From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:21 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Hi every body (alphabravo pilot) 2. Building wings..Off the 'plane (Ron Freiberger) 3. KR1B Motorglider (Mark Langford) 4. Building wings..Off the 'plane 5. 5048 wing (Gavin Donohoe) 6. Re: Building wings..Off the 'plane (Joseph H Horton) 7. Engine Quits 8. Re: Engine Quits (Mark Langford) 9. KR2S/Corvair intake plenum (Mark Langford) 10. Re: 5048 wing (Mark Langford) 11. Re: 5048 wing (Gavin Donohoe) 12. Re: 5048 wing (Mark Jones) 13. Re: KR2S/Corvair intake plenum (Dan Heath) 14. Re: Wheels and stuff (Steve and Lori McGee) 15. RE: Wheels and stuff (Ron Freiberger) 16. Les Palmer (Gavin Donohoe) 17. Re: Curing temperature for epoxy (Rick Wilson) 18. Replies (Steve and Lori McGee) 19. Spinner (Bob Sauer) 20. Re: Les Palmer 21. Re: Spinner 22. Building wings off fuse (Steve and Lori McGee) 23. Re: primer and paint (roger mitchell) 24. Re: primer and paint (Barry Kruyssen) 25. Re: Building wings..Off the 'plane (roger mitchell) 26. KR logo (Dana Overall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:02:37 +0000 From: "alphabravo pilot" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Hi every body Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Hi and slaam from almarzuoqi to evry body in the krnet. my name is Nasser and I'm from UAE ,,,I'm building this small baby as wel ....I started befor six monthes ago , at the moment I'm building the wings , and there are lot of things you could see in my site as soon as possiabe..... I founde that Kr net is that site which keeps those intrested people arround the world very closed to each other ...sharing and exchanging infos are the key to know many great people who are having great xp in world of aveation, specially in flying, building and much more..... thanks to all of you friends and sorry about my very poor english ............. best regards AL MARZUOQI _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with [1]e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2740??PS= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:56:20 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRNET" Subject: KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 My problem... not enough garage room for the KRSport wing. I'm curious to know how stiff it'll be after I get one side glassed. Can I detach it from the wing stub and finish the other side mounted on a "custom made" support structure? My goal is 28 foot span, same 36 inch chord at the tips, slotted airfoil at the outer ends, no washout. It sure would be easier if I could take the partially completed wing off with one side glassed. Someone said, "Opinions are like _____. Everyone has their own, nobody wants to look at yours". But with no wing to squeeze or twist here, I need some opinions. Ron Freiberger Sport pilot in process. mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:34:48 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>KR1B Motorglider Message-ID: <059001c3a711$b11bfd30$1202a8c0@basement> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Ron Freiberger wrote: > My problem... not enough garage room for the KRSport wing. There's an interesting article in the December 2003 Kitplanes (page 15) that discusses the Europa MOTORGLIDER. The guy that built it lost his medical, but discovered that all you need to fly a "motorglider" is a glider license! No medical required. It seems that we KR folks are sitting on the ultimate no-medical fighting machine, the KR1B Motorglider. The article didn't elaborate about what makes a plane a legal motorglider, but this thing had a gross weight of 1450 pounds and had a 115 hp engine in it. The "Kit Aircraft Directory" in the same issue lists the cruise speed as 174 mph, stall speed as 45 mph, 760 mile range, takeoff and landing in 600 feet, fuel capacity of 28 gallons, and two seats. Get the picture guys? The KR1 would certainly qualify. I'd call the local FSDO just in case, but it sounds like all you'd need is some longer wings and a glider license to keep on flying, regardless of Sport Pilot. My guess is that the definition of motorglider is based on wing loading, but I could be wrong. Does anybody actually OWN a set of KR1B Motorglider plans? If so, are there any structural differences to the spars? My guess is probably not. Anybody know the price differential in plans or parts? RR's website makes practically no mention of the KR1B plans or parts. Speaking of which, RR sent me an update to the price list for all models, parts, and supplies, which I've updated. Details are at http://www.fly-kr.com/ . New prices are in effect, as of November 2003. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:33:55 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: Krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane Message-ID: <1a0.1cc1a095.2ce028e3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 It sure would be easier if I could take the partially completed wing off with one side glassed. Ron Freiberger Sport pilot in process. The wing will be as floppy as all get out with just one side glassed. You can have things a little off when glassing the first side. But, when you glass the second side you had better have the alignment all correct because that is when everything all ties together. So, I guess the answer is do what ever you want. Just be sure and double check all alingment measurements before doing the second side. Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:47:07 +1000 From: Gavin Donohoe To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>5048 wing Message-ID: <001e01c3a71b$c9699000$fc4d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 5 Hi all, Well I'll soon be starting on my wing and I've chosen the 5048, are there any good or bad reports about it yet ?? hows the performance shaping up?? Gavin Australia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:48:04 -0500 From: Joseph H Horton To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com,krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane Message-ID: <20031109.184836.-417633.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:56:20 -0500 "Ron Freiberger" writes: > My problem... not enough garage room for the KRSport wing. I'm > curious to > know how stiff it'll be after I get one side glassed. Can I detach > it from > the wing stub and finish the other side mounted on a "custom made" > support > structure? Ron -- I just finished building wings a week ago and I would not remove the wings half finished. There was still a good deal of flex and twist that could be induced with one side glassed. When the second side was glassed I was amazed at how stiff they became. I could not twist the wing at the tip with it all cured. Goooood luck Joe Horton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:53:50 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: <1c1.1170ce40.2ce02d8e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 What carb is he using? N64KR I don't remember now. I'll ask him again if the weather is good and he can make it over next month. In the conversation he did mention float bowls and unvented carburetors. Perhaps the float bowl cavity is unvented on some. My time was really spent trying to keep the conversation on the problem I'm having with my brakes. So you know where my mind was at. Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:19:15 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: <05ae01c3a720$4666f350$1202a8c0@basement> References: <1c1.1170ce40.2ce02d8e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Lynn Hyder wrote: > I don't remember now. I'll ask him again if the weather is good and he > can make it over next month. In the conversation he did mention float > bowls and > unvented carburetors. Perhaps the float bowl cavity is unvented on > some. Jim Hill had the same problem. He had a great running engine with a bunch of hours on it, and hooked up a new "ram air" snorkel like Marty's. But he provided the ram only to the throat, rather than to the whole thing, including float bowl, and as soon as he leveled out and got up some speed, the engine quit. That's when he did a dead stick landing in a cotton field and tore the tail off. I don't remember exactly the carb he was running either, but it had a float bowl that ended up not being vented to the same air source as the carb inlet, which he suspects was the problem. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:47 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>KR2S/Corvair intake plenum Message-ID: <05b501c3a720$a0e61090$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 NetHeads, I sent this to the CorvAircraft list yesterday, but it occured to me that you VW guys could appreciate this too. Back when Troy Petteway had a 2180, he built a nifty carbon fiber plenum for it that he said cooled way better than the baffles and chafe seal scenario, which allowed him to reduce the size of his inlets and pick up some extra speed. Jabirus use something very similar today. Anyway, it's at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/plenum/ . It sure is easy to do this on the Vair, and Troy proved that it can be done on the VW as well... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:21:33 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>5048 wing Message-ID: <05b401c3a720$98d5b400$1202a8c0@basement> References: <001e01c3a71b$c9699000$fc4d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Gavin wrote: > Well I'll soon be starting on my wing and I've chosen the 5048, are > there any good or bad reports about it yet ?? hows the performance shaping up??< Don't you mean 48/46? I don't think you want to use a pure 48 all the way to the root, at least it was discouraged by the designer. None that I know of, other than Dean Selby's, and he hasn't had much to say about it. There will be a few next year though, including Mark Jones and others... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:37:25 +1000 From: Gavin Donohoe To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>5048 wing Message-ID: <008d01c3a722$d07103e0$fc4d8690@oemcomputer> References: <001e01c3a71b$c9699000$fc4d8690@oemcomputer> <05b401c3a720$98d5b400$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 11 That's right I've printed your plans from the pdf out and cut the templates/ribs from the plans. it is 5048 / 5046 Gav ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: KR>5048 wing > Gavin wrote: > > > Well I'll soon be starting on my wing and I've chosen the 5048, are there > any good or bad reports about it yet ?? hows the performance shaping > up??< > > Don't you mean 48/46? I don't think you want to use a pure 48 all the > way to the root, at least it was discouraged by the designer. None > that I know > of, other than Dean Selby's, and he hasn't had much to say about it. There > will be a few next year though, including Mark Jones and others... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:43:25 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>5048 wing Message-ID: <017c01c3a723$a6e31620$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <001e01c3a71b$c9699000$fc4d8690@oemcomputer> <05b401c3a720$98d5b400$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" I don't think you want to use a pure 48 all the way > to the root, at least it was discouraged by the designer. None that I know > of, other than Dean Selby's, and he hasn't had much to say about it. There > will be a few next year though, including Mark Jones and others... Actually, since I have the stock version of the wing spars, I will be using AS5046 throughout the airfoil root to tip. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:49:23 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>KR2S/Corvair intake plenum Message-ID: <3FAEE093.000009.00308@Computer> References: <05b501c3a720$a0e61090$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 13 I like it, it looks like he built that out of regular glass. And what ab= out the epoxy getting soft? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From flesner@midwest.net Sun Nov 09 18:14:31 2003 Received: from epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.181]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJ1ZX-000J11-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:14:31 -0800 Received: from dsc02-cir-oh-204-32-78-197.rasserver.net ([204.32.78.197] helo=larry-flesner) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AJ1eJ-0005q7-00; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 18:19:28 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20031109201321.0084fe70@pop.midwest.net> X-Sender: flesner@pop.midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:13:21 -0600 To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com,KRnet From: larry flesner In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: >It sure would be easier if I could take the partially completed wing >off with one side glassed. >Ron Freiberger +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ron, I removed my outer wing panels after glassing the tops. I placed them on a work table, and then built my fuel tanks complete except for the closing which was the bottom side of the wing. There was little if any flex. I did mount them back to the stub wings before glassing the bottom but I see no reason you couldn't do the same with your "custom jig" if it were built to close tolerance. The two critical factors here would be the fit of the wing attach fittings and building the wing true, ZERO WASHOUT in your case. A well built jig should hold the attach fittings as you also have the inboard rib, foam, and glass. My fittings fit perfectly when I reattached my wings. As for holding the wing true, mark your cord lines on the inboard and outboard ribs and attach a piece of "quarter round" trim or some type of platform on which to place a level. SmartLevel would be best but a good bubble level should be just as accurate. Make sure you jig the wing with both cord lines level and it should work out just fine. I'd even go out on a limb and say that if you used a piece of 1/4" ply for the inboard rib and used gussets, that you could do the entire wing on a jig after you glue the ribs in place with the spars attached to the stub wing fittings. I recall you wanted some a__h___ to give you an opinion so I felt obligated to reply. :-) Have a good one. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:37:47 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Message-ID: <010301c3a733$a1047360$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas><00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <001101c3a6c1$25e1f490$355f570c@donnas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 Steve McGee PO box 17 439 Doyan St. Endeavor, Wi 53930 608-697-5354 - My cell - That way I know I will get the message. Kids you know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > Anytime is fine Steve, But I have to work second shift till > Thursday(2-10) I can snail mail you some pic's . but My lap to wont up > load any from my camera.Asking Santa for a new Desktop Also give me > your number in case I miss you and I'll call you back. Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > Weekends only or anytime? Got any pics? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Timothy Bellville" > > To: "KR builders and pilots" > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM > > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.) And I'll > > > go in to great detail on my conversion. Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM > > > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > > > Hey there netters. I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for > > > the > KR2s > > > that I can make my own with. Also the rim, brake disc and > > > mounting > > bracket > > > with axle. I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no > > way > > > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple hundred > > > bucks worth of stuff. The same type goods on any other vehicle > > > would be > > > priced much much less. So if you have a junk one laying around > > > and are > > > anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other out. > > > The > one > > > relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so > > > maybe we > > could > > > get a group run going. Any one??? > > > > > > Safe Flying to ya! > > > Steve McGee > > > Endeavor Wi. > > > Building a KR2S widened. > > > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:57:53 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Wheels and stuff Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <010301c3a733$a1047360$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 Well, I got the message; now what do I do? Apparently you couldn't understand Mark's message; He said OK, I'm going to turn into a jerk now and put on my KRnet adminstrator's hat. This thread should have "gone private" long ago. The email addresses are clearly listed so there's no excuse for not doing it. There's nothing in here that several hundred people need to read. And it flagrantly violates the one thing that I keep harping on, deleting previous posts when you reply to something. Check the bottom of the post...there are FIVE "KRnet instructions" at the bottom. I've asked repeatedly that people While you're learning to do the right thing, put your email address in your signature line, so you can get messages like this OFF THE NET Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Steve McGee PO box 17 439 Doyan St. Endeavor, Wi 53930 608-697-5354 - My cell - That way I know I will get the message. Kids you know. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:02:29 +1000 From: Gavin Donohoe To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Les Palmer Message-ID: <001201c3a737$19b8fee0$984d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 16 I finally got in touch with Les Palmer. What a nice Guy, He is going to post me off a whole bunch of info about the EJ22 conversion because he's talked me into using one instead of the EA81 Subaru in my KR. I know they're heavy but I'm light and so is my wife so I think It'll be ok. Gavin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:34:58 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: <20031110033458.75905.qmail@web21210.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3FAE2943.000007.01288@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 17 Thanks Dan, I checked it today and it seems to be curing ok. It's not tacky and is quite hard already. I use aeropoxy also.The work I am doing is not critical to any structure, just cosmetic, If it had been structurally important I would have waited for definite warm weather. Thanks for your answer, Rick Wilson. --- Dan Heath wrote: > RE: Can anyone tell me if the epoxy will setup > tomorrow when the > temperature gets back up to around 70-75, or will it > not cure at all? > > When the weather turns cold, you have to watch the > temps. When I know that > it is going to turn cold over night, and going to be > warm the next day, I > have been getting everything ready the night before > and getting up early to > do the layup the next day. > > The reason is, the epoxy needs to be sort of "kick > started". If it doesn't > get kicked early on in the process, it may take > weeks. I have found that > Aero Poxy does cure eventually, what you are using, > may not. > > When you look at it today, it will still be very > soft and by tonight, it > will not be tacky anymore, but will still be soft. > > Remember, your results will vary. > > N64KR > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the > pic > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:36:35 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>Replies Message-ID: <018901c3a73b$d78b1030$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 18 Ahh the evils of the habit of hitting the reply button. For those that = have some reason now to zap me and only me. Safe Flying to ya! Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:52:51 -0700 From: "Bob Sauer" To: "kr" Subject: KR>Spinner Message-ID: <00bc01c3a73e$1d4555c0$a43a3818@ph.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 19 Noticed that WW is using a 13" Vans Aircraft spinner on his 601 project. = Anyone using this on their KR2S or thinking about it. What spinner are = some of you using? Bob=20 From: resauer@cox.netFrom flesner@midwest.net Sun Nov 09 19:51:18 2003 Received: from epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.181]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJ35C-0001iq-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:51:18 -0800 Received: from dsc03-cir-oh-199-35-118-194.rasserver.net ([199.35.118.194] helo=larry-flesner) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AJ3A1-0005Pn-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:56:18 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20031109215012.0084ee70@pop.midwest.net> X-Sender: flesner@pop.midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:50:12 -0600 To: KRnet From: larry flesner In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20031109201321.0084fe70@pop.midwest.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: KR>Building wings/confused? X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: >As for holding the wing true, mark your cord lines on the inboard and >outboard ribs Larry Flesner +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It came to me in the shower that I've probably confused the entire KR building movement. I don't believe the plans call for a 48 inch rib at the inner end of outboard wing panel. That was something I added to make for easier building. That gave me a sanding guide on each end of the outer wing panel and I later filled in the gap between the stub wing and the outer wing panel. That is also what helped to take the flex out of the wing when removed with only one side glassed. SORRY ABOUT THAT! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:10:22 EST From: Ronevogt@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Les Palmer Message-ID: <1a9.1c83429e.2ce069ae@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 20 Gav: I think you made a good decision by choosing the EJ-22. I am certainly happy with mine. Today I made flights number 6 and 7. It might be a little over weight, but it really screams. RV ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:13:40 EST From: Ronevogt@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Spinner Message-ID: <7a.4a7d84ca.2ce06a74@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 21 I used a spinner off a Beech Baron...cut down to fit. Of course, I had to build a backing plate to hold it on. Most repair shops have broken spinner sitting around. They usually break near the base and can therefore be cut down to a smaller size and fitted to an experimental airplane. RV ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:18:28 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>Building wings off fuse Message-ID: <024e01c3a741$b157cce0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 22 I will be assaulting this issue also. My current plans are to make a = cherry picker style jig with mocked up wing attach fittings. Hopefully = this will allow the construction of both sides without removing, by = making the jig so the wing can be turned as if on a rotisserie. =20 Safe Flying to ya! Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:38:54 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>primer and paint Message-ID: References: <22854-3FAE7E92-1099@storefull-2194.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3FAE96DE.000003.00308@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 23 what is S/P ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Heath=20 To: krnet@mylist.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: KR>primer and paint RE: I plan to use S/P as the only primer.=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:46:09 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>primer and paint Message-ID: <023301c3a74d$f37ece00$4000a8c0@t1w419> References: <22854-3FAE7E92-1099@storefull-2194.public.lawson.webtv.net><3FAE96DE.000003.00308@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 24 SP is smooth prime, refer to original message in thread. Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia kr2@BigPond.com AUF Registered 19-3873 http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger mitchell" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: KR>primer and paint what is S/P ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:49:31 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: , "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane Message-ID: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 25 RON , if your very careful you can handle the wings with one = side,including leading edge glassed. I did both tops of the = wings,removed them and did the bottom,I build a rotersery to aid in tis = process,I would supply plans for the rotersery to any one interseted for = a tail wheel version. could you have room if you did one wing = at-a-time? =20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:24:49 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>KR logo Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 26 Does anyone have the KRNet logo we used for a couple years on the gathering hats and shirts as a file. It is the one with a KR ahead a red swosh going around the world. If possible, could someone send it too me. Thanks, Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "roger mitchell" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: ,"KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR>Building wings..Off the 'plane >Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:49:31 -0600 > >RON , if your very careful you can handle the wings with one side,including >leading edge glassed. I did both tops of the wings,removed them and did the >bottom,I build a rotersery to aid in tis process,I would supply plans for >the rotersery to any one interseted for a tail wheel version. could you >have room if you did one wing at-a-time? >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1 *************************************