 1232 or something. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:32:47 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Message-ID: --part1_a8.16734483.2b2ce15f_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="a8.16734483_alt_bound" --a8.16734483_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From what I have been reading about the sport plane category, in my opinion, the KR2 will not fit into the sport plane category. Their are too many criteria that will not make the Sport planes stats. Again, this is just my opinion. Ray --a8.16734483_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    From what I have been reading about the sport plane category, in my opinion, the KR2 will not fit into the sport plane category. Their are too many criteria that will not make the Sport planes stats. Again, this is just my opinion.

        Ray
--a8.16734483_alt_bound-- --part1_a8.16734483.2b2ce15f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 06:11:42 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Cleaning Vomit OFF TOPIC Message-ID: <20021214141142.59023.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> --- larry flesner wrote: > >I have found that Gumout removes graphite engine > assembly grease, > >vomit(college drinking days), and about any other > stain from carpet. I > >refer to it as Gumout carpet and choke cleaner. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Brian, > > I can buy the drink till you vomit thing but you > MUST tell us > how you came to TRY the Gumout cleanup bit. I'm > racking > my brain and can't come up with even a hint. > > Larry Flesner > flesner@midwest.net Larry, It's obvious. College guys who drink till they vomit don't have any other cleaning supplies around except Gumout, or something like that. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:23:47 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: RCTRVLR@aol.com Subject: Installation of Matco brakes? Message-ID: <19f.d630f60.2b2cdf43@aol.com> --part1_19f.d630f60.2b2cdf43_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="19f.d630f60_alt_bound" --19f.d630f60_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would appreciate any feedback on what you think the best way to install the Matco brake heel or toe Master cylinder to the pedals, Is it best to attach them to the pedals or to the floor or foreword wall? If anybody has any good pics of their application I would greatly appreciate a look. I have my plane upside down and all the retract gear is off. I am going to order the Deihl trigear soon, Xmass kinda broke the piggy bank for now, so after the holidays I will be ordering the new gear, I have the Matco hydraulic brake system now, so I can start on the installation of the master cylinder. Thanks Ray --19f.d630f60_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    I would appreciate any feedback on what you think the best way to install the Matco brake heel or toe Master cylinder to the pedals, Is it best to attach them to the pedals or to the floor or foreword wall? If anybody has any good pics of their application I would greatly appreciate a look. I have my plane upside down and all the retract gear is off. I am going to order the Deihl trigear soon, Xmass kinda broke the piggy bank for now, so after the holidays I will be ordering the new gear, I have the Matco hydraulic brake system now, so I can start on the installation of the master cylinder. Thanks

         Ray
--19f.d630f60_alt_bound-- --part1_19f.d630f60.2b2cdf43_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 13:32:26 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Installation of Matco brakes? Message-ID: <014601c2a3a7$88d08cb0$0100a8c0@TD310> ------=_NextPart_000_0143_01C2A375.3DDA6820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray wrote: > Is it best to attach them to the pedals or to the floor or foreword = wall?< I'm not sure how you'd mount them to the firewall and still have room = for the pedal s to pivot, but I suppose it could be done. Some folks = hang them from the shelf behind the firewall, which works too. There = are some photos of how mine were mounted to the floor down at the bottom = of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kcontrol.html . I can already see = one improvement though, which iis shown in a photo that I took at Pine = Bluff (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/01092120.jpg ) = . This setup allows the pivot point to move with the pedals, resulting = in some sweet pedal geometry... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_0143_01C2A375.3DDA6820-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:32:13 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Installation of Matco brakes? Message-Id: <3DFBBF7C.000001.01004@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_PPU4QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_PPU4LVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_PPU4LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got you call for help, so I went out to the shop, got some pictures and made you a page on the site. It is under Post Of The Week, or you can us= e this link to keep from passing GO.=0D =0D http://kr-builder.org/BrakesAndGear/index.html=0D =0D I am not positive that these are Matco, but if they look like yours, they probably are. I hope this is of some help to you.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:24:23 AM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> Installation of Matco brakes?=0D =0D I would appreciate any feedback on what you think the best way to inst= all the Matco brake heel or toe Master cylinder to the pedals, Is it best to attach them to the pedals or to the floor or foreword wall? If anybody ha= s any good pics of their application I would greatly appreciate a look. I h= ave my plane upside down and all the retract gear is off. I am going to order the Deihl trigear soon, Xmass kinda broke the piggy bank for now, so afte= r the holidays I will be ordering the new gear, I have the Matco hydraulic brake system now, so I can start on the installation of the master cylind= er. Thanks=0D =0D Ray=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_PPU4LVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I got you call for help, so I went out to the shop, got some picture= s and made you a page on the site.  It is under Post Of Th= e Week, or you can use this link to keep from passing GO.
 
 
I am not positive that these are Matco, but if they look like yours,= they probably are.  I hope this is of some help to you. 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

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Date: Saturday, De= cember 14, 2002 11:24:23 AM
Subject: KR> In= stallation of Matco brakes?
 
   I would appreciate any feedback o= n what you think the best way to install the Matco brake heel or toe Mast= er cylinder to the pedals, Is it best to attach them to the pedals or to = the floor or foreword wall? If anybody has any good pics of their applica= tion I would greatly appreciate a look. I have my plane upside down and a= ll the retract gear is off. I am going to order the Deihl trigear soon, X= mass kinda broke the piggy bank for now, so after the holidays I will be = ordering the new gear, I have the Matco hydraulic brake system now, so I = can start on the installation of the master cylinder. Thanks

 = ;        Ray
 
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--------------Boundary-00=_PPU4LVC0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_PPU4QL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:41:44 -0600 To: "KR Net Mail" From: "Patrick Driscoll" Subject: Plex. Message-ID: <005f01c2a3c1$fab867c0$2f219ecd@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2A38F.AF86E7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I was in the Air Force Aero Club at Davis Monthan AFB AZ (1957) we = used Colgate Toothpaste, after some very fine sandpaper, to remove = scratches and polish the Plexiglas. Got the idea from one of the guy's wives that said she used Colgate = to polish radio crystals to the right freq. Pat Driscoll ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C2A38F.AF86E7E0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************