From: krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 154, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Pitot/static parts scrounge (Dan Heath) 2. Re: Notams (Dana Overall) 3. Re: change of operating limitations-now IFR (Dana Overall) 4. elevator balancing of kr2S (Ross Evans) 5. Re: Transponder 6. Re: elevator balancing of kr2S (Mark Langford) 7. Re: License (larry severson) 8. Re: Transponder (Dana Overall) 9. Re: Complex 10. Re: Transponder 11. Re: rudder travel stops (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 12. Re: Transponder 13. Detroit Area, Ride in a KR2 (Lex R Baer) 14. Re: Mertic system (Robert Sather) 15. Re: assembly plant (Scott Cable) 16. RE: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] (Aggie lewanda) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:50:14 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>Pitot/static parts scrounge Message-ID: <3F5EF3D6.000019.02996@Computer> References: <006001c37658$04cf4d00$7e7e0c44@blah> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Matt,=0D =0D What is DRMO? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Monday, September 08, 2003 6:25:30 PM=0D To: KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: Re: KR>Pitot/static parts scrounge=0D =0D Have you tried DRMO? You can get great stuff for cheap, sometimes.=0D =0D Mark Youkey=0D myoukey@cox.net=0D Oklahoma City=0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" =0D To: "KRnet" =0D Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:45 AM=0D Subject: KR>Pitot/static parts scrounge=0D =0D =0D > Netters,=0D >=0D > Does anyone know where I can locate a used AN5814-12? It's a 12VDC >heat= ed=0D > pitot/static probe. Looking at Aircraft Spruce has given me sticker=0D shock,=0D > they want $495 for a new one. That's double what they were a couple >of=0D years ago!=0D =0D > Regards,=0D >=0D > Bob Lee=0D > ______________________________=0D > 3380 Ashton Drive=0D > Suwanee, GA 30024=0D > Cell: (404) 538-1427=0D > Phone: (770) 844-7511=0D > Fax: (770) 844-7501=0D > mailto:bob@flyboybob.com=0D > http://flyboybob.com=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D > _______________________________________________=0D > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom fa.mcgregor@qut.edu.au Wed Sep 10 03:08:28 2003 Received: from mail-router02.qut.edu.au ([131.181.254.10]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19x1tj-0002v2-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:08:27 -0700 Received: from frasermc.qut.edu.au (modemd10-37.net.qut.edu.au [131.181.144.107]) by mail-router02.qut.edu.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id ALZ06803 (AUTH mcgregfa); Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:10:24 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030910200856.00b84388@pop.qut.edu.au> X-Sender: mcgregfa@pop.qut.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:11:34 +1000 To: serge.vidal@ate-international.com, KR builders and pilots From: Fraser McGregor Subject: RE: KR>Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] In-Reply-To: <000701c37779$7608eb30$2c0101c0@ate.com> References: <003a01c37745$344ee3e0$6401a8c0@Administration> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to think in 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) Now back to planes------ At 09:50 AM 10/09/03 +0100, you wrote: >I will challenge that. The beauty of the Metric system is that all >units (length, mass, volume, etc.) are related in a decimal way. For >example, one cubic meter is just 1000 liters. Try to do the same when >dealing with pounds and inches! > >Serge Vidal >KR2 ZS-WEC >Tunis, Tunisia > > >-----Original Message----- >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On >Behalf Of Ron Eason >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:43 AM >To: kr2cooper@earthlink.net; KR builders and pilots >Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] > > >One system is no better than the other, it's just a system of >measurements. I work with both all the time. I would give the edge to >English because it gets you thinking in different base numerical >systems. Nature and the Universe is not based on the 10's system. I >stimulates a better understanding of math. > > KRRon > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jack Cooper" >To: "KR builders and pilots" >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system > > > > I think it was a big mistake not to go to metrics. The world is on > > one standard and we in the USA on another. Metrics is so easy to > > learn if we would just do it. Just try to work on an American car > > and see how many fasteners are American and how many are metric. You > > never know which >wrench > > to pick up. > > > > Robert J. (Jack) Cooper > > kr2cooper@earthlink.net http://www.jackandsandycoooper.com/kr2 > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Mark Langford > > > To: KR builders and pilots > > > Date: 9/7/03 6:34:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR2 > > > > > > Fraser wrote: > > > > > > > I just wish all you guys would give your measurements in real terms, >ie > > > > millimeters, kg, Newtons, etc, instead of these ancient english >imperial > > > > things. Pity you didn' t throw the imperial system overboard with the > > tea > > > > in Boston, all those years ago! Makes my head ache, having to do the > > > > conversions. > > > > > > I agree wholeheartedly! We almost got smart and made the big move to > > metric > > > in the seventies, but somehow the effort got side tracked, and we're >mired > > > in the dark ages again. There's nothing worse than a slug! I'm 100% >for > > > the move to metric. I lived in Germany for three years and loved it >(and > > > for many other reasons)... > > > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Fraser and Val McGregor 63 Preston Road MANLY QLD 4179 AUSTRALIA +61 7 3893 2717 Mo 0403 075 316 ----------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:00:25 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Notams Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 >From: "Mark Youkey" >So, here are a few things that could get you looked at in a funny way: >-Squawking 1200 (especially when you aren't talking to center) >Precautions you should take, if you don't read the notams: >-Monitor 121.5 or 243.0 (as if there are any UHF radios on any KR's) >-Squawk > Center considers the 1200 code to be just what it is designed to do, notify controllers that you are a VFR aircraft. Anything above 10K and you are required to have a transponder squawking 1200 unless you are on either flight following or and IFR flight plan. A VFR flight plan does not require talking with anyone or use of a transponder code. As you leave controlled airspace, one told to "squawking 1200 and have a good day". I just have no idea why someone would be "looked at" for practicing a universally accepted aviation safety method. Mark, why would that be? Moniter guard? It is something that was non present pre 9/11. However, most of the aircraft owners you are talking to on this forum will only have one radio. Better to listen to unicom, center, approach or "guard". I know who I would be listening to and it wouldn't be guard. Mark, I am truly interested in why squawking 1200 and not talking will get you looked at? Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:25:45 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>change of operating limitations-now IFR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 >From: AviationMech@aol.com > > > can you sign it off for IFR also??? > >You can only sign off the items authorized by your authority(license). To >equip a plane for IFR means to install specific equipment and have >completed >specific certifications on the radio's, pitot static, and other systems. >Some of >which require different types of authority. This thread comes up all the time on the RVlist. While the above is true in text, let me expound a little on the issue. If you are the builder, and hold the repairmans certificate, you can install approved and current IFR instrumentation appropriate for ground facilities to be used. If you don't hold the certificate, you gotta go with ticket holders. You must still have the pitot/static and transponder checks by an approved facility. The actual "certification" of the operation of the installed equipment is done by you. This is achieved by taking the aircraft up and intercepting and tracking to show the unit performs as required. You then make the notation in the log. At the initial inspection, the designee will not authorize you for IFR operations as he is not the builder and installer of the equipment and has not performed the flight tests required to check the accuracy or operation of the IFR equipment. Up to this point your aircraft has not flown so flight tests would not have available to certify the operation of the unit. After performing these tests, you will be authorized to operated in IFR conditions being restricted to the ground facilities appropriate for the equipment installed. As I have stated many, many times, I fly IFR in my Bonanza. I will fly IFR in my RV. I would not fly IFR in a KR. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Compare Cable, DSL or Satellite plans: As low as $29.95. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:48:01 +1000 From: "Ross Evans" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>elevator balancing of kr2S Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 hi I have purchased a kr2S project in Australia it has the turtle deck completeted and the glass around the tail is done. Is it necessary to balance the tail and how can it be done with out cutting into an already built plane as i have a engine of 110 hp with a reduction drive and I worry that flutter could become a problem. What oppinions are there around cheers Ross _________________________________________________________________ Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:51:29 GMT From: ronlee@pcisys.net To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR> Transponder Message-ID: <200309101150.h8ABorJC027068@mail.pcisys.net> Precedence: list Message: 5 Anything above 10K and you are > required to have a transponder squawking 1200 unless you are on either > flight following or and IFR flight plan. A VFR flight plan does not require > talking with anyone or use of a transponder code. > Can you clarify this? My transponder is being serviced. To legally fly above 10K I must be using flight following or ?????? I cannot file IFR. How does one use Flight following without a transponder? The reason I ask is because 9500 feet in CO is not high enough for me to fly to Red Oak. Ron Lee --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:31:20 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>elevator balancing of kr2S Message-ID: <005101c37797$71287630$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Ross wrote: > hi I have purchased a kr2S project in Australia it has the turtle deck > completeted and the glass around the tail is done. Is it necessary to > balance the tail and how can it be done with out cutting into an already > built plane as i have a engine of 110 hp with a reduction drive and I worry > that flutter could become a problem. It's easy to add elevator counterweights after the plane is built. Just do it the "dynamic balance" way, which is add the weights to the tips of the elevator, extending forward. It would probably be prudent to beef up the surrounding skin with a layer or two of carbon fiber, and make sure you fasten them to the plywood rib and spruce structure. If you don't know what I mean by dynamic balance, see the photo of Dana's tail at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/moletail.jpg . Make them out of lead weights that are sized to balance the tail to a neutral position, with the lead at the forward most location. Small and narrow are probably best. I've seen balance tabs that are only a half inch wide. They are mostly counterbalance, with little dynamic effect. This is somcthing I plan to research with a little trial and error once I get mine in the air... Leaving for Red Oak (Larry's house) at lunchtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:09:22 -0700 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>License Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030910060726.027d7768@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <002c01c3774a$32ecf0a0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 Interesting problem: I have an ATP. I also have 8 hours in a J2 cub taildragger. My problem is that the log book that contained that information got lost in my divorce. At 11:18 PM 9/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: >One exception: the KR2 being a 2 seat aircraft, and not an ultralight, >must have a private license to operate. >Dana is correct: paragraph i(1) of the FAR 61.31 states that anyone >desiring to act as pic must have a one time training and endorsement for >acting as pic for a tailwheel airplane. No exception is given for >experimental operation. >Colin Rainey KR2(td) >crainey1@cfl.rr.com >Sanford, Florida >FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:11:46 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Transponder Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 Above 10K a operational transponder is required equipment. I have flown IFR with a transponder on the blink so flight following may be possible with altitude verifications. Try it and see, but above 10K you gotta have a transponder. What I meant by my saying 1200 or on flight following or IFR was if on either of the two, you will be assigned a code other than 1200. Look it up as there may be a provision if you are less than 3000 above the ground. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: ronlee@pcisys.net >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >To: KR builders and pilots >Subject: Re: KR> Transponder >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:51:29 GMT > > Anything above 10K and you are > > required to have a transponder squawking 1200 unless you are on either > > flight following or and IFR flight plan. A VFR flight plan does not >require > > talking with anyone or use of a transponder code. > > > >Can you clarify this? My transponder is being serviced. To legally fly >above 10K I must be using flight following or ?????? I cannot file >IFR. > >How does one use Flight following without a transponder? > >The reason I ask is because 9500 feet in CO is not high enough for me >to fly to Red Oak. > >Ron Lee > > >--------------------------------------------- >This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. >http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:25:46 EDT From: JStephenz@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Complex Message-ID: <163.25708986.2c908e6a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 I am interested in putting an in flight adjustable pitch prop in my kr2s which has a 1915 cc V.W. in it what would be the best performing prop and where can I get one? Thanks Joel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:25:32 GMT From: red-bridge@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Transponder Message-ID: <20030910.072558.8359.148980@webmail14.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 Perhaps I can add some clarification to the transponder issue from an operational "real world" perspective. That is to say, from my perspective as a 22 year ATCS at Indy Center. Yes, you are required to have an operational transponder with mode C above 10K, both IFR and VFR. If you are IFR and your transponder fails in flight, you can expect to be assigned victor airways and or compulsory reporting points and handled as a non-radar flight. This is especially true for an aircraft such as a KR which will have very little primary (non-transponder) radar return. Also bear in mind that, although the controller is still required to provide you with IFR separation, beyond the minnimum requirements, the level of service you will receive is at the descresion of the controller and may be subject to other operational concerns from an ATC perspective. If you are VFR in a KR without a transponder, don't expect much in the way of flight following, especially from center, as our primary radar is poor at best. In fact it may be non-existant in many areas, especially at low altitudes. This is why my KR will have a transponder with mode C despite the weight concerns. I hope this answers some of your questions. Keith C. Krumwiede Rosedale, IN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:18:23 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>rudder travel stops Message-ID: <20030910.102707.3688.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11 Control stops are supposed to be at the INPUT end, not the control surface end, Virg On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:14:50 EDT JStephenz@aol.com writes: > I have noticed today that the rudder has eaten away at the fiberglass > tail > section. Isn't some sort of rubber or metal rudder stop supposed to > be in place? > Now the rudder jams against the elevator surface making for a > potentially > dangerous situation. > > Joel kr2s > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:59:40 GMT From: ronlee@pcisys.net To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR> Transponder Message-ID: <200309101559.h8AFx3JC006377@mail.pcisys.net> Precedence: list Message: 12 Thanks for the info on transponders. I got good news today that my transponder has been fixed and I asked them to "next day" UPS it to me. Should install Wednesday and be able to fly at 11,500' 13,500' or 15,500' as I choose! I did a seated "happy dance" when I got the news. As much as I have avoided ATC services in the past, that is changing as I fly more. Flight following...YES. Traffic advisories above my airport....YES. Ron Lee --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:17:29 -0600 From: Lex R Baer To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Detroit Area, Ride in a KR2 Message-ID: <20030910.101916.2700.5.BAERTEDI@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 I live in Colorado and haven't been able to find anyone who has completed their KR2. Because I will be visiting the Detroit area 9/12 thru 9/18 (during and after Red Oaks) and I would appreciate anyone willing to take me for a short flight in their KR2 in the Detroit, Toledo, Ann Arbor area. Lex Baer baertedi@juno.com Hm(719) 566--3577 Detroit (248)449-7257 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:14:23 -0600 From: "Robert Sather" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system Message-ID: <003501c377be$fb8cb4e0$5602a8c0@Belkin> References: <410-2200393100756490@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 After you take one of the o's out of coooper the website opens up real easy. bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system > I think it was a big mistake not to go to metrics. The world is on one > standard and we in the USA on another. Metrics is so easy to learn if we > would just do it. Just try to work on an American car and see how many > fasteners are American and how many are metric. You never know which wrench > to pick up. > > Robert J. (Jack) Cooper > kr2cooper@earthlink.net > http://www.jackandsandycoooper.com/kr2 > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Mark Langford > > To: KR builders and pilots > > Date: 9/7/03 6:34:32 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR2 > > > > Fraser wrote: > > > > > I just wish all you guys would give your measurements in real terms, ie > > > millimeters, kg, Newtons, etc, instead of these ancient english imperial > > > things. Pity you didn' t throw the imperial system overboard with the > tea > > > in Boston, all those years ago! Makes my head ache, having to do the > > > conversions. > > > > I agree wholeheartedly! We almost got smart and made the big move to > metric > > in the seventies, but somehow the effort got side tracked, and we're mired > > in the dark ages again. There's nothing worse than a slug! I'm 100% for > > the move to metric. I lived in Germany for three years and loved it (and > > for many other reasons)... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>assembly plant Message-ID: <20030910174258.83733.qmail@web40812.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 15 Count me in the Konga Line! --- Dana Overall wrote: > RV, the general has done so little homework you > would probably spend more > time in doing so than he has done in preparation for > his post. General, we > really are not bashing for the sake of bashing it is > just so painfully > obvious you have not done a bit of homework. Man, > if you can do this for > less than a couple million (look an Lancair, it > almost sent them into > bankruptcy) and in less than 5 years I'll make a > promise...............Upon > reaching youjr 1st. year in operation anniversary, > I'll dance naked in the > street in front of your airplane factory until I get > thrown in a Mexican > jail. Anybody care to join me and make a kanga > line?? > > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY > RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar > flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > > > > > >From: Ronevogt@aol.com > >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Subject: Re: KR>assembly plant > >Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 14:53:25 EDT > > > >Netters; > > My room mate from flight school is now a > colonel in the USMC. I can > >check, through him, so see if "The General" was > really in the Corps, or if > >he was > >a phony. Anyone interested? > > > >RV > >_______________________________________________ > >see KRnet list details at > http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Linden, MI s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Aggie lewanda To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] Message-ID: <20030910182104.59583.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030910200856.00b84388@pop.qut.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 16 --- Fraser McGregor wrote: > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to think in > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) Now back > to planes------ > Fraser, For the last century the United States of America has been the absolute leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam Hussein and the Soviets are long gone and the world is a better place for it. Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire world. EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world worry about what we think of them." Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, Harvey Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS like them, the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the dark! Even foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to come to America and live under our system for their genius to flourish. Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and adopt THEIR way of doing anything! At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my sociology professor taught us about societies being "ethnocentristic". The difference between myself and the cute little socialist sociology professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" society as a terrible thing; while I on the other hand (once I learned what the word meant) was damn proud of it! Warmest Personal Regards, Dean Allen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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