From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 209, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. (no subject) 2. KR2S Plans 3. RE: (no subject) (Ron Freiberger) 4. KR2S Plans 5. Re: Unit Converter (Phillip Matheson) 6. Re: (no subject) (roger mitchell) 7. Re: KR2S Fuse (Phil Matheson) 8. Re: Fiberglass (Russ Fenlason) 9. Re: KR2S Plans (F Ross) 10. RE: KR2S Plans 11. Recall: KR>KR2S Plans 12. Re: KR2S Plans (Bob Sauer) 13. Re: KR2S Plans (Joseph H. Horton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:32:56 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>(no subject) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Greg S. Grabowski Systems Manager Leatherwood Walker Todd & Mann, P.C. (864) 240-2440 ggrabowski@lwtm.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:54:08 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S. I have reviewed plans sets before for large projects such as airplanes and sailboats, and often found that the clarity and quality were poor, even for the more expensive sets. I'm trying to solicit some feedback to ensure that this is not the case with the KR plans. Although what constitutes good quality and clarity is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback from those that have already built (or are building) from these plan sets would be a good indication. Any comments would be most appreciated. Thanks. Greg S. Grabowski Systems Manager Leatherwood Walker Todd & Mann, P.C. (864) 240-2440 ggrabowski@lwtm.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:11:32 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>(no subject) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 I guess I have one. If I'm gonna meet sport pilot requirements, I guess I on't be flying inverted. New carb, make an offer.Anything to trade-in? Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=swfla.rr.com@mylist.net] On Behalf Of roger mitchell Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:17 PM To: kr net Subject: KR>(no subject) I'm looking for a ellison EFS-2, if anybody knows of one avaible please let me know, Roger Mitchell @ rpmmouse@msn.com_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:29:39 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: <18e.21d6bbeb.2cd84cf3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 I think positive or negative feedback from those that have already built (or are building) from these plan sets would be a good indication. Any comments would be most appreciated. Thanks. Greg S. Grabowski I had an early set and found all the information on them I needed. With the KR net for support you will have help other builders don't have. Just be sure it's the plane for you, hopefully without too many changes. Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:30:22 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Unit Converter Message-ID: <001001c3a283$fb87c3a0$7496dccb@ralf> References: <002101c3a1ae$c9417ec0$744d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 I found this free down load of a desk top Converter. It it convert almost anything to anything eg Nots to MPH or KMH plus heaps http://www.mcp.com.au/ about half way down the page Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Donohoe" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: 03 November 2003 12:47 Subject: KR>Brown and Bailies VW > Has anybody heard of Brown and Bailies VW conversions?? > > Gav > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 01/11/2003 > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:53:57 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>(no subject) Message-ID: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 Ron, I have a revmaster carb, but my manifold inhibits a gravity feed = set-up, pls contact me th my e-mail address with a phone number so I can = call you about the ellison ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ron Freiberger=20 To: KR builders and pilots=20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: RE: KR>(no subject) I guess I have one. If I'm gonna meet sport pilot requirements, I = guess I on't be flying inverted. New carb, make an offer.Anything to = trade-in? Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=3Dswfla.rr.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+rfreiberger=3Dswfla.rr.com@mylist.net] On = Behalf Of roger mitchell Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:17 PM To: kr net Subject: KR>(no subject) I'm looking for a ellison EFS-2, if anybody knows of one avaible = please let me know, Roger Mitchell @ rpmmouse@msn.com_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:17:28 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Fuse Message-ID: <005f01c3a2bc$ec041df0$d496dccb@Office> References: <001401c37508$86bc9580$a96ecacb@amipentium200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 John. Do you know of a KR2S fuse for sale Or do have plans plans for a KR2S I'm thinking out load, about building a 2S or SS fuse now and use my wing and all the stuff I already have, then sell my boat. any comments ??? Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:12:31 -0600 From: "Russ Fenlason" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Fiberglass Message-ID: <003301c3a2d5$4ddb5760$0400a8c0@D2M43L01> References: <002301c39ecb$3b818700$7e4d8690@oemcomputer> <3FA0F6E4.00000C.03924@Computer> <007a01c39edb$777b46a0$7e4d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Gavin: Remember that in the KR the strength is in the wood. The fibreglassn is to protect the wood and allow graceful curves. Although many have added extra strength with the glass they also are adding weight We also have a lot of heavy birds out there because of all the heavy glass. We need to compromise somewhere. Choose your glass weight based upon your desire to protect the foam that shapes your plane and in areas you think added strength would be of benefit and worth the extra weight. Remember that extra weight means you need more harsepower, which means you need mere fuel whjich means you need to build stronger which means more weight and the spiral continues. Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:37:15 -0800 (PST) From: F Ross To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: <20031104163715.9659.qmail@web40910.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 --- GGrabowski@LWTM.COM wrote: > I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S. > is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback > from those that have > already built (or are building) from these plan sets > would be a good > indication. Any comments would be most appreciated. Greg, The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd get an idea of how difficult building it would be. Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same for the KR-1 plans. ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK alamokr2@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:05:06 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 Frank, Thank-you for your response. I must admit, I'm a little skeptical as I've had several negative responses. I really want to build a wooden aircraft, and I think I've narrowed my choices to the KR2S or a GP-4 (there don't seem to be many choices available). I really don't want to buy the kits, and would like to fabricate my own from the plans. Are the KR2S plans sufficiently detailed to allow this, or are they simply assembly plans that require you to purchase the parts prefabricated? Thank-you again for your insight. Greg -----Original Message----- From: F Ross [mailto:alamokr2@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:37 AM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans --- GGrabowski@LWTM.COM wrote: > I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S. > is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback > from those that have > already built (or are building) from these plan sets > would be a good > indication. Any comments would be most appreciated. Greg, The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd get an idea of how difficult building it would be. Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same for the KR-1 plans. ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK alamokr2@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:06:46 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Recall: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 The sender would like to recall the message, "KR>KR2S Plans". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:27:22 -0700 From: "Bob Sauer" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: <002401c3a309$abe43a00$a43a3818@ph.cox.net> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Greg, I have fabricated all my own parts for my KR2S without any difficulty. It does take some studying and several times over the plans, but for the basic airframe, its all there. No engine forward, landing gear, instrument panel or hydraulic brakes, but all of this stuff is available on the internet. It just takes time. Bob Sauer Sun City West, AZ From: resauer@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: RE: KR>KR2S Plans > Frank, > > Thank-you for your response. I must admit, I'm a little skeptical as > I've had several negative responses. I really want to build a wooden > aircraft, and I think I've narrowed my choices to the KR2S or a GP-4 > (there don't seem > to be many choices available). I really don't want to buy the kits, > and would like to fabricate my own from the plans. Are the KR2S plans > sufficiently detailed to allow this, or are they simply assembly plans that > require you to purchase the parts prefabricated? Thank-you again for > your insight. > > Greg > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: F Ross [mailto:alamokr2@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:37 AM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans > > > --- GGrabowski@LWTM.COM wrote: > > I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S. > > > is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback > > from those that have > > already built (or are building) from these plan sets > > would be a good > > indication. Any comments would be most appreciated. > > Greg, > The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the > case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of > KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd > get an idea of how difficult building it would be. > Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find > the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same > for the KR-1 plans. > > > ===== > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK > alamokr2@yahoo.com > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:57:50 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans Message-ID: <20031104.145752.156.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 Greg What Bob said is correct except that I found that when I ordered some of the kit packages from Rand Robinson that additional instruction came with each item. With the top deck premolds and header tank there was at least 10 additional pages, with the landing gear and brakes there was also another 8 or 10 pages of instructions. I do not know why they aren't provided with the book and I also believe it should be. Bottom line is that the plane can be built from the instructions and having accesss to all the information provided here on the net can put you months ahead of the way I started 9 long years ago. Good Luck -- Joe Horton On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 12:27:22 -0700 "Bob Sauer" writes: > Greg, > > I have fabricated all my own parts for my KR2S without any > difficulty. It > does take some studying and several times over the plans, but for > the basic > airframe, its all there. No engine forward, landing gear, instrument > panel > or hydraulic brakes, but all of this stuff is available on the > internet. It > just takes time. > > Bob Sauer > Sun City West, AZ > From: resauer@cox.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 209, Issue 1 *************************************