Received: from [66.113.66.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Mon, 19 May 2003 12:06:08 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Hprh-0007Nk-01; Mon, 19 May 2003 12:00:05 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============89866332936987181==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:00:05 -0700 --===============89866332936987181== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: KRnet Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." --===============89866332936987181== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Today's Topics (24 messages) Today's Topics: 1. ballistic chute for sale (WILLIAM HUNTLEY) 2. Re: KR (bill kirkland) 3. Re: KR (gwvandor) 4. Speed Brake (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 5. Fw: KR>KR (Norm) 6. Re: Speed Brake (bwunder) 7. Venturi (Colin) 8. aluminum 9. Speed Brake (larry flesner) 10. Re: aluminum (Mark Langford) 11. QUESTION ON INSTALLING DEIHL WING SKINS RIBS 12. aluminum (larry flesner) 13. 2" cabin heat "Y" valve (Mark Langford) 14. 2" cabin heat "Y" valve (larry flesner) 15. Re: 2" cabin heat "Y" valve (Mark Langford) 16. Re: KR (Mark Jones) 17. Re: KR (Mark Langford) 18. Re: 2" cabin heat "Y" valve (Mark Jones) 19. Re: Speed Brake (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 20. Re: Speed Brake (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 21. WAF bolts sizes (S.F. Vidal) 22. RE: WAF bolts sizes (Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA) 23. Corvair Tech data 24. Re: Corvair Tech data (Mark Langford) --===============89866332936987181== Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="===============48638116053128622==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:16:15 -0700 From: "WILLIAM HUNTLEY" To: Subject: KR>ballistic chute for sale Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 The landing gear and brakes have sold, the ballistic chute is still avail= able. =20 E-mail me if interested. Bill Huntley 906-864-0347 (near Green Bay, WI) --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 17:42:14 -0400 From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <003301c31d86$5d861f80$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <005701c31cbf$6e135d80$fdc78d41@com> <000f01c31d3b$b65a40f0$485f570c@donnas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Tim; I have two venturi's on my 150. there is no suction guage. They drive the DGI and A/H. They are mounted on the side ust aft of the engine compartment. They are uncovered all year. Simple and reliable but don't count on them in ice. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkland@vianet.on.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "Robert Tate Gann" ; "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: KR>KR > Hi everyone, > I have a new "Old" question , > Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" long)venturie > to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't > follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this > instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an > engine driven pump. > The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? > Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would covering > it on the ground be ok instead? > Thanks > Tim Bellville > KR2 > N7038V > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 17:06:48 -0500 From: "gwvandor" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <000e01c31d89$d368c650$2fb2fea9@yourib3g4dzt9h> References: <005701c31cbf$6e135d80$fdc78d41@com><000f01c31d3b$b65a40f0$485f570c@donnas> <003301c31d86$5d861f80$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: KR>KR > Tim; I have two venturi's on my 150. there is no suction guage. They drive > the DGI and A/H. They are mounted on the side ust aft of the engine > compartment. They are uncovered all year. Simple and reliable but don't > count on them in ice. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Bellville" > To: "Robert Tate Gann" ; "KR builders and pilots" > > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:47 AM > Subject: KR>KR > > > > Hi everyone, > > I have a new "Old" question , > > Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" > long)venturie > > to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't > > follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this > > instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an > > engine driven pump. > > The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? > > Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would > covering > > it on the ground be ok instead? > > Thanks > > Tim Bellville > > KR2 > > N7038V > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > the venturie slow jou down10mph get diferent sourse suction!or go electric a/h! i have an old qestion=on the trailing edge of the kr1elevater what is the minimum up and down travel please anibody help george vandor. --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 18:10:01 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Speed Brake Message-ID: <20030518.181002.4032.1.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Just an update: As some of you know I designed and built a bellyboard over the winter here in Pa. Today was the first flight with it installed. In a nut shell the cruise speed was unaffected,( some thought the board would drag somewhat in the retracted position.) however the pitch has really flattened out when slowing down on final. Prior to the brake installation, at 80 mph I had to hold the nose up so high that visability was greatly reduced while approaching the airport on final. Now that has been corrected and the speed over the fence has been reduced to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 touch and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, it's unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:30:43 -0700 From: "Norm" To: "Krnet" Subject: Fw: KR>KR Message-ID: <002c01c31dae$a5e0e440$e56d3f04@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C31D73.F8E1D4A0" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C31D73.F8E1D4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess this makes me a complaining grouch, but I find it disturbing to get a blank message and see that it was sent as an attachment. ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT WORK on the list. Norm Seel Brandon, FL norman.seel@verizon.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gleone" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:32 AM > Subject: Re: KR>KR > > ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C31D73.F8E1D4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT00036.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00036.txt" =0D One guy built his into the wing root. Made for a great looking = installation I downloaded the picture but don't remember the link. The problem is = the picture is on my other computer which the C drive has crashed and = burned.=20 It will be a while before I get it up and running again. I think if you = do a search in the archives for "venturie", you'll find the link.=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:48:45 AM=0D To: Robert Tate Gann; KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: KR>KR=0D =0D Hi everyone,=0D I have a new "Old" question ,=0D Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" = long)venturie=0D to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I = didn't=0D follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this=0D instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using = an=0D engine driven pump.=0D The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right?=0D Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would = covering=0D it on the ground be ok instead?=0D Thanks=0D Tim Bellville=0D KR2=0D N7038V=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D . ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C31D73.F8E1D4A0-- --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:34:23 -0500 From: "bwunder" To: Subject: Re: KR>Speed Brake Message-ID: <004801c31d9e$65e2b360$b5e5150a@computer> References: <20030518.181002.4032.1.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Ken, Are you still using flaps? r/Bernie Lexington Park, MD KR2S Builder ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth L Wiltrout" To: Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: KR>Speed Brake > Just an update: As some of you know I designed and built > a bellyboard over the winter here in Pa. Today was the first flight with > it installed. In a nut shell the cruise speed was unaffected,( some > thought the board would drag somewhat in the retracted position.) however > the pitch has really flattened out when slowing down on final. Prior to > the brake installation, at 80 mph I had to hold the nose up so high that > visability was greatly reduced while approaching the airport on final. > Now that has been corrected and the speed over the fence has been reduced > to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 touch > and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, it's > unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:41:37 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Venturi Message-ID: <003a01c31d97$065e5ae0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 7 Tim, You will need a regulator for your venturi if you use the largest one = that AS&S sells because it is capable of producing too much vacuum. The = smaller ones are sufficient for about 4 inches of mercury, if memory = serves. You want to install a suction gauge if using the large one to = allow ease of calibrating the regulator to an acceptable setting and if = you are doing alot of night flying, especially cross country, I would = want to know if my heading indicator, and attitude indicator were = getting sufficient vacuum in order to be able to trust them. I have been = in IMC twice now with partial panel situations caused by either low = vacuum, or gauge malfunction. My opinion is you can't have too much = information in flight. Suction gauge is small cheap insurance to the = health of the vacuum system. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From skphil@charter.net Sun May 18 17:02:11 2003 Received: from rems08.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.8.208]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19HY6V-000P9U-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 18 May 2003 17:02:11 -0700 Received: from [68.119.84.150] (account ) by rems08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.6) with HTTP id 891665 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 20:03:13 -0400 From: To: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0.6 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:03:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: KR>Sender??? X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Can someone tell my why my e-mail address is showing on several senders messages. (krnet-bounces-skphil ....... --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:15:44 -0400 From: To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>aluminum Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Looking for aluminum as listed in plans for hardware. Not all types are available by aircraft spruce. I don't have wicks. Is their other sources? --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:14:41 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Speed Brake Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030518191441.008291d0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <20030518.181002.4032.1.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 >to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 touch >and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, it's >unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ken, Good info. Please tell us the size of your speed brake, what station on the fuselage it is mounted, and at what deflection angle do you operate it. I have a 9" X 30" that will deflect to 90 degrees. I hope to have it flying this summer and will give some feedback when I have some numbers. Larry Flesner --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:19:06 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>aluminum Message-ID: <038201c31d9c$42a418a0$1202a8c0@basement> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 skphil@charter.net wrote: > Looking for aluminum as listed in plans for hardware. Not > all types are available by aircraft spruce. I don't have > wicks. Is their other sources? Wicks has an online catalog at http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalogIndex.php , and Shapiro Supply at http://www.shapirosupply.com/ is another good place. I've built everything I needed for my plane from one of these two places, so that ought to do ya... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:20:42 EDT From: Cowgirlflying@wmconnect.com To: KRNET@MYLIST.NET Subject: KR>QUESTION ON INSTALLING DEIHL WING SKINS RIBS Message-ID: <15d.1f80591b.2bf97d5a@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11 I'm installing the wing ribs for my wing skins My question is when I attach the rear wing spar to the end rib I have about a 1/8 inch angle gap between the spar end end and rib. Is this normal or is there something I should do to correct it If so can anyone point me in the right direction. I can't find anything in the manual on this. Thanks Pat --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:19:12 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>aluminum Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030518191912.0082e100@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12 >Looking for aluminum as listed in plans for hardware. Not >all types are available by aircraft spruce. I don't have >wicks. Is their other sources? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wick's has an on-line catalog. www.wick's.com (?) or just do a search for Wick's and it will come up. Also, it would be nice if everyone signed their e-mail so we know who we are replying to. Thanks. Larry Flesner --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:22:10 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>2" cabin heat "Y" valve Message-ID: <038f01c31d9c$b0c06b90$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 I've been scratching my head over the intake/carb heat/cabin heat system all day. One thing that I think I need, but can't find, is an aluminum or stainless 2" Y valve with a butterfly in the middle to shift air flow from one leg of the Y to the other. Anybody know where I could find one of these critters? I'm really not in the mood to design and build my own system, when the stuff is sitting on a shelf somewhere waiting for my Visa card number... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:29:53 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>2" cabin heat "Y" valve Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030518192953.00827eb0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <038f01c31d9c$b0c06b90$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14 >I've been scratching my head over the intake/carb heat/cabin heat system all >day. One thing that I think I need, but can't find, is an aluminum or >stainless 2" Y valve with a butterfly in the middle to shift air flow from >one leg of the Y to the other. >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mark, seems like I saw one in the Wick's catalog the other day. You will need one for carb heat and one for cabin heat. The carb heat box valve just flops back and forth for source A or B air. The cabin heat valve either directs heat to the cabin or dumps it overboard. I got my cabin heat valve off the firewall of a C-172. I didn't realize it at the time but it has a 3" inlet. Where am I going to find that much hot air on a KR? :-) Larry Flesner --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:35:40 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>2" cabin heat "Y" valve Message-ID: <039f01c31d9e$938bd940$1202a8c0@basement> References: <3.0.6.32.20030518192953.00827eb0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 Larry wrote: > seems like I saw one in the Wick's catalog the other day. You will > need one for carb heat and one for cabin heat. The carb heat box > valve just flops back and forth for source A or B air. The cabin heat > valve either directs heat to the cabin or dumps it overboard. I've spent half the day in the AS&S, Wicks, Wag-Aero, catalog. Haven't seen what I'm lookin' for yet, but may end up using it if I can't find or make what I want. By the way, the stuff that all these guys sell is located at http://www.aviacompworldwide.com/heatboxes.html , if you'd like a little better picture and description... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:00:34 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <007601c31daa$6f7e4d60$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <002c01c31dae$a5e0e440$e56d3f04@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Norm, I am able to open the attachment from gleone. I too thought that they were prohibited but maybe that has changed. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm" To: "Krnet" Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: Fw: KR>KR > > > > I guess this makes me a complaining grouch, but I find it disturbing to > get a blank message and see that it was sent as an attachment. > ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT WORK on the list. > > > Norm Seel > Brandon, FL > norman.seel@verizon.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "gleone" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:32 AM > > Subject: Re: KR>KR > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:00:08 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <03c601c31daa$601c7770$1202a8c0@basement> References: <002c01c31dae$a5e0e440$e56d3f04@dslverizon.net> <007601c31daa$6f7e4d60$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 Mark Jones wrote: > Norm, I am able to open the attachment from gleone. I too thought that they > were prohibited but maybe that has changed. As soon as I figure out a way, they'll be prohibited! I see no reason why everybody should be forced to make four mouse clicks instead of one... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:07:54 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>2" cabin heat "Y" valve Message-ID: <009901c31dab$75fc7bc0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20030518192953.00827eb0@pop.midwest.net> <039f01c31d9e$938bd940$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 18 Mark L, The industrial distributor I work for represents about 200 manufactures and I just may be able to find what you need. I will search it out for you tomorrow. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Re: KR>2" cabin heat "Y" valve > Larry wrote: > > > seems like I saw one in the Wick's catalog the other day. You will > > need one for carb heat and one for cabin heat. The carb heat box > > valve just flops back and forth for source A or B air. The cabin heat > > valve either directs heat to the cabin or dumps it overboard. > > I've spent half the day in the AS&S, Wicks, Wag-Aero, catalog. Haven't seen > what I'm lookin' for yet, but may end up using it if I can't find or make > what I want. By the way, the stuff that all these guys sell is located at > http://www.aviacompworldwide.com/heatboxes.html , if you'd like a little > better picture and description... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 22:03:38 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Speed Brake Message-ID: <20030518.221340.4032.2.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 19 Bernie, 6399U was built w/out flaps. Landings were long to say the least. On Sun, 18 May 2003 19:34:23 -0500 "bwunder" writes: > Ken, > Are you still using flaps? > r/Bernie > Lexington Park, MD > KR2S Builder > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth L Wiltrout" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 5:10 PM > Subject: KR>Speed Brake > > > > Just an update: As some of you know I designed and > built > > a bellyboard over the winter here in Pa. Today was the first > flight with > > it installed. In a nut shell the cruise speed was unaffected,( > some > > thought the board would drag somewhat in the retracted position.) > however > > the pitch has really flattened out when slowing down on final. > Prior to > > the brake installation, at 80 mph I had to hold the nose up so > high that > > visability was greatly reduced while approaching the airport on > final. > > Now that has been corrected and the speed over the fence has been > reduced > > to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 > touch > > and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, > it's > > unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 22:13:39 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Speed Brake Message-ID: <20030518.221340.4032.3.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 20 The speed brake is hinged directly below the aft face of the rear spar into a hard point on the fuse bottom.. The dimensions are 28" X 10" with a total of 60 degrees of deflection. I was hoping for more deflection but the 3 position actuator I designed only allowed for the 60 deg. I may redo that next winter, I allowed for 90 deg in the design of the brake itself. We'll see. I think at 90 deg with the size of the brake it may be a bit much, we'll see. On Sun, 18 May 2003 19:14:41 -0500 larry flesner writes: > >to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 > touch > >and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, > it's > >unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Ken, > > Good info. Please tell us the size of your speed brake, what > station on the fuselage it is mounted, and at what deflection angle > do you operate it. > > I have a 9" X 30" that will deflect to 90 degrees. I hope to have > it > flying this summer and will give some feedback when I have some > numbers. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:25:45 +0200 From: "S.F. Vidal" To: Subject: KR>WAF bolts sizes Message-ID: <000f01c31e02$71acbe20$01000001@sergevidal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 21 Could somebody tell me what sizes of spanners I need to remove the wings of a KR2? You see, here in South Africa, everything is metric. Imperial size spanners are an oddity and a rarity, and must be ordered. Serge F. VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC (happily flying) Johannesburg, South Africa E-mail: svidal@icon.co.za --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:53:03 +0200 From: Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA To: "'svidal@icon.co.za'" , 'KR builders and pilots' Subject: RE: KR>WAF bolts sizes Message-ID: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E9717461DBB25@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 22 Serge, I use a 9/16 for the main spar and 3/8 for the auxiliary spar. BTW there is a KR2 (former TD now converted to Tri Gear) with 5 hours on it for sale in Germany. It was build by a flying club but it was decided after 5 hours of flying that the KR is not really suitable as a club airplane. Regards Christian OE-VPD http://www.members.aon.at/oevpd -----Original Message----- From: S.F. Vidal [mailto:svidal@icon.co.za] Sent: Montag, 19. Mai 2003 12:26 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>WAF bolts sizes Could somebody tell me what sizes of spanners I need to remove the wings of a KR2? You see, here in South Africa, everything is metric. Imperial size spanners are an oddity and a rarity, and must be ordered. Serge F. VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC (happily flying) Johannesburg, South Africa E-mail: svidal@icon.co.za _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:18:32 -0400 From: To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Corvair Tech data Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 23 Just picked up my $100.00 (running when it was taken out of the car) corvair (pig in a poke). Looking for technical data for ALL tolerances for instection purposes when I tear it down. I know of William Wynne, but would like info in format like Haynes, or chilton. Plus any data that will help this pig fly. Steven Phillabaum skphil@charter.net Auburn Al. --===============48638116053128622== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:05:41 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Corvair Tech data Message-ID: <001001c31e28$e12aceb0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 24 Steven Phillabaum wrote: > Just picked up my $100.00 (running when it was taken out > of the car) corvair (pig in a poke). Looking for > technical data for ALL tolerances for instection purposes > when I tear it down. I know of William Wynne, but would > like info in format like Haynes, or chilton. Plus any > data that will help this pig fly. First thing you need to do is buy William Wynne's conversion manual. It will be the best $59 you ever spent. The first thing it might tell you is if you bought the wrong engine. You can order his outstanding manual at http://www.flycorvair.com/products.html . Next, visit Pat Panzera's official CorvAircraft site, and check your head and case numbers at http://www.corvaircraft.com/ to see what you have, and to find instructions on how to subscribe to the CorvAircraft list. There are about 300 guys sitting around there waiting to answer everything you ever wanted to know about making Corvairs fly. And you could always visit my Corvair site at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/ if you wanted more excruciating details. But to answer your question, all you need is the $19.95 1965 GM Corvair Shop Manual, available from Clark's Corvair at http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/pages.cgi?category=home , or Corvair Underground at http://www.corvairunderground.com/. 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