From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 212, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Engine for sale 2. Re: Engine for sale (gerald locker) 3. Problems with Wicks-NOT (larry flesner) 4. Re: Problems with Wicks-NOT (Mark Langford) 5. Re: Wheels and stuff (Timothy Bellville) 6. Thanks 7. Another dose of Fun Friday (Dana Overall) 8. Re: Psru (David Mikesell) 9. Re: Problems with Wicks (Scott Cable) 10. Re: Fw: Revmaster oil - GPAS engine oil (Mac McConnell-Wood) 11. RE: Fw: Revmaster oil (Scott Cable) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:48:35 EST From: Frlfarmer@wmconnect.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Engine for sale Message-ID: <120.26e814a0.2cdce093@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 I am getting bad in my old age. That # should be 423 968 2556. Duh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 03:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: gerald locker To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Engine for sale Message-ID: <20031107115923.70491.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <120.26e814a0.2cdce093@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 --- Frlfarmer@wmconnect.com wrote: > I am getting bad in my old age. That # should be 423 > 968 2556. Duh What type engine and how many cc's? What are you asking? We have an old 1800cc Revmaster on the KR-2 and we also need something for the KR-1. Contact me at Brigadier192003@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:27:12 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Problems with Wicks-NOT Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031107062712.008473f0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <048a01c3a4c4$1162f8b0$1202a8c0@basement> References: <20031106173315.94025.qmail@web40801.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 I've ordered hundreds of bolts from Wicks, many in onesies and twosies, and >not once did they send me the wrong one. You order bolts from Wicks by part number, not by grip or length. >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= I agree with Mark. I've been ordering from Wick's for almost 14 years now and I don't EVER recall getting the wrong bolt or part for that matter. The buyer determines the "grip length" needed. The bolt chart has the "Nom." and "grip" spec's in the first colume. Find the bolt with the grip length you want, decide what type bolt you want, i.e. drilled head, drilled shank, etc., and determine the AN - - - part number to order. The only time I got the wrong size bolts is when I didn't determine the "grip" length properly. Something you builders just starting out might want to consider is adding a few bolts and other hardware to each order you place. It doesn't take long to build a nice inventory on hand and you don't have to wait or pay shipping each time you need a bolt. I would often add 5 of each AN - - - dash # up to say a 3 inch (length) bolt, add 100 washers, 100 each of different type nuts, etc. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:51:49 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Problems with Wicks-NOT Message-ID: <004701c3a52d$e9491ca0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: <20031106173315.94025.qmail@web40801.mail.yahoo.com> <3.0.6.32.20031107062712.008473f0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Larry Flesner wrote: > Something you builders just starting out might want to consider is > adding a few bolts and other hardware to each order you place. It > doesn't take long to build a nice inventory on hand and you don't have > to wait or pay shipping each time you need a bolt. This is an excellent recommendation, and exactly what I've done over the years as well. I now have two of those plastic Rubbermaid compartimented containers with several (or many) of every size of AN3 and AN4 bolt up to about 3 inches. I can't tell you how many times it's kept me from being held up and having to order and wait on a shipment. On the other hand, if you DO need one or two bolts, Wicks is kind enough to send you little light stuff like that US Mail, so you only have to pay 37 or 74 cents for postage, rather than $5 UPS for a practically empty box. I can't say enough good things about Wicks. Yes, it costs a small percentage more than AS&S, but I've had MUCH better service out of Wicks. I don't know how it could have been better. Everything in their catalog is on the shelf. Not so with AS&S. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:15:54 -0500 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Message-ID: <000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas> References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Hi Steve, Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.) And I'll go in to great detail on my conversion. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff Hey there netters. I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for the KR2s that I can make my own with. Also the rim, brake disc and mounting bracket with axle. I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no way to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple hundred bucks worth of stuff. The same type goods on any other vehicle would be priced much much less. So if you have a junk one laying around and are anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other out. The one relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so maybe we could get a group run going. Any one??? Safe Flying to ya! Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:53:06 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Thanks Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 I wanted to take the opportunity to express my gratitude to all those who responded to my questions about the quality of the KR2S plans and choice of lumber. My decision to purchase the plans was in no small part based on the strength of the users group and their willingness to share their experience. I hope to become a contributing member at some point (after much more experience than I have now). Thanks again. Greg S. Grabowski Greenville, SC ggrabowski@lwtm.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:09:34 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Another dose of Fun Friday Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 Since the forum is now open to aviation topics here is my latest: http://rvflying.tripod.com/canopyfit.jpg As you can see, it is taking on much larger proportions. Yes, the HS, VS and elevators are mounted with pushrods going from the mounted control assemble to the elevator. The seat floors and baggage floors are permanenetly installed along with the substructure under the forward deck. You can see one gear leg under the fuselage, I've got about an hour left to finish the other one. The canopy is final trimmed and drilled to the canopy frame and fitted to the slider tracks so it actually works. Pretty cool to sit in it and slide her shut. You talkin' about making airplane noises............................. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:06:46 -0800 From: "David Mikesell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Psru Message-ID: <013501c3a540$c3d4d0a0$03fea8c0@davids> References: <003201c3a522$5d2ff140$414d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 RFI has plans for all the subaru engines psru. They are $30 each and have been proven for years. You can contact them at: Company Name: RFI Products Owner/President:Don Parham Address: HC 67 Box 164 Indianola,OK 74442 USA E-mail rfi@oklatel.net Phone: 918-823-4610 David Mikesell 23957 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Donohoe" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:28 AM Subject: KR>Psru > HI all I've been looking back through the archives about PSRU's for > Subaru engines, and in about 2001 there was some posts about plans to construct one. I intend to build my own and most of the parts are available in my home town. Can anybody direct me to anyone who has the plans available please? > > Thanks > Gavin > Australia > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 01/11/2003 > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:55:53 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Problems with Wicks Message-ID: <20031107165553.28078.qmail@web40801.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <048a01c3a4c4$1162f8b0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 I've forwarded several of the responses to my friend... I'm hoping this is just a non-issue, and he resolves this on his own. I know that when I have ever ordered ANYTHING from Wicks, the order has been 100% correct, weather I was ordering Bolts, or Kevlar or BID. --- Mark Langford wrote: > Scott Cable wrote: > > > The Wick's Warehouse Supervisor was sending him > bolts > > based on Total Length, NOT Grip Length. And then > had > > told my friend that that's how they have been > doing it > > for the last 30 years. > > I've ordered hundreds of bolts from Wicks, many in > onesies and twosies, and > not once did they send me the wrong one. I don't > understand how this could > happen. You order bolts from Wicks by part number, > not by grip or length. > If you give them the wrong part number, you'll > probably get the wrong bolt. > I'm not sure that I've ever talked to the Warehouse Supervisor, in the > many times I've ordered from Wicks, and somehow, I doubt > he's the guy that fills > ALL of the bolt orders! > > I have nothing but good things to say about Wicks, > and almost nothing good > to say about AS&S, but that's based on my own 10 > years of personal > experience, so your mileage may vary. In my > hundreds of orders to Wicks, > I've had exactly one thing backordered (for a few > days) and got the wrong > part ONCE that I can remember. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:04:31 -0000 From: "Mac McConnell-Wood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil - GPAS engine oil Message-ID: <019b01c3a551$38748440$38df403e@tinypc> References: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E9717461DBC86@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Thanks Christian, I have rechecked the engine oil press and temps with synthetic oil and all appear to be OK (40psi, 200°f) but the engine does tighten up after 20 mins running, so that the starter motor will only just turn it over!So I have taken your advice (that from over the pond is too confusing!)and will go back to 30 sae (what specification are you using now?) Regards, Mac ----- Original Message ---- From: "Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:41 AM Subject: RE: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil - GPAS engine oil The engine was broken in with conventional 30W oil. However for the flights I thought I need something special and expensive. I shared my low oil pressure experience with an experienced VW mechanic and he told me that the synthetic is ok, if you get the right one. Anyway, since the switch I have about 85°C (182°F) oil temp at the end of a 5 min 85 kts climb out at 3bar (45psi). Christian OE-VPD http://www.members.aon.at/oevpd -----Original Message----- From: Flymaca711689@aol.com [mailto:Flymaca711689@aol.com] Sent: Freitag, 07. November 2003 04:32 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil - GPAS engine oil Did you break your engine in with conventional 30 w oil? If not that's the problem you never broke it in. Mobil ones for me i was going to try the wal mart brand but after think about it all stick with a winner although house brand is Pennzoil at $2.38 qt it is attractive Vs $5.00 mac n1055a _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:25:18 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil Message-ID: <20031107172518.2387.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <000a01c3a4c7$7be72960$cad95540@jfaughn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 What I can tell you (from my personal experience) is that you should use a regular straight weight motor oil during the breakin period. After the engine is well broken in then switch to Mobil 1. I have noticed a significant decrease in Oil Temps when using Mobil 1. I also noticed that the engine seemed "freer" and reved faster. Can I quantify it with actual numbers, No, but as a race driver, I could notice a difference. A Formula Vee engine is a very finicky little animal, and required constant attention. Because that little engine was so high revving, and didn't make a whole bunch of power, ANY increase to power output or rev capability was easily noticed. After using Mobil 1, I noticed that I didn't have to re-hone or replace rings as frequently. If you attempt to breakin the engine with a Synthetic oil, the synthetic oil lubricates so well that it will prevent the rings from seating properly. I won't venture into the detergent / Non-Detergent arguement about breakin periods, other than saying that I use Detergent oil for breakin. The thery being that the detergent "suspends" any foreign matter that could have been left during the re-build process. I also cut apart all of my oil filters as I want to know what the filter has trapped. Your results may vary. --- Jim Faughn wrote: > I use Valvoline (sp?) Durablend. It is a partial > Synthetic and when I > started using it, I found my oil temp dropped 10 > degrees. I went to it > because it provided a higher breakdown temp than > typical oil and was > reasonably priced although for 4 quarts of oil, who > cares what it > costs.... > > Jim > > Jim Faughn > 4323D Laclede Ave. > St. Louis, MO 63108 > (314)652-7659 > Email - sub @ for "at" jfaughn "at" socket.net > Web Site http://jfaughn.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On > Behalf Of Dan Heath > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:29 PM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil > > > Is Amsoil a synthetic? I understand that synthetics > do not do well in > air and oil cooled engines because they do not > transfer as much heat as > regular oil. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the > pic > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: KR builders and pilots > > Date: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:29:18 PM > > To: macwood@tinyworld.co.uk; krnet@mylist.net > > Subject: Re: KR>Fw: Revmaster oil > > > > Amsoil is slicker and will keep down temps > better than petrolem > > oils. Keeps engine from getting so hot > > that parts close up clearances., Virg > > > > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:29:19 -0000 "Mac > McConnell-Wood" > > writes: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mac McConnell-Wood > > > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:51 AM > > > Subject: Revmaster oil > > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there used synthetic oil in a > Revmaster? I know > > > Willie swears by it, but I get the impression that > the engine > > > tightens up when it gets up to operating > temps.Thanks for any input. > > > And Frank Ross > > > over there in the gongless hinterlands of Suffolk > ,if you yearn for > > > the civilised environment of southern England, pop > over some time > > > and see my KR 1.5 and share a warm beer or three. > > > Regards, Mac > > > Hampshire UK > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at > http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ._______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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