From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 8 Mar 2003 18:22:06 -0000 Issue 653 Date: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:22 AM krnet Digest 8 Mar 2003 18:22:06 -0000 Issue 653 Topics (messages 15697 through 15710): N37891. 15697 by: Volucer Re: KR3. 15698 by: Dan Heath 15699 by: Volucer 15701 by: Robert Stone 15702 by: Dan Heath 15708 by: Frank Ross Re: KR Plaque at EAA 15700 by: Rick Wilson Re: KR Plaque at EAA DONATIONS 15703 by: Mark Jones 15707 by: Larry Deckert Airfoils. 15704 by: Volucer 15705 by: Alexander Birca (RMD) 15706 by: Volucer Comments. 15709 by: Volucer Greeting. 15710 by: Volucer Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:16:45 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: N37891. Message-ID: <009c01c2e574$f8c87910$ee02a8c0@piv226> ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C2E57D.59B3E630 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0098_01C2E57D.59B3E630"; type="multipart/alternative" ------=_NextPart_001_0098_01C2E57D.59B3E630 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_002_0099_01C2E57D.59B3E630" ------=_NextPart_002_0099_01C2E57D.59B3E630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ghiaccio Can anybody comment, it looks very well. Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy ------=_NextPart_002_0099_01C2E57D.59B3E630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ghiaccio
 

 
 
Can anybody comment, it looks very well.
 
Dr. Tsabari Shahar
0039.0365.761000
Italy

 

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Message-Id: <3E6A236F.00000A.01184@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_BXWFH890000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr. Tsabari Shahar=0D =0D You will not be able to send attachments thru the net. You can send link= s to web sites. I am not sure that the KR3 ever made it. You might want t= o focus on the KR1, KR2, or KR2S. =0D =0D I really like the KR2s, but most reports that I have read, indicate that = the KR2s is considerably slower than the KR2, given the same power plant.=20 Therefore, if you choose the KR2s, you might want to consider one of the more powerful power plants like an C0200, Corvair, or maybe a beefed up t= ype 4.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Saturday, March 08, 2003 05:10:47 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> KR3.=0D =0D Any information's regarding this:=0D =0D =0D =0D Dr. Tsabari Shahar=0D 0039.0365.761000=0D Italy=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_BXWFH890000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:22:35 +0100 To: From: "volucer" Subject: Re: KR> KR3. Message-ID: <002001c2e57e$2bbc0ea0$09146850@VAIO> the link is: http://users.erols.com/donreid/sportaviation/Photos.HTM the N37891 looks great. I have few questions, I am curious about the KR production: Any information's regarding the KR3?? Why the KR2 is faster, it is only because it is smaller? Dose the KR1 have wood in it or it is made from foam and composite? there are many KR2 that fly regularly? Dr. Shahar Tsabari Tel. +39.0365.761000 Fax +39.0365.761900 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR3. Dr. Tsabari Shahar You will not be able to send attachments thru the net. You can send links to web sites. I am not sure that the KR3 ever made it. You might want to focus on the KR1, KR2, or KR2S. I really like the KR2s, but most reports that I have read, indicate that the KR2s is considerably slower than the KR2, given the same power plant. Therefore, if you choose the KR2s, you might want to consider one of the more powerful power plants like an C0200, Corvair, or maybe a beefed up type 4. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Saturday, March 08, 2003 05:10:47 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> KR3. Any information's regarding this: Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:29:29 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> KR3. Message-ID: <002901c2e587$8c1f4380$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2E555.3E3F1E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GhiaccioDr Tsabari Shahar, Your post "Any information's regarding this:" came in without a = photo. There was nothing except a small box with a smaller box with a = red X in it. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Volucer=20 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:10 AM Subject: KR> KR3. Any information's regarding this: Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2E555.3E3F1E60-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:47:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR3. Message-Id: <3E6A3AA5.00000C.01184@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_DI1G7TH0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr. Shahar Tsabari=0D =0D =0D Go to http://www.KRNET.org and look at the picture of Richard Shirleys KR= 1 if you want to see one of the best examples of a KR ever built.=0D =0D The KR1, KR2, and KR2S are built the same. All have a wood fuselage with wood spars and foam and glass composite for the rest of the parts.=0D =0D I think the KR2 is a little faster because it is smaller and a little bit lighter. However, most if it really depends on how good the construction= is and how light you can build it.=0D =0D There are a lot of KR2s that fly. If you can ever get to a KR gathering, you will get a good sample of what they are really like.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Saturday, March 08, 2003 06:22:10 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> KR3.=0D =0D the link is: http://users.erols.com/donreid/sportaviation/Photos.HTM=0D =0D the N37891 looks great.=0D =0D I have few questions, I am curious about the KR production:=0D =0D Any information's regarding the KR3??=0D =0D Why the KR2 is faster, it is only because it is smaller?=0D =0D Dose the KR1 have wood in it or it is made from foam and composite?=0D =0D there are many KR2 that fly regularly?=0D =0D Dr. Shahar Tsabari=0D Tel. +39.0365.761000=0D Fax +39.0365.761900=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Dan Heath" =0D To: =0D Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:07 PM=0D Subject: Re: KR> KR3.=0D =0D =0D Dr. Tsabari Shahar=0D =0D You will not be able to send attachments thru the net. You can send links= =0D to web sites. I am not sure that the KR3 ever made it. You might want to=0D focus on the KR1, KR2, or KR2S.=0D =0D I really like the KR2s, but most reports that I have read, indicate that = the=0D KR2s is considerably slower than the KR2, given the same power plant.=0D Therefore, if you choose the KR2s, you might want to consider one of the=0D more powerful power plants like an C0200, Corvair, or maybe a beefed up t= ype=0D 4.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Saturday, March 08, 2003 05:10:47 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> KR3.=0D =0D Any information's regarding this:=0D =0D =0D =0D Dr. Tsabari Shahar=0D 0039.0365.761000=0D Italy=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_DI1G7TH0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:04:57 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> KR3. Message-ID: <20030308170457.20569.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com> If you wish to view more KRs, click on: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/ These are photos from the 2001 KR Gathering and represent a good variety of KRs. If you have limited internet time or a slow internet server, Mark has been considerate enough to make his site very quick to load and easier than most sites, so I recommend you look it over real well before moving on to others. Frank Ross in San Antonio, Texas, USA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:18:59 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA Message-ID: <20030308151859.12404.qmail@web21208.mail.yahoo.com> Mark, I agree with Mr. Stone. If we knew what the cost was we would have a better idea of how much each would need to contribute. I will contribute, but as my income is somewhat limited, I would like to have some idea of how much. Thanks, rick Wilson. --- Robert Stone wrote: > Mark, > If you get a total cost of everything you want > to do and publish this > information on the KRNet with a recommendation of > how much each active > member needs to come up with, I think you will have > better luck with > contributions. It seems to me that I see about 40 > people who are > contributors to the net on a regular basis if all of > them were willing to > come up with $10.00 this would be $400.00 (Just an > example) but you get the > idea. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@Hot.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR-Net" > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:37 PM > Subject: KR> KR Plaque at EAA > > > Hello All, > This project seems to have all the interest from > everyone on the net that > the Newsletter and On-Line Newsletter received. > Basically None!!! Typical of > this group. There are the few who always participate > and then there are > those who sit back and do nothing but want > everything. Eight people have > pledged certain dollar amounts. Seven people have > committed to pledge but > have not said an amount. One person has pledged to > match up to $500.00. I > will continue to work with the EAA's Adam Smith and > Lynn Curtis to make the > plaque happen. Also if there is enough in donations > and Jeanette Rand > agrees, we will have Ken Rand's name engraved on the > Memorial Wall at EAA > with a donation in his memory. > > Two people have offered to help with the history and > I need more input, > PLEASE. This is our chance to get the KR recognized > at EAA permanently. > Let's not blow this opportunity. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:50:34 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA DONATIONS Message-ID: <004901c2e58a$74e1d540$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" > Mark, I agree with Mr. Stone. If we knew what the cost > was we would have a better idea of how much each would > need to contribute. I will contribute, but as my > income is somewhat limited, I would like to have some > idea of how much. Thanks, Rick Wilson. Here are the costs again. EAA will fund the cost of the plaque. NO CHARGE, they just want us to provide content. Memorial Wall requires a minimum $395 donation. All donations above and beyond the $395 will go to EAA in the memory of Ken Rand and the KR. You are free to donate any amount you wish. I have had donations from $25 to $50 with one of our more elite members pledged to match up to $500. So any amount you wish to donate will be greatly appreciated. Donations may be sent to www.paypal.com account flykr2s@wi.rr.co or mail to Mark Jones 615 Wexford Circle Wales, WI 53183 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:58:43 -0700 To: From: "Larry Deckert" Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA DONATIONS Message-ID: <000b01c2e593$fa8fb370$0100a8c0@LARRYS> Mark, Forget my message about your address, didn't read far enough!! Larry Deckert Sandy, Ut ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: KR> KR Plaque at EAA DONATIONS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Wilson" > > > Mark, I agree with Mr. Stone. If we knew what the cost > > was we would have a better idea of how much each would > > need to contribute. I will contribute, but as my > > income is somewhat limited, I would like to have some > > idea of how much. Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > > Here are the costs again. > EAA will fund the cost of the plaque. NO CHARGE, they just want us to > provide content. > Memorial Wall requires a minimum $395 donation. > All donations above and beyond the $395 will go to EAA in the memory of Ken > Rand and the KR. > You are free to donate any amount you wish. > I have had donations from $25 to $50 with one of our more elite members > pledged to match up to $500. So any amount you wish to donate will be > greatly appreciated. > > Donations may be sent to www.paypal.com account flykr2s@wi.rr.co > > or mail to > > Mark Jones > 615 Wexford Circle > Wales, WI 53183 > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:25:00 +0100 To: From: "volucer" Subject: Airfoils. Message-ID: <008f01c2e58f$45383230$09146850@VAIO> ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C2E597.A5AAECE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_008C_01C2E597.A5AAECE0" ------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C2E597.A5AAECE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glacierthere is any flying example that demonstrated the difference = between the old airfoils and the new ones: better stability, speed etc. Pilots that fly on the old airfoils and on the new ones, I would like to = hear some real flying experience, I think that it is important to get = some of this information's before starting the project. There are any complete plans for the new wings that I can order ? Dr. Shahar Tsabari Tel. +39.0365.761000 Fax +39.0365.761900 ------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C2E597.A5AAECE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glacier
there is any flying example that demonstrated the difference = between the=20 old airfoils and the new ones: better stability, speed etc.
Pilots that fly on the old airfoils and on the new ones, I would = like to=20 hear some real flying experience, I think that it is important to get = some of=20 this information's before starting the project.
There are any complete plans for the new wings that I can order = ?
Dr. Shahar Tsabari
Tel. +39.0365.761000
Fax = +39.0365.761900

 

------=_NextPart_001_008C_01C2E597.A5AAECE0-- ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01C2E597.A5AAECE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:35:24 +0100 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: "Alexander Birca (RMD)" Subject: RE: KR> Airfoils. Message-ID: <9CC6CC2973F2D211B3580008C70DB2D205BDDC17@eatvint903.dsa.ericsson.se> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2E590.7543E892 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi Shahar, have a look at Mark Langford site, there you will find all kind of info about this subject. BR, Alex Birca -----Original Message----- From: volucer [mailto:volucer@tin.it] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:25 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Airfoils. there is any flying example that demonstrated the difference between the old airfoils and the new ones: better stability, speed etc. Pilots that fly on the old airfoils and on the new ones, I would like to hear some real flying experience, I think that it is important to get some of this information's before starting the project. There are any complete plans for the new wings that I can order ? Dr. Shahar Tsabari Tel. +39.0365.761000 Fax +39.0365.761900 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2E590.7543E892-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:38:11 +0100 To: From: "volucer" Subject: Re: KR> Airfoils. Message-ID: <00ac01c2e591$1c1e1f70$09146850@VAIO> ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C2E599.7D174830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GlacierSorry guys I just found the answers by my self at: = http://www.krnet.org/as504x/ by my self. Dr. Shahar Tsabari Tel. +39.0365.761000 Fax +39.0365.761900 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: volucer=20 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: KR> Airfoils. there is any flying example that demonstrated the difference between = the old airfoils and the new ones: better stability, speed etc. Pilots that fly on the old airfoils and on the new ones, I would like = to hear some real flying experience, I think that it is important to get = some of this information's before starting the project. There are any complete plans for the new wings that I can order ? Dr. Shahar Tsabari Tel. +39.0365.761000 Fax +39.0365.761900 ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C2E599.7D174830-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:12:40 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Comments. Message-ID: <002101c2e59e$4f1365e0$ee02a8c0@piv226> ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C2E5A6.B0570520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really nice, I just want to have it ready! Frank I love internet, I have a 512Mb ram, CPU at -12=B0C and fast = internet connection so it was a joke to get it load. I like Richard Shirley's KR1 cowling, is it possible to do the same with = KR2 ? The R/C model plane is very nice indeed can I scale it up........ I know that Mark web site is a very good place.=20 I think that Mark must be a very busy men, build the house, the car, the = airplane and even made Christmas gifts from wood, his handcraft capacity = are superior to the average. I would like to here from him. =20 I was restoring vintage motor cycles for my self so I have a good garage = with milling machine, lathe etc. but I don't have wood machines. Any = suggestions??? I would like to have a web site when starting up my project to keep me = tight to the work, as my many interest can distract me from the job. = Putting my self on the web, will make some pressure to finish it faster, = any suggestion were I would be able to host it for free. =20 73, Shahar ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR3. > If you wish to view more KRs, click on: > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/pinebluff2001/ > These are photos from the 2001 KR Gathering and > represent a good variety of KRs. > If you have limited internet time or a slow internet > server, Mark has been considerate enough to make his > site very quick to load and easier than most sites, so > I recommend you look it over real well before moving > on to others. > Frank Ross in San Antonio, Texas, USA >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >=20 > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >=20 > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C2E5A6.B0570520-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:22:08 +0100 To: From: "Volucer" Subject: Greeting. Message-ID: <003201c2e59f$a1c2bc90$ee02a8c0@piv226> ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C2E5A8.030B16C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002F_01C2E5A8.030B16C0" ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01C2E5A8.030B16C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GhiaccioGreeting for the woman day! Dr. Tsabari Shahar 0039.0365.761000 Italy ------=_NextPart_001_002F_01C2E5A8.030B16C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ghiaccio
Greeting for the woman day!
 
Dr. Tsabari Shahar
0039.0365.761000
Italy

 

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