Received: from [66.113.66.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Fri, 9 May 2003 09:33:54 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19EAhM-000F0S-04 for lists@bouyea.net; Fri, 09 May 2003 09:26:16 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============30999270428260872==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 09:26:16 -0700 --===============30999270428260872== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: KRnet Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." --===============30999270428260872== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Today's Topics (22 messages) Today's Topics: 1. Re: Questions 2. Re: Wood Question 3. Re: Foam question 4. Looking for a nearby builder/owner (Russ Evans) 5. Re: Questions (bill kirkland) 6. Re: Wood Question (bill kirkland) 7. Re: draft KR-2S web site (Dan Heath) 8. Terra tx720 comm (Louis Staalberg) 9. Re: draft KR-2S web site (ROBERT COOPER) 10. Re: Looking for a nearby builder/owner (Brian Kraut) 11. Re: Questions (Phil Matheson) 12. RE: Moisture meter (Ron Freiberger) 13. FW: Looking for projects to look at (slemke) 14. A post that may be of interest (Dan Heath) 15. Re: Looking for a nearby builder/owner 16. Re: Terra tx720 comm 17. RE: Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps (S.F. Vidal) 18. RE: Moisture meter (Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA) 19. RE: Moisture meter (Dan Heath) 20. installing spinner (larry flesner) 21. Re: Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps 22. RE: Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps (Scott Cable) --===============30999270428260872== Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="===============93980123618664702==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:35:30 -0400 From: virgnvs@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Questions Message-ID: <20030508.150222.-631397.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Hank, see below On Wed, 7 May 2003 19:37:52 +0000 HENRY N ERICKSON writes Hi. > First time on net, so if I make any mistakes it because > I'm > not the sharpest pencil in the box. > My questions are: How come no info on tri gear setup > with > either KR1 or KR2 plans I purchased? Tri gear listed on parts available list and can be purchased from Rand as well as others Haven't started on my KR2 yet so any info on wing > tanks, > (not crazy about fuel in the cockpit area) Others will have to answer this Tri gear, (have no taildrager time) How to make controls > less > sensitive, (hear the KR2 can be a hand full) Myth, others have mastered this, you also can do it Different wing airfoil, and any thing else anyone > might > think helpful before I start. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PROJECT, Virg To save space on the net , any info can be sent to: > hankskr2@juno.com Thanks for any help > > Hank > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury Amsoil www.lubedealer.com/salisbury --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:43:25 -0400 From: virgnvs@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Wood Question Message-ID: <20030508.150222.-631397.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Aircraft Birch has a good quality control, Virg On Wed, 7 May 2003 19:28:52 -0500 "Justin" writes: > I seen Birch Plywood at the Local wood store. Is this ok for > airplanes? I know a fellow plane builder in my chapter who is > building his plane with Birch but im not sure where he got it. I am > no expert in anyway (obvously) on what is acceptable. > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury Amsoil www.lubedealer.com/salisbury --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:58:48 -0400 From: virgnvs@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Foam question Message-ID: <20030508.150222.-631397.4.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 3 NO, it will melt when in contact with fuel, Virg 2# density polyurethane will not melt when in contact with fuel On Thu, 8 May 2003 15:56:43 +0200 "Alexander Birca (RMD)" writes: > > OK guys, it is again me :-) > I had browsed Aircraft Spruce site, it is really good place. > The question is, there are two sort of foam polystyrene based, > STYROFOAM ­ SMALL CELL > and POLYSTYRENE ­ LARGE CELL . > Here I have only one option, STYROFOAM ­ SMALL CELL. Is it good or > not? What type > is used more often by you or what is your choice? > > Thanks, > Alex Birca > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury Amsoil www.lubedealer.com/salisbury --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:10:20 -0400 From: "Russ Evans" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Looking for a nearby builder/owner Message-ID: <00b701c31595$7844c8b0$58fea8c0@homer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 I'm located in Tallahassee, FL and would like to take a close-up look at a KR. Is there anyone fairly nearby that wouldn't mind showing me their plane or project? Thanks, Russ Evans --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:32 -0400 From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Questions Message-ID: <00b301c3159b$cdaa2560$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <20030507.193754.-3746583.0.iflyc150f-n8566g@juno.com> <00a601c31541$3a2274a0$e397dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Phil. Would you check the Diel aero address for me I can't get it to download. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND http wkirkland@rogers.com ----- From: "Phil Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: KR>Questions > Have alook at the Dan Diehl site, he mate the wingskins and tri gear > http://www.diehlaero.com/landing.htm > > Phil Matheson > matheson@dodo.com.au > > See our VW Engines and Home built web page at > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:51 -0400 From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wood Question Message-ID: <00b401c3159b$d4604920$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <001e01c314f8$cfffd240$83d81818@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Justin; Aircraft grade plywood has a high degree of quality control. The layers are very thin, they have no knots or internal faults or voids and the glues are high strength and waterproof. Thats what makes them so costly. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: KR>Wood Question I seen Birch Plywood at the Local wood store. Is this ok for airplanes? I know a fellow plane builder in my chapter who is building his plane with Birch but im not sure where he got it. I am no expert in anyway (obvously) on what is acceptable. Justin _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:38:15 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>draft KR-2S web site Message-ID: <3EBAF877.00001A.01216@dan> References: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E9717465B6D97@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 7 Your pictures did not show up. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From kr2cooper@msn.com Thu May 08 14:34:46 2003 Received: from bay3-dav48.bay3.hotmail.com ([65.54.169.78] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Dt2M-0009pS-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 08 May 2003 14:34:46 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:52:47 -0700 Received: from 63.25.192.215 by bay3-dav48.bay3.hotmail.com with DAV; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:52:47 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.25.192.215] X-Originating-Email: [kr2cooper@msn.com] From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <001e01c314f8$cfffd240$83d81818@computer> Subject: Re: KR>Wood Question Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 16:44:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN Mail 8.00.0022.3100 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V8.00.0022.3100 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2003 20:52:47.0646 (UTC) FILETIME=[C80A0BE0:01C315A3] X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Justin You can get aircraft quality birch plywood from A/C Spruce or Wicks or any other supplier. It is cheaper and heavier than Mahogany and I have used it. I would not attempt to cut corners on plywood even on my tight budget. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: KR>Wood Question I seen Birch Plywood at the Local wood store. Is this ok for airplanes? I know a fellow plane builder in my chapter who is building his plane with Birch but im not sure where he got it. I am no expert in anyway (obvously) on what is acceptable. Justin _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:01:19 -0700 From: "Louis Staalberg" To: Subject: KR>Terra tx720 comm Message-ID: <005801c315ad$729ca5a0$0200a8c6@toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 I am looking for a manual/schematic diagram for the Terra TX 720 radio. Is there anyone who has one and would be willing to copy it or send it to me so I could copy it? I will of course pay for all expenses and/or, as the case might be, return the manual promptly Hope someone can help me. Thanks, much, Louis Staalberg N9FL@cybertrails.com Payson, Arizona,USA 34-11.729 N 111-19.383W --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:02:47 -0400 From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>draft KR-2S web site Message-ID: References: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E9717465B6D97@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Christian Good start on your website and nice KR. Look foreward to seeing more. Your stick grips are very much like the one I made for my KR. http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/grip.html Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: KR>draft KR-2S web site > Hi guys, > > I have finally made it. I uploaded my first web site, please be gentle with > you critics as I will continue to improve the site quality. > > Here we go: > http://www.members.aon.at/oevpd > > Mark Langford, if you would be so kind and link it on your page? > > Suggestions welcome. > > Cheers > Christian > OE-VPD > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Kraut To: KR builders and pilots Cc: evansrf@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: KR>Looking for a nearby builder/owner Message-ID: <7289217.1052432730546.JavaMail.nobody@beaker.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 I am in Jacksonville. I am doing mods and should have mine flying in about a month. There are also two flying KRs in Jax. Contact me offline if you want to see mine or get contact for the others. -------Original Message------- From: Russ Evans Sent: 05/08/03 03:10 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Looking for a nearby builder/owner > > I'm located in Tallahassee, FL and would like to take a close-up look at a KR. Is there anyone fairly nearby that wouldn't mind showing me their plane or project? Thanks, Russ Evans _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:31:43 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Questions Message-ID: <002d01c315b1$9e358c50$f196dccb@Office> References: <20030507.193754.-3746583.0.iflyc150f-n8566g@juno.com><00a601c31541$3a2274a0$e397dccb@Office> <00b301c3159b$cdaa2560$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11 http://www.diehlaero.com/ Works for me, this is copied off the open web page. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 18:31:37 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>Moisture meter Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3EB5D02C.000001.01260@dan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 This was the subject of a long story at one of our EAA meetings. The PIC actually took off with water in the tail which had frozen. Very exciting. By all means, add drain holes NOW. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:45 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Moisture meter Don't know anything about a moisture meter, but I sure could use one. I was wet sanding this weekend and I had the plane outside, so instead of using a cloth to wipe off the residue, I used the hose. Big mistake. I got a lot of water into the fuselage and I think it got in through the elevator clearance hole. Has anyone installed drain holes to handle situations like this? I think I will have to put in inspection holes back there sooner than later. It is very difficult for a 5'9" 175# old body to crawl back in the fuselage to wipe up the water. This situation would most likely occur anytime you washed your plane if you used a hose to rinse it off. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 18:44:38 -0500 From: "slemke" To: Subject: KR>FW: Looking for projects to look at Message-ID: <000501c315bb$ca1be800$39320d44@om.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 13 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: slemke [mailto:slemke@cox.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 6:37 PM To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Subject: Looking for projects to look at =20 KRnet =20 I have seen several recent post from people looking for projects to look at. I think that this is something the KRnet was ment for. In the past two years of being on the net I have had only one person ask to see my project, and I was glad to have the chance to meet another builder. Before I stated building I had never seen a KR in person, I didn=92t = know where they were at. I check some builder list but found they were out of date and not everyone takes the time to set up the information. So here is my idea, lets start an unofficial =93Mutual Support Group for KR builders=94. I know it sound silly but all it would take is signing = your emails with your name, city and state. Then add a open invitation to all to contact you by email and arrange for a visit. =20 To all of the newbies and lurkers, how about a message from you about your future project or why you are thinking about a KR. All of the builders I have met are anxious to show off their projects. =20 I=92ll be happy to meet with anyone in my area that is thinking about building, you might have some tools I can borrow. =20 =20 Steve Lemke Omaha, NE =20 Open invitation to come see my project. --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:48:46 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>A post that may be of interest Message-ID: <3EBB332E.000021.01216@dan> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 Someone was asking me, off the net, about the elevator cable installation= =2E=20 So, I thought that I would document it as I have been procrastinating on doing it anyway. So here is a post, not of the week.=0D =0D Click here and you will not have to pass go, but you can always get back = to go, from this page.=0D =0D http://kr-builder.org/ElevatorControl/index.html =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar Thu May 08 19:27:12 2003 Received: from srvsr5.cpenet.com.ar ([200.51.28.248]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19DxbL-000Bc9-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 08 May 2003 19:27:11 -0700 Received: from iglesias [200.63.188.53] by srvsr5.cpenet.com.ar (SMTPD32-7.04) id A155AEC90212; Thu, 08 May 2003 23:24:21 -0300 Message-ID: <001301c315d2$9cbc2fc0$35bc3fc8@iglesias> From: "Iglesias" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <9CC6CC2973F2D211B3580008C70DB2D205BDDCC2@eatvint903.dsa.ericsson.se> <3EB8FC6C.9030209@newtech.com> Subject: Re: KR>Fiberglass question Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 23:38:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Steven What´s a ¿sleeze ball? it´s maybe sleaze? (American Slang Dictionary) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Eberhart" To: "KR builders and pilots" Cc: "Dana Overall" Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: Re: KR>Fiberglass question > OK guys. Here is a perfect example of how we have to live with the > consequences of our actions. We have, or had, a list participant that > has gone out of his way to help fellow builders with composite > questions. He has put on builder seminars at many of the gatherings and > has always gone out of his way to help other builders. Heck, he even > stayed around after selling his KR just because he loved the little > airplane and wanted to help out other builders. Well, he is gone now > because he didn't care to hang out with fellow builders that insisted on > calling him a "sleeze-ball" even if only by association. > > I think it is very interesting that the very next post after he > announced that he was un-subscribing was one asking for help with > composites. Well he is gone and you are not going to get an answer from > him. Repeat after me, ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. > > Dana have fun building your RV. I look forward to your posts on the RV > list. It is a shame we won't see your posts, that genuinely attempted > to help out your fellow builders, here on the KR list. > > Maybe, just maybe, if we keep our focus on airplanes we won't loose any > more people that have actually built an airplane. > > soapbox_mode=OFF > > Steve Eberhart > > Alexander Birca (RMD) wrote: > > Hi All, > > the question is, what is the thickness and tensile strength of fiberglass which is used for lay-up process. > > May I use one type (thickness or density?) of fiberglass or it should be different one in different area? > > Where I can read more detailed info about used fiberglass in KR construction. > > > > > > Thanks, > > Alex Birca > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 22:37:49 EDT From: B109pro@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Looking for a nearby builder/owner Message-ID: <116.22e94c43.2bec6e7d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 Hey Russ, I'm Skip Brooks and I live in St. Pete, you can look at my project on our EAA47 website. " EAA47.org " Just click on, if you have any questiions, you can email me a B109pro@aol.com. Best regards and blue skies, Skip --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 00:40:58 EDT From: ECLarsen81@aol.com To: N9FL@cybertrails.com, krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Terra tx720 comm Message-ID: <10c.23ace22d.2bec8b5a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Do you just need the schematic? Ed Larsen Ypsi, MI Luscombe SL-8-115 --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:43:47 +0200 From: "S.F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps Message-ID: <000501c31602$05f67750$01000001@sergevidal> In-Reply-To: <5f.392ecd2e.2beb19d2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 Stupid question, maybe, but what is an air pump used for in a car exactly? Serge F. VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC (happily flying) Johannesburg, South Africa E-mail: svidal@icon.co.za -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Glenda26@aol.com Sent: 08/05/2003 04:24 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps A few days back I saw a post about using a automotive air pump for a vacuum source by hooking to the intake instead the output of the pump. Does anyone know of a specific model number that can be used. All the ones I have checked so far only have an out port, and the pumps can only turn one way according to the dealers. Thanks, Glenda _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:40:53 +0200 From: Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA To: "'rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com'" , 'KR builders and pilots' Subject: RE: KR>Moisture meter Message-ID: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E9717461DBB11@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18 I have experienced water coming in from the elevator cut-outs. My KR collects about 2 quarts (which is approx. 2 liters) per 1 hour of flying in the rain. The water will stay right at the tail end, and I have added a drain hole and inspection hole ( 4" in accordance with FAA AC 43-13) below the horizontal stab. Makes cleaning water and dirt out of this confined space a lot easier. When I was building and working with water I always taped any cavities off. Christian OE-VPD http://www.members.aon.at/oevpd -----Original Message----- From: Ron Freiberger [mailto:rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com] Sent: Freitag, 09. Mai 2003 01:32 To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Moisture meter This was the subject of a long story at one of our EAA meetings. The PIC actually took off with water in the tail which had frozen. Very exciting. By all means, add drain holes NOW. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:45 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Moisture meter Don't know anything about a moisture meter, but I sure could use one. I was wet sanding this weekend and I had the plane outside, so instead of using a cloth to wipe off the residue, I used the hose. Big mistake. I got a lot of water into the fuselage and I think it got in through the elevator clearance hole. Has anyone installed drain holes to handle situations like this? I think I will have to put in inspection holes back there sooner than later. It is very difficult for a 5'9" 175# old body to crawl back in the fuselage to wipe up the water. This situation would most likely occur anytime you washed your plane if you used a hose to rinse it off. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 06:07:00 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: RE: KR>Moisture meter Message-ID: <3EBBA7F4.000023.01216@dan> References: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E9717461DBB11@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 19 Christian,=0D =0D When I go to your site, this picture does not display. There is also one missing at the bottom right corner of the page.=0D =0D /_borders/top.ht2.jpg=0D =0D I just thought you would want to know.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Fri May 09 03:03:12 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19E4ie-000D3O-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 09 May 2003 03:03:12 -0700 Received: from dan ([151.213.91.230]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20030509100347.PFEH20233.mta01-srv.alltel.net@dan>; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:03:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3EBBA847.000025.01216@dan> Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 06:08:24 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1850894) From: "Dan Heath" References: <000501c31602$05f67750$01000001@sergevidal> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: , Subject: RE: KR>Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Serge,=0D =0D I asked Jerry the same stupid question. He told me it was for smog contr= ol. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From VANCE@claflinwildcats.com Fri May 09 05:12:04 2003 Received: from 63-245-139-250.kitusa.com ([63.245.139.250] helo=mail.claflinwildcats.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 19E6jL-000DVf-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 09 May 2003 05:12:03 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer ([]) by mail.claflinwildcats.com (Merak 5.7.4) with SMTP id EYB37074 for ; Fri, 09 May 2003 07:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c31624$cab689a0$0400a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "JIM VANCE" To: "krnet" Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 07:14:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Smog pumps X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: The smog pump was actually an air pump. The air was injected at the = outlet of the exhaust valves to assure that there was plenty of oxygen = to burn any carbon that came out of the cylinders. This was the 1970's = way to reduce carbon monoxide emissions from the engines. It worked = fairly well, although I'm sure blowing cold air on the valve stems could = warp them and increase the amount of deposits that would build up. Once computer controlled injection systems, variable electronic timing, = and oxygen sensors in the exhaust sytem were invented, the engine = builders used fuel/air/ignition management to minimize emissions. Then = the air pump went the way of the running board. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 08:07:32 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>installing spinner Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030509080732.0081c3c0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <000801c31378$2e89ec60$9200a8c0@bstarrs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 20 Netters, I spent the better part of the last two days installing my spinner. I'll share the procedure I used to mark the cut-outs on the spinner that required no measuring and turned out to be quite accurate. I first made my templete for the cut-out as directed by the instructions that came with the spinner. It was simply a copy of several pages from one of the Tony Bingelis books. It has you make an oversize cut-out on poster board or other heavy paper. You place it around the propeller and then use many pieces of tape to further refine the cut-out before transfering the final shape to another piece of paper. At that point I placed my spinner on a piece of poster board and traced two separate circles around the spinner. I placed the templete on the spinner and marked the cut points for the back edge of the spinner and then transfered these marks to circle number one. I cut this circle out and folded it in half twice with each fold at 90 degrees to each other. This gave me the exact center of the circle. Using a ruler, I drew a line from each of the two marks through the center point to the opposite side. This gave me the location of the cut-out exactly 180 degrees from the first. I placed the cut-out circle with the cut-outs marked onto the second circle and transfered these marks to extend outside the circle. I placed the spinner onto the second circle and transfered these marks to the spinner. Cut the propeller holes in the spinner undersize and slowly refine them to a perfect fit. Don't forget to tape your propeller so it doesn't get all scratched up in the process. My spinner is installed and looks good. Good luck. Your results may vary! Larry Flesne Carterville, Illinois Project available for viewing anytime, hopefully Red Oak this September! --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:33:26 -0400 From: virgnvs@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps Message-ID: <20030509.114341.-39193.7.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 21 NO STUPID QUESTIONS, just smart a--- answers. They use the pump to put air into the exaust manifold and have a better ratio of air to Co mix, Virg On Fri, 9 May 2003 06:08:24 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) "Dan Heath" writes: > Serge, > > I asked Jerry the same stupid question. He told me it was for smog > control. > > > N64KR > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Red Oak - 2003 > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury Amsoil www.lubedealer.com/salisbury --===============93980123618664702== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:48:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Smog pumps used as vacuum pumps Message-ID: <20030509154854.3434.qmail@web40807.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3EBBA847.000025.01216@dan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 22 Serge,The "Smog Pump" was incorporated into vehicle exhaust systems beginning in the early 70's. The therory behind them was to use low pressure, high volume air injected into the exhaust system to serve 2 purposes:1.) Dilute the exhaust gases2.) Control the catylitic converter temperature When the big three started adding catylitic converters under the cars, you may recall a number of saftey advisories about operating the vehicles in tall brush- the hot catylitic coverters started brush fires! Dan Heath wrote:Serge, I asked Jerry the same stupid question. He told me it was for smog control. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Red Oak - 2003 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Linden, MI s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.From flesner@midwest.net Fri May 09 09:26:07 2003 Received: from epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.181]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19EAhD-000Ey3-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 09 May 2003 09:26:07 -0700 Received: from dsc03-cir-oh-2-66.rasserver.net ([207.222.80.66] helo=larry-flesner) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19EAhn-0000Zl-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 09 May 2003 09:26:43 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030509112425.00814270@pop.midwest.net> X-Sender: flesner@pop.midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:24:25 -0500 To: krnet@mylist.net From: larry flesner In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20030509080732.0081c3c0@pop.midwest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: KR>installing spinner X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Bob Lee e-mailed me a question that I will reply to the net as others may have the same question. >Did your spinner have a front plate? If so, how did you locate and install >the front plate? >Bob Lee >______________________________ Yes it did. When I ordered the spinner I had to give them the thickness of the prop and they made the front plate to fit at that location. I installed the front plate between the crush plate and the propeller so that all the spacing was correct. When installed , the spinner rear edge fit just to the rear edge (within 1/16") of the rear edge of the rear mount plate and snug against the front plate. Because of the design of the front plate, I had to notch it out for the propeller. Some designs make that unnecessary. Your results may vary! 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