From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 70, Issue 1 Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:05 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. wing stub problems. (Harold Woods) 2. Re: kr2 for sale (Brian Kraut) 3. Diehl gear 4. Re: airscopes (Mark Langford) 5. Re: LED (Mark Jones) 6. Re: LED (Mark Langford) 7. Re: LED (Mark Jones) 8. Re: Diehl gear (William Clapp) 9. Performance (John and Janet Martindale) 10. new KR builder (Edwin Blocher) 11. Edwin sale of plane (William Clapp) 12. Carbon Fiber (Justin) 13. Re: Diehl gear (Timothy Bellville) 14. Re: Catalogs (Dan Heath) 15. Cheap tools (Robert Stone) 16. For Bob Cringley (gleone) 17. Don't download WAF from Bob Cringley-VIRUS (Dana Overall) 18. Re: Don't download WAF from Bob Cringley-VIRUS (gleone) 19. Re: Performance 20. viruses (Mark Langford) 21. Re: viruses (Dana Overall) 22. Re: new KR builder ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:17:00 -0700 From: "Harold Woods" To: Subject: KR>wing stub problems. Message-ID: <005e01c33526$8e1eabf0$08ee6418@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Why walk on your wing stubs like they were covered in raw eggs? Cover = them witha piece of carpet and then cover the carpet with strips of wood = about 2 inches wide which run the 2 feet from the root to the tip of the = stub (spanwise strips). They easily take the shape of the wing and you = can easily take them off or put them on again. Mine are made from 3/4 inch scrap wood. Harold Woods Orillia,ON,Can haroldwoods@rogers.comFrom mierz@wcoil.com Tue Jun 17 13:47:45 2003 Received: from smtp-01.wcoil.com ([65.17.128.6]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19SNMn-000Lwi-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:47:45 -0700 Received: (qmail 29935 invoked by uid 104); 17 Jun 2003 20:46:06 -0000 Received: from mierz@wcoil.com by smtp-01.wcoil.com by uid 101 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4271. Clear:. Processed in 0.867065 secs); 17 Jun 2003 20:46:06 -0000 Received: from pm29-7.lima.da.wcoil.com (HELO default) (65.17.138.167) by smtp-01.wcoil.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 20:46:05 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030617165231.00809bd0@pop3.wcoil.com> X-Sender: mierz@pop3.wcoil.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:52:31 -0700 To: krnet@mylist.net From: kevin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: KR>kr2 for sale X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Hello , Many people have wrote and i cannot respond to all with pictures due to a slow modem. I am asking $16,500.00 for the plane with current condition inspection . The plane is n numbered . You can view pictures at http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kev517 If you are seriously interested email me direct at mierz@wcoil.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:32:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Kraut To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>kr2 for sale Message-ID: <1639624.1055885126287.JavaMail.nobody@kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Nice paint and interior. What kind of engine do you have? I have never seen a KR do a wheelie off the line before! -------Original Message------- From: kevin Sent: 06/17/03 07:52 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>kr2 for sale > > Hello , Many people have wrote and i cannot respond to all with pictures due to a slow modem. I am asking $16,500.00 for the plane with current condition inspection . The plane is n numbered . You can view pictures at http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kev517 If you are seriously interested email me direct at mierz@wcoil.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:14:14 -0400 From: To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Diehl gear Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Question. I looked in the archieve list and could not find a certian posting about someone who made their own gear bracket like a Diehl. Since I'm cheap, could this safely work? and could I talk with them? Decided to go with the tail dragger for weight reduction. Steven Phillabaum Auburn Alabama ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:15:32 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>airscopes Message-ID: <006501c3351d$f86be490$1202a8c0@basement> References: <1d3.b60ca69.2c14a397@aol.com><006c01c33451$8c949950$1202a8c0@basement> <007001c33459$d14fafa0$2321fea9@audiovideo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Russ Houck wrote: > Do the NASA scopes work around the cowling to move cooling air as well as on > the bottom like Mark Langford's? Do these reduce air speed? Is there a > specific size that is better than another? I don't know. I'd been planning on using a NACA duct myself, but then I started wondering did I want to speed the flow or slow the flow (which would determine how it was installed), and then I started noticing that NACA ducts for carb inlets are pretty rare. Even Nemesis used a snorkel, as do most Lancairs, RV's, etc, so I decided that'd be good enough for me. Any wisdom on this matter would certainly be appreciated. Another part of my problem is that I have this reversed NACA duct right behind the cowling on the bottom of the fuselage, so if I have one sucking the air in, what's left to help the cooling air exit? Later I may just cut this thing off and try the NACA duct, just to see if it makes a difference, but for rignt now, I'm going to take the wimpy way out and graft this thing on and call it done! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:20:22 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>LED Message-ID: <001701c3351e$a4fc6040$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030617110148.0241b840@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Yes, the ones I bought fit a regular base. I bought the 1157 and will jump both pins together so I get max illumination from the brake side of the bulb. You can get replacement sockets for $3 at a parts store. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry severson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: KR>LED > > >There has been a lot of talk in the past about using LED lights on the > >wing tips as an inexpensive alternate. > > The questions are: > 1. will they fit the standard bases and enclosures?, or > 2. do they come with bases? > > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:20:59 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>LED Message-ID: <001501c3351e$bb329050$1202a8c0@basement> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030617110148.0241b840@pop-server.socal.rr.com> <001701c3351e$a4fc6040$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Mark Jones wrote: > Yes, the ones I bought fit a regular base. I bought the 1157 and will jump > both pins together so I get max illumination from the brake side of the > bulb. So what's the angle of illumination on these things? If you aim it at the wall from three feet away, does it make a discernable bright "spot", or is the illumination fairly constant? Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:30:59 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>LED Message-ID: <003401c33520$67fd8780$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030617110148.0241b840@pop-server.socal.rr.com><001701c3351e$a4fc6040$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> <001501c3351e$bb329050$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 I can only do that test on the standard 1157 LED. I have not ordered the new style angled LED but plan on doing so soon and using the ones I nave on my boat trailer. Will let everyone know when I get them. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: KR>LED > Mark Jones wrote: > > > Yes, the ones I bought fit a regular base. I bought the 1157 and will jump > > both pins together so I get max illumination from the brake side of the > > bulb. > > So what's the angle of illumination on these things? If you aim it at the > wall from three feet away, does it make a discernable bright "spot", or is > the illumination fairly constant? > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:42:35 -0400 From: "William Clapp" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Diehl gear Message-ID: <000001c33526$caa8df00$17fcd241@clapp> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Since I had fiberglass legs arready but did not have brackets, I went ahead and made mine out of 1/4" steel. I followed the basic design of Deihl. After welding them I put a couple lightening holes in them. I believe they weigh a little less than a pound each finished. They are strong. The aluminum ones may weigh close to the same since they are thicker. They have NOT been flight tested yet but seem a little overbuilt for the plane. Just what I want. I can sent you photos if you want. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: KR>Diehl gear > Question. > I looked in the archieve list and could not find a certian > posting about someone who made their own gear bracket like > a Diehl. Since I'm cheap, could this safely work? and > could I talk with them? Decided to go with the tail > dragger for weight reduction. > > Steven Phillabaum > Auburn Alabama > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:52:12 +1000 From: "John and Janet Martindale" To: "KRnet" , "CorvAircraft" Subject: KR>Performance Message-ID: <003301c3352b$9caaa200$f56ecacb@amipentium200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9 Folks Several people have asked what performance I am getting with the 2700cc = Corvair in my KR2. With the 3 blade 56" dia Warp Drive set at 23 degrees pitch I see about = 150 knots (173mph) at 3000rpm in level cruise and gross weight = (1200lbs). However the engine won't wind up to the rpm band I would prefer = (3800-4000rpm). SOS at 56" dia is about 4600rpm which coincides with = about the max performance that can be got out of the OT10 cam. I'll be trying with a finer pitch shortly. Also yet to put on 5.00x5 = spats (big drag at present). Hoping to tweak up to at least 160 knots = (RR redline is 173 knots - 200mph). Does anyone know if there are limits on Warp Drive rpm other than tip = speed, eg., on centripetal force at the hub or blade collars?? John and Janet Martindale 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA ph: 61 2 6658 4767 email: johnjane@chc.net.auFrom rahuman@ev1.net Tue Jun 17 20:22:53 2003 Received: from smtpout.ev1.net ([207.44.129.132]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19STXB-000O0W-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:22:53 -0700 Received: from desktop [216.12.206.1] by smtpout.ev1.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id ABB1C92B006A; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:25:37 -0500 Message-ID: <002901c33548$b1580900$01ce0cd8@desktop> From: "Rick Human" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <1d3.b60ca69.2c14a397@aol.com><006c01c33451$8c949950$1202a8c0@basement><007001c33459$d14fafa0$2321fea9@audiovideo> <006501c3351d$f86be490$1202a8c0@basement> Subject: Re: KR>airscopes Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:21:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I believe the "female" version of the Long eze uses a NACA duct for it's intake and cooling air intake. By "female" I mean the version with the flush intakes rather than the plans suggested "P51" intake between the main gear legs. Most of the "eze's" I seen seem to be using the flush version. Find an eze and have a look. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: KR>airscopes > Russ Houck wrote: > > > Do the NASA scopes work around the cowling to move cooling air as well as > on > > the bottom like Mark Langford's? Do these reduce air speed? Is there a > > specific size that is better than another? > > I don't know. I'd been planning on using a NACA duct myself, but then I > started wondering did I want to speed the flow or slow the flow (which would > determine how it was installed), and then I started noticing that NACA ducts > for carb inlets are pretty rare. Even Nemesis used a snorkel, as do most > Lancairs, RV's, etc, so I decided that'd be good enough for me. Any wisdom > on this matter would certainly be appreciated. Another part of my problem is > that I have this reversed NACA duct right behind the cowling on the bottom > of the fuselage, so if I have one sucking the air in, what's left to help > the cooling air exit? Later I may just cut this thing off and try the NACA > duct, just to see if it makes a difference, but for rignt now, I'm going to > take the wimpy way out and graft this thing on and call it done! > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:06:32 -0500 From: "Edwin Blocher" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>new KR builder Message-ID: <009801c3354f$01822220$0201a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 10 It is with much regret that I have to tell you that I have sold my KR2S = project. Welcome Glenda McElwee as the new owner/builder. She will be at = Oshkosh and at the Gathering. I have told her to really bug everyone = with questions. I'm still going to hang around on the net at least for a = while. Sincerely, ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:42:03 -0400 From: "William Clapp" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Edwin sale of plane Message-ID: <039401c33553$f7a2b8a0$33fcd241@clapp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 Soory to hear you sold your plane - it looked novel. I hope the new = buyer will continue your enthusiasm. Do you still plan to go to the = gathering and staying involved in Kr;s? =20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:50:30 -0500 From: "Justin" To: Subject: KR>Carbon Fiber Message-ID: <000a01c3355d$8725add0$ed7ba8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 12 I dont have a AS&S book or Wicks book but I know the fiberglass strength = is in there. Can someone give me the strengths of KR fiberglass, The = carbon fiber glass and the Kevlar. Comparing weight to strength.=20 Has anyone used Kevlar, it is a tad cheaper than carbon fiber and = said to be stronger and lighter than carbon fiber. for the 5OZ it has a = tesile strength of 620X655. Can someoen explain that to me? I want to = know the difference of that and normal 5.85 KR cloth. Justin KR2S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 04:51:43 -0400 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Diehl gear Message-ID: <002001c33576$d884c9e0$205f570c@donnas> References: <000001c33526$caa8df00$17fcd241@clapp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 I Too would like a photo,if it's not to much trouble? Thanks Tim Bellville KR2 N7038V ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Clapp" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: KR>Diehl gear > Since I had fiberglass legs arready but did not have brackets, I went ahead > and made mine out of 1/4" steel. I followed the basic design of Deihl. > After welding them I put a couple lightening holes in them. I believe they > weigh a little less than a pound each finished. They are strong. The > aluminum ones may weigh close to the same since they are thicker. They have > NOT been flight tested yet but seem a little overbuilt for the plane. Just > what I want. I can sent you photos if you want. Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:14 PM > Subject: KR>Diehl gear > > > > Question. > > I looked in the archieve list and could not find a certian > > posting about someone who made their own gear bracket like > > a Diehl. Since I'm cheap, could this safely work? and > > could I talk with them? Decided to go with the tail > > dragger for weight reduction. > > > > Steven Phillabaum > > Auburn Alabama > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:19:15 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: KR>Re: Catalogs Message-ID: <3EF03CA3.000001.03004@Computer> References: <000a01c3355d$8725add0$ed7ba8c0@computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 Justin,=0D =0D Go to www.wicksaircraft.com and order a book. It is free. Then.....=0D Go to www.aircraftspruce.com and order a book. It is free.=0D =0D You cannot build a plane without these books. You will be surprised at a= ll the good information that is in these books. They are more than catalogs= =2E=0D =0D Why should you expect that one of us should take the time to go to the bo= ok and pull the information from it, enter it into an e-mail, and send it to you, when all you have to do is order the book.=0D =0D Do you have Tony's books yet? If not, please get them. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From rstone4@hot.rr.com Wed Jun 18 05:04:11 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com ([24.93.36.231]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19Sbff-000PrS-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:04:11 -0700 Received: from pavilion (cs2424233-186.hot.rr.com [24.242.33.186]) by ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h5IC2Y0p008130 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:02:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c33591$4e66dd00$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> From: "Robert Stone" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <009801c3354f$01822220$0201a8c0@computer> Subject: Re: KR>new KR builder Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:01:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Ed, Will she be the only female builder in the circut or are there more? Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin Blocher" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:06 PM Subject: KR>new KR builder It is with much regret that I have to tell you that I have sold my KR2S project. Welcome Glenda McElwee as the new owner/builder. She will be at Oshkosh and at the Gathering. I have told her to really bug everyone with questions. I'm still going to hang around on the net at least for a while. Sincerely, ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:09:41 -0500 From: "Robert Stone" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Cheap tools Message-ID: <001601c33592$7f6c30c0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 15 Builders, I have never seen one of these so cheap and thought some of you = might be interested. =20 DOT & LINE LASER LEVEL Now $9.99 Reg. $13.99 Perform horizontal and vertical leveling. Includes beam splitter = attachment. Constructed from extruded and machined aluminum for maximum = precision. ITEM 54050-2VGA =20 This item is available at Harbor Freight Tools. Use a search = engine to get their URL. =20 Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.comFrom asavant@notes.state.ne.us Wed Jun 18 05:45:44 2003 Received: from imssmtp02.ims.state.ne.us ([164.119.241.2]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19ScJs-0000Do-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:45:44 -0700 Received: from IMSMAIL01.IMS.STATE.NE.US ([164.119.10.112]) by imssmtp02.ims.state.ne.us (Lotus Domino Release 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 2003061807485045-256 ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:48:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <000a01c3355d$8725add0$ed7ba8c0@computer> Subject: Re: KR>Carbon Fiber To: KR builders and pilots X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.1 February 07, 2003 Message-ID: From: asavant@notes.state.ne.us Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:42:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on IMSMAIL01.IMS.STATE.NE.US/NEBRLN(Release 6.0.1CF1 | March06, 2003) at 06/18/2003 07:42:24 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on IMSSMTP02.IMS.STATE.NE.US/NEBRLN(Release 6.0.1|February07, 2003) at 06/18/2003 07:48:50 AM, Serialize by Router on IMSSMTP02.IMS.STATE.NE.US/NEBRLN(Release 6.0.1|February07, 2003) at 06/18/2003 07:49:00 AM, Serialize complete at 06/18/2003 07:49:00 AM Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Justin Wrote: >Has anyone used Kevlar, it is a tad cheaper than carbon fiber and said to be stronger and lighter than carbon >fiber. Kevlar is not as strong when loaded in compression. It is mostly used for impact resistance rather than structural applications. Replacing fibreglass or carbon fiber with Kevlar is not a trivial excercise and requires appropriate design considerations, especially in heavily loaded applications. Hope that helps. Ameet Savant asavant@notes.state.ne.us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:03:25 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" To: Subject: KR>For Bob Cringley Message-ID: <3EF0631D.000005.02748@DDMWDD11> Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_PLHO6RO0000000000000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 16 --------------Boundary-00=_PLHO6RO0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob,=0D =0D My ISP intercepted the following message from you this morning. You have= a virus on your computer and you might want to check on it. Here's the message I got from my ISP:=0D =0D Received: from source ([207.217.120.181]) by exprod5mx35.postini.com ([12 158.34.245]) with SMTP;=0D =09Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:18:22 PDT=0D Received: from 216-40-163-189.flint.tir.com ([216.40.163.189] helo=3Dcompany-8qcoo8w)=0D =09by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1)=0D =09id 19SZy9-0004Ep-00; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:15:10 -0700=0D From: "Robert X. Cringely" =0D Subject: Re: KR> RE:WAF'S AGAIN?=0D MIME-Version: 1.0=0D Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"----------TCWUN957ZHXSNL"=0D Message-Id: =0D Bcc:=0D Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:15:10 -0700=0D X-pstnvirus: W32/Bugbear.b@MM=0D Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:15:10 -0700 =0D From: "Robert X. Cringely" =0D To: =0D Subject: Re: KR> RE:WAF'S AGAIN? =0D =0D =0D There WAS a spar failure of the GB-2, a rip-off KR-2 clone, at the =0D first KR Gathering in Pope Valley , CA around 1980. I'm not sure =0D this failure actually proves anything, but since I was there at the =0D time the story probably bears repeating.=0D =0D The GB-2 was a KR-2 with entirely pre-=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D Attachments:=0D application/x-msdownload; name=3D"- Getting Started Tips -.DOC.scr"=20 --------------Boundary-00=_PLHO6RO0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:15:24 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Don't download WAF from Bob Cringley-VIRUS Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 17 I just wanted to change gleones subject line to catch someone's attention. My McAfee also found the W32/Bugbear.b@mm virus. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:23:55 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" To: Subject: Re: KR>Don't download WAF from Bob Cringley-VIRUS Message-ID: <3EF067EB.000010.02748@DDMWDD11> References: Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_VJION0X1VA4000000000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18 --------------Boundary-00=_VJION0X1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to contact Bob directly but was unable to deliver the message so= I put it on the 'net. That's the problem with some of these viruses. I li= ke you subject line better. Thanks,=0D =0D Gene=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:16:46 AM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: KR>Don't download WAF from Bob Cringley-VIRUS=0D =0D I just wanted to change gleones subject line to catch someone's attention= =2E=0D My McAfee also found the W32/Bugbear.b@mm virus.=0D =0D =0D =0D Dana Overall=0D 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host=0D Richmond, KY=0D RV-7 slider/fuselage=0D http://rvflying.tripod.com=0D do not archive=0D =0D _________________________________________________________________=0D The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*=0D http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_VJION0X1VA4000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:36:18 EDT From: JSMONDAY@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Performance Message-ID: <11.139d123b.2c21c4d2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 19 John - I am thinking about building a KR-2 and the gross weight listed is 900 lbs... you mentioned 1200 lbs. One of my concerns was the low gross weight listed. What did you do to get the gross weight up to 1200 lbs? Thanks, John S. Monday jsmonday@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:22:40 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , Subject: KR>viruses Message-ID: <007a01c335a5$143e9eb0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: <20030609041843.9203.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> <001a01c3359e$506afe80$3d672fd1@gary> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 20 We've had another round of virus discussions. I'd like to help clear up a few things. I got one this morning that APPEARED to come from KRnet, but in reality it came directly from a guy on KRnet who had my name in his address book because he'd replied to one of my messages at some point. Most of the viruses these days will "spoof" the return address using an address randomly chosen from the victim's address book, so you have no idea who it actually came from. Berating people for sending a virus to the list is a waste of time, as is contacting the guy that you THINK sent you the virus, because the return address on these things is rarely genuine. The list refuses almost all attachments, and just in case some new variety comes along, it had better be under 20K to make it through the size filter. Most viruses are bigger than that. And I'll say it again, you're a complete idiot if you don't have some sort of anti-virus protection these days, AND keep it current! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:06:46 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>viruses Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 21 Mark is right, after looking at the email, it looked like it came from the KRNet but it simply had Robert's email address. It could have come from anywhere. Just for informational purposes, the file was 98K. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "Mark Langford" >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , > >Subject: KR>viruses >Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:22:40 -0500 > >We've had another round of virus discussions. I'd like to help clear up a >few things. I got one this morning that APPEARED to come from KRnet, but >in >reality it came directly from a guy on KRnet who had my name in his address >book because he'd replied to one of my messages at some point. Most of the >viruses these days will "spoof" the return address using an address >randomly >chosen from the victim's address book, so you have no idea who it actually >came from. Berating people for sending a virus to the list is a waste of >time, as is contacting the guy that you THINK sent you the virus, because >the return address on these things is rarely genuine. > >The list refuses almost all attachments, and just in case some new variety >comes along, it had better be under 20K to make it through the size filter. >Most viruses are bigger than that. And I'll say it again, you're a >complete >idiot if you don't have some sort of anti-virus protection these days, AND >keep it current! > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >N56ML at hiwaay.net >see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:37:19 EDT From: Timboyer2@wmconnect.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>new KR builder Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 22 Greetings Bob There is another female builder she located in PA Currently she finishing up on the outer wings. Her work looks great Tim ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 70, Issue 1 ************************************