From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 13 Mar 2003 14:20:56 -0000 Issue 657 Date: Thursday, March 13, 2003 7:21 AM krnet Digest 13 Mar 2003 14:20:56 -0000 Issue 657 Topics (messages 15778 through 15807): Re: Ideas to assist short strip landings 15778 by: virgnvs.juno.com 15784 by: Dan Heath 15790 by: Christian Kogelmann 15793 by: larry flesner 15807 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re: fuel tanks 15779 by: virgnvs.juno.com 15797 by: Edwin Blocher TRT250 Transponder For Sale 15780 by: KR2BLDR.aol.com EA-81 For Sale 15781 by: Scott Cable 15787 by: JOHN SAUNDERS 15789 by: Scott Cable Re: Alum. fuel tanks 15782 by: Dana Overall 15805 by: Bobby Muse Alum Fuel Tanks (Dana Overall) 15783 by: NORMAN SEEL 15786 by: Dana Overall aviation site 15785 by: foamhead.ls.net Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price 15788 by: Frank Ross 15791 by: Mark Jones 15794 by: Frank Ross 15795 by: Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff Alum Fuel Tanks 15792 by: larry flesner Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? 15796 by: Frank Ross 15798 by: jim . synergy design 15799 by: Jim Morehead 15800 by: Dan Heath 15801 by: Kevin 15802 by: NORMAN SEEL 15804 by: Frank Ross Driving to Sun-N-Fun (long) 15803 by: Frank Ross Sun-N-Fun, one more thing... 15806 by: Frank Ross Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:17:19 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Cc: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Ideas to assist short strip landings Message-ID: <20030312.113115.-354815.4.virgnvs@juno.com> SLIP, get time to learn the technique, Virg On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:05:46 +1300 "Peter & Sandra Holmes" writes: > I would appreciate any advice re air brakes ,flaps etc.that may be > fitted to > my KR2 tail-dragger to assist in landing as I operate off a one-way, > 700m > long grass-strip with some slope.Ground effect makes landings > fairly > difficult as I also have power lines and trees near the threshold. > Need to > make final approach at max airspeed 55/60kts to get in especially as > there > is often a tail wind. Flying time is restricted due to the above and > I > suspect a reduction in ground effect would reduce the lengthy > landing and > roll. Thanks for advice..... Peter Holmes > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL WWW.LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:24:32 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Ideas to assist short strip landings Message-Id: <3E6FA590.00003D.01184@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_WGNNE923LVC000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: What about a good low approach, followed by a slip into ground effect= =0D right tight at the button of the field?=0D =0D Why not, the KR is an easy plane to slip. The beauty of the KR is it's simplicity.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_WGNNE923LVC000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:19:16 +0100 To: From: "Christian Kogelmann" Subject: Re: KR> Ideas to assist short strip landings Message-ID: <004e01c2e8dd$1ee473e0$431b2e3e@aptivacomputer> Peter, that sounds familiar, the first flight of my KR-2S off a 660m long sealed runway turned almost into desaster. At the end of the landing there was not enough runway and the test pilot went into a shallow ditch, the airplane nosed over but luckily the engine was switched off and the prop stopped horizontally. After this incident, we went to a 3000m long air Force Base runway and practiced, practiced, practiced...(the KR does side slip as well...) Now we are back to the 660m. The approach speed we use is downwind 70, base 65 and final 60kts. The approach is very low and the treshold is the target line. We have the RR plans flaps and on approach we fully extended them (they improve runway visibility but do not have the braking effect, during hot days they seem to extend the float over the sealed runway even longer...). We use wheel braking as well. If everything is perfect we need 400m only, however if we can't get the above speeds it is better to go around. Maybe this helps. Cheers Chris KR-2S OE-VPD ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter & Sandra Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: KR> Ideas to assist short strip landings > I would appreciate any advice re air brakes ,flaps etc.that may be fitted to > my KR2 tail-dragger to assist in landing as I operate off a one-way, 700m > long grass-strip with some slope.Ground effect makes landings fairly > difficult as I also have power lines and trees near the threshold. Need to > make final approach at max airspeed 55/60kts to get in especially as there > is often a tail wind. Flying time is restricted due to the above and I > suspect a reduction in ground effect would reduce the lengthy landing and > roll. Thanks for advice..... Peter Holmes > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:19:53 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Ideas to assist short strip landings Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030312191953.007e2690@pop.midwest.net> > >Now we are back to the 660m. The approach speed we use is downwind 70, base >65 and final 60kts. >The approach is very low and the treshold is the target line. >We have the RR plans flaps and on approach we fully extended them (they >improve runway visibility but do not have the braking effect, during hot >days they seem to extend the float over the sealed runway even longer...). >We use wheel braking as well. If everything is perfect we need 400m only, >however if we can't get the above speeds it is better to go around. >Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris, Once you have your flare established, dump (retract) the flaps. This will help to kill the float. I've done it many times with Cessnas but they had the electric flaps. Remember, flaps are like all the other flight control surfaces on the aircraft. Their settings can be changed at any time when operated within their limits and assuming you understand the consequences of your actions. One of the questions the check pilot asked me some 30 years ago on my commercial check ride concerned the use of flaps. I had set up a full flap approach to a short field in a Cessna 150 (emergency) and he asked me what I'd do if I realized I was landing short. My immediate reply was "dump some flap". That was the answer he was looking for. He said many pilots will not retract flaps on approach once extended. Like a brain cramp or something. I placed a belly board on my KR. I had considered not doing so and just using the slip on approach to short runways. In the end I realized that the slip is only good to the point of flare. At that point you are in ground effect and the wing is the most efficent and that is where you need the drag for the shorter runways that I hope to fly from. I installed an electric operated belly board ( 9" X 30" ) that will deploy to 90 degrees down in 7 seconds. That and a 60" prop at idle should give me considerable drag on approach. I hope to be testing it this summer !! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:21:01 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Ideas to assist short strip landings Message-ID: <108.20849a9d.2ba1edcd@aol.com> --part1_108.20849a9d.2ba1edcd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 03/12/2003 8:21:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, flesner@midwest.net writes: > final 60kts 60 kts seems high for an aircraft the stalls at apx 50 MPH. I was taught that approach should be 1.3 times Vso. perhaps you should verify your stall speed and practice slower approaches. Orma, aka aviationmech --part1_108.20849a9d.2ba1edcd_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:14:32 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> fuel tanks Message-ID: <20030312.113115.-354815.2.virgnvs@juno.com> U MISS de dinn-dinn Friday nite,?? Virg On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:01:29 -0600 "Edwin Blocher" writes: > Ask Jeeves or search Google for Marine aluminum fuel tanks. > Or::Atlantic Coast Welding, Inc (800-434-TANK) will make any size > any shape. Tested and built to U.S.C.G Spec. > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > eblocher@earthlink.net > Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL WWW.LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:33:25 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> fuel tanks Message-ID: <001301c2e922$13bcdee0$0201a8c0@computer> Virg, Which din-din? I'll be driving down (8 hours) Friday and don't want to spend the $25 to get in that late in the day. I have never been to Sun N Fun so I don't know whats going on. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Re: KR> fuel tanks > U MISS de dinn-dinn Friday nite,?? > Virg > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:01:29 -0600 "Edwin Blocher" > writes: > > Ask Jeeves or search Google for Marine aluminum fuel tanks. > > Or::Atlantic Coast Welding, Inc (800-434-TANK) will make any size > > any shape. Tested and built to U.S.C.G Spec. > > Ed Blocher > > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > > eblocher@earthlink.net > > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL > WWW.LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:42:49 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: KR2BLDR@aol.com Subject: TRT250 Transponder For Sale Message-ID: <6d.c4315d3.2ba0bd89@aol.com> Terra TRT250 Transponder, solid state Brand new still in box with manuel, first $940.00 OBO, call (760) 252-5649 or e-mail me. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:54:41 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Scott Cable Subject: EA-81 For Sale Message-ID: <20030312165441.84688.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com> --0-30205483-1047488081=:84682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Netters, I have a Subaru EA-81 Turbo For Sale. The engine was purchased in 1996 from Mountain Tech ( Subaru Specialists) and has been sealed up and untouched since. Mountain Tech did a complete bottom end on the engine before it was shipped. Included is the fuel injection, turbo, computer, etc. There are also an extra set of used ( serviceable) non-turbo pistons included. Engine cost was over $1700+ shipping will take best offer over $1000. I'll make the crate and take it to whomever you want to do the shipping. Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Linden, MI s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online --0-30205483-1047488081=:84682-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:42:23 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: JOHN SAUNDERS Subject: Re: KR> EA-81 For Sale Message-ID: <3E6F9BAF.3B0F9926@ns.sympatico.ca> Please confirm if this is a new 0 time engine. Thanks, John. (?with or without psru?) Scott Cable wrote: > Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:41:19 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, jsaunders001@ns.sympatico.ca From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> EA-81 For Sale Message-ID: <20030312204119.88382.qmail@web40810.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2000725039-1047501679=:87380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John, Like I stated in the original posting, Mountain tech went through and replaced the bearings in the bottom end ( crank and rods). I don't believe they replaced pistons and rings) What is a PSRU? JOHN SAUNDERS wrote:Please confirm if this is a new 0 time engine. Thanks, John. (?with or without psru?) Scott Cable wrote: > Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Linden, MI s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online --0-2000725039-1047501679=:87380-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:48:17 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Alum. fuel tanks Message-ID: I just talked with Mark Jones about constructing two alum. outboard fuel tanks out of .032 2024-T3 either stock or alclad. We are going to make up a parts list and price list as we go. These tanks will be easy to build and you won't have to worry about what type of fuel you put in them. Just something else for you think about. The technique used to build these will be usable for either header tanks or wing tanks. I'm figuring about 3 hours per tank which will include a capacitive fuel sending system, BNC connection, 37 degree fuel line pickup and vent line along with aircraft standard fuel drain and fuel cap. It should be very, very light and cheap to build. Mark is drawing the tanks up and we will start after SNF. I'll document the construction and get with M.L. about doing it for the online newsletter also. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:05:16 -0600 To: From: "Bobby Muse" Subject: Re: KR> Alum. fuel tanks Message-ID: <002001c2e969$93cdc850$06053fd1@computer> > > What was the total number of layers for your tank? Weight of fiberglass? > Epoxy used - Vinylester? Thanks. > > My goal was to get to at least 36 ozs of fiberglass buildup. The first three layers that I used were 9oz fiberglass cloth and then two layers of 6oz during the final lay-up. If I had it to do again, I would used 6oz all the way because 9oz cloth was to hard to work with. My tank is fiberglass only, meaning that is not sandwich construction. I built a mold out of foam and glassed it. I glued foam as a mold to the bottom of my removable forward deck and was able cut or adjust the foam until I had proper clearances for the radio, instruments and my feet. I rounded all corners for easier lay-up. I used Safe-T-Poxy. Bobby Muse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:26:41 -0800 To: "krnet" From: "NORMAN SEEL" Subject: Alum Fuel Tanks (Dana Overall) Message-ID: <002801c2e8de$1c17c9e0$2b6d3f04@dslverizon.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2E89B.04976200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had read that 2024 Alum is unsatisfactory for welding and that 5052 is = recommended. Any comments? Norm Seel norman.seel@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2E89B.04976200-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:16:52 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Alum Fuel Tanks (Dana Overall) Message-ID: I don't know about the welding qualities of various alum. I will be using Proseal between flanges of ribs and sides to seal the tanks and will be riveting the tanks together. This is pretty standard procedure and it one I have done successfully. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "NORMAN SEEL" >Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >To: "krnet" >Subject: KR> Alum Fuel Tanks (Dana Overall) >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:26:41 -0800 > >I had read that 2024 Alum is unsatisfactory for welding and that 5052 is >recommended. Any comments? > >Norm Seel norman.seel@verizon.net _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:39:22 -0500 (EST) To: From: Subject: aviation site Message-ID: <36973.64.12.96.205.1047494362.squirrel@webmail.ls.net> New site for homebuilders. http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:58:36 -0800 (PST) To: krnet From: Frank Ross Subject: Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price Message-ID: <20030312195836.67722.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Sale ends today, 12 Mar. Just got back from my local Sears. You can order on line too. Tradesman nine inch bandsaw for $60, Sears #: 00923209000. That's half price. Hope a few of you get a chance to get this. For online, try clicking on here: http://www.sears.com/sr/search/featured/featuresearch.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0687899375.1047498286@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiadchkgkeekdcehgcemgdffmdflk.0&vertical=TOOL&bidsite=&kstring=Bandsaw&subcat=-1073870589 Good luck, Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:14:18 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price Message-ID: <005601c2e8e4$ba1ac7e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Thanks Frank, I have been waiting on a good deal to pop up on a bandsaw. Just went by Sears...they are sold out so I ordered one. Six week delivery time. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: "krnet" Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price > Sale ends today, 12 Mar. Just got back from my local > Sears. You can order on line too. Tradesman nine inch > bandsaw for $60, Sears #: 00923209000. That's half > price. Hope a few of you get a chance to get this. > For online, try clicking on here: > > http://www.sears.com/sr/search/featured/featuresearch.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0 687899375.1047498286@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfiadchkgkeekdcehgcemgdffmdflk.0&verti cal=TOOL&bidsite=&kstring=Bandsaw&subcat=-1073870589 > > Good luck, > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:13:46 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price Message-ID: <20030313031346.46156.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com> Mark, Glad you saw this in time. I also ended up with a 'rain check', since my store was sold out too. Deals like that go pretty fast. My old three-wheel bandsaw I bought used, five years ago, at a flea market for $40. This was a no-brainer. Frank Ross in San Antonio, Texas, USA --- Mark Jones wrote: > Thanks Frank, > I have been waiting on a good deal to pop up on a > bandsaw. Just went by > Sears...they are sold out so I ordered one. Six week > delivery time. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:24:30 -0800 To: From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price Message-ID: <006301c2e910$100f6c70$b3ac2804@home> Frank, Do you know if you can put a metal cutting blade in this small one? Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half price > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:18:27 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Alum Fuel Tanks Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030312191827.007e0550@pop.midwest.net> >I had read that 2024 Alum is unsatisfactory for welding and that 5052 is recommended. Any comments? >Norm Seel +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I know nothing about the different alloys but if you look in the "metal" section of the Wick's catalog where they list the alum, they give you the info you need. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:30:15 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-ID: <20030313053015.89295.qmail@web40910.mail.yahoo.com> Buddy, I don't know. Maybe someone else does? Sorry, Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX --- Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff wrote: > Frank, > Do you know if you can put a metal cutting blade in > this small one? > Bud Midkiff > Lynnwood, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ross" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half > price __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:22:58 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-ID: <000d01c2e931$60bf1500$0101a8c0@pavilion> You should be able to get metal cutting blades at a home improvement center, or a machinery dealer. Just look for it by the length of the blade, width, and teeth per inch(tpi). Jim----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? > Buddy, > I don't know. Maybe someone else does? > Sorry, > Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX > > --- Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff > wrote: > > Frank, > > Do you know if you can put a metal cutting blade in > > this small one? > > Bud Midkiff > > Lynnwood, WA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank Ross" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:13 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> Nine inch Bandsaws at Sears Half > > price > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:01:55 -0800 To: From: Jim Morehead Subject: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-ID: on 3/12/03 11:22 PM, jim @ synergy design at synergydesign@sopris.net wrote: > You should be able to get metal cutting blades at a home improvement center, > or a machinery dealer. Just look for it by the length of the blade, width, > and teeth per inch(tpi). Jim----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ross" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:30 PM > Subject: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? You can cut Alum with a wood cutting blade, but to cut iron, you need to run the saw at a much slower blade speed. Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:41:00 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-Id: <3E708A6C.00003F.01184@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_COWO4VA4G6G000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 10" Craftsman. I have some metal blades that I acquired at Sear= s.=20 They will cut soft aluminum, but will not cut metal and go dull cutting v= ery hard aluminum.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:08:38 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw?=0D =0D on 3/12/03 11:22 PM, jim @ synergy design at synergydesign@sopris.net wro= te:=0D =0D > You should be able to get metal cutting blades at a home improvement center,=0D > or a machinery dealer. Just look for it by the length of the blade, wid= th,=0D > and teeth per inch(tpi). Jim----- Original Message -----=0D > From: "Frank Ross" =0D > To: =0D > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:30 PM=0D > Subject: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw?=0D =0D =0D You can cut Alum with a wood cutting blade, but to cut iron, you need to = run=0D the saw at a much slower blade speed.=0D =0D Jim Morehead=0D Cameron Park, CA=0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_COWO4VA4G6G000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:47:04 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kevin Subject: Re: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-ID: <1359587.1047556024882.JavaMail.nobody@grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net> There are places that can make you a blade. At work I have made blades for our bandsaw as they buy the bulk blade. The bandsaw has a welder on the side of the machine. Nice feature, but then it is a $5000 bandsaw. Kevin. -------Original Message------- From: Dan Heath Sent: 03/13/03 08:41 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? > > I have a 10" Craftsman. I have some metal blades that I acquired at Sears. They will cut soft aluminum, but will not cut metal and go dull cutting very hard aluminum. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:08:38 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? on 3/12/03 11:22 PM, jim @ synergy design at synergydesign@sopris.net wrote: > You should be able to get metal cutting blades at a home improvement center, > or a machinery dealer. Just look for it by the length of the blade, width, > and teeth per inch(tpi). Jim----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ross" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:30 PM > Subject: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? You can cut Alum with a wood cutting blade, but to cut iron, you need to run the saw at a much slower blade speed. Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files . > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:56:19 -0800 To: "krnet" From: "NORMAN SEEL" Subject: Fw: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-ID: <003701c2e979$1e073a60$2b6d3f04@dslverizon.net> ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C2E936.0865F2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Getting a blade the correct length and number of teeth should be no = problem. However, the bandsaw has to run at a very slow speed, and this = would be difficult if it had a built in motor. I used a jack shaft on = mine and run the blade very slow. The blade should be kept lubricated. = Best to check in a machinery handbook for particulars. Norm ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C2E936.0865F2C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:00:51 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: KR> Metal-cutting blades in small Bandsaw? Message-ID: <20030313140051.78188.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all of you for all the information about cutting metal with bandsaws. Especially about slowing down the speed. Could a reostat be put on to control the speed? Thanks Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX --- NORMAN SEEL wrote: > Getting a blade the correct length and number of > teeth should be no problem. However, the bandsaw > has to run at a very slow speed, and this would be > difficult if it had a built in motor. I used a jack > shaft on mine and run the blade very slow. The > blade should be kept lubricated. Best to check in a > machinery handbook for particulars. > > Norm __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:58:06 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Driving to Sun-N-Fun (long) Message-ID: <20030313135806.85841.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Ed, Sun-N-Fun has a good web-site at: http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/flyin/main.asp You can get directions and a lot more information on that website, plus good maps. Believe me, you will need them. There are good directions on all the roads leading to the airport and the fly-in, but if you get off course, it is easy to get lost. Traffic management is very good, but pay attention as there are entirely different roads taking you to RV parking, camping, and general admission parking. Parking-lots are grass and your shoes, sox and legs will have a layer of soot-like dirt on them by the time you walk in from the car or back out in the evening. There is handicap parking. This is BIG. There are long lines to the parking lots at certain times of the day. Keep something to drink and a big bucket of chill-pills in your car (or truck). It can be a LONG walk from where you park to the entrance and inside there is a LOT of walking. It is every bit as big in territory as Oshkosh. And hot and humid. Of course, it is not much different from where you live, so you'll handle it okay, but a lot of folk from other places don't realize how warm it gets there this time of year. I usually take I-75 down to I-4 to Orlando (NOT Tampa) and watch for the signs. There will be signs for the Fly-In on the interstate. I try to get lost at least once every trip.:} There will be a traffic buildup around the Florida Turnpike exit on 75, same thing on the way back. You will probably hit stop-and-go traffic there for awhile and there is some construction on almost any interstate highway these days. A very beautiful route that won't take any longer, is to take Hwy 27 from Tallahassee across to meet I-75 around Ocala. Stay on I-10 PAST Tallahassee until you see Hwy 19 exit. That is a nice four-lane that will take you down to 27/19. Take Alternate 27 (it is a better road than 27)to I-75. At Chiefland watch for the split where Alt 27 goes left and 19/98, the main road, goes straight. Easy to get back on 27 if you don't go too far. Real pretty drive. Watch out for small-town cops who have to justify their existence by giving tickets to 'Yankees' (anybody who lives north of them). At the Fly-In find the Great Plains gang first. If you find the KR booth first, say hello to Virg and introduce yourself. They usually know where and when everything is happening, they are usually inside and you'll almost always find a KR person there (besides Steve). Good meeting point. I know you'll have a great time. Be sure to go to the Fly-mart. You won't believe it. Hope this helps. Come to think of it, if you were really insane and had lots of time, you could drive along the coast on 98 until you hit Alt 27. THAT would be a great drive. Frank Ross, San Antonio, TX --- Edwin Blocher wrote: > Virg, > Which din-din? > I'll be driving down (8 hours) Friday and don't want > to spend the $25 to get > in that late in the day. I have never been to Sun N > Fun so I don't know > whats going on. > ED > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > eblocher@earthlink.net __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:06:43 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Sun-N-Fun, one more thing... Message-ID: <20030313140643.79380.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> One more very important note. If you drive a long way, as soon as you get off the interstate, get to a restroom BEFORE you drive to the Fly-In. Once you get in those long lines on the little back roads, finally get into the parking lot, drive to a parking spot, and then have to walk another 20 minutes, stand in line at the ticket booth, trust me, this is NO TIME TO HAVE A FULL BLADDER! Don't ask how I know. Frank __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************