From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 25 Jan 2003 16:44:15 -0000 Issue 612 Date: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:44 AM krnet Digest 25 Jan 2003 16:44:15 -0000 Issue 612 Topics (messages 14619 through 14648): Re: Kitplanes radio 14619 by: Kevin 14621 by: Phil Maley 14624 by: Greg Martin 14629 by: Steven Eberhart 14633 by: Ed Janssen IT'S ALIVE.........IT'S ALIVE 14620 by: Dana Overall Re: Weight Restrictions 14622 by: Dennis Mingear 14625 by: Oscar Zuniga 14626 by: Bill Higdon 14628 by: Kevin 14634 by: Mark Jones For sale 14623 by: Edwin Blocher 14646 by: Stephen J Robinson 14648 by: Edwin Blocher Re: KR1 Cowling For sale 14627 by: Greg Martin buy 14630 by: Tom Mostmans 14631 by: Robert Stone KR size / weight 14632 by: larry flesner Re: KR friends 14635 by: Phillip Matheson 14636 by: Dan Heath 14637 by: Phillip Matheson Re: Low voltage indicator 14638 by: Ron Freiberger tail mods 14639 by: Justin 14640 by: Mark Langford 14643 by: Justin 14644 by: Mark Jones Missed out on this!!! 14641 by: Mark Jones 14642 by: Mark Jones KR nostalgia. 14645 by: harold woods Re: Seat Comfort Study 14647 by: chris gardiner Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:13:21 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kevin Subject: Re: KR> Kitplanes radio Message-ID: <6881174.1043414002160.JavaMail.nobody@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Kitplanes radio? What station is that on? Never heard of it. Kevin. -------Original Message------- From: Ed Janssen Sent: 01/23/03 10:30 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Kitplanes radio > > Thought I'd mention that Steve Bennett is slated to talk about his company and the VW engine on Kitplanes Radio in the 3rd segment of the program, January 30, 8:00 AM Pacific. Ed Janssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:33:39 +0800 To: From: "Phil Maley" Subject: RE: KR> Kitplanes radio Message-ID: http://www.wsradio.com/kitplanes/ -----Original Message----- From: Kevin [mailto:tinyauto@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:13 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Kitplanes radio Kitplanes radio? What station is that on? Never heard of it. Kevin. -------Original Message------- From: Ed Janssen Sent: 01/23/03 10:30 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Kitplanes radio > > Thought I'd mention that Steve Bennett is slated to talk about his company and the VW engine on Kitplanes Radio in the 3rd segment of the program, January 30, 8:00 AM Pacific. Ed Janssen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:24:25 -0800 To: From: Greg Martin Subject: Re: KR> Kitplanes radio Message-ID: <000901c2c43a$6c699040$6401a8c0@user> What is the radio station (frequency)? And is it on the web. Greg S. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Janssen" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: KR> Kitplanes radio > Thought I'd mention that Steve Bennett is slated to talk about his company > and the VW engine on Kitplanes Radio in the 3rd segment of the program, > January 30, 8:00 AM Pacific. > > Ed Janssen > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:05:49 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Steven Eberhart Subject: Re: KR> Kitplanes radio Message-ID: <3E318E8C.3050305@newtech.com> Go to http://www.wsradio.com/kitplanes/ I am listening to the Sonex interview as I write this. It uses Microsoft Media Player. Steve Eberhart Greg Martin wrote: > What is the radio station (frequency)? And is it on the web. > > Greg S. Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Janssen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:30 PM > Subject: KR> Kitplanes radio > > > >>Thought I'd mention that Steve Bennett is slated to talk about his company >>and the VW engine on Kitplanes Radio in the 3rd segment of the program, >>January 30, 8:00 AM Pacific. >> >>Ed Janssen >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >>See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:08:16 -0600 To: From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR> Kitplanes radio Message-ID: <001f01c2c3fd$7a80d180$0200a8c0@dad> Click on the following for info. http://www.kitplanes.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:13 AM Subject: Re: KR> Kitplanes radio > Kitplanes radio? What station is that on? Never heard of it. > > Kevin. > > > -------Original Message------- > From: Ed Janssen > Sent: 01/23/03 10:30 PM > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> Kitplanes radio > > > > > Thought I'd mention that Steve Bennett is slated to talk about his company > and the VW engine on Kitplanes Radio in the 3rd segment of the program, > January 30, 8:00 AM Pacific. > > Ed Janssen > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:26:28 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: IT'S ALIVE.........IT'S ALIVE Message-ID: IT'S ALIVE........as Marty Felman (sp) would say......."is that Frankenstien or is that Frankensteen":-) Since it's Friday, my wings got "juiced up" last night. The first is the landing light on the right wing, the second is the landing light on the left wing. The pics are taken in the dark for more dramatic effect!! http://rvflying.tripod.com/ll2.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/ll1.jpg Now for a more serious discussion. While doing casual bedtime reading, I came upon some nice info. Why have a manifold pressure gauge in an airplane with a fixed pitch prop. Bear with me now. A simple solution to percent of power produced. Take your MP and add it to your RPM in hundreds, thus 21" and 2600 RPM equates to 47 (21+26). This number will consistantly represent the percent of power, automatically compensating for altitude. Depending on your engine, you are going to have to do some adjustments but once you get these, they remain the same. 42=55% power 45=65% power 48=75% power A change of 3 represents a 10% change in power. Now how could this be useful in a KR you ask. On a descent to land you put the nose down and the speed and RPMs increase. The MP remains the same though until we retard the throttle. Although we don't see a decrease in the RPM due to the prop turning at a speed proportional to the airspeed the MP now drops which has a corresponding drop in power upon throttle retard. The atmospheric air pressure increases by one inch per thousand feet of altitude. Using a MP guage, even on fixed pitch prop, we can reduce the throttle to maintain a nearly constant power setting without fear of shock cooling the engine. Very, very easy way to control power setting, not RPM setting, which is the most vital equation in power management. Great way to save that engine from abuse. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:20:42 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Weight Restrictions Message-ID: <20030124152042.82153.qmail@web12603.mail.yahoo.com> --0-956332738-1043421642=:81306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Dean, Have you widened your cockpit and if so how much and where? Thanks ... Dennis Dean Selby wrote:John, I weigh in around 205 and me and my dad who weighs 190 fly together in my KR regularly and we've taken off with 20 gal of fuel with no problems. Climb out will drop to around 500-600 FPM but there's very little change in cruise. I find the KR easier to land when heavy as it doesn't tend to float as much. Hope this helps, Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: KR> Weight Restrictions > John, > I would say look for a different airplane. To be sure, find a KR2 at least sit in and possibly take a fight in. KRs are quite small. I am 160 lbs, and I consider myself to be the upper limit for pilot weight. > > Kevin. > > > > -------Original Message------- > From: John Legg > Sent: 01/23/03 02:42 PM > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> Weight Restrictions > > > > > Contemplating a KR2S but have hesitations due to my size. I'm 235lbs and my > occasional co-pilot would be 160lbs. Should I be considering a different > plane or is this possible? I don't want to constantly fly a "Handful". VW > conversion is our engine of choice but size isn't determined yet. Corvair > isn't ruled out. > > Thanks for the advice. > John > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files Dean --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-956332738-1043421642=:81306-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:31:36 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: weight restrictions Message-ID: John writes- >Contemplating a KR2S but have hesitations due to my size. I'm 235lbs >and my occasional co-pilot would be 160lbs. Should I be considering a >different plane or is this possible? I don't want to constantly fly a >"Handful". VW conversion is our engine of choice but size isn't >determined yet. Corvair isn't ruled out. Take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/01092324.jpg and think for a while. This photo says a lot. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:43:25 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Bill Higdon Subject: Re: KR> weight restrictions Message-ID: <3E31894D.40707@attbi.com> Where's the Olive oil. (for the sardines) Bill Higdon Oscar Zuniga wrote: > John writes- > >> Contemplating a KR2S but have hesitations due to my size. I'm 235lbs >> and my occasional co-pilot would be 160lbs. Should I be considering a >> different plane or is this possible? I don't want to constantly fly a >> "Handful". VW conversion is our engine of choice but size isn't >> determined yet. Corvair isn't ruled out. > > > Take a look at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/01092324.jpg and think > for a while. This photo says a lot. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:40:09 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kevin Subject: Re: KR> weight restrictions Message-ID: <2554796.1043433609533.JavaMail.nobody@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> That is the exact photo I was thinking of when I read the original posting. What is the width of that paticular airplane? Is it widened, or stock? Kevin. -------Original Message------- From: Oscar Zuniga Sent: 01/24/03 01:31 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> weight restrictions > > John writes- >Contemplating a KR2S but have hesitations due to my size. I'm 235lbs >and my occasional co-pilot would be 160lbs. Should I be considering a >different plane or is this possible? I don't want to constantly fly a >"Handful". VW conversion is our engine of choice but size isn't >determined yet. Corvair isn't ruled out. Take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/01092324.jpg and think for a while. This photo says a lot. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:36:15 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> weight restrictions Message-ID: <004601c2c401$63255e80$55591f41@wi.rr.com> I have seen the plane and I do not think it is widened. John, you and I are about the same size and I have widened my fuselage and moved the firewall forward a little. I have plenty of room. Just as comfortable as a Cessna 150. Actually, more comfortable!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: Re: KR> weight restrictions > That is the exact photo I was thinking of when I read the original posting. What is the width of that paticular airplane? Is it widened, or stock? > > Kevin. > > > -------Original Message------- > From: Oscar Zuniga > Sent: 01/24/03 01:31 PM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> weight restrictions > > > > > John writes- > > >Contemplating a KR2S but have hesitations due to my size. I'm 235lbs > >and my occasional co-pilot would be 160lbs. Should I be considering a > >different plane or is this possible? I don't want to constantly fly a > >"Handful". VW conversion is our engine of choice but size isn't > >determined yet. Corvair isn't ruled out. > > Take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/01092324.jpg > > and think for a while. This photo says a lot. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:22:09 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: For sale Message-ID: <001301c2c3cd$20e6bde0$0201a8c0@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2C39A.D58A8480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the following to sell: RR Center Stick Assembly - $125.00 (RR price- $175.00) Teakwood Custom Grip, $75.00 (AS&S #11-02920, page 371).AS&S price = $99.95. Complete with PTT and 4 way top hat switch. Thanks, ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C2C39A.D58A8480-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:32:58 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Stephen J Robinson Subject: Re: KR> For sale Message-ID: <20030125.093747.-164395.0.sjrobinson2@juno.com> Ed, Is that Custom Grip Neutral, right or left-handed? Steve Robinson On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:22:09 -0600 "Edwin Blocher" writes: > I have the following to sell: > RR Center Stick Assembly - $125.00 (RR price- $175.00) > Teakwood Custom Grip, $75.00 (AS&S #11-02920, page 371).AS&S price > $99.95. Complete with PTT and 4 way top hat switch. > Thanks, ED > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > eblocher@earthlink.net > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:38:29 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> For sale Message-ID: <000e01c2c490$31ac37e0$0201a8c0@computer> Steve, It is a Right hand grip. Ed Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen J Robinson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: Re: KR> For sale > Ed, > > Is that Custom Grip Neutral, right or left-handed? > > Steve Robinson > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:22:09 -0600 "Edwin Blocher" > writes: > > I have the following to sell: > > RR Center Stick Assembly - $125.00 (RR price- $175.00) > > Teakwood Custom Grip, $75.00 (AS&S #11-02920, page 371).AS&S price > > $99.95. Complete with PTT and 4 way top hat switch. > > Thanks, ED > > Ed Blocher > > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > > eblocher@earthlink.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:40:09 -0800 To: From: Greg Martin Subject: Re: KR1 Cowling For sale Message-ID: <001501c2c43c$9ed2eb60$6401a8c0@user> I have a KR1 cowling for sale for an 1835VW. I'm asking $450.00 for it. Contact me off line Greg S. Martin idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:28:56 +0100 To: From: "Tom Mostmans" Subject: buy Message-ID: <008c01c2c3e7$385a5120$dc1576d5@pandora.be> ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C2C3EF.99D3F480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does somebody sell a KR2? Greetings, Tom Mostmans Belgium ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01C2C3EF.99D3F480-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:58:48 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> buy Message-ID: <002001c2c3eb$68825ce0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Tom, The KR series of aircraft are experimental (Homebuilt) The kits are available from Rand Robinson Engineering 7071 Warner Ave, #F, PMB 724 Huntington Beach, Calif, 92647-5492. There are KR-1's KR-2's and KR-2S's for sale from time to time and the best way to find one is Barnstormers at this Web site http://www.barnstormers2000.com/search_frame.htm or the KR Net. I know you have the URL for that one. You can also find a KR Series aircraft that someone has started and wants to sell it unfinished and in some cases this is the best way to go because you save a lot of work and money depending on the quality of workmanship. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx, USA rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Mostmans" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: KR> buy Does somebody sell a KR2? Greetings, Tom Mostmans Belgium ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:42:08 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: KR size / weight Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030124164208.007f93a0@pop.midwest.net> >John writes- >>Contemplating a KR2S but have hesitations due to my size. I'm 235lbs >>and my occasional co-pilot would be 160lbs. Should I be considering a >>different plane or is this possible? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/01092324.jpg >and think for a while. This photo says a lot. >Oscar Zuniga ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That KR is basicly stock. The KR can be modified somewhat for us larger folks, widened, stretched, taller canopy, etc. There are several examples if you look at some of the builders sites that are "hotlinked" from Mark Langford's site, Mark Jones, and others. You have to keep in mind that if you are modifing for larger pilots/passangers you will be heavier and to get acceptable performance you will "NEED" the larger engine like the 0-200 , Corvair, etc. The larger engine will further increase your weight and all that extra weight will lower the G rating of the structure. My plans say it (stock KR2, not extended wings) is rated at 7 G's at 800 pounds. That's 5600 pounds. I'm planning on flying mine at 1250 so I'll only have a 4.5 G rating. What's safe? You decide, it's your a** in the seat! Has it been done? Yes, there are few things that haven't already been tried on KR's. If you plan to go that route, I'd suggest you spend some time educating yourself on the KR on the web, attending Gatherings, and any other means you have available. Larry Flesner P.S. Look at the pictures of my project (off Mark Langford's site) and check out my 4 inch head room and I was wearing a cap! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:12:53 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR friends Message-ID: <000101c2c402$856a2560$0100a8c0@barry> From us in Australia, Yes are in 100 year drought, ( 5 to 5 years ) It has been 40C + ( 104 F + ) Lost over 300 400 homes. I'm lucky to in any area that is not in a State of Emergency. But boy, is it hot in my tin workshop. Thank you all for thinking of those in need. I 'm rebuilding my elevator, and fitting the REB hinges. Half Dr Deans's and halh my idea. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:02:40 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR friends Message-Id: <3E320C60.000001.01212@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_GK49QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phil,=0D =0D Will you have pictures of your hinges?=0D =0D 104 outside and a tin ship... I know what that is like.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Friday, January 24, 2003 03:44:21 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> KR friends=0D =0D =46rom us in Australia,=0D Yes are in 100 year drought, ( 5 to 5 years )=0D It has been 40C + ( 104 F + )=0D Lost over 300 400 homes. I'm lucky to in any area that is not in a State = of=0D Emergency.=0D But boy, is it hot in my tin workshop.=0D =0D Thank you all for thinking of those in need.=0D =0D I 'm rebuilding my elevator, and fitting the REB hinges. Half Dr Deans's = and=0D halh my idea.=0D =0D Phil Matheson=0D matheson@dodo.com.au=0D 61 3 58833588=0D NSW=0D Australia.=0D See our VW engines at;=0D www.vw-engines.com=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_GK49QL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:08:20 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR friends Message-ID: <00b501c2c416$a2c2df80$0100a8c0@barry> Daniel, I put some in to get done yesterday. Hope they turn out. I'll let you know. and send you something. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR friends Phil, Will you have pictures of your hinges? 104 outside and a tin ship... I know what that is like. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, January 24, 2003 03:44:21 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> KR friends From us in Australia, Yes are in 100 year drought, ( 5 to 5 years ) It has been 40C + ( 104 F + ) Lost over 300 400 homes. I'm lucky to in any area that is not in a State of Emergency. But boy, is it hot in my tin workshop. Thank you all for thinking of those in need. I 'm rebuilding my elevator, and fitting the REB hinges. Half Dr Deans's and halh my idea. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ----- Original Message ----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:39:48 -0500 To: , From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> Low voltage indicator Message-ID: Alternators require a small initial field current to start to generate current. It is common practice to do this with current through a light bulb, and is often called an IDIOT LIGHT. If the light is on, it means the alternator is not generating enough voltage to supply field (excitation) Current. If the light is not lit, it means the alternator is supplying a voltage, perhaps only equal to the battery voltage. Thus it may be essentially "BROKE". This is often the case when the brushes are badly worn. However, if it is really "BROKE" then the light will likely light. Ain't that clear??? Ron Freiberger mailto:rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Serge Vidal [mailto:svidal@icon.co.za] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:15 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: RE: KR> Low voltage indicator Jim, If you don't come right, I will give you a copy of my wiring diagram. ZS-WEC has an instrument panel mounted light that is used to "trigger" the alternator before start (I think this is called alternator induction), and also serves as a low voltage indicator. Value about $2, and two wires to connect at the right place. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: JIM VANCE [mailto:VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM] Sent: 22 January 2003 12:41 To: kr net Subject: KR> Low voltage indicator Since I am using points ignition and an electric fuel pump, it would be safer if I had a means of indicating that my alternator isn't alting before the battery quits. The January 1997 Newsletter had a How-to-build acticle in its index on a low voltage warning system. The article apparently didn't make it through publication. I have scanned my cd-rom disc and haven't found any references to low voltage indicators. I would much prefer building a unit (I'll learn something new) to buying it from Spruce (For $86). Does anyone have a circuit diagram they can share? Thanks, Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:35:32 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: tail mods Message-ID: <000801c2c41a$6ec82740$ed7ba8c0@socal.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C3E8.23F234E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark,=20 You extended your HS 6" on each side. Has anyone else extended their = tail ont he S model and gotten away with less? How did you go about modyfiing your spar?=20 Is anyone flying with the new airfoil on the tail surfaces? Justin, KR2S http://n116jw.topcities.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C3E8.23F234E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:43:12 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> tail mods Message-ID: <001d01c2c42c$44f83ec0$2402a8c0@800Athlon> Justin wrote: > You extended your HS 6" on each side. Has anyone else extended their tail ont he S model and >gotten away with less? I guess you could say that even those with bone-stock KR2's are "getting away with it". > How did you go about modyfiing your spar? It's just taller to match the airfoil. > Is anyone flying with the new airfoil on the tail surfaces? Jim Hill's been flying it for 2 or 3 years and hasn't complained about it. There are probably others somewhere. There's nothing magic about that airfoil, other than the fact that it really is an airfoil, and not just something somebody whipped up with a circle template and a french curve... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:26:48 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> tail mods Message-ID: <001101c2c432$5dc20340$ed7ba8c0@socal.rr.com> Back to the spar issue again. When you tapered it, did you just make it a longer taper down to 5/8" or did you leave it sparless those extra 6" on each side? Justin, KR2S http://n116jw.topcities.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:43 PM Subject: Re: KR> tail mods > Justin wrote: > > > You extended your HS 6" on each side. Has anyone else extended their tail > ont he S model and >gotten away with less? > > I guess you could say that even those with bone-stock KR2's are "getting > away with it". > > > How did you go about modyfiing your spar? > > It's just taller to match the airfoil. > > > Is anyone flying with the new airfoil on the tail surfaces? > > Jim Hill's been flying it for 2 or 3 years and hasn't complained about it. > There are probably others somewhere. There's nothing magic about that > airfoil, other than the fact that it really is an airfoil, and not just > something somebody whipped up with a circle template and a french curve... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 07:53:56 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> tail mods Message-ID: <000e01c2c479$34557d60$83531f41@wi.rr.com> Justin, You know Langford...sleeps all the time...probably still in bed.....but yes taper the spar all the way to the ends of the horizontal stabilizer. Sorry Mark...just had to help you out a little there since you probably had a long night working on the KR. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: Re: KR> tail mods > Back to the spar issue again. When you tapered it, did you just make it a > longer taper down to 5/8" or did you leave it sparless those extra 6" on > each side? > > Justin, KR2S > http://n116jw.topcities.com/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Langford" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:43 PM > Subject: Re: KR> tail mods > > > > Justin wrote: > > > > > You extended your HS 6" on each side. Has anyone else extended their > tail > > ont he S model and >gotten away with less? > > > > I guess you could say that even those with bone-stock KR2's are "getting > > away with it". > > > > > How did you go about modyfiing your spar? > > > > It's just taller to match the airfoil. > > > > > Is anyone flying with the new airfoil on the tail surfaces? > > > > Jim Hill's been flying it for 2 or 3 years and hasn't complained about it. > > There are probably others somewhere. There's nothing magic about that > > airfoil, other than the fact that it really is an airfoil, and not just > > something somebody whipped up with a circle template and a french curve... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:01:56 -0600 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Missed out on this!!! Message-ID: <00c201c2c42e$e29747a0$55591f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01C2C3FC.97C2DBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take a look at this piece of KR nostalgia from 1974 we all missed out = on.=20 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&category=3D14051&item=3D2154= 230454&rd=3D1 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01C2C3FC.97C2DBE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:05:12 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Missed out on this!!! Message-ID: <00d801c2c42f$57aa97e0$55591f41@wi.rr.com> Here is the correct link....sorry. I sure wish I had this. Take a look at this piece of KR nostalgia from 1974 we all missed out on. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14051&item=2154230454 &rd=1 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:34:17 -0500 To: From: "harold woods" Subject: KR nostalgia. Message-ID: <004601c2c47e$db613720$03000004@baol.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2C454.EE853740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That KR builders manual is what I used to build my 90% complete KR. My = copy is so well used that the edges of the orange cover are worn = away.The project started around 1975, there were many interuptions but = in the last few years it has progressed. The purchase of a computer a = couple of years ago and finding the KRnet really opened my eyes.Thank = you all where ever you are. Harold Woods Orillia,ON. Canada. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/03 ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2C454.EE853740-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:08:55 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: chris gardiner Subject: Re: KR> Seat Comfort Study Message-ID: <3E32B697.4020002@attcanada.ca> Okay, I feel qualified to give an opinion on this one. I have the standard sling seat in my KR2S that I flew for 16 hours to the KR Gathering in Red Oak last year. All the way from Toronto , Canada to RDK in the sling seat with a 2" slab of standard foam cushion. The sling seat is actually pretty good but it puts a pressure point right on your tail bone area and I ended up with an actual friction burn. My solution is to replace the 2" standard foam with some of the energy absorbing type ( CONFOR) to help distribute my weight ( 195 -200 lbs) better, for the long flight again next year to RDK. This stuff is expensive no matter where you buy it but I believe well worth it .Your butt will thank you. Contact Hi-Tech foams for information ( seatfoam@inetnebr.com)or www.seatfoam.com Regards Chris Gardiner C-GKRZ Scott Cable wrote: >Netters, >I have some questions in regard to the KR Seat in flying KR's. > >I have a hunch from studying the plans, that the plans built "sling" seat looks very unsupportive, and uncomfortable, especially in the lower thigh area. Do your legs and feet fall asleep while in flight? > >When flying your KR for long flights, what makes your seat uncomfortable? >Lack of support? Pressure points? No lumbar support? Lack of adjustment? Are you sitting on some form of foam pad to augment the sling? If so what? > > > > >Scott Cable >KR-2S # 735 >Livonia, MI >s2cable1@yahoo.com > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************