From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 205, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: kr2 sportpilot? (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 2. Re: kr2 sportpilot? (larry severson) 3. Rudder Locked (Eric Evezard) 4. Ready to fly again need hanger space (robert clark) 5. Re: First flight in my KR2 soon. (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 6. Re: exhaust wrap egt temps (larry severson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:57:53 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com,krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>kr2 sportpilot? Message-ID: <20031031.111857.716.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Do not think the spar will support longer wings. Do the engineering, Virg On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:38:44 -0500 "Ron Freiberger" writes: > I'm collecting ideas for a KR2Ssport design. Let me know (anyone) > of > intellectual contributions you can make. > > Extended wing, slotted airfoil, Hershey bar wings, longer gear > legs... > > Ron Freiberger > mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net > [mailto:krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net]On Behalf > Of Jeff > Waldron > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:20 PM > To: 'KR builders and pilots' > Subject: RE: KR>kr2 sportpilot? > > the KR aircraft will not be classified under the new light sport > aircraft > category. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wood, Sidney M. [mailto:smwood@titan.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:31 AM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: RE: KR>kr2 handling characteristics > > > The definitive answer is found on the EAA website > http://www.sportpilot.org/fag_instructor.html > for using > experimental > aircraft for instruction and compensation. > Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 smwood@olg.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Waldron [mailto:jwaldron@GuarantyBankVA.com] > Sent: Thu 10/30/2003 10:01 AM > To: 'KR builders and pilots' > Cc: > Subject: RE: KR>kr2 handling characteristics > > > > Wouldn't the pilot owner have to be a CFI and wouldn't they also > have to let > you use his/her plane at no cost other than fuel. If you were to pay > for it > the training because it is an experimental aircraft? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Stone [mailto:rstone4@hot.rr.com > ] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:37 AM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: Re: KR>kr2 handling characteristics > > > It's OK for a low time pilot to attempt flying a KR but only if he > has a > death wish. If you were trained on a Cessna l50 or 152 as most of us > were, > this is a very forgiving low performance aircraft. The KR's on the > other > hand are a high performance aircraft and not forgiving at all. Find > someone > who ownes a 2 place KR-2 and learn to fly it with them even if you > have to > pay for it. This will be money well spent. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raymond Hightower" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:30 PM > Subject: KR>kr2 handling characteristics > > > > Is a KR2 okay for a low time pilot? > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney > Spears_______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:38:28 -0800 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>kr2 sportpilot? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031083643.02839220@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20031031.111857.716.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 At 11:57 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: > Do not think the spar will support longer wings. Do the >engineering, Virg It will, at reduced G loading. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:17:09 +0200 From: "Eric Evezard" To: "KR NEWS" Subject: KR>Rudder Locked Message-ID: <000001c39fd3$85866880$93cc07c4@user> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 3 Hi Netters, Over here a sailplane pilot found himself with full left rudder = lock.Something on the right had let go and the left return spring pulled = full left rudder.He evidently could not slip his foot under the pedal to = correct.As a skilled and experienced pilot,he managed to reach a dam = where he did what some called a slow sideslip into the dam.He survived = but hearsay had it that the glider was damaged.I would not like to try = this with a KR.Therefore,whatever arrangement you have on your KR,make = sure that rudder lock can be avoided. Best Regards, Eric Evezard South Africa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:37:06 -0800 (PST) From: robert clark To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Ready to fly again need hanger space Message-ID: <20031031173706.49275.qmail@web12905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 Hi all. After a move from Iowa were hanger space is cheap to Coral Springs Florida. After a major revamp of my KR2 Iam now read to fly! My Kr2 has 250 hours of trouble free flying on it for those who are interested. Now comes the hard part, finding hanger space in south florida! If anyone know of any hanger space or a corner in one within 100 mile .Email me Thanks Much Kr2flyer1986@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney SpearsFrom Ronevogt@aol.com Fri Oct 31 09:57:40 2003 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.7]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AFdWm-0006xF-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:57:40 -0800 Received: from Ronevogt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id g.2d.35facaae (4328) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:02:05 -0500 (EST) From: Ronevogt@aol.com Message-ID: <2d.35facaae.2cd3fd9d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:02:05 EST Subject: Re: KR>First flight in my KR2 soon. To: krnet@mylist.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Netters: I'm a 7,000 hour CFII/ATP. My KR-2S was signed off 5 days ago. It has tricycle gear with a Subaru EJ-22w/reduction drive. I'm sneaking up on the actual flying of the little beast by doing high speed runs down the runway. I will continue in this approach until I feel absolutely sure of myself before I slip the surly bonds of earth. I can't imagine a low time pilot trying to fly a KR without getting some instruction from a qualified CFI before flying one of these things. By the way, (for all of you with tricycle landing gear), at what speed does your nose gear come up? I think I might be a little nose heavy. RV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:02:26 -0500 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>First flight in my KR2 soon. Message-ID: <20031031.140227.2436.2.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 I fly mine just like a 172, once I see 60 mph I start pulling back. I did not have any training in anything w/a stick prior to flying my 2S, and truthfully I don't think it would have mattered if I had because the KR is unlike anything else. I did what u are doing-------getting a feel for it on the ground first, I believe I only spent 1.5 hrs total taxi time over 3 days before I flew it off. I was kinda shocked by the way it jumped off the runway once I pulled back. Just don't over due it on the stick or u will really know the meaning of PILOT INDUCED OCCILLATION. Good Luck On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:02:05 EST Ronevogt@aol.com writes: > Netters: > I'm a 7,000 hour CFII/ATP. My KR-2S was signed off 5 days ago. > It has > tricycle gear with a Subaru EJ-22w/reduction drive. I'm sneaking up > on the > actual flying of the little beast by doing high speed runs down the > runway. I > will continue in this approach until I feel absolutely sure of > myself before I > slip the surly bonds of earth. I can't imagine a low time pilot > trying to fly > a KR without getting some instruction from a qualified CFI before > flying one > of these things. > By the way, (for all of you with tricycle landing gear), at > what speed > does your nose gear come up? I think I might be a little nose > heavy. > > RV > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:54:03 -0800 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>exhaust wrap egt temps Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031031115340.02894be0@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <1d6.134df431.2cd30ae4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 How did you wrap your exhaust? At 07:46 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: >hi all my egt temps are higher now after warping i guess this is normal >but like to see if others experienced the same. old temps 1200 1250 >climb out now IM see 1300 1350 back to 1200 at cruse 3200 rpms all so >it takes longer to come back down at idle. on the tangible side its as >strong as its ever been after the intake and exs wrap 3550 static not >to shabby intake great planes carb revflow > > > > > > >mac n1055a >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 205, Issue 2 *************************************