From: krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:45 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 155, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: tailwheel training (David Mikesell) 2. Re: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] (Ron Eason) 3. variable pitch props for Joel and others (Darren Pond) 4. Re: Trans antenna (Ross Youngblood) 5. Re: Transponder (Ross Youngblood) 6. Re: Any contacts in France? (Eduardo M. Iglesias) 7. Re: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dami=E3o_Lycari=E3o?=) 8. Re: tailwheel training (Schools) (Ross Youngblood) 9. RE: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] ENOUGH!! (Dana Overall) 10. Re: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] (Eduardo M. Iglesias) 11. Ozzy and Redcliffe (Fraser McGregor) 12. Re: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] ENOUGH!! (Todd Servaes) 13. wood tester (Gavin Donohoe) 14. RE: Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] (Alexander Birca (MD/RMD)) 15. Re: wood tester (Barry Kruyssen) 16. Flying KR at night 17. Re: None KR ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:02:25 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training Message-ID: <005c01c37800$5df3d5a0$06fea8c0@davids> References: <3F5FBB26.10601@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 True, you don't need it but it makes alot more sense to get the training than to ding your hand made work of art and with the training comes the endorsement anyway. David Mikesell 23957 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:00 PM Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training > Thanks. I looked in 61.31, but stopped before I got to the > exceptions. I have rechecked the rules and searched some other sites > on the net am now certain that I don't need the signoff, but I do need > to at least get more proficient and will definitely get a signoff as > soon as I can find someone to do it. > > Dana Overall wrote: > > >> From: Brian Kraut > >> > >> Also, someone told me that you don't need a tailwheel endorsement > >> for an experimental. FAR 61.31 (i) seems pretty specific to me > >> about requiring the endorsement, not to mention that lawyers will > >> jump on not having it in an accident weather it is required or not. > >> I think it is required. Anyone know different? > > > > > > Brian, the following are some excerpts from 61.31. I don't have the > > FAR in front of me so if you could look up section K exceptions (2) > > iii. If you could throw this out on the KRNet, I would appreciate > > it if someone would verify or not whether I recall this as stated > > below. > > > > > > "The pilot in command of this aircraft SHALL hold a category/class > > rating, or an authorized instructor's logbook endorsement. The pilot > > in command MUST meet the requirements of 61.31 (e), (f), (g), (h), > > (i), and (j) as appropriate." > > > > > > > > The exceptions in (k) do apply. It clearly states in (k) > > Exceptions. > > (2) The > > rating limitations of this section do not apply to-- > > (iii) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft > > under the > > authority of an experimental or provisional aircraft type certificate; > > > > Insurance will certainly require it, but if you don't have an > > approved engine, you're uninsurable in your KR anyway. > > > > > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > > Richmond, KY > > RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" > > Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. > > http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:18:34 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] Message-ID: <001601c37802$9f2d9c20$6401a8c0@Administration> References: <20030910182104.59583.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Excellent, Excellent,Excellent. it is true. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aggie lewanda" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] > > --- Fraser McGregor wrote: > > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to > > think in > > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system > > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) > > Now back > > to planes------ > > > > Fraser, > > For the last century the United States of America has been the > absolute leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam Hussein > and the Soviets are long gone and the world is a better place for it. > > Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the > world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire > world. > > EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President > Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the > rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world worry > about what we think of them." > > Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the > rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, Harvey > Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS like > them, the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the dark! > Even foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to come to > America and live under our system for their genius to flourish. > > Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that > after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the > asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and > adopt THEIR way of doing anything! > > At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my > sociology professor taught us about societies being "ethnocentristic". > The difference between myself and the cute little socialist sociology > professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" society as a terrible > thing; while I on the other hand (once I learned what the word meant) > was damn proud of it! > > Warmest Personal Regards, > > Dean Allen > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:14:11 -0400 From: "Darren Pond" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>variable pitch props for Joel and others Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <163.25708986.2c908e6a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 I have know idea weather you can mount this prop on a VW but a few of the Subaru crowd own them and have spoke of positive performance or course they drop 3-4k purchasing it. www.climbandcruise.com. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+pond27=rogers.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+pond27=rogers.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of JStephenz@aol.com Sent: September 10, 2003 10:26 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Complex I am interested in putting an in flight adjustable pitch prop in my kr2s which has a 1915 cc V.W. in it what would be the best performing prop and where can I get one? Thanks Joel _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:17:17 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Trans antenna Message-ID: <20030911021717.18089.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 I'm not sure about this myself. Is there anyone with RF background who can attest to people getting cooked with Transponder Antenna output? It's one thing to stand next to a Radar dish, but the power levels of the Transponder antenna are much less. I'm going to touch base with some RF guys I work with to see if the power levels are somthing to worry about. I'm thinking the average transponder output is less than 5-10Watts. And I think the power density decreases with distance.. although we will still be quite close. I think the transponder is around 2Ghz... and lots of new stuff is getting into this range... cordless phones for example... but they are at much lower power levels I expect (milliwatts I would guess). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:12:24 -0400 To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Trans antenna > Serge, > Unless you included some kind of shielding from the radiation of the > antenna, you might as well have stuck your head into a microwave. > Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida > FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:21:29 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR> Transponder Message-ID: <20030911022129.25940.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Thanks for the Xponder info... I have a nice little Terra Mode-C unit with an encoder from another vendor... need to get the system calibrated soon, but the Terra unit takes up very little space (1/2 width of a normal radio). So my Xponder and Com radio take the same panel space as a standard radio. Too bad Terra is out of business... ----- Original Message ----- From: red-bridge@juno.com Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:25:32 GMT To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Transponder > > Perhaps I can add some clarification to the transponder issue from an > operational "real world" perspective. That is to say, from my > perspective as a 22 year ATCS at Indy Center. > > Yes, you are required to have an operational transponder with mode C > above 10K, both IFR and VFR. If you are IFR and your transponder fails > in flight, you can expect to be assigned victor airways and or > compulsory reporting points and handled as a non-radar flight. This is > especially true for an aircraft such as a KR which will have very > little primary (non-transponder) radar return. Also bear in mind that, > although the controller is still required to provide you with IFR > separation, beyond the minnimum requirements, the level of service you > will receive is at the descresion of the controller and may be subject > to other operational concerns from an ATC perspective. > > If you are VFR in a KR without a transponder, don't expect much in the > way of flight following, especially from center, as our primary radar > is poor at best. In fact it may be non-existant in many areas, > especially at low altitudes. This is why my KR will have a transponder > with mode C despite the weight concerns. > > I hope this answers some of your questions. > > Keith C. Krumwiede > Rosedale, IN > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:11:53 -0300 From: "Eduardo M. Iglesias" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Any contacts in France? Message-ID: <00a201c3780c$5b809540$d862fea9@portatil> References: <000601c37779$70f776c0$2c0101c0@ate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Eseyez Stefan.Balatchev@wanadoo.fr, il est en train de construire un beau KR-2 Eduardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:34 AM Subject: KR>Any contacts in France? > In an attempt to save my KR from the local Customs services, I need to > contact experimental aircraft builders/owners in France. Are there any here? > Someone got a contact? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > Tunis, Tunisia > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:34:15 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dami=E3o_Lycari=E3o?= To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] Message-ID: <004901c3780d$31bb1cc0$0300a8c0@desknote> References: <20030910182104.59583.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> <001601c37802$9f2d9c20$6401a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 7 You folks in the US have done a lot with your English system, no argueing. But you would have done a hell of a lot more if you had used metrics all the way.So I take my hats off to you (no kidding..) not only for all you have accomplished but also because you did it despite the system you use.I am a brazilian who grew up with metrics, then I got my Master's degree in engineering in the States and ended up working with both systems most of my prefessional life (I am 60 and retired now but still have to deal with both systems in my daily life).This passionate defense of the English system reminds me of the saying: if something complicated works why the hell make it simple? Cheers Damião Lycarião > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aggie lewanda" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:21 PM > Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] > > > > > > --- Fraser McGregor wrote: > > > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to think > in > > > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system > > > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) > > > Now > back > > > to planes------ > > > > > > > Fraser, > > > > For the last century the United States of America has been the > > absolute leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam > > Hussein and the Soviets are long gone and the world is a better > > place for it. > > > > Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the > > world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire > > world. > > > > EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President > > Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the > > rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world > > worry about what we think of them." > > > > Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the > > rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, > > Harvey Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS > > like them, the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the > > dark! Even foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to > > come to America and live under our system for their genius to > > flourish. > > > > Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me > > that after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss > > the asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors > > and adopt THEIR way of doing anything! > > > > At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my > > sociology professor taught us about societies being "ethnocentristic". > > The difference between myself and the cute little socialist > > sociology professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" society as a > > terrible thing; while I on the other hand (once I learned what the > > word meant) was damn proud of it! > > > > Warmest Personal Regards, > > > > Dean Allen > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:36:28 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training (Schools) Message-ID: <20030911023628.13218.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Check http://www.taildraggers.com Vans aircraft does have an RV tailwheel that they give instruction in. It's up here in Oregon. I checked a few years back with an EAA flight advisor which is how I found out about it. Also... in Phoenix, AZ Chandler air service offers tailwheel instruction year round in two beautiful Piper Cubs, and a Aviat Husky (constant speed prop). They are a part 141 school, and also teach aerobatics. You could arrange to take a week off from work this winter and get some SUN and your endorsement at the same time. Another great place for tailwheel instruction is in Nampa ID, where they have a couple of Aeronca Champs. I don't know if that place still has them, but it is cheaper. That's where I got my tailwheel endorsement a few years back. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:00:55 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) To: Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training > Is there really such a thing as a "tailwheel" endorsement. I have a > good many hours in a tailwheel KR and have no such "endorsement". I > was either lucky or not lucky back when I first flew mine because > there either was no such rule, or I was oblivious to it. I knew > almost nothing about flying a tailwheel and certainly was lucky to get > through it without killing myself or destroying my plane. > > I need a refresher, a long one, to get my license current before > flying again and asked my "to be" instructor if he had a tailwheel > plane to give me the instruction and check ride in, no luck there. > > It is too bad that there isn't a school somewhere in the country that > specializes in tailwheel training, like the RV "transition" school. > However for that, you even have to already be experienced in the type > plane that you are getting transition training for. > > N64KR > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Red Oak - 2003 > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:51:55 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] ENOUGH!! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 >Dean Allen flung these words of pure unadulterated shit. >Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that >after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the >asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and >adopt THEIR way of doing anything! Take this redneck SHIT offline. You people who live outside, 99.9% of Americans don't feel like Dean or KRRon and trust me that's a good thing for us all. Like I said, I vote NO MORE NON KR SUBJECT. Fire away Dean!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 Natioanl KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: Aggie lewanda >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >To: KR builders and pilots >Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- Fraser McGregor wrote: > > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to > > think >in > > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system > > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) > > Now >back > > to planes------ > > > >Fraser, > >For the last century the United States of America has been the absolute >leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam Hussein and the >Soviets are long gone and the world is a better place for it. > >Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the >world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire >world. > >EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President >Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the >rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world worry >about what we think of them." > >Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the >rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, Harvey >Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS like them, >the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the dark! Even >foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to come to America >and live under our system for their genius to flourish. > >Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that >after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the >asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and >adopt THEIR way of doing anything! > >At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my >sociology professor taught us about societies being "ethnocentristic". >The difference between myself and the cute little socialist sociology >professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" society as a terrible >thing; while I on the other hand (once I learned what the word meant) >was damn proud of it! > >Warmest Personal Regards, > >Dean Allen > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:55:40 -0300 From: "Eduardo M. Iglesias" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] Message-ID: <011001c37810$30137fe0$d862fea9@portatil> References: <20030910182104.59583.qmail@web40310.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Yes Sir, this way you offend the rest of the world, where we exist people with a thought but wide and tolerant that yours. There are intelligent, honest and pleasant people in the entire world. Not all the germans is as Hitler neither the whole Iraqis like Sadam... and so on. Each one is entitled to use the system that he likes. Or the one that can. Eduardo Iglesias La Pampa Argentina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aggie lewanda" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] > > --- Fraser McGregor wrote: > > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to > > think in > > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system > > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) > > Now back > > to planes------ > > > > Fraser, > > For the last century the United States of America has been the > absolute leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam Hussein > and the Soviets are long gone and the world is a better place for it. > > Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the > world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire > world. > > EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President > Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the > rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world worry > about what we think of them." > > Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the > rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, Harvey > Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS like > them, the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the dark! > Even foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to come to > America and live under our system for their genius to flourish. > > Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that > after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the > asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and > adopt THEIR way of doing anything! > > At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my > sociology professor taught us about societies being "ethnocentristic". > The difference between myself and the cute little socialist sociology > professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" society as a terrible > thing; while I on the other hand (once I learned what the word meant) > was damn proud of it! > > Warmest Personal Regards, > > Dean Allen > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:36:50 +1000 From: Fraser McGregor To: KR builders and pilots , krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Ozzy and Redcliffe Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030911132249.0250d130@pop.qut.edu.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 Good to see you guys on that side of the pacific are just like us guys here. Having been to the US of A and extensively travelled there, I am inclined to say it is a great country, friendly people, pretty much speak english, and we have an awful lot of shared values, but sadly, not as good as the Land of Oz. You guys are pretty welcome down here, generally we identify pretty closely with you lot. We have Coke and Maccas, want fries with that? Having said that, you can only come and visit in Oz if you don't tell anyone what it is like when you go home, as we have a lot of space here, and we don't it filled up with people who want to stay! Besides, we have 9 of the 10 most poisonous snakes living here - make that 9 of the 9 most poisonous snakes. Out where I fly, there is a guy who makes his living by supplying planes to American tourists to go an a safari round the country. You can come here with your license, hire a plane, and have a good time. Check out our ultralight organisation www.auf.asn.au Check out my aeroclubs site http://www.redcliffeaeroclub.com.au/ You can see a piccy of the ' the aerodrome coming onto final Enjoy! At 10:51 PM 10/09/2003 -0400, Dana Overall wrote: >>Dean Allen flung these words of pure unadulterated > >>Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to > >Take this redneck You people who live outside, 99.9% of Americans >don't >feel like Dean or KRRon and trust me that's a good thing for us all. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:50:11 -0700 From: Todd Servaes To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] ENOUGH!! Message-ID: <3F601B23.5020808@vfr.net> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 All, Let's, please, simply buy whichever scale and tape measurer we need for the job at hand and quit bickering about systems of measure. I personally am fond of using the smidge, whisker, finger, and hand system but I do not want to yell at those who use more standard systems. I did have some real problems with the whisker increment when I outgrew my long Biker/Mountain man beard phase, since it changed from two hands to one finger. Todd Servaes PS: My KR will be about eight or nine hands at the canopy. Dana Overall wrote: > > >> Dean Allen flung these words of pure unadulterated shit. > > >> Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that >> after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the >> asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and >> adopt THEIR way of doing anything! > > > Take this redneck SHIT offline. You people who live outside, 99.9% of > Americans don't feel like Dean or KRRon and trust me that's a good > thing for us all. > > Like I said, I vote NO MORE NON KR SUBJECT. Fire away Dean!! > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 Natioanl KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > > > > > >> From: Aggie lewanda >> Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >> To: KR builders and pilots >> Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] >> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >> --- Fraser McGregor wrote: >> > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to >> think in >> > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial >> system >> > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) >> Now back >> > to planes------ >> > >> >> Fraser, >> >> For the last century the United States of America has been the >> absolute leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam Hussein >> and the Soviets are long gone and the world is a better place for it. >> >> Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the >> world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire >> world. >> >> EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President >> Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the >> rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world worry >> about what we think of them." >> >> Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the >> rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, Harvey >> Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS like >> them, the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the dark! >> Even foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to come to >> America and live under our system for their genius to flourish. >> >> Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that >> after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the >> asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and >> adopt THEIR way of doing anything! >> >> At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my >> sociology professor taught us about societies being >> "ethnocentristic". The difference between myself and the cute little >> socialist sociology professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" >> society as a terrible thing; while I on the other hand (once I >> learned what the word meant) was damn proud of it! >> >> Warmest Personal Regards, >> >> Dean Allen >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >> http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:30:01 +1000 From: Gavin Donohoe To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>wood tester Message-ID: <003601c37830$66a41ae0$a64d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 13 Can anybody help me with an IZOD tester for wood ?? as here in Australia we are approved to use a local pine called Hoop and I need to test it's properties first. The tester uses a weight swinging and striking the test piece and measuring what the breaking ft/lb is. Maybe some can direct me to where I can find the instructions to make a tester?? Gav --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:51:44 +0200 From: "Alexander Birca (MD/RMD)" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14 Amen! And no comment. I believe that not all USA people are gangsters, or some things similar. Are you serious about that the only good things come from America? Alex Birca Moldova, small and poor country :-) But beautiful and wonderful! -----Original Message----- From: Aggie lewanda [mailto:agate12@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:21 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Metric system [ NON_KR SUBJECT] --- Fraser McGregor wrote: > What? Thinking in a different base system? If God had meant us to think in > 12's, we would have 12 digits. The only numbers in the imperial system > that stimulates a better understanding of math are 36-26-36 :-) Now > back > to planes------ > Fraser, For the last century the United States of America has been the absolute leader of the free world. The Kaiser, Hitler, Saddam Hussein and the Soviets are long gone and the world is a better place for it. Our business, industry and capital markets are the backbone of the world. "Sound as a dollar" has passed into the lexicon of the entire world. EVERYONE else either wants to come here, or to be like us. President Ronald Reagan said once "It is time for us to stop worrying what the rest of the world thinks about us and let the rest of the world worry about what we think of them." Americans, and our borrowed English measuring system have given the rest of the world it's standard of living. Without Henry Ford, Harvey Firestone, Tom Edison, Donald Trump, Bill Gates and MILLIONS like them, the rest of the world would be savages freezing in the dark! Even foreigners like Tesla, Einstein and Oppenheimer had to come to America and live under our system for their genius to flourish. Now, sorry if I offend anyone but it seems just plain NUTS to me that after all of the above, and much more, we are supposed to kiss the asses of our intellectual, mental, moral and military inferiors and adopt THEIR way of doing anything! At age 52 I have no plans to change. Many years ago in college my sociology professor taught us about societies being "ethnocentristic". The difference between myself and the cute little socialist sociology professor was that she saw an "ethnocenric" society as a terrible thing; while I on the other hand (once I learned what the word meant) was damn proud of it! Warmest Personal Regards, Dean Allen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:53:09 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>wood tester Message-ID: <002101c37831$61d70d00$c102070a@t1w419> References: <003601c37830$66a41ae0$a64d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 Hi Gavin, Are you sure that type of test is hat you should use. The below extract doesn't seem relavant to me. Izod Impact The Izod impact strength of a material, measured by ASTM D 256 procedures, is the amount of energy necessary for a swinging pendulum to break a notched specimen that is secured at one end. The notch in the specimen acts as a stress concentrator or crack growth site. While the test gives a good indication of a material's notch sensitivity, the values may have little validity for the behaviour of unnotched parts in actual service. If the Izod impact strength of a particular resin increases as the notch radius increases, the resin is said to be notch-sensitive. For such resins, sharp corners should be eliminated from product designs whenever possible. For curved corners, the more generous the radius, the greater the impact strength of the corner. Barry Kruyssen kr2@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Donohoe" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: KR>wood tester > Can anybody help me with an IZOD tester for wood ?? as here in > Australia we are approved to use a local pine called Hoop and I need to test it's properties first. > > The tester uses a weight swinging and striking the test piece and measuring what the breaking ft/lb is. Maybe some can direct me to where I can find the instructions to make a tester?? > > Gav > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 05:31:59 EDT From: SRMAKISH@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Flying KR at night Message-ID: <105.360addb6.2c919b0f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Hi guys, Steve here. I have flown my KR many times at night. Went to Dayton few years ago to the Wright Bros. Ceremony and left at 4 am and landed in Albany, GA 3 and a half hours later for fuel. Also made a trip from Augusta, GA down the coast to Fxe with one stop for fuel in Daytona. Talked to the various centers and they cleared me through all the way home. One of the guys in Jax center asked me what kind of experimental I was. I told him it was a Kr and he said, that is VW powered right? I said yes a type 4. His reply was, I have you moving across my screen at 150 knots at 3300 feet !! Night flying is great, but know your route. As some wise guy once said, in a night emergency landing turn on your lights and if you don't like what you see, turn them off. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 8:47:19 -0400 From: To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>None KR Message-ID: <20030911124719.RRFN1780.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 off kr --John Ashcroft is touring state capitals pushing new additions to the "patroit act" If passed the government will be able to search or seize anytime anywhere with no input from any court. They will be able to search your home or business with out telling you and bug your house car and any communications--not answerable to anyone. Reporters will be subject to harrassment as well as letter writers to the editocall your congressman and senator--this is dangerous. They might search my kr ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 155, Issue 1 *************************************