From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 7 Mar 2003 17:42:45 -0000 Issue 651 Date: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:43 AM krnet Digest 7 Mar 2003 17:42:45 -0000 Issue 651 Topics (messages 15651 through 15680): Re: Sun & Fun....not RV. 15651 by: Mark Jones 15655 by: Edwin Blocher 15656 by: Mark Jones 15658 by: Dana Overall 15661 by: virgnvs.juno.com KR Plaque at EAA 15652 by: Mark Jones 15654 by: Mark Jones 15657 by: Ron Eason 15660 by: Mark Jones Re: Center stick 15653 by: Edwin Blocher Belly board proformance data 15659 by: Darren Pond 15676 by: Justin Re: 4 place 15662 by: Kenny Luter Plans. 15663 by: Volucer 15664 by: Frank Ross 15665 by: Volucer 15666 by: EAmberger.aol.com 15667 by: EAmberger.aol.com 15669 by: Volucer 15671 by: Scott Stanton 15673 by: Volucer 15674 by: Justin 15675 by: Dan Heath 15677 by: Volucer 15680 by: Bill Higdon Re: Which plane? 15668 by: Paul Gangemi 15672 by: Justin KR. 15670 by: Volucer 15679 by: Jim Morehead KR2 PARTS FOR SALE 15678 by: Waldokr2.aol.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:02:48 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. Message-ID: <00a101c2e456$08ec00c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Dana, Sounds like a plan....... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. > How about our regular get together at Sun & Fun. I'm thinking let's get > together somewhere before the airshow on Sat. My thoughts would be to bring > along your favorite soda (therefor I'm bringing beer) and some brats. After > the airshow we go to someone's campsite (Mine, Mark Langford and Doug > Steen's, see we may fly down in Doug's non KR airplane) and pop a soda and > eat some brats. Only problem with this is we will allow talk other than KR. > > What do you think gang. > > Sorry if I wasted time. If I did, smack me with a aviation grade > AN-Wetnoddle3-3.5. > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:43:01 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. Message-ID: <007d01c2e45b$a7cbbfa0$0201a8c0@computer> I have been thinking about going to Sun & Fun this year. Never been and would be lost. If I can find a place to lay my head at night (after a few "sodas") I think I will try to get there Friday and leave Monday. I don't have the old "official KR beer truck" anymore but I do have a Jeep Cherokee that I can roll out a sleeping bag in or I can try to locate a motel room. Also, is WW"s Corvair Forum on Sat.? And Dana, I really would like to talk RV before I go much further on my KR. I may be a traitor like you before long (-: Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. > How about our regular get together at Sun & Fun. I'm thinking let's get > together somewhere before the airshow on Sat. My thoughts would be to bring > along your favorite soda (therefor I'm bringing beer) and some brats. After > the airshow we go to someone's campsite (Mine, Mark Langford and Doug > Steen's, see we may fly down in Doug's non KR airplane) and pop a soda and > eat some brats. Only problem with this is we will allow talk other than KR. > > What do you think gang. > > Sorry if I wasted time. If I did, smack me with a aviation grade > AN-Wetnoddle3-3.5. > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:50:23 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. Message-ID: <00f901c2e45c$ae9dda60$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> WW Corvair forum Saturday 10am. That is the last info I have and I will be there. See ya. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin Blocher" To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. > I have been thinking about going to Sun & Fun this year. Never been and > would be lost. If I can find a place to lay my head at night (after a few > "sodas") I think I will try to get there Friday and leave Monday. I don't > have the old "official KR beer truck" anymore but I do have a Jeep Cherokee > that I can roll out a sleeping bag in or I can try to locate a motel room. > Also, is WW"s Corvair Forum on Sat.? > And Dana, I really would like to talk RV before I go much further on my KR. > I may be a traitor like you before long (-: > > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > eblocher@earthlink.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Overall" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:02 PM > Subject: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. > > > > How about our regular get together at Sun & Fun. I'm thinking let's get > > together somewhere before the airshow on Sat. My thoughts would be to > bring > > along your favorite soda (therefor I'm bringing beer) and some brats. > After > > the airshow we go to someone's campsite (Mine, Mark Langford and Doug > > Steen's, see we may fly down in Doug's non KR airplane) and pop a soda and > > eat some brats. Only problem with this is we will allow talk other than > KR. > > > > What do you think gang. > > > > Sorry if I wasted time. If I did, smack me with a aviation grade > > AN-Wetnoddle3-3.5. > > > > > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > > Richmond, KY > > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 06:17:35 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. Message-ID: Since it is tax season, I can't be gone long from the practice so I'm planning on flying commercial down on Friday and staying until Sun or Mon. Here's how I do it, if I want to camp and don't fly down. I'll just go register my airplane as if I flew in. Costs a couple bucks but allows me to camp with the airplanes instead of over in regular camping. I'll pitch my tent over by the trees within easy walking distance from anywhere. Showers and bathroom within a stones throw. Anyone up for a joint camp?? In my mind, it's the only way to do SNF and OSK. If we can get enough people, we'll take it off the list and make a CC email to organize it. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:21:50 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. Message-ID: <20030307.094328.-442007.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Steve has a shindig, Brats beer and such, Virg On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:02:48 -0600 "Mark Jones" writes: > Dana, > Sounds like a plan....... > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Overall" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:02 PM > Subject: KR> Sun & Fun....not RV. > > > > How about our regular get together at Sun & Fun. I'm thinking > let's get > > together somewhere before the airshow on Sat. My thoughts would > be to > bring > > along your favorite soda (therefor I'm bringing beer) and some > brats. > After > > the airshow we go to someone's campsite (Mine, Mark Langford and > Doug > > Steen's, see we may fly down in Doug's non KR airplane) and pop a > soda and > > eat some brats. Only problem with this is we will allow talk > other than > KR. > > > > What do you think gang. > > > > Sorry if I wasted time. If I did, smack me with a aviation grade > > AN-Wetnoddle3-3.5. > > > > > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > > Richmond, KY > > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL WWW.LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:12:08 -0600 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR Plaque at EAA Message-ID: <00b201c2e457$57030aa0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C2E425.0C2E9EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, I have had a couple of very generous pledges towards my quest with = getting the KR better recognized at EAA. As I stated in my last post, = Adam Smith stated the EAA would provide the plaque with no donation = required as the EAA would like to give the KR the recognition it = deserves. If this is the case, I feel we should take up a collection and = make a donation to the EAA in the memory of Ken Rand and his = achievements in the world of experimental aviation. Also I propose, with = the permission of Jeanette Rand, we have Ken's name engraved on the EAA = Memorial Wall.=20 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C2E425.0C2E9EE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:40:08 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA Message-ID: <00d201c2e45b$400c4ce0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> I just received a pledge from a very dedicated KR head to match up to $500 in pledges I receive from others. Talk about generosity....any others out there? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: KR> KR Plaque at EAA Hello All, I have had a couple of very generous pledges towards my quest with getting the KR better recognized at EAA. As I stated in my last post, Adam Smith stated the EAA would provide the plaque with no donation required as the EAA would like to give the KR the recognition it deserves. If this is the case, I feel we should take up a collection and make a donation to the EAA in the memory of Ken Rand and his achievements in the world of experimental aviation. Also I propose, with the permission of Jeanette Rand, we have Ken's name engraved on the EAA Memorial Wall. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:37:30 -0600 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA Message-ID: <008f01c2e463$43560000$6501a8c0@Administration> I want to donate to this cause. Please tell me when and where. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: KR> KR Plaque at EAA Hello All, I have had a couple of very generous pledges towards my quest with getting the KR better recognized at EAA. As I stated in my last post, Adam Smith stated the EAA would provide the plaque with no donation required as the EAA would like to give the KR the recognition it deserves. If this is the case, I feel we should take up a collection and make a donation to the EAA in the memory of Ken Rand and his achievements in the world of experimental aviation. Also I propose, with the permission of Jeanette Rand, we have Ken's name engraved on the EAA Memorial Wall. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:34:26 -0600 To: , "Ron Eason" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA Message-ID: <000701c2e4a5$e4210060$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Thanks Ron Will let you know. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Eason" To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA > I want to donate to this cause. Please tell me when and where. > > KRRon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR-Net" > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:12 PM > Subject: KR> KR Plaque at EAA > > > Hello All, > I have had a couple of very generous pledges towards my quest with getting > the KR better recognized at EAA. As I stated in my last post, Adam Smith > stated the EAA would provide the plaque with no donation required as the EAA > would like to give the KR the recognition it deserves. If this is the case, > I feel we should take up a collection and make a donation to the EAA in the > memory of Ken Rand and his achievements in the world of experimental > aviation. Also I propose, with the permission of Jeanette Rand, we have > Ken's name engraved on the EAA Memorial Wall. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:25:42 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Center stick Message-ID: <007501c2e459$3c3936c0$0201a8c0@computer> I'm interested. Can you send me a picture of it? ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: KR> Center stick > Ed: > I have a dual stick install right now. It is a professionally > manufactored unit that cost over $200 new. Are you interested in a trade? > > RV > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:46:23 -0500 To: From: "Darren Pond" Subject: Belly board proformance data Message-ID: <000a01c2e49f$2da02c40$0100a8c0@cambr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2E475.44CA2440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI All Ron Riley from Grand Bend Ont. Built a standard KR2 then added a belly board hinged at the aft spar. Supposedly he it was full width and 8-10" depth with a series of holes. He found that it disturbed air flow going over the tail and did not provide the postive slowing and forward pitching results that he wanted. He removed it after a short time. As I now own his KR2 I'm consider putting the belly board back on, maybe the board should not be full width? I think one of the Glasairs uses a double spade shape spoiler only 6-8" wide each. Can any one suggest a better shape that will not disturb air flow over the tail? RV ..... I got a ride in an RV6 last summer can't wait to get another. After years of Cessna flying this RV was like riding in fine sports car. Rock solid controls with a 1200ft climb out. no complaint here just envey.... A while ago a fellow emailed me about gettting some Tail time here in Southern Ont. I lost his email address so please drop me aline again. Darren P C-GGGW KR2 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2E475.44CA2440-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:04:18 -0600 To: , From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Belly board proformance data Message-ID: <002e01c2e4ba$d3c6db30$dcda1818@computer> "A 6" x 36" .060" aluminum belly board speed brake is hinged from the aft spar and will deflect up to 40 degrees. This not only slows the plane down quickly for landing, but also pitches the nose down significantly for a better view of the runway." http://srd.yahoo.com/S=2766679:WS1/R=1/K=belly+board+KR2/TID=SN20_11:testg/T T=1047056669/H=0/T=1047056669/F=fb1be7638976f3456610b85cf9856f9f/*http://www .bouyea.net/kronline/1KRO1096.doc Off that website about a KR2S. Hope that helps Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Pond" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:46 AM Subject: KR> Belly board proformance data > HI All > > Ron Riley from Grand Bend Ont. Built a standard KR2 then added a belly board > hinged at the aft spar. > Supposedly he it was full width and 8-10" depth with a series of holes. > > He found that it disturbed air flow going over the tail and did not provide > the postive slowing and forward pitching results that he wanted. > He removed it after a short time. > As I now own his KR2 I'm consider putting the belly board back on, maybe the > board should not be full width? > I think one of the Glasairs uses a double spade shape spoiler only 6-8" wide > each. > > Can any one suggest a better shape that will not disturb air flow over the > tail? > > > RV ..... I got a ride in an RV6 last summer can't wait to get another. After > years of Cessna flying this RV was like riding in fine sports car. Rock > solid controls with a 1200ft climb out. no complaint here just envey.... > > > A while ago a fellow emailed me about gettting some Tail time here in > Southern Ont. I lost his email address so please drop me aline again. > > > Darren P > C-GGGW KR2 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:51:59 -0500 To: From: "Kenny Luter" Subject: Re: KR> 4 place Message-ID: <002601c2e4b9$1c00eaa0$ba40bc3f@com> I also am intriqued by the vision and corvair even for just a two place . I hope to start building in the next two years and will need to make a decision soon . I have learned quite a bit from this group and appreciate it all . aceracing@coastalnet.com Kenny RZZ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: KR> 4 place > Norm, > > I've been following the development/production, etc., of the Vision for quite > some time. The foldaplane concept is pretty interesting as it should provide > for a much stronger aircraft than the average homebuilder would be able to > produce using conventional composite building techniques. Trouble is I've > never seen one of these aircraft in person or met anyone who has. One of > these days I'll find an opportunity to visit the company and check it out. > I'm not from Missouri but seeing is believing and comforting in my book. > > Regards, > Walt > PS: Wish they'd keep that damned scrolling crap off of their web site. Those > of us on dialup run out of bandwidth with such minutia. > > In a message dated 3/6/2003 11:36:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, > norman.seel@verizon.net writes: > > > > For those wanting to investigate a four place plane, you might want to look > > into the Vision. It's composite construction, two place, but one person is > > building it as a four place. Also you will see that WW is working up a > > Corvair engine for the two place. > > > > I'm not trying to be a heretic to KR people; just something interesting. > > > > http://www.visionaircraft.com/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:59:17 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Plans. Message-ID: <009601c2e4ba$20ab9180$ee02a8c0@piv226> ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C2E4C2.81ECE6D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0093_01C2E4C2.81ECE6D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0093_01C2E4C2.81ECE6D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GhiaccioHi Guys, I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer from them. Where should I get a set of plans? thanks, Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy ------=_NextPart_001_0093_01C2E4C2.81ECE6D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ghiaccio
Hi Guys,
I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer from = them.
Where should I get a set of plans?
thanks,
Dr. Tsabari Shahar
0039.0365.761000
Italy

 

------=_NextPart_001_0093_01C2E4C2.81ECE6D0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C2E4C2.81ECE6D0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 07:19:12 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <20030307151912.3336.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Tsabari, It is best to send a letter with a check or money order to RR requesting a set of plans. This is not a big company so be patient. RR is basically a one-person operation, but it is honest and reliable, if sometimes slow. You will get your materials and information, but maybe not as soon as you would like. On another note, I may be mistaken, but I believe that both Glasair and Lancair were designed by men who first built KRs. The Vision is a design that looks like a natural evolution of the KR design made of fiberglass and the BX Cherry is almost a larger version of the KR with better plans. Those might also be planes you'd like to look at. Best of luck Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX, USA --- Volucer wrote: > GhiaccioHi Guys, > I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer > from them. > Where should I get a set of plans? > thanks, > Dr. Tsabari Shahar > 0039.0365.761000 > Italy > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:29:22 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <00b901c2e4be$54aedba0$ee02a8c0@piv226> thank you Frank. I prefer the KR small and fast. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > Tsabari, > It is best to send a letter with a check or money > order to RR requesting a set of plans. > This is not a big company so be patient. RR is > basically a one-person operation, but it is honest and > reliable, if sometimes slow. You will get your > materials and information, but maybe not as soon as > you would like. > On another note, I may be mistaken, but I believe that > both Glasair and Lancair were designed by men who > first built KRs. > The Vision is a design that looks like a natural > evolution of the KR design made of fiberglass and the > BX Cherry is almost a larger version of the KR with > better plans. Those might also be planes you'd like to > look at. > Best of luck > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX, USA > > --- Volucer wrote: > > GhiaccioHi Guys, > > I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer > > from them. > > Where should I get a set of plans? > > thanks, > > Dr. Tsabari Shahar > > 0039.0365.761000 > > Italy > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 10:49:50 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: EAmberger@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <42127691.31D62BA7.0208A5EA@aol.com> I am considering building a KR2S. How detailed are the drawings? Thanks Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 10:49:47 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: EAmberger@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <73AF1CED.23461C0A.0208A5EA@aol.com> I am considering building a KR2S. How detailed are the drawings? Thanks Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:00:58 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <00d701c2e4c2$bee3be60$ee02a8c0@piv226> I don't know men. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > I am considering building a KR2S. How detailed are the drawings? > > Thanks > Eric > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:41:55 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Scott Stanton Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <20030307164155.40001.qmail@web11901.mail.yahoo.com> Finally, A subject I am qualified to answer. I have read through the plans probably a half dozen times (still haven't ordered or cut wood though). I can tell you that the plans are terribly lacking. There are some places where it is really helpful to have a drafting ruler to measure the 1/4" scale with. But the good news is that the KR-Net is here to help where the plans fail. There are a number of guys here who have built KRs with the same plans you can get. So even though the plans aren't up to par, you can find out the information you need from here. Scott Still dreaming of KR flying in Raleigh NC. --- EAmberger@aol.com wrote: > I am considering building a KR2S. How detailed are > the drawings? > > Thanks > Eric > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ===== -- Scott Stanton Raleigh, NC __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:48:18 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <010201c2e4c9$5b42d060$ee02a8c0@piv226> So why nobody in the net offer better ones? I am sure that some of us are able to do that, the best will be DXF files I think. Shahar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stanton" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > Finally, A subject I am qualified to answer. I have > read through the plans probably a half dozen times > (still haven't ordered or cut wood though). I can > tell you that the plans are terribly lacking. There > are some places where it is really helpful to have a > drafting ruler to measure the 1/4" scale with. But > the good news is that the KR-Net is here to help where > the plans fail. There are a number of guys here who > have built KRs with the same plans you can get. So > even though the plans aren't up to par, you can find > out the information you need from here. > > Scott > Still dreaming of KR flying in Raleigh NC. > > > --- EAmberger@aol.com wrote: > > I am considering building a KR2S. How detailed are > > the drawings? > > > > Thanks > > Eric > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > > NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > ===== > -- > Scott Stanton > Raleigh, NC > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:52:45 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <001d01c2e4b9$36d50cd0$dcda1818@computer> I cant think of his name off hand but Mr.lancair was once a member of my EAA chapter 96 and knew a few people in the chapter very well. He did start out with a KR. He drew up the plans to his first airplane and was told "make those tail feathers bigger!" Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > Tsabari, > It is best to send a letter with a check or money > order to RR requesting a set of plans. > This is not a big company so be patient. RR is > basically a one-person operation, but it is honest and > reliable, if sometimes slow. You will get your > materials and information, but maybe not as soon as > you would like. > On another note, I may be mistaken, but I believe that > both Glasair and Lancair were designed by men who > first built KRs. > The Vision is a design that looks like a natural > evolution of the KR design made of fiberglass and the > BX Cherry is almost a larger version of the KR with > better plans. Those might also be planes you'd like to > look at. > Best of luck > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX, USA > > --- Volucer wrote: > > GhiaccioHi Guys, > > I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer > > from them. > > Where should I get a set of plans? > > thanks, > > Dr. Tsabari Shahar > > 0039.0365.761000 > > Italy > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:05:30 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-Id: <3E68FB8A.000003.01184@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_6HAEG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lance Neibauer. Was building a KR and when he and his wife had a child, = he realized that the KR was not going to be large enough. He even put a kid= die window in the back and I think he was considering putting a kiddie seat b= ack there, but decided to take the plans to another level.=0D =0D He then went on to produce one of the finest airplanes on the planet, in = my opinion. If I could have any plane I wanted, that would be the one. A Lancair IV - P.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Friday, March 07, 2003 08:53:20 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> Plans.=0D =0D I cant think of his name off hand but Mr.lancair was once a member of my = EAA=0D chapter 96 and knew a few people in the chapter very well. He did start o= ut=0D with a KR. He drew up the plans to his first airplane and was told "make=0D those tail feathers bigger!"=0D =0D Justin=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Frank Ross" =0D To: =0D Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:19 AM=0D Subject: Re: KR> Plans.=0D =0D =0D > Tsabari,=0D > It is best to send a letter with a check or money=0D > order to RR requesting a set of plans.=0D > This is not a big company so be patient. RR is=0D > basically a one-person operation, but it is honest and=0D > reliable, if sometimes slow. You will get your=0D > materials and information, but maybe not as soon as=0D > you would like.=0D > On another note, I may be mistaken, but I believe that=0D > both Glasair and Lancair were designed by men who=0D > first built KRs.=0D > The Vision is a design that looks like a natural=0D > evolution of the KR design made of fiberglass and the=0D > BX Cherry is almost a larger version of the KR with=0D > better plans. Those might also be planes you'd like to=0D > look at.=0D > Best of luck=0D > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX, USA=0D >=0D > --- Volucer wrote:=0D > > GhiaccioHi Guys,=0D > > I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer=0D > > from them.=0D > > Where should I get a set of plans?=0D > > thanks,=0D > > Dr. Tsabari Shahar=0D > > 0039.0365.761000=0D > > Italy=0D > >=0D > >=0D > >=0D >=0D >=0D > __________________________________________________=0D > Do you Yahoo!?=0D > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more=0D > http://taxes.yahoo.com/=0D >=0D > ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D >=0D > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=0D > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D >=0D > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D >=0D >=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_6HAEG6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:12:11 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <013d01c2e4cc$bd42d410$ee02a8c0@piv226> Dear Dan, WE ARE THE POOREST ON THE WEB! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Lance Neibauer. Was building a KR and when he and his wife had a child, he realized that the KR was not going to be large enough. He even put a kiddie window in the back and I think he was considering putting a kiddie seat back there, but decided to take the plans to another level. He then went on to produce one of the finest airplanes on the planet, in my opinion. If I could have any plane I wanted, that would be the one. A Lancair IV - P. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Friday, March 07, 2003 08:53:20 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Plans. I cant think of his name off hand but Mr.lancair was once a member of my EAA chapter 96 and knew a few people in the chapter very well. He did start out with a KR. He drew up the plans to his first airplane and was told "make those tail feathers bigger!" Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:19 AM Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > Tsabari, > It is best to send a letter with a check or money > order to RR requesting a set of plans. > This is not a big company so be patient. RR is > basically a one-person operation, but it is honest and > reliable, if sometimes slow. You will get your > materials and information, but maybe not as soon as > you would like. > On another note, I may be mistaken, but I believe that > both Glasair and Lancair were designed by men who > first built KRs. > The Vision is a design that looks like a natural > evolution of the KR design made of fiberglass and the > BX Cherry is almost a larger version of the KR with > better plans. Those might also be planes you'd like to > look at. > Best of luck > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX, USA > > --- Volucer wrote: > > GhiaccioHi Guys, > > I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer > > from them. > > Where should I get a set of plans? > > thanks, > > Dr. Tsabari Shahar > > 0039.0365.761000 > > Italy > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:42:46 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Bill Higdon Subject: Re: KR> Plans. Message-ID: <3E68DA16.5070207@attbi.com> IIRC Lance also helped out with the KR-2 manual. Bill Higdon Dan Heath wrote: > Lance Neibauer. Was building a KR and when he and his wife had a child, he > realized that the KR was not going to be large enough. He even put a kiddie > window in the back and I think he was considering putting a kiddie seat back > there, but decided to take the plans to another level. > > > > He then went on to produce one of the finest airplanes on the planet, in my > opinion. If I could have any plane I wanted, that would be the one. A > Lancair IV - P. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: KRnet@mailinglists.org > > Date: Friday, March 07, 2003 08:53:20 AM > > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > > > > I cant think of his name off hand but Mr.lancair was once a member of my EAA > > chapter 96 and knew a few people in the chapter very well. He did start out > > with a KR. He drew up the plans to his first airplane and was told "make > > those tail feathers bigger!" > > > > Justin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank Ross" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:19 AM > > Subject: Re: KR> Plans. > > > > > > >>Tsabari, > > >>It is best to send a letter with a check or money > > >>order to RR requesting a set of plans. > > >>This is not a big company so be patient. RR is > > >>basically a one-person operation, but it is honest and > > >>reliable, if sometimes slow. You will get your > > >>materials and information, but maybe not as soon as > > >>you would like. > > >>On another note, I may be mistaken, but I believe that > > >>both Glasair and Lancair were designed by men who > > >>first built KRs. > > >>The Vision is a design that looks like a natural > > >>evolution of the KR design made of fiberglass and the > > >>BX Cherry is almost a larger version of the KR with > > >>better plans. Those might also be planes you'd like to > > >>look at. > > >>Best of luck > > >>Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX, USA > > > >>--- Volucer wrote: > > >>>GhiaccioHi Guys, >> > >>>I send a fax to RR for the plans but I got no answer >> > >>>from them. >> > >>>Where should I get a set of plans? >> > >>>thanks, >> > >>>Dr. Tsabari Shahar >> > >>>0039.0365.761000 >> > >>>Italy >> > > > > > > >>__________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:00:01 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: paulwasp@webtv.net (Paul Gangemi) Subject: Re: Which plane? Message-ID: <29696-3E68C201-3776@storefull-2193.public.lawson.webtv.net> Hi fellow netters, ...I would like to voice my opinion on the subject of: Which Plane Should I Build? ...RVs, Cozys, Nemesis, Visions, Pulsars, Expresses, etc., notwithstanding....all excellent homebuilt aircraft! ...But there's something about the KR mystique! The idea of building an attractive, fast, efficient and economical 2 place for peanuts is a compelling case for beating the system! I marvel at the idea of going 150 mph burning 3.5 gal an hour! And leaving nany GP aircraft in my wake! ...I hope that I will stick to my dream...it's hard to beat! Paul KR2s, geting ready to fill and (groan) sand in Erie, Pa. PLG http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulwaspspad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:50:09 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Which plane? Message-ID: <001101c2e4b8$da04fab0$dcda1818@computer> Well an RV isnt going to go 150 doing 3.5gph. A cozy is a 4-place airplane which will burn around 10doing 200mph carrying 4 people, of corse that is at 8500'. A Vision looks to be like a great airplane but not faster than a KR but a whole lot more $$$. The KR is the only in it's class for price to go the speed it does. No other plane will offer the same plane for the same money. Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gangemi" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: KR> Re: Which plane? > Hi fellow netters, > ...I would like to voice my opinion on the subject of: Which Plane > Should I Build? > ...RVs, Cozys, Nemesis, Visions, Pulsars, Expresses, etc., > notwithstanding....all excellent homebuilt aircraft! > ...But there's something about the KR mystique! The idea of building an > attractive, fast, efficient and economical 2 place for peanuts is a > compelling case for beating the system! I marvel at the idea of going > 150 mph burning 3.5 gal an hour! And leaving nany GP aircraft in my > wake! > ...I hope that I will stick to my dream...it's hard to beat! > > Paul > KR2s, geting ready to fill and (groan) sand in Erie, Pa. > > PLG > > http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulwaspspad > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:09:27 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: KR. Message-ID: <00e901c2e4c3$ee6139a0$ee02a8c0@piv226> ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C2E4CC.4F4A5CD0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00E6_01C2E4CC.4F4A5CD0" ------=_NextPart_001_00E6_01C2E4CC.4F4A5CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GhiaccioI like the KR and that's why I am here. Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy ------=_NextPart_001_00E6_01C2E4CC.4F4A5CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ghiaccio
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------=_NextPart_001_00E6_01C2E4CC.4F4A5CD0-- ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01C2E4CC.4F4A5CD0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:32:15 -0800 To: From: Jim Morehead Subject: Re: KR> KR. Message-ID: --MS_Mac_OE_3129874335_1243476_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 3/7/03 8:09 AM, Volucer at volucer@tin.it wrote: I like the KR and that's why I am here. Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy Dr. Tsabari, I talked to Mrs. Rand by phone this morning. She said that she received your FAX at 6:00 PM yesterday and she will FAX you today. Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA --MS_Mac_OE_3129874335_1243476_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:14:57 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Waldokr2@aol.com Subject: KR2 PARTS FOR SALE Message-ID: --part1_c6.1986a19d.2b9a2d91_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KR2 PARTS FOR SALE; Diehl nose gear $320 PPD. Aero-trim aileron & rudder trim control system $300 PPD. This system is used and recommended by; Aviation Consumer-Editorialized Twice US Border Patrol US Park Service Fla. Marine Patrol IowaState Highway Patrol Civil Air Patrol - US Air Force Aux. Selected by the Aliengena C-210 flight around the world via the Soviet Union Chosen by Tom Casey for his USAF sponsored around the world seaplane flight (C206) Choice of Glassair, Lancair, and all other homebuilts Standard equipment on Lake Amphibians and Tradewinds Turbines Turboprop Beech Endorsed by AOPA, Cessna Pilots Assoc., Comanche Society, Aerostar Assoc., Mooney,Ercoupers, Cherokee Pilots Assoc., Capt. Zodiac, Ray Stits. Lowell Thomas, Jr., Steve Kahn of "Wide World of Flying," and F. Lee Bailey. Bob McDonough waldokr2@aol.com 3308 NW 38th St Gainesville, FL 32606 --part1_c6.1986a19d.2b9a2d91_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************