From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 227, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Corner Radii of Aluminum from Rand-Robinson? (Scott Cable) 2. Re: Corner Radii of Aluminum from Rand-Robinson? (Mark Langford) 3. polyester/epoxy (Harold Woods) 4. Sorry (Colin) 5. Re: polyester/epoxy (Dan Heath) 6. Re: polyester/epoxy (Mike Turner) 7. Recommendation from Rick Wilson 8. Corvair aero engine for sale on Barnstormers (Rick Wilson) 9. Re: polyester/epoxy (Ron Eason) 10. You know you're almost done... (Mark Langford) 11. Re: Recommendation from Rick Wilson (Dan Heath) 12. Dave Mullins (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:17:18 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Corner Radii of Aluminum from Rand-Robinson? Message-ID: <20031121201718.75189.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Netters: A friend came over to look at my project and noticed that the extruded aluminum parts that make up the empenage surface hinges had very small corner radii. Because the previous owner had built or provided the stock for these parts, I naturally assumed that what he was using was from Rand Robinson. In fact when I called Jeanette, she remembered that the previous owner had in fact ordered pretty much everything you could order for a KR-2S. Which brings up the question: I noticed in the build manual that the radii depicted are either non-existant or less than .06. What are the corner radii for the RR supplied aluminum kit? ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:32:01 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Corner Radii of Aluminum from Rand-Robinson? Message-ID: <023001c3b06e$86f43bb0$1202a8c0@basement> References: <20031121201718.75189.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Scott Cable wrote: > What are the corner radii for the RR supplied aluminum kit? You're right, the radii on the material that I got are very small, even on the 2.5" x 4" x .125" firewall angle. If it makes you feel any better, there were a bunch of them built that way! I've always wondered why RR would supply stuff like that, when other material is available. I've always bought AL from Wicks or Shapiro Supply, with generous radii whenever possible... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:40 -0500 From: "Harold Woods" To: Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy Message-ID: <008501c3b06f$4ea41360$08ee6418@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 3 Hi Netter. I have spoken to several commercial boat builders about adding polyester = onto epoxy. There answer is NO. It wont stay stuck. Then what about epoxy onto polyester. There answer is again " no " but = in smaller letters. The claim is that vibration and flexing as in a boat = will cause the epoxy to seperate after 12 to 18 months. There is nothing = wrong with building a plane using polyester is you use the correct foam = etc and can stand the smell.=20 Essentially the impression that I got is dont mix the two. It is not = necessary . Harold Woods Orillia.ON.Canada haroldwoods@rogers.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 11/6/2003From tservaes@vfr.net Fri Nov 21 13:11:20 2003 Received: from miner.vfr.net ([207.212.212.133]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ANIYi-000FBV-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:11:20 -0800 Received: from vfr.net (host-66-81-49-129.rev.o1.com [66.81.49.129]) by miner.vfr.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id hALLGpq46328 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:16:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3FBE66F1.8010408@vfr.net> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:26:41 -0800 From: Todd Servaes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Lap belts References: <60.3835db3b.2ceecf97@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Hello Steve and KRNET, I know many (most) on the KRNET are building widened KR's and thus are not using Rand KR-2S pre molded turtle decks and instructions , but they do provide rollover structure. The arch at both the front edged of the turtle deck and the rear edge of the canopy are reinforced to act as rollover protection. Todd Servaes KR-2S FIXERJONES@aol.com wrote: >seatbelts are a must with sholder harness,,but no one so far has >addressed >roll over protection? the kr ( and alot of planes) have little if any support in >the event of flipping over upside down. the canopy&turtle deck willnot >support that kind of impact! i've installed a steel rollbar inside the turtledeck >where the canopy meets. hopefully it will help to keep my head&back ok in the >event of #@*%,,you know what i mean< >yea it's extra weight & worth it,,steve jones,,N212KR >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:51:10 -0500 From: "Colin" To: Subject: KR>Sorry Message-ID: <001a01c3b081$f55e65e0$f2452141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 4 Sorry all meant to go only to Dana. Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html Sanford, Florida KR Gathering 2004-see ya in Mt VernonFrom larry.capps@comcast.net Fri Nov 21 16:39:27 2003 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ANLo7-000HJw-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:39:27 -0800 Received: from schpankme (12-251-250-142.client.attbi.com[12.251.250.142]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112200445901500po5p0e>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:45:01 +0000 From: "Larry A Capps" To: "'KRnet'" Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:45:57 -0600 Message-ID: <000401c3b091$ff6d5e50$0200a8c0@schpankme> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <008501c3b06f$4ea41360$08ee6418@HAROLD> Importance: Normal Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: larry.capps@comcast.net, KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: DO NOT use polyester resin to build your KR (period) Polyester Resin, as stated below, cannot be properly bonded to/or with other adhesives. So the statement "There is nothing wrong with building a plane using polyester", has to be wrong on it's face. - Polyester Resin comes NO WHERE near having the strength of epoxy. Larry A Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- I have spoken to several commercial boat builders about polyester epoxy. There is nothing wrong with building a plane using polyester Essentially the impression that I got dont mix the two. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:57:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" , Subject: Re: KR>polyester/epoxy Message-ID: <3FBEB497.000001.00832@Computer> References: <000401c3b091$ff6d5e50$0200a8c0@schpankme> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 I read a very comprehensive article on a web site forwarded to the NET, recently, that states the opposite of that. He states that it is a very good filler and that he applies it over a micro and resin filler. One of the resins that he uses if West Systems.=0D =0D This can get very confusing.=0D =0D Is SuperFill an Epoxy? All I know is that it is two part. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: larry.capps@comcast.net; KRnet=0D Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:52:40 PM=0D To: 'KRnet'=0D Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy=0D =0D DO NOT use polyester resin to build your KR (period)=0D =0D Polyester Resin, as stated below, cannot be properly bonded to/or with ot= her=0D adhesives.=0D =0D So the statement "There is nothing wrong with building a plane using=0D polyester", has to be wrong on it's face.=0D =0D - Polyester Resin comes NO WHERE near having the strength of epoxy.=0D =0D =0D Larry A Capps=0D Naperville, IL=0D =0D =0D =0D -----Original Message-----=0D =0D I have spoken to several commercial boat builders=0D about=0D =0D polyester=0D epoxy.=0D =0D There is nothing wrong with building a plane using=0D polyester=0D =0D Essentially the impression that I got=0D dont mix the two.=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom larry.capps@comcast.net Fri Nov 21 17:15:33 2003 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ANMN3-000HvB-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:15:33 -0800 Received: from schpankme (12-251-250-142.client.attbi.com[12.251.250.142]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112201210701500premae>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:21:07 +0000 From: "Larry A Capps" To: "KR Builders List \(E-mail\)" Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:22:07 -0600 Message-ID: <000701c3b097$0badb6b0$0200a8c0@schpankme> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <3FBEB497.000001.00832@Computer> Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: larry.capps@comcast.net, KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: So, you were able to find a great article shouting the benefits of using Polyester putty as a filler and top coat/glaze. Lets complete this learning experience, maybe you'd like to search and also discover the negatives of using said Polyester putty. After all, you owe it to yourself and those now puzzled to disclose the whole story, RIGHT? Larry A Capps Naperville, IL "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you." -----Original Message----- I read a very comprehensive article that states it is a very good filler and that he applies it over a micro and resin filler. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:18:15 -0600 From: "Mike Turner" To: "KRnet" , Subject: Re: KR>polyester/epoxy Message-ID: References: <000401c3b091$ff6d5e50$0200a8c0@schpankme> <3FBEB497.000001.00832@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 It is my understanding that there are three types of resins, polyester, = vinalester and epoxy resin. Epoxy resins will not bond to polyester = products but will bond to vinal-ester "sort of". The same applies to = polyester products not bonding to epoxy products but will bond to = vinal-ester products "sort of". So what you have is vinal-ester which = will bond to both. So according to theory if you want to bond polyester = to an epoxy product you would have to use a vinal-ester layer between = the two products. This would not be as strong a bond as epoxy to epoxy = or polyester to polyester because of the makeup of the molecules = involved. Think of a vinal-ester molecule as being 1/2 poly-ester and = 1/2 epoxy therefore you will get only half of the bonding strength. The above is based on information from "Fiberglass Composite = materials" written by Forbes Aird Mike Turner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan Heath=20 To: krnet@mylist.net ; larry.capps@comcast.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: Re: KR>polyester/epoxy I read a very comprehensive article on a web site forwarded to the = NET, recently, that states the opposite of that. He states that it is a = very good filler and that he applies it over a micro and resin filler. One = of the resins that he uses if West Systems. This can get very confusing. Is SuperFill an Epoxy? All I know is that it is two part.=20 =20 N64KR =20 Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC =20 DanRH@KR-Builder.org =20 See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering =20 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org =20 -------Original Message------- =20 From: larry.capps@comcast.net; KRnet Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:52:40 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy =20 DO NOT use polyester resin to build your KR (period) =20 Polyester Resin, as stated below, cannot be properly bonded to/or with = other adhesives. =20 So the statement "There is nothing wrong with building a plane using polyester", has to be wrong on it's face. =20 - Polyester Resin comes NO WHERE near having the strength of epoxy. =20 =20 Larry A Capps Naperville, IL =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- =20 I have spoken to several commercial boat builders about =20 polyester epoxy. =20 There is nothing wrong with building a plane using polyester =20 Essentially the impression that I got dont mix the two. =20 =20 _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ._______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:33:55 -0800 From: rwdw2002@yahoo.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson Message-ID: <200311220233.hAM2Xtet020099@redbaron.barnstormers.com> Precedence: list Message: 7 Rick Wilson recommends the following Barnstormers classified ad (click on link) http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=20046 This ad is on Barnstormers AOL users, use this link: http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=20046 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:39:44 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Corvair aero engine for sale on Barnstormers Message-ID: <20031122023944.34323.qmail@web21205.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 Hi, I just saw this ad on barnstormers and thought someone might be interested. It is a nice looking Corvair engine for sale. 100 H.P. Thanks, Rick Wilson. ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:34:16 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" To: , "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>polyester/epoxy Message-ID: <008301c3b0a9$81fba4a0$6501a8c0@Administration> References: <000701c3b097$0badb6b0$0200a8c0@schpankme> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 I have used polyester fillers [on cars and Corvettes with resins] and you can always tell by the smell [resin or fillers like Black Magic ]. So if it smells it polyester. Polyester is for cars or boats, epoxy is for higher stress fabrication {planes], it's stronger and has more temperature strength. However, you can build a weaker plane if you wont, but don't mix them in laminated areas. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A Capps" To: "KR Builders List (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy > So, you were able to find a great article shouting the benefits of > using Polyester putty as a filler and top coat/glaze. Lets complete > this learning > experience, maybe you'd like to search and also discover the negatives > of using said Polyester putty. After all, you owe it to yourself and > those now > puzzled to disclose the whole story, RIGHT? > > Larry A Capps > Naperville, IL > > "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be > misquoted, then used against you." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > I read a very comprehensive article > that states > it is a very good filler and that he > applies it over a micro and resin filler. > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:07:29 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>You know you're almost done... Message-ID: <047101c3b0b6$8765ad70$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 ...when your pile of spruce is downright tiny, consisting only of wierd stuff that you ordered way after the Spruce Kit, and you haven't touched it in two years, and it's as small as mine ( http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/woodpile.jpg ). I've been on some kind of inexplicable bizarre organization frenzy for the last few weeks, expanding attic storage area, and moving basement stuff up there to become relics. Now that it's finally all straightened out, I'm back on the KR job. Other than some last-minute priming/painting (75 degrees tomorrow), the next big goal is to get ready to try out Steve Makish's 52 x 66 Sterba prop and see how fast I can turn it, so I'm going to finish up the engine installation. It's already been run at the 2002 Corvair College ( http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/cc2002/ ), so I'm not too far away. I just want to capture the feeling that Jones had when I took the picture at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/images/mjtaxi.jpg . The meager scraps of spruce will have to make room for something else... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:44:24 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson Message-ID: <3FBF4C18.000007.00832@Computer> References: <200311220233.hAM2Xtet020099@redbaron.barnstormers.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 Anybody know why Dave is selling his engine? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:43:53 PM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson=0D =0D Rick Wilson recommends the following Barnstormers classified ad (click on link)=0D =0D http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=3D20046=0D =0D This ad is on Barnstormers=0D =0D AOL users, use this link:=0D =0D http://www barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=3D20046=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom DanRH@alltel.net Sat Nov 22 03:57:51 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ANWOc-0000Ek-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:57:50 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.95.136]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031122120325.TKCO11508.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 06:03:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FBF5092.000009.00832@Computer> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:03:30 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <000701c3b097$0badb6b0$0200a8c0@schpankme> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: "krnet@mylist.net" , Subject: Re: KR>polyester/epoxy Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: http://curedcomposites.netfirms.com/finish.html=0D =0D You know, none of this stuff is bad or good and all of it is bad and good= =2E=20 If you don't use the right stuff for the job, it is bad anyway you cut it= =2E=20 Here is a small piece of the article that can be found in the link above.= =0D =0D Don=92t go crazy if you have a few deeper nicks left here and there, and = don=92t sand flat spots or dips into your surface in order to get rid of them. Th= ey will be filled instead. =0D =0D For this last filling use polyester based "glazing putty" (auto paint supplies) This is very smooth creamy filler designed for minor imperfecti= ons Before you start filling go over the whole surface carefully and mark al= l imperfections to be filled with a pencil so you don=92t have too look for= them while your mixed putty is curing. Mix the glazing filler in small batches= , it has very short pot life so you have only a few minutes on each batch. Squeegee it on with a small metal spatula and scrape off any excess. Wet sand the spots after they cure and you are done. =0D =0D =0D Please read this and then decide for yourself. I am not shouting the pro= s or cons of any of this, because I really don't know. I do have some polyester filler and am trying it in small spots, for filler only. My experience with trying to bond to things made with Vinyl has not been goo= d, but you have no choice if you are using such pre-molded parts.=0D =0D This person shows that he has done a lot more work in this area than I ha= ve, and maybe than you have. At least it is worth considering. The polyeste= r filler, according to my paint person, does have some advantages over some= of the other fillers. I am not sure, and therefore am proceeding with cauti= on. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: larry.capps@comcast.net; KRnet=0D Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:21:26 PM=0D Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy=0D =0D So, you were able to find a great article shouting the benefits of using=0D Polyester putty as a filler and top coat/glaze. Lets complete this learni= ng=0D experience, maybe you'd like to search and also discover the negatives of= =0D using said Polyester putty.=20From N323XL@comcast.net Sat Nov 22 04:57:15 2003 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ANXK7-00016O-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:57:15 -0800 Received: from comcast.net (h00501800bd0d.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.34.212.212]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031122130249016003vpmoe> (Authid: N323XL); Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:02:49 +0000 Message-ID: <3FBF6008.8070905@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:09:28 -0500 From: David Mullins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson References: <200311220233.hAM2Xtet020099@redbaron.barnstormers.com> <3FBF4C18.000007.00832@Computer> In-Reply-To: <3FBF4C18.000007.00832@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Why don't you just ask the horses mouth? ME This is an extra engine for my use. I originally made this one for a second project. Now I am building two 3100cc engines, one direct drive for the KR and one with a 2.09:1 planetary redrive for the next project. I had saved up the money to do the machine work on the two 3100cc engines, Because I was given two weeks unscheduled vacation from my current employer two months ago, I had to use the money to pay my bills. This has made me sell the first engine so that I can pay for the machine work for the other two. Dave Mullins Dan Heath wrote: >Anybody know why Dave is selling his engine? > > > >N64KR > > > >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > >DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > >See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > >-------Original Message------- > > > >From: KRnet > >Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:43:53 PM > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Subject: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson > > > >Rick Wilson recommends the following Barnstormers classified ad (click >on >link) > > > >http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=20046 > > > >This ad is on Barnstormers > > > >AOL users, use this link: > > > >http://www >barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=20046 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > >._______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:14:00 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>Dave Mullins Message-ID: <3FBF6118.00000B.00832@Computer> References: <3FBF6008.8070905@comcast.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 12 Well, Dave, I would have, if I had your address. Also, since I didn't he= ar if it from the horses mouth, I did not know if it was still around. I wa= s just concerned about the horse and am glad to know that it is still aroun= d.=0D =0D That's gonna be a mighty powerful engine. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:03:10 AM=0D To: KRnet=0D Subject: Re: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson=0D =0D Why don't you just ask the horses mouth? ME=0D =0D This is an extra engine for my use. I originally made this one for a=0D second project.=0D Now I am building two 3100cc engines, one direct drive for the KR and one= =0D with a 2.09:1 planetary redrive for the next project. I had saved up the=0D money=0D to do the machine work on the two 3100cc engines, Because I was given=0D two weeks=0D unscheduled vacation from my current employer two months ago, I had to=0D use the=0D money to pay my bills. This has made me sell the first engine so that I=0D can pay for=0D the machine work for the other two.=0D =0D Dave Mullins=0D =0D =0D Dan Heath wrote:=0D =0D >Anybody know why Dave is selling his engine?=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >N64KR=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D >=0D >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >-------Original Message-------=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >From: KRnet=0D >=0D >Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:43:53 PM=0D >=0D >To: krnet@mylist.net=0D >=0D >Subject: KR>Recommendation from Rick Wilson=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >Rick Wilson recommends the following Barnstormers classified ad (click >o= n=0D >link)=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=3D20046=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >This ad is on Barnstormers=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >AOL users, use this link:=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >href=3D"http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=3D20046">http://ww= w=0D >barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=3D20046=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D >_______________________________________________=0D >=0D >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D >=0D >._______________________________________________=0D >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2E------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 227, Issue 1 *************************************