Received: from [66.113.66.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:04:33 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19MuXL-000CvW-01 for lists@bouyea.net; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:00:03 -0700 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 54, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:00:03 -0700 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: RE: KR1004k 2. Re:circut breakers (Joseph H Horton) 3. RE: KR1 - first time builder? (Jim Faughn) 4. test (Leigh Plymale) 5. Re: KR1 - first time builder? (Edwin Blocher) 6. Re: KR1 - first time builder? (Mark Langford) 7. RE: KR1 - first time builder? (Jim Faughn) 8. Re: Naca Ducts (Mark Langford) 9. Re: vert. card compass (Timothy Bellville) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:28:02 EDT From: SALTMINES@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>RE: KR1004k Message-ID: <11e.223479df.2c0be602@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Hey Bear, Couldn't find your item at Barnstormers...can't really tell if it is what you think it is. More info, please? Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:31:01 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Re:circut breakers Message-ID: <20030601.203102.-267563.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Guys, Does anyone know if it matters which terminal you attach the power to on the W58 series breakers? Near as I can tell there is not any positive or negative marks on any that I have. Right now I have wired with feed to the bottom terinals and form the top terminals wired to either the units or a switch. I also ran into a little trouble trying to figure out the low fuel warning switch that I installed in the header tank. The switch has only 2 black wires out of it. The only clue in the instruction sheet ( if you can call it instructions) is one side up is a normally open circut and installled other side up it is a normally closed circut. I figured that it was simply a interupted ground that the switch completed the circut. I tested it every way I could think of with a battery charger and couldn't get the light to come on. The light does work when it's hooked to the charger. Any ideas or maybe I have a bad switch. BTW hopefully tomorrow night the 3100cc corvair comes to life. The fuel is inthe tank and battery onthe charger. Thanks for any help-- Joe Horton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:37:56 -0500 From: "Jim Faughn" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>KR1 - first time builder? Message-ID: <002101c3289f$368fa300$2b476ad8@jfaughn> In-Reply-To: <014a01c32869$f1ff3fa0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Mark is correct. I have biased my aircraft to the front end of the CG envelope and I love the way it fly's. I haven't found anyone yet from 8 years old to 62 that can't fly it. The other part of the idea of a first time builder is - are you sure you will build another aircraft? I never will! Unless you love to build and this is your only hobby, then you should probably build the aircraft that you think you would like to have for a lifetime. You can build a fast enough and fun KR that can be controlled without too much transition. Jim N891JF Jim Faughn 4323D Laclede Ave. St. Louis, MO 63108 (314)652-7659 Mailto:jfaughn@mvp.net Web Site http://jfaughn.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:17 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder? I know I've made comments about pitch sensitivity before, but I've tempered my attitude ever since I flew Jim Faughn's KR. There are sensitive ones and then there are "light" ones. I could see how you could crawl into Jim's or Troy's and fly it for the first time with no problem at all, and learn to love it in short order. I've flown others that made me think I was going to rip the wings off, and others somewhere in the middle. I suspect CG had a lot to do with this, and I think Jim would tell you that his CG is biased toward the forward end. As long as the CG kept forward, rather than aft, I don't have a problem with KR pitch control. It's a small, short-coupled plane, so yes, if you lean forward the pitch is going to change, but's that's just the way it is. But like I said, I've only flown a few, a little at a time, so I'm no expert. I don't guess it will be long before a bunch of us wannabees will be real-live KR pilots, and we'll tell you how it is with the new generation of KRs. Other comments are more than welcome... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:53:13 -0400 From: "Leigh Plymale" To: Subject: KR>test Message-ID: <003b01c328a1$58c11380$fbfcaa44@chvlva.adelphia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 4 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:49:08 -0500 From: "Edwin Blocher" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder? Message-ID: <007d01c328a0$c757bc00$0201a8c0@computer> References: <002101c3289f$368fa300$2b476ad8@jfaughn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Jim, If you would like to make that 8 to 68 I would like to see how it flys. I have not flown with you but have seen Mark L get out of your KR with a grin 3 feet wide. See you at the gathering. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Faughn" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: RE: KR>KR1 - first time builder? > Mark is correct. I have biased my aircraft to the front end of the CG > envelope and I love the way it fly's. I haven't found anyone yet from 8 > years old to 62 that can't fly it. The other part of the idea of a first > time builder is - are you sure you will build another aircraft? I never > will! Unless you love to build and this is your only hobby, then you > should probably build the aircraft that you think you would like to have > for a lifetime. > > You can build a fast enough and fun KR that can be controlled without > too much transition. > > Jim N891JF > > Jim Faughn > 4323D Laclede Ave. > St. Louis, MO 63108 > (314)652-7659 > Mailto:jfaughn@mvp.net > Web Site http://jfaughn.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On > Behalf Of Mark Langford > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:17 PM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder? > > > I know I've made comments about pitch sensitivity before, but I've > tempered my attitude ever since I flew Jim Faughn's KR. There are > sensitive ones and then there are "light" ones. I could see how you > could crawl into Jim's or Troy's and fly it for the first time with no > problem at all, and learn to love it in short order. I've flown others > that made me think I was going to rip the wings off, and others > somewhere in the middle. I suspect CG had a lot to do with this, and I > think Jim would tell you that his CG is biased toward the forward end. > As long as the CG kept forward, rather than aft, I don't have a problem > with KR pitch control. It's a small, short-coupled plane, so yes, if > you lean forward the pitch is going to change, but's that's just the way > it is. > > But like I said, I've only flown a few, a little at a time, so I'm no > expert. I don't guess it will be long before a bunch of us wannabees > will be real-live KR pilots, and we'll tell you how it is with the new > generation of KRs. Other comments are more than welcome... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:12:28 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder? Message-ID: <001901c328a4$09555240$1202a8c0@basement> References: <002101c3289f$368fa300$2b476ad8@jfaughn> <007d01c328a0$c757bc00$0201a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Ed wrote: > If you would like to make that 8 to 68 I would like to see how it flys. I > have not flown with you but have seen Mark L get out of your KR with a grin > 3 feet wide. See you at the gathering. Hey, if I didn't already know that Jim was going to be carrying a guitar on the right seat, I'd have already volunteered for the trip from St. Louis to Red Oak, since I feel sure Larry's going to be flying his by then. GO Larry! Sorry about sending that message twice earlier today. I waited for over an hour before I sent it again, and five minutes later the first one arrived. Go figure... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:16:12 -0500 From: "Jim Faughn" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>KR1 - first time builder? Message-ID: <000301c328a4$8ec923c0$9e476ad8@jfaughn> In-Reply-To: <007d01c328a0$c757bc00$0201a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 I would love to give you a ride! Remind me at Red Oak or better yet, come to St. Louis. Jim -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+jfaughn=mvp.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+jfaughn=mvp.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Edwin Blocher Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:49 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder? Jim, If you would like to make that 8 to 68 I would like to see how it flys. I have not flown with you but have seen Mark L get out of your KR with a grin 3 feet wide. See you at the gathering. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Faughn" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: RE: KR>KR1 - first time builder? > Mark is correct. I have biased my aircraft to the front end of the CG > envelope and I love the way it fly's. I haven't found anyone yet from > 8 years old to 62 that can't fly it. The other part of the idea of a > first time builder is - are you sure you will build another aircraft? > I never will! Unless you love to build and this is your only hobby, > then you should probably build the aircraft that you think you would > like to have for a lifetime. > > You can build a fast enough and fun KR that can be controlled without > too much transition. > > Jim N891JF > > Jim Faughn > 4323D Laclede Ave. > St. Louis, MO 63108 > (314)652-7659 > Mailto:jfaughn@mvp.net > Web Site http://jfaughn.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On > Behalf Of Mark Langford > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:17 PM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: Re: KR>KR1 - first time builder? > > > I know I've made comments about pitch sensitivity before, but I've > tempered my attitude ever since I flew Jim Faughn's KR. There are > sensitive ones and then there are "light" ones. I could see how you > could crawl into Jim's or Troy's and fly it for the first time with no > problem at all, and learn to love it in short order. I've flown > others that made me think I was going to rip the wings off, and others > somewhere in the middle. I suspect CG had a lot to do with this, and > I think Jim would tell you that his CG is biased toward the forward > end. As long as the CG kept forward, rather than aft, I don't have a > problem with KR pitch control. It's a small, short-coupled plane, so > yes, if you lean forward the pitch is going to change, but's that's > just the way it is. > > But like I said, I've only flown a few, a little at a time, so I'm no > expert. I don't guess it will be long before a bunch of us wannabees > will be real-live KR pilots, and we'll tell you how it is with the new > generation of KRs. Other comments are more than welcome... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:12:21 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Naca Ducts Message-ID: <001801c328b4$ca41cc80$2402a8c0@800Athlon> References: <000c01c3285b$0827b1e0$53dc1818@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Justin wrote: > I looked through your website Mark, but I find nothing on how you made your >Naca Ducts. Sorry for the oversight. I wondered why it looked like I hadn't done anything over Christmas. The gory details are at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/nacaducts/ . I guess I'm slipping! And there's a photo of what I worked on today at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/03060120.jpg , finalizing my dual stick setup, along with an RV flap motor to drive the flap torque tube. More on that a little later. I've come to the realization that I need to completely finish the electrical system, so I can sit in it and make things work, and start the engine, and then it'll only be little stuff. Viewing this creature as a whole airplane rather than a bunch of unrelated subsystems has got me pretty fired up here lately.... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:53:43 -0400 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>vert. card compass Message-ID: <005d01c32906$001da030$b15f570c@donnas> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 HI Ed, I too was a Sonerai driver that was lurking on the KRnet to glean more information on different installations of the VW, and the more I read ,the more I fell in love with the KR2. I purchased a set of plans to study, and as luck would have it, a friend sold me his pride an joy for a song. The wife only has enough tolerance for one mistress in my life so the sonerai had to go. They are good little ships, and I am in no way say that they are better or worse then a KR2,just that it had one less seat. I will always love that little bird, and if you need any help with yours ,just ask, I'd be glad to help anyway I could. Tim Bellville KR2 N7038V Toledo, Ohio----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: KR>vert. card compass > Tim, > I'm building a Sonerai (project collecting dust) and joined the KR list some > time back to gether information on the VW conversion, nice bunch of folks, so > I stayed. > I can be found most days at the home field, Larsen Airpark (43G). > Ed Larsen > Ypsi, MI > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 54, Issue 1 ************************************