From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 10 Jan 2003 16:57:08 -0000 Issue 603 Date: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:57 AM krnet Digest 10 Jan 2003 16:57:08 -0000 Issue 603 Topics (messages 14400 through 14428): Re: Subaru or Corvair 14400 by: Dan Heath Re: center stick/tailwheel 14401 by: Dan Heath Corvair.....again 14402 by: Kevin 14403 by: Mark Langford fuel pump, Corvair 14404 by: Mark Langford Bill Clapp - Bounced Check 14405 by: smahaini 14406 by: Ronevogt.aol.com 14407 by: smahaini 14411 by: Rick Wilson 14422 by: smahaini the case for camber; brakes 14408 by: Oscar Zuniga For Sale 14409 by: Hartman Malcolm L CMSgt 926 MXS/LGMV marvel-schebler carburetors on corvair engine 14410 by: Carrottop104.aol.com Re: Deihl Gear legs 14412 by: Rick Wilson 14416 by: Steve Glover 14427 by: Ron Thomas Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection 14413 by: Carrottop104.aol.com 14423 by: Anthony Underwood 14424 by: Bill Higdon 14428 by: Mark Langford Re: Center stick 14414 by: Louis Staalberg 14417 by: Dan Heath 14418 by: Mark Langford 14420 by: virgnvs.juno.com 14421 by: Brian J Bland CRI CRI 14415 by: Larry Re: juggling KRs 14419 by: Robert Stone fuel injection corvair. xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com 14425 by: Carrottop104.aol.com 14426 by: Ron Eason Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 06:05:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Subaru or Corvair Message-Id: <3E1D81B5.000001.00808@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_HT9GQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: I never thought of replacing a 4 cylinder engine with a 6 cylinder=0D engine.=0D =0D Welcome to the KR Net.=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 07:27:03 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> Subaru or Corvair=0D =0D Weight. I never thought of replacing a 4 cylinder engine with a 6 cylinde= r=0D engine.=0D =0D Kevin.=0D =0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Dan Heath" =0D To: =0D Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:14 PM=0D Subject: Re: KR> Subaru or Corvair=0D =0D =0D Is this news? Why did you think that you could not use a Corvair? I ask=0D only out of curiosity.=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 06:02:17 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> Subaru or Corvair=0D =0D I have to ask. Are you using aluminum cylinders on a Corvair conversion,=0D and if so, where do I get em? If a Corvair would work on a KR2s, I would=0D consider building one. This will make no friends on this site, but I alwa= ys=0D considered the KR2 to be a single place fat man airplane when it has a VW= =0D engine on it. With the KR2s being bigger, it seemed it would be better, b= ut=0D I still didn't like the VW power. Nothing against VWs as I own about 3 VW= s=0D and one VW street buggy, built by me. I also was a member of the Mo-Kan V= W=0D club for years. I just don't like VW engines pulling 2 180+ pounders=0D around. I know........Build it light and it will be fine. KR2s with 100=0D HP.........now that sounds like a plane to me. My story and I'm sticking = to=0D it.=0D =0D Where do I get those aluminum Corvair cylinders?=0D =0D Kevin=0D =0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Geroge Vandor" =0D To: ; "Mark Langford" =0D Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:38 AM=0D Subject: Re: KR> Subaru or Corvair=0D =0D =0D >=0D > ----- Original Message -----=0D > From: "Mark Langford" =0D > To: =0D > Cc: =0D > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:00 PM=0D > Subject: Re: KR> Subaru or Corvair=0D >=0D >=0D > > Scott Cable wrote:=0D > >=0D > > > My question is this, Should I go through all of the=0D > > > hassle of a pretty complex firewall forward=0D > > > installation, (I was not planning on using a reduction=0D > > > drive, and mount the prop directly to the crank.=0D > > > Adjust power output by adjusting the turbo and=0D > > > in-flight adjustable prop.) or just sell the 'Sube and=0D > > > exchange it for a Corvair instead?=0D > >=0D > > In the last year two guys on the CorvAircraft list pulled Subarus off= =0D > their=0D > > airplanes and weighed EVERYTHING, including the water, firewall forwa= rd.=0D > > The end result was something like 280-285 pounds. The consensus on a=0D > > similar comparson for the Vair would be 240-245 pounds. With the smal= l=0D > > diameter prop we use on the KR, you can turn the "standard" CorvAircr= aft=0D > > engine up to 110 hp easily, and I'll bet mine will do 130hp (while=0D > weighing=0D > > a few pounds less, due to the lighter VW pistons/cylinders). And thes= e=0D > > things are just loafing along at 3500 rpm. The 150 and 180 hp version= s=0D > used=0D > > exactly the same bottom end (well they nitrided the crank on the turb= os,=0D > but=0D > > otherwise identical).=0D > >=0D > > The thing that makes me nervous about water cooled engines is that=0D "extra"=0D > > mode of failure, a leak. A water-cooled engine with no water won't=0D last=0D > 5=0D > > minutes at the high power settings required to stay aloft. Turbos fai= l=0D > too.=0D > > Constant speed prop? There's another mode of failure.=0D > >=0D > > Ask Steve Makish (he had a Sube too, and replaced it) what happens wh= en=0D > one=0D > > entire cylinder of a 6-cylinder Corvair quits. It's down a few hundre= d=0D > RPM,=0D > > but not enough concern for a precautionary landing! He's had a VW Typ= e=0D 1,=0D > a=0D > > Type 4 , a Subaru, and now the Corvair on his KR2, and I think now he= 's=0D > > finally happy. See a photo of his engine in his KR at=0D > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/snf2002/020409054.jpg , and more at=0D > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/snf2002/ .=0D > >=0D > > I won't kid you though. I'm extremely prejudiced in favor of the=0D > Corvair...=0D > > hy mark!what horse power can a sub..81 develop direct drive turning a= =0D > 52"prop at 3800 rpm? thanks ..george vandor..=0D > > Learn more at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/=0D > >=0D > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL=0D > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net=0D > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford=0D > >=0D > >=0D > >=0D > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= =0D > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D > >=0D > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=0D > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D > >=0D > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D > >=0D > >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D >=0D > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=0D > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D >=0D > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D >=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E.=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_HT9GQL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 06:07:50 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> center stick/tailwheel Message-Id: <3E1D8235.000003.00808@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_2X9GG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim,=0D =0D You can send them to me and I will link them to a page on our site for yo= u,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 06:56:12 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> center stick/tailwheel=0D =0D To everyone that wants pics of the stick, I just acquired a digital cam. = As soon as I can , Ill take pics and post on kr-net. My understanding on = kr-net is I cannot send these as an attachment. Any advice on how to post= the pics is very welcome .(never done this before.) As for the tail whee= l, I picked up some scooter wheels at sprawl-mart with a 5 spoke aluminum= hub. 1" wide /4"dia. I figure the aluminum hub has to be way stronger th= an a plastic one. Weight 235 g. 2 fer 3 bucks! Thanks, Jim Sporka --------------Boundary-00=_2X9GG6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 05:21:07 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: " Kevin" Subject: Corvair.....again Message-ID: Thanks Dan. I have been enjoying the KR group. More questions on the Corvair. When using the distributor for ignition, is anything done to the distributor drive shaft bushings? I saw the original E-racer busted up badly because of its aluminum V8 engine twisted the distributor shaft until it broke. This happened shortly after takeoff in IA. When running a distributor, they really need to have ball bearings on the drive shaft. Maybe this only applies to engines running reduction drives and spinning the engine up to the higher RPMs than originally designed for. I like electronic ignition, but 15 years ago I had a Ford Tempo leave me on the side of the road because of an ignition module. This wasn't a rare case as the Ford garage said it happened all the time. Anyway, what about this distributor thang? Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:59:53 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Corvair.....again Message-ID: <002501c2b7ef$c49c2770$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Kevin wrote: > More questions on the Corvair. When using the distributor for ignition, is > anything done to the distributor drive shaft bushings? No, nothing at all. Never been a failure of any kind in an airplane, but I'm sure they're rare (if ever) on VWs too. I don't mean to throw water on you, but you'd have a lot better luck with a meaningful answer if you'd post that to the CorvAircraft list where there are several real-live Corvair experts who've been rebuilding, hotrodding, selling parts, and even manufacturing new parts for them. The CorvAircraft list is just like this one, same server, same format, same everything. You may subscribe by sending a message with "subscribe corvaircraft" in the body to corvaircraft-subscribe@mailinglists.org. As I said before, there's also a lot more info on Corvairs in airplanes on my Corvair website at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/index.html ... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:05:40 -0600 To: , "Mark Langford" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: fuel pump, Corvair Message-ID: <002d01c2b7f0$93002710$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> And here is another comment from Steve Makish to a question I asked about his compression ratio. "Stock" is 9.25:1. There is also some info that pertains to the fuel pump discussion we had last week. "Bob" is Bob Lester, who just installed a Vair in place of the Soob engine that everybody drooled over (he won about three awards) at the 2001 Gathering (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/ , down near the bottom, I believe). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The compression ratio is stock, but my advance is set at 30 degrees. I can fly with mid grade auto OK, but the low grade does cause some pinging once in a while. Bob flew his last week and it has some mixture problems. He is using that marvel schebler carb, which to me is a tractor carb with a mixture control. I think he needs a fuel pump as the 14 inches or so head pressure does not feed it too well. How are you coming along with yours? Please keep me advised. PS, I am using a facet 2-4 psi pump, with a regulator set at 1/2 psi to the revflo. It seems to like this as it is very close to gravity feed. I can fly with the pump shut off at about 2500 rpm. This is my limp mode. At 2500, it still indicates about 135 and 3.5 gph. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:16:41 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: smahaini Subject: Bill Clapp - Bounced Check Message-id: <021001c2b7fa$7f044b10$534932a6@rcc07086> --Boundary_(ID_lEkfDq0R/YrJ4dstmTNyHA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, Does anyone know how to get hold of Bill Clapp. He send me a check for an Icom A-21 handheld radio he bought from me, and the check bounced. He is not returning my emails nor my voice mail. Anyone else had similar problem with Bill? Any ideas Thanks, Saad --Boundary_(ID_lEkfDq0R/YrJ4dstmTNyHA)-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:50:00 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ronevogt@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Bill Clapp - Bounced Check Message-ID: --part1_ff.21fbb9ed.2b4f0238_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd be Saad too if someone sent me a bad check. RV --part1_ff.21fbb9ed.2b4f0238_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:00:56 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: smahaini Subject: RE: KR> Bill Clapp - Bounced Check Message-id: <022601c2b800$ad33d040$534932a6@rcc07086> Agree, not just Saad, but had to pay my bank another $15 fee for depositing his rubber check. This make me Sad Saad -----Original Message----- From: Ronevogt@aol.com [mailto:Ronevogt@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:50 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Bill Clapp - Bounced Check I'd be Saad too if someone sent me a bad check. RV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:58:39 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: RE: KR> Bill Clapp - Bounced Check Message-ID: <20030109235839.92707.qmail@web21209.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I recall someone else having some dealings with Mr. Clapp a few months ago. I believe Mr. Clapp sent him something other than the landing gear he was supposed to be buying. The guy who bought the gear from him sent him around 1000.00 or so I think. He had a terrible time just getting any parts at all from him. I almost sent him money for the same landing gear but luckily I didn't. Rick Wilson. --- smahaini wrote: > Agree, not just Saad, but had to pay my bank another > $15 fee for > depositing his rubber check. This make me Sad Saad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronevogt@aol.com [mailto:Ronevogt@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:50 AM > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Bill Clapp - Bounced Check > > I'd be Saad too if someone sent me a bad check. > > RV > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:44:45 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: smahaini Subject: RE: KR> Bill Clapp - Bounced Check Message-id: <027401c2b8bf$333d12a0$534932a6@rcc07086> Thanks to everyone that emailed me about their experience with Bill Clapp. I learned that I'm not the only one that got scammed by Bill Clapp. Many others emailed me with their horror stories, including one story where the FBI, BBB, and DA office were contacted to help recover parts from Bill Clapp that he sold but never delivered. I'm glad I posted to this group, not just to get the answer to my question, but to the fact that this post helped expose a thief and a crook among us in this group. It will give people in this group a warning no to deal with this con artist. Thanks again, Saad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:47:57 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: the case for camber; brakes Message-ID: Dan wrote- >but can second the notion that there is a lot of camber. I am hoping >that some of it comes out when the plane is at its full weight, but am >concerned that it will not If I were as eloquent a writer as Virg, and as good at wry humor as "net mom" Randy Stein, I might reply: "drop plane in from 10-12 ft. to remove excess camber. -OZ" Sorry; I couldn't help it. But just to include something of worth in this post, may I mention that anyone who is put off by the cost and relative complexity of hydraulic brakes still has mechanical brake options. Mike Cuy used mechanical disk brakes on his award-winning Pietenpol; the setup is simple (Comet go-kart brakes) and he made his own disks to go with them. Cable operated. They are a better approach than the drum-and-shoe Azusa setup IMHO, and if they can do a good job on a Piet that grosses 1000 lbs. they should be fine on a KR. More info on parts that Mike used, and prices, is at http://www.gokartsupply.com/discbr.htm or a similar one at http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniBrakesDisc.html and I think the brakes are actually made by Manco. Not recommended to use the brake disks they sell for karts though; machine your own. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:54:44 -0600 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Hartman Malcolm L CMSgt 926 MXS/LGMV Subject: For Sale Message-ID: Complete Type IV engine, firewall forward plus other KR-2S parts. Contact me off the net. Malcolm.hartman@neworleans.af.mil (504)393-9133 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:40:46 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Carrottop104@aol.com Subject: marvel-schebler carburetors on corvair engine Message-ID: <188.13f4f792.2b4f465e@aol.com> I heard that someone out there is having a problem with mixture control on their KR with a marvel-shebler carb and a corvair engine. There can be more than one answer for this. The amount of power produced by a recip engine is determined by the quantity of the air and fuel entering the cylinders. The size of the venturi limits the maximun amount of air that can flow into the engine under wide open throttle condition. The same model of carburetor can be used on engines of various sizes by changing the venturi, the main metering jet, and the main air bleed jet. for a corvair engine I would use a MA-3 carb. A mixture of 15 pounds of air for every pound of gas burns with no excess oxygen, hydrogen, or carbon, and it would appear that the fuel metering system should be adjusted to this mixture. But the design of the induction system, the valve timing, and the amount of heat the engine can tolerate, all enter into choosing the correct mixture ratio for the existing conditions. Gasoline will burn with a mixture as rich as 8:1 and as lean as 18:1. When burned in a mixture richer than 15:1 there is not enough oxygen in the mixture for the fuel to release all of its energy, and an excess of carbon will appear as black smoke and soot. When the mixture is leaner than 15:1 there is more oxygen than needed for the fuel, so the fuel cannot release all of its energy. A carburetor is a very inefficient device for getting a uniform combustible mixture into the cylinders. The correct amount of fuel is metered and sprayed into the throat of the carb as droplets of liquid gasoline which evaporate to become fuel vapor. There is approximately 9,000 times the volume of air flowing into the engine as there is fuel, and the fuel vapor and air do not mix perfectly. The carburetor is connected to the intake ports of the various cylinders by induction pipes, which vary in length and have several bends in them. The air fuel vapor flowing into the cylinders dose not move in a steady stream, but in pulses caused by the low pressure each time the intake valve opens. These pulses cause the velocity, and there for the pressure, to vary along the intake pipe. Ideally, the fuel vapor and air would be perfectly mixed, and the pressure of the mixture would be maximum at the intake valve in order to get the greatest amount of mixture into the cylinder. But the pressure and the amount of mixing change all along the induction system, and they also change with engine speed. Some cylinders receive a rich mixture and others recive a leaner mixture. This uneven fuel-air mixture distribution has been a serious problem with reciprocating engines since the earliest days. As for not being able to adjust your mixture at all, or have little control over it. Maybe a dirty carb internally and needs an overhaul wrong size jets, air leaks between the carburetor and the intake manifold. Air leaking in around the butterfly shaft, Bushings can be worn out. I can be contacted at carrottop104@aol.com good luck Larry. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:01:30 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Deihl Gear legs Message-ID: <20030110000130.93357.qmail@web21209.mail.yahoo.com> Mr. Glover, I would like to buy the gear legs and brackets you have. Please send me your price and I'll see what I can do. Thanks, Rick Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com --- Steve Glover wrote: > Hello Netter's, > > I have a good used set of gear legs, spar attach > brackets, and lower brackets for a tri gear set-up > for sale. The lower bracket was drilled for a > Cleveland pattern. I bought the set for the wheels > and brakes that came with them but since I already > have the Deihl conventional set installed, I don't > need these. The first with the best Reasonable > offer plus shipping will get them. > > > I finally took my KR-2 to the airport (AJO) last > weekend. I have been final sanding and painting > this week and should have it completed by this > weekend. I am retrofitting the Cleveland wheels and > brakes and dumping the Enginetics set I have with > the Azusa wheels. I am hoping to be signed off for > flight in the next couple of weeks. It looks like I > will at least make the next Gathering. > > Steve Glover > Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. > n925sg@earthlink.net > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:25:52 -0800 To: From: "Steve Glover" Subject: Re: KR> Deihl Gear legs Message-ID: <001c01c2b860$5c75a420$c18afea9@IntelliSpec> Hi Rick, Someone has already inquired about the gear legs. If he doesn't take them, you are next in line. I figure $250.00 plus shipping is reasonable. That is less than half the cost of a new set. I'll let you know in the next day or two if the other party buys them. Regards, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: KR> Deihl Gear legs > Mr. Glover, I would like to buy the gear legs and > brackets you have. Please send me your price and I'll > see what I can do. Thanks, Rick Wilson. > rwdw2002@yahoo.com > --- Steve Glover wrote: > > Hello Netter's, > > > > I have a good used set of gear legs, spar attach > > brackets, and lower brackets for a tri gear set-up > > for sale. The lower bracket was drilled for a > > Cleveland pattern. I bought the set for the wheels > > and brakes that came with them but since I already > > have the Deihl conventional set installed, I don't > > need these. The first with the best Reasonable > > offer plus shipping will get them. > > > > > > I finally took my KR-2 to the airport (AJO) last > > weekend. I have been final sanding and painting > > this week and should have it completed by this > > weekend. I am retrofitting the Cleveland wheels and > > brakes and dumping the Enginetics set I have with > > the Azusa wheels. I am hoping to be signed off for > > flight in the next couple of weeks. It looks like I > > will at least make the next Gathering. > > > > Steve Glover > > Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. > > n925sg@earthlink.net > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:56:42 -0500 To: From: "Ron Thomas" Subject: Re: KR> Deihl Gear legs Message-ID: <012401c2b8c9$40977440$c843a8c0@faaguy> I thought you were trying to sell your KR. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glover" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: KR> Deihl Gear legs Hello Netter's, I have a good used set of gear legs, spar attach brackets, and lower brackets for a tri gear set-up for sale. The lower bracket was drilled for a Cleveland pattern. I bought the set for the wheels and brakes that came with them but since I already have the Deihl conventional set installed, I don't need these. The first with the best Reasonable offer plus shipping will get them. I finally took my KR-2 to the airport (AJO) last weekend. I have been final sanding and painting this week and should have it completed by this weekend. I am retrofitting the Cleveland wheels and brakes and dumping the Enginetics set I have with the Azusa wheels. I am hoping to be signed off for flight in the next couple of weeks. It looks like I will at least make the next Gathering. Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. n925sg@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 21:45:29 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Carrottop104@aol.com Subject: Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection Message-ID: <18a.143cdd3b.2b4f8dc9@aol.com>
Tim about your question about fuel injection on the corvair.  Two major 
limitations of a carburetor are that the fuel-air mixture is not uniform 
among the cylinders, and carburetors are subject to the formation or ice. The 
fuel injection systems used on modern aircraft engines are not direct 
injection systems, but are continuous-flow systems that deliver a low 
pressure continuous flow of fuel to nozzles installed in the intake valve 
chambers of the cylinders, just outside the valve. Fuel collects inside the 
nozzle when the intake valve is closed, and when it opens, this fuel, along 
with air from air bleed holes in the nozzle, is pulled into the cylinder.  
all of the fuel vaporizes and is mixed with the air from the induction system 
to provide uniform fuel-air mixture to each cylinder.  Vaporization of the 
fuel takes place in the intake valve chamber where there is no possibility of 
ice forming.  These systems are uncomplicated and efficient.  There are no 
computers, sensors or wiring involved.  I have not installed this type of 
injection system to a corvair engine, But if I were going to use fuel 
injection I would try to locate a Precision Airmotive RSA fuel injection 
system or a Teledine-continental fuel injection system because of their 
simplicity and reliability after you see the cost you may want to find a good 
carburetor.   Good luck  anything else contact me at carrottop104@aol.com    
Larry

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:14:51 -0500
To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" 
From: Anthony Underwood 
Subject: RE: KR> Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection
Message-ID: <01C2B899.85514C80.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com>

       Hi, guy's, Carrottop, you took the word's right out of my mouth. I 
wrote in the other day on intake length, and was going to suggest a 
injection sys., off of a Cont. or Lyc. motor.A man could probiley find the 
parts in one of the aircraft junck jards, The injectors would be to big, 
but i think it would make a good system. I know it's low tech and old, but 
almost anything is better than a carbarater. Anthony Underwood.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Carrottop104@aol.com [SMTP:Carrottop104@aol.com]
Sent:	Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:45 PM
To:	KRnet@mailinglists.org
Subject:	KR> Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection

Tim about your question about fuel injection on the corvair.  Two 
major
limitations of a carburetor are that the fuel-air mixture is not uniform
among the cylinders, and carburetors are subject to the formation or ice. 
The
fuel injection systems used on modern aircraft engines are not direct
injection systems, but are continuous-flow systems that deliver a low
pressure continuous flow of fuel to nozzles installed in the intake valve
chambers of the cylinders, just outside the valve. Fuel collects inside the 

nozzle when the intake valve is closed, and when it opens, this fuel, along 

with air from air bleed holes in the nozzle, is pulled into the cylinder.
all of the fuel vaporizes and is mixed with the air from the induction 
system
to provide uniform fuel-air mixture to each cylinder.  Vaporization of the
fuel takes place in the intake valve chamber where there is no possibility 
of
ice forming.  These systems are uncomplicated and efficient.  There are no
computers, sensors or wiring involved.  I have not installed this type of
injection system to a corvair engine, But if I were going to use fuel
injection I would try to locate a Precision Airmotive RSA fuel injection
system or a Teledine-continental fuel injection system because of their
simplicity and reliability after you see the cost you may want to find a 
good
carburetor.   Good luck  anything else contact me at carrottop104@aol.com 

Larry

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:45:03 -0800
To:  KRnet@mailinglists.org
From: Bill Higdon 
Subject: Re: KR> Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection
Message-ID: <3E1EF88F.7010105@attbi.com>

Call me crazy, but how abot the Bosch constant flow system used on the 
Rabbits, Jetas, Volvos etc. It's simple few parts etc. Biggest problem 
is a fuel pump. If any one wants info, I'd suggest starting with Miller 
Fuel Injection in Vancouver WA.Their web page is
http://www.sandrail.com/millerfi/
Bill Higdon
Anthony Underwood wrote:
>        Hi, guy's, Carrottop, you took the word's right out of my mouth. I 
> wrote in the other day on intake length, and was going to suggest a 
> injection sys., off of a Cont. or Lyc. motor.A man could probiley find the 
> parts in one of the aircraft junck jards, The injectors would be to big, 
> but i think it would make a good system. I know it's low tech and old, but 
> almost anything is better than a carbarater. Anthony Underwood.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Carrottop104@aol.com [SMTP:Carrottop104@aol.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:45 PM
> To:	KRnet@mailinglists.org
> Subject:	KR> Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection
> 
> 
Tim about your question about fuel injection on the corvair.  Two 
> major
> limitations of a carburetor are that the fuel-air mixture is not uniform
> among the cylinders, and carburetors are subject to the formation or ice. 
> The
> fuel injection systems used on modern aircraft engines are not direct
> injection systems, but are continuous-flow systems that deliver a low
> pressure continuous flow of fuel to nozzles installed in the intake valve
> chambers of the cylinders, just outside the valve. Fuel collects inside the 
> 
> nozzle when the intake valve is closed, and when it opens, this fuel, along 
> 
> with air from air bleed holes in the nozzle, is pulled into the cylinder.
> all of the fuel vaporizes and is mixed with the air from the induction 
> system
> to provide uniform fuel-air mixture to each cylinder.  Vaporization of the
> fuel takes place in the intake valve chamber where there is no possibility 
> of
> ice forming.  These systems are uncomplicated and efficient.  There are no
> computers, sensors or wiring involved.  I have not installed this type of
> injection system to a corvair engine, But if I were going to use fuel
> injection I would try to locate a Precision Airmotive RSA fuel injection
> system or a Teledine-continental fuel injection system because of their
> simplicity and reliability after you see the cost you may want to find a 
> good
> carburetor.   Good luck  anything else contact me at carrottop104@aol.com 
> 
> Larry

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:00:48 -0600
To: 
From: "Mark Langford" 
Subject: Re: KR> Re: CARB for Corvair or fuel injection
Message-ID: <001501c2b8c9$d3c4c2e0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com>

Bill Higdon wrote:

> Call me crazy, but how abot the Bosch constant flow system used on the
> Rabbits, Jetas, Volvos etc. It's simple few parts etc. Biggest problem
> is a fuel pump.

I've thought long and hard about the CIS system that you are talking about,
and created a web page to explain it (
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/CIS.html ).  You would probably want a 6
cylinder system, ala BMW or Mercedes for a Corvair.

I'm not going to do it though, because I don't think there's nearly enough
benefit from it to offset the weight and complexity issues, not to mention
the massive amount of space required for all the components.  A carburetor
is light, small, and it works!

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford

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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:40:06 -0700
To: 
From: "Louis Staalberg" 
Subject: Re: KR> Center stick
Message-ID: <000901c2b85a$2b1d40a0$0100a8c0@toshiba>

Edwin, I don't know if you plan to build or buy a dual  stick arrangement
but please note:
In the KR Newsletter, issue 186 of Nov. 1992 there is a very detailed
article, complete with detailed drawings on how to make one. 
I quote the last paragraph of this article:
Quote
If anybody would like a completed dual stick control system, they
can contact me at the address and phone number listed below.

David Carroll
1713 Live Oak Dr.
Kennesaw, GA 30144
404-429-0092

End quote

I have actually built this one and am very pleased with it.

p.s No, not flying yet but getting close!
Regards,

Louis Staalberg
N9FL@cybertrails.com
Payson, Arizona

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:52:32 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
To: 
From: "Dan Heath" 
Subject: Re: KR> Center stick
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 06:51:40 -0600
To: 
From: "Mark Langford" 
Subject: Re: KR> Center stick
Message-ID: <001401c2b8a7$057d1d50$5e0ca58c@tbe.com>

Dan Heath wrote:

>>We built a dual stick using those plans and I think we are going to like
it.
 Also, Rand sells one they are very proud of.<<

I believe Jeannette once told me that the dual stick setup that she sells is
made to those same plans (David Carroll's), but I could be wrong.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mailto:langford@hiwaay.net
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:01:11 -0500
To: N9FL@cybertrails.com
From: virgnvs@juno.com
Cc: KRnet@mailinglists.org
Subject: Re: KR> Center stick
Message-ID: <20030110.101752.-211781.0.virgnvs@juno.com>

        Dave, Did you once have an airplane flying ? What was  it's
name, Virg

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:40:06 -0700 "Louis Staalberg"
 writes:
> Edwin, I don't know if you plan to build or buy a dual  stick 
> arrangement
> but please note:
> In the KR Newsletter, issue 186 of Nov. 1992 there is a very 
> detailed
> article, complete with detailed drawings on how to make one. 
> I quote the last paragraph of this article:
> Quote
> If anybody would like a completed dual stick control system, they
> can contact me at the address and phone number listed below.
> 
> David Carroll
> 1713 Live Oak Dr.
> Kennesaw, GA 30144
> 404-429-0092
> 
> End quote
> 
> I have actually built this one and am very pleased with it.
> 
> p.s No, not flying yet but getting close!
> Regards,
> 
> Louis Staalberg
> N9FL@cybertrails.com
> Payson, Arizona
> 
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:38:43 -0600
To: 
From: "Brian J Bland" 
Subject: RE: KR> Center stick
Message-ID: 

Virg,

That post didn't come from David.  Louis was just quoting what was in the
newletter at one time.  I believe David called his airplane "Dumbo"

Brian J Bland
Claremore, OK

mailto:bruiser@dellepro.com

-----Original Message-----
From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:01 AM
To: N9FL@cybertrails.com
Cc: KRnet@mailinglists.org
Subject: Re: KR> Center stick

        Dave, Did you once have an airplane flying ? What was  it's
name, Virg

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:40:06 -0700 "Louis Staalberg"
 writes:
> Edwin, I don't know if you plan to build or buy a dual  stick
> arrangement
> but please note:
> In the KR Newsletter, issue 186 of Nov. 1992 there is a very
> detailed
> article, complete with detailed drawings on how to make one.
> I quote the last paragraph of this article:
> Quote
> If anybody would like a completed dual stick control system, they
> can contact me at the address and phone number listed below.
>
> David Carroll
> 1713 Live Oak Dr.
> Kennesaw, GA 30144
> 404-429-0092
>
> End quote
>
> I have actually built this one and am very pleased with it.
>
> p.s No, not flying yet but getting close!
> Regards,
>
> Louis Staalberg
> N9FL@cybertrails.com
> Payson, Arizona
>
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:23:34 -0600
To: 
From: "Larry" 
Subject: CRI CRI
Message-ID: <008d01c2b860$0aed72e0$e8febed8@l0c1i1>

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I saw the French guy at Oshkosh (many years ago) who designed the CRI =
CRI. They had two of them there doing an airshow together. One flew =
inverted above the lower one. It was pretty neat. I have thought from =
time to time that I would like to build and fly one of those little =
things. I didn't know that there was a dificulty finding engines. The =
ones that were on them at the time were a KFM I thought but I don't =
remember now but I can find out if you are interested.

Larry Howell
laheze@ev1.net

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:09:09 -0600
To: 
From: "Robert Stone" 
Subject: Re: KR> juggling KRs
Message-ID: <002101c2b8ba$3d0bb340$05d81a18@hot.rr.com>

Jim,
     I am also interested in a KR-1 but could not find yours on the web
site.  I assume you live in Waco, Texas.  If so I am only about 40 miles
away in Harker Heights (close to Killeen).  I would like to take a look at
your KR-1 project.  Please respond to:

Bob Stone
4214 Lakecliffe Drive
Harker Heights, TX
rstone4@hot.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Snyder" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: KR> juggling KRs

> Dave,
>     If you're looking for a partially finished KR 1 project to complete, I
> have a KR 1 project I'm putting up for sale. Go to www.waco-tx-eaa.org
> Chapter 59 website and scroll down to classifides and find the pictures,
> diagrams & data. Medical disqualification. Interested?        Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David McKelvey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 5:01 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> juggling KRs
>
>
> > I'm really not one to talk, I've got two in process and a set of KR1
plans
> > for my next, next project.  I guess we're a bunch of junkies.
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oscar Zuniga [mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:45 PM
> > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org
> > Subject: KR> juggling KRs
> >
> >
> > Dave writes-
> > >Terry, you can only fly one KR2 at a time, or has your wife
> > >told you that already?
> >
> > At one point, John Bouyea had 4 of 'em in various stages of completion.
I
> > see from his webpage at http://www.bouyea.net/cur_proj/Default.htm that
> he's
> > down to only three now...
> >
> > Oscar Zuniga
> > San Antonio, TX
> > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:49:40 EST
To: KRnet@mailinglists.org
From: Carrottop104@aol.com
Subject: fuel injection corvair.    xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com
Message-ID: 

Hi it's carrottop again.  I do think that fuel injection is the way to go if 
you can make it work.  I would look for a throttle body off of a smaller 4 
cylinder lyc. or cont.  It would have a venturi more suitable for a 164 CI 
engine like the corvair. Then find a flow divider off a 6 cylinder engine.  
Like I said I haven't tried this.  If you have the money it might be a good 
idea to find another pair of heads that you can experiment with and try them 
on your engine first. After you make it all work then you can drill your good 
heads for a permanent installation.  I will be trying this my self and I will 
keep you posted on the progress.  I do want to say that I don't think that a 
carburetor is a bad choice.  I was just pointing out in textbook terms the 
short comings of a carburetor so people installing one will have a better 
knowledge of it, and will build a more efficient induction system for their 
application.  Carburetors have been proven to be reliable for 100 years.  
Good luck Larry

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:52:46 -0800
To: ,
    
From: "Ron Eason" 
Subject: Re: KR> fuel injection corvair.    xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com
Message-Id: <200301100852.AA192807194@jrl-engineering.com>

Check with LN Engineering at lnengineering.com they can help with FI.

KRRon

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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:49:40 EST

>
Hi it's carrottop again.  I do think that fuel injection is the way to go if 
>you can make it work.  I would look for a throttle body off of a smaller 4 
>cylinder lyc. or cont.  It would have a venturi more suitable for a 164 CI 
>engine like the corvair. Then find a flow divider off a 6 cylinder engine.  
>Like I said I haven't tried this.  If you have the money it might be a good 
>idea to find another pair of heads that you can experiment with and try them 
>on your engine first. After you make it all work then you can drill your good 
>heads for a permanent installation.  I will be trying this my self and I will 
>keep you posted on the progress.  I do want to say that I don't think that a 
>carburetor is a bad choice.  I was just pointing out in textbook terms the 
>short comings of a carburetor so people installing one will have a better 
>knowledge of it, and will build a more efficient induction system for their 
>application.  Carburetors have been proven to be reliable for 100 years.  
>Good luck Larry
>
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