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Today's Topics: 1. 2 strokes and marine engines (Colin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:44:35 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>2 strokes and marine engines Message-ID: <004c01c34253$ef0707c0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 I agree with the discussion so far on some of the limitations of the 2 = strokes. Loehle kitplanes uses the 582 Rotax in alot of their replica = aircraft, as their standard powerplant. I agree with Dan that marine = engines have alot of tweaking for use in aircraft, cooling, PSRU = reductions, motor mounts, etc... Also, as Mark said, for the weight vs. = output, the corvair is going to be hard to beat. Remember, it is not all = about just advertised bhp, it is about torque to the prop. That is when = the work is actually being done. I don't know exact numbers, but if the = corvair engine is outputting 40-50 more bhp than the average VW, it is = probably delivering something like 70-100 more foot pounds of torque, = both due to shear output, and the six cylinder configuration. With = modern auto engine technology what it is today, marine engines are much = more difficult to adapt, compared to adding a PSRU, a couple of = radiators like the Rotax uses, and fit the cowling. I know this is an = oversimplification, but unless you are going to use one of the updated = Mattituck, or similar aircraft engines, you are paying a LOT of money = for 1950s technology. You can convert 10 corvairs for the price of 1 new = Lycoming. Just my opinion... Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From crainey1@cfl.rr.com Fri Jul 04 10:46:45 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.1.39]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19YUdw-000Kr0-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 10:46:44 -0700 Received: from Beverly (5.70.33.65.cfl.rr.com [65.33.70.5]) by ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h64Hjpnt027335 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005501c34254$1c810750$05462141@Beverly> From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:45:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Checklists X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Thought everyone might get something out of this: Dear Richard, I commend you on your need to have checklists. I also will have = checklists as part of the necessary equipment to go fly. Your thoughts = mirror mine concerning using the Cessna checklists as a template and = adapting them to the KR2. I am a flight instructor, and have taught at = two different schools that advertise professional pilot training. They = each took the standard checklists and changed them to suit their = training needs. Thus I saw a perfect method of having KR2 checklists, by = adapting the Cessna 152 checklists to the specifics of the KR2. I also = intend on developing my operating manual by using a Cessna 152 = information manual, and changing it to match the KR2. I have not read = your checklists yet, but wanted to send this to you promptly to = encourage you to continue, and suggest the use of the POH as a guide for = your own operating manual as well. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From kr2cooper@msn.com Fri Jul 04 11:31:19 2003 Received: from bay5-dav86.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.173.116] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19YVL5-000L8a-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 11:31:19 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 11:30:27 -0700 Received: from 67.201.192.198 by bay5-dav86.bay5.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 18:30:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.201.192.198] X-Originating-Email: [kr2cooper@msn.com] From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <3F056B0A.000014.02888@Computer> Subject: Re: KR>Fw: KR 1 or 2 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:20:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 8.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V8.50.0017.1202 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:20:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2003 18:30:27.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[573E0CC0:01C3425A] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Dan is right about Steve Benett's KR but the one I'm thinking of was a = Florida based KR. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Heath=20 To: krnet@mylist.net=20 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: Re: KR>Fw: KR 1 or 2 RE: I remember seeing a picture of that KR somewhere but am unable to = find it now. I don't remember who it belonged to but I believe they called = it a KR-1 1/2. Come to the gathering if you are interested in the KR 1 1/2. Red Oak = is right in Steve's country and I'll bet it will be there as that is = Steve Benetts KR 1.5 Speaking of Red Oak, Jerry, Bob Lee and I will be arriving on Thursday = via Big Jet, and are staying at the Red Coach, if anyone wants to stay up = late and tell fish stories.=20 =20 N64KR =20 Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC =20 DanRH@KR-Builder.org =20 See you in Red Oak - 2003 =20 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 86, Issue 2 ************************************