From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:49 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 235, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Mosler VW (Bill Pleso) 2. Re: Fw: New electronic multi-function display (larry severson) 3. Re: hoaky foam spar (cgardn628) 4. Re: Fw: New electronic multi-function display (cgardn628) 5. Wing Skins fitted/ weight and balance (Phil Matheson) 6. STUCK! (Colin) 7. someone? (larry severson) 8. Re: someone? (Mark Langford) 9. Re: TANKS IN OUTER WINGS 10. Re: someone? (Jim Morehead) 11. Hello Any builders flyers in my ares (ricksilvia) 12. weight and balance (larry flesner) 13. ME (Justin) 14. Justin (Colin) 15. My website - getting to know us. (Steve and Lori McGee) 16. Re: My website - getting to know us. (Bob Stone) 17. Re: My website - getting to know us. (Steve and Lori McGee) 18. Re: Justin (Dennis Mingear) 19. Justins seats (Bob Glidden) 20. Re: Justin (Dennis Mingear) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:15:57 -0500 From: "Bill Pleso" To: Subject: KR>Mosler VW Message-ID: <005301c3b6b5$99d19190$d71b6544@pleso> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Even though the plane I am building is not a KR, I have gotten a lot of = good info from this site. If there is anyone running a Mosler (VW = conversion), particularly an 82X, would you please contact me off-line, = as I have a number of questions. This engine came with an unfinished = Kitfox. Thank you Bill bill77@cox.net DO NOT ARCHIVE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:18:33 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Fw: New electronic multi-function display Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129121800.024a8450@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <095201c3b6ab$cfb2a4c0$1202a8c0@basement> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129095348.0248dd98@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 You are right, and thank you. >He said EIS, not EFIS, and I believe he said in the previous message >that he got it from Grand Rapids Technologies, at >http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/enginfosys/ . Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:51:10 -0500 From: "cgardn628" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>hoaky foam spar Message-ID: <002601c3b6cb$488c5ac0$6501a8c0@mdgwd52jlrmc3l> References: <000c01c3b5da$f621bcd0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><001401c3b613$261a2f70$2402a8c0@800Athlon><001301c3b629$6c5db220$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <091001c3b631$436178e0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Good idea ! That's exactly what I did on my standard KR2S , Mark. I ordered the spar material long enough to go right to the end (91" front/92" rear) and omitted the "kluggee" foam extentions. Also dumped the 33" wing rib for a continuous line to the end rib ( 29 "), when sanding the foam . It's the best way to build a strong wing . Cheers Chris Gardiner KR2S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:28 PM Subject: KR>hoaky foam spar > It's been a few years since I brought this up, but the hoaky foam spar > extensions that are added to the KR2 spars to make them KR2S spars > just doesn't sit right with me. I feel sure that was the result of > somebody trying to use spar material (and wood kits) that were already > called out for > the KR2, rather than structural or common sense integrity. Not that they're > not structurally sound (there's not much load out there, but there are > plenty of opportunities to screw it up), but just as a matter of > keeping things straight. It's hard to beat a nice spar for > straightness. It'd be a > shame to stick some junk on the end of it and give a joggle or a > discontinuity. > > If I were building a new KR2S I'd just buy the spar material 12" > longer than > the plans call for dump the 33" template, going with the next one in > line, the 30.67" template at the new end of the spar, and dispense > with the foam/glass kludge job. In fact, the AS504X templates already > have a phantom > spar and dimensions for the spar if it's extended to that point... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:57:21 -0500 From: "cgardn628" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Fw: New electronic multi-function display Message-ID: <003801c3b6cc$25564420$6501a8c0@mdgwd52jlrmc3l> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 I agree with you , Dana . The Dynon unit is pretty slick . It also acts as the blind encoder input for your transponder as well. More money saved. Cheers Chris Gardiner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: Re: KR>Fw: New electronic multi-function display > >From: "Dan Heath" > >Dana, > > > >Is that your EIS to the right of the EFIS? What are the round instruments > >that are in your Panel? > > > Dan, in this picture http://rvflying.tripod.com/panel.jpg the EIS > system is > the rectangular faceplate just to the right of the altimeter, upper > center of the panel. I paid a litte less than $1000 for the unit with > all probes, > electrical wiring, harnesses, D subs and the like to measure RPM, MP, > OAT, fuel flow, fuel level, carb temp.,4 CHTs, 4 EGTs, oil pressure, > oil temp plus some other things my coffee deprived brain cannot think > of right now:-) > If I'm not mistaken, Landford is using an EIS system. I would care > to say, there are thousands of these is homebuilts. > > Since I will be flying this airplane IFR, I went ahead and put in an > altimeter, airspeed and VSI for redundancy with the Dynon. In > addition the > lower left round instrument is a switchable GPS/NAV head, also > required for > enroute and approach. By doing this I can shoot, GPS,ILS,LOC and > overlay approaches using the uncluttered layout. > > If VFR, I'd put the Dynon in, the EIS, radio and be done with it. I > think I > would consider intalling capacitive sending plates in a KR tank and > BNC them > to the EIS system for a no moving parts, reliable sending and > measuring fuel > level indication method and go fly. > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra > Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:42:48 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" To: "KR Builder & Pilots" Subject: KR>Wing Skins fitted/ weight and balance Message-ID: <00ff01c3b61a$2a5abb20$4e97dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 Hi all, Today I fitted both top wing skins. I have wing tanks, and now keeping = my fingers crossed that the tanks are sealed. ( looking good) As per = Dan Diehl instructions.=20 I have removed the old H/S stabiliser and made a new one with 12 inches = more span and 1 inch more cord, and it weighs the same as the old heavy = one, 7.5 lbs. as well as almost finished the elevator. I'm going to make a set brackets the bolt to the WAF so I can lift the = plane off the ground, so I can play with the w&b the same as model = aircraft. I visited the Cobra aircraft factory some time back, and they = had their Cobra hanging from the roof on Cof G brackets, and modifying = the engine mounts to adjust the W&B. worked great. So you can move = everthing around and really see what it does to the actual balance of = the aircraft. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/From JEHayward@aol.com Sat Nov 29 15:55:45 2003 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.99]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQEwC-0006rT-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:55:44 -0800 Received: from JEHayward@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id g.1e5.1483c6de (4426) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:43:24 -0500 (EST) From: JEHayward@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5.1483c6de.2cfa891c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:43:24 EST Subject: Re: KR>Fw: New electronic multi-function display To: krnet@mylist.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: In a message dated 11/29/03 6:13:57 AM Mountain Standard Time, bo124rs@hotmail.com writes: << If VFR, I'd put the Dynon in, the EIS, radio and be done with it. I think I would consider intalling capacitive sending plates in a KR tank and BNC them to the EIS system for a no moving parts, reliable sending and measuring fuel level indication method and go fly. >> Dana, FYI, a lot of us use the EIS in our ultralights. Don't know if you'll be burning strictly avgas or not but those of us who have the capacitance probes find a difference in fuel level if switching to avgas on a cross country instead of mogas like we usually use locally. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:24:47 -0500 From: "Colin" To: Subject: KR>STUCK! Message-ID: <001501c3b6e0$be5002b0$f2452141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 Ok Netters, Please help. I am stuck. Wiring is all complete for both radio and = transponder and I am terrible at making the connections to the antennas! = I have messed up 2 and that tells me to let someone else do it. Is = there any source for pre-made cables in specified lengths, so that I can = order a couple and have quality connections? I need both to have the 90 = degree ends for the 2 avionics, and then one needs to have the BNC end = for the transponder antenna, while the other I will cut off for direct = connection to the antenna in the vertical stab. Thanks a million in = advance. =20 Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html Sanford, Florida KR Gathering 2004-see ya in Mt VernonFrom bo124rs@hotmail.com Sat Nov 29 18:34:07 2003 Received: from bay10-f102.bay10.hotmail.com ([64.4.37.102] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQHPT-00083Z-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:34:07 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:21:49 -0800 Received: from 64.12.96.11 by by10fd.bay10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:21:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.12.96.11] X-Originating-Email: [bo124rs@hotmail.com] From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Bcc: Subject: Re: KR>Fw: New electronic multi-function display Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:21:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 02:21:49.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5F69590:01C3B6E8] X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: >From: "cgardn628" >I agree with you , Dana . The Dynon unit is pretty slick . > >It also acts as the blind encoder input for your transponder as well. >More money saved. > >Cheers > >Chris Gardiner Yep, forgot that part of it. The Dynon sends it data as "gray code". Most transponders will accept either gray code or RS232. Although the instrument has a square face the body is round and fits into a standard instrument hole. Be nice to Santa.................. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:48:27 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: KR>someone? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184604.024ed630@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <001501c3b6e0$be5002b0$f2452141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 I am getting a anti-spam query from bruiser@attg.net re my message KR2 plans asking me to validate. I have not had this before, and don't reply to such messages. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:54:38 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>someone? Message-ID: <005701c3b6ed$4d472b40$1202a8c0@basement> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184604.024ed630@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Larry Severson wrote: > I am getting a anti-spam query from bruiser@attg.net re my message KR2 > plans asking me to validate. I have not had this before, and don't > reply to > such messages. Everybody that posts to KRnet has been getting this message from him. I've unsubscribed him. This kind of scheme doesn't work when it inconveniences 400 people... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:57:03 EST From: BABYWOLF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS Message-ID: <155.287b5916.2cfab67f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 kr premolded wing skins state that they have gas tanks in outer wings ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:10:39 -0800 From: Jim Morehead To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>someone? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184604.024ed630@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Larry, I received the same anti-spam query and I deleted it. Does anyone know where this is coming from? Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA Jim Morehead on 11/29/03 6:48 PM, larry severson at larry2@socal.rr.com wrote: > I am getting a anti-spam query from bruiser@attg.net re my message KR2 > plans asking me to validate. I have not had this before, and don't > reply to such messages. > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:28:08 -0800 From: "ricksilvia" To: Subject: KR>Hello Any builders flyers in my ares Message-ID: <002c01c3b6f1$fb448090$5ad8120c@Oren> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 Hello Are there any KR2 builders/flying planes in the north central Idaho = area near Lewiston, Idaho. Rick Williams ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:54:45 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>weight and balance Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031129225445.007fd710@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <00ff01c3b61a$2a5abb20$4e97dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12 >I'm going to make a set brackets the bolt to the WAF so I can lift the plane off the ground, so I can play with the w&b the same as model aircraft. I visited the Cobra aircraft factory some time back, and they had their Cobra hanging from the roof on Cof G brackets, and modifying the engine mounts to adjust the W&B. worked great. So you can move everthing around and really see what it does to the actual balance of the aircraft. >Phil Matheson ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Phil, If you use a good set of scales to weigh the aircraft and get an accurate measurement to different points on the aircraft, you can do the same thing with a pencil and paper in the comfort of your home. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:25:35 -0800 From: "Justin" To: Subject: KR>ME Message-ID: <003201c3b713$258a0610$47da1818@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 13 To the group: I'd like to apoligize to the group for my inappropriate behavior. = Thanks to Dan for apoligizing and lots of thanks to Mark Jones who = always talks positive towards me and understands my standings.Also = thanks to Jeff,Larry,Barry for supporting me. Take a peak at my FIXED website with nothing offensive and hoping = that I can get back onto the KR net website listings. Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/HomeFrom DanRH@alltel.net Sun Nov 30 04:34:18 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQQmI-000A7r-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 04:34:18 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.95.136]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031130122200.UBVO11508.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer>; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:22:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FC9E0ED.000001.01796@Computer> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:22:05 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <000e01c3b739$31a631a0$b3aaf1c3@m1y6b0> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: "Marcel Driessen (E-mail)" Cc: "krnet@mylist.net" Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Re: Website Update - By Marcel Driessen X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Marcel,=0D =0D You are building a beautiful plane. All of your work is so clean and loo= ks very precise. I love it.=0D =0D Netters,=0D =0D See Marcel's message and link to his site below. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Marcel Driessen=0D Date: Sunday, November 30, 2003 6:58:57 AM=0D To: Dan Heath=0D Subject: Website Update=0D =0D Hi Dan,=0D =0D I informed you about my project status in February this year and I now wo= uld like to inform you about the fact that I updated my website (at last).=0D =0D If you like you can take a look at : http://home.wish.net/~driessen2/=0D =0D Since I was a KR-Net-member some years ago, please pass the information about the update to the folks on the KR-Net.=0D =0D I am what you could call a "read-only KR-Netter". I read the archives alm= ost daily (just the messages wich are interessting !).=0D I have been a KR-Net member for some time in the past but decide to unsubscribe as my mailbox started to overflow with messages.=0D =0D Btw: I just looked at your website : nice upholstery job !=0D =0D Thanks and regards,=0D =0D =0D Marcel Driessen=0D KR-Builder from The Netherlands=0D =0D =0D =0D =20From asiruss@702com.net Sun Nov 30 05:12:08 2003 Received: from minas-morgul.702com.net ([216.239.0.93]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQRMu-000AGL-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 05:12:08 -0800 Received: from [216.239.10.48] by minas-morgul.702com.com (NTMail 7.01.0023/KW6603.00.19d4e18f) with ESMTP id fejqukba for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:56:42 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01c3b742$2cb43d00$0200a8c0@D2M43L01> From: "Russ Fenlason" To: "KRnet" References: <001501c3b6e0$be5002b0$f2452141@Beverly> Subject: Re: KR>STUCK! Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:02:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-VSMLoop: 702com.com X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Collin: Try some of the HAM opperators in your area. They are usually quite helpful and seem to know what they are doing with antennas.They also know where to get the elbows etc. that you need.. Russ Breckenridge,MN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:36:47 -0500 From: "Colin" To: Subject: KR>Justin Message-ID: <002001c3b74f$6296b850$f2452141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 As promised, I apologize also Justin; you already know the reference. I = am proud of you, and willing to welcome you back home if the others = agree. Remember we are here for everyone's benefit! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html Sanford, Florida KR Gathering 2004-see ya in Mt VernonFrom flykr2s@wi.rr.com Sun Nov 30 07:14:28 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.166.129]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQTHI-000BE6-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:14:28 -0800 Received: from mark (CPE-65-31-81-78.wi.rr.com [65.31.81.78]) by ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id hAUF27sj024885 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:02:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01c3b753$086f8240$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" References: <003201c3b713$258a0610$47da1818@computer> Subject: Re: KR>ME Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:02:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Ahhh...to be young again and have such great people as we have here on the net for guidance. Thanks for the apology Justin. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To the group: I'd like to apoligize to the group for my inappropriate behavior. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:46:37 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>My website - getting to know us. Message-ID: <001501c3b759$239251f0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 15 I realized that I have not formerly introduced myself and family to you = the KR group. Here is our website, though there is currently nothing on = the plane there yet. I wll have to get to that. Also it is a little = dated by about 3 years, the biggest change the age of the children and = my baby (motorcycle) having been custom painted black with my lady on = the side in blue airbrush. Hope to make it to the gathering in = Illinois this year as it is not far, even without a plane. Steve, Lori, Autumn, Brooke and Forest. http://www.geocities.com/magoosus/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:43:54 -0600 From: "Bob Stone" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>My website - getting to know us. Message-ID: <000e01c3b761$24f5b8e0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> References: <001501c3b759$239251f0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Steve & Lori McGee Welcome to the KRNet, the most informative tool that exists for builders of KR series aircraft. We would get to know you even faster and better if you would tell us what you are building and when you close out your messages tell us where you live in the world. We have members like 600 plus all over the world. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com Former builder KR-1 & KR-2 (Now medicaly grounded) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: KR>My website - getting to know us. I realized that I have not formerly introduced myself and family to you the KR group. Here is our website, though there is currently nothing on the plane there yet. I wll have to get to that. Also it is a little dated by about 3 years, the biggest change the age of the children and my baby (motorcycle) having been custom painted black with my lady on the side in blue airbrush. Hope to make it to the gathering in Illinois this year as it is not far, even without a plane. Steve, Lori, Autumn, Brooke and Forest. http://www.geocities.com/magoosus/ _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:06:21 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>My website - getting to know us. Message-ID: <000901c3b764$477553f0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> References: <001501c3b759$239251f0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <000e01c3b761$24f5b8e0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 That would be: Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Stone" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: KR>My website - getting to know us. > Steve & Lori McGee > Welcome to the KRNet, the most informative tool that exists for > builders of KR series aircraft. We would get to know you even faster > and better if you would tell us what you are building and when you > close out your messages tell us where you live in the world. We have > members like 600 > plus all over the world. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > rstone4@hot.rr.com > Former builder KR-1 & KR-2 > (Now medicaly grounded) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:46 AM > Subject: KR>My website - getting to know us. > > > I realized that I have not formerly introduced myself and family to > you the > KR group. Here is our website, though there is currently nothing on > the plane there yet. I wll have to get to that. Also it is a little > dated by about 3 years, the biggest change the age of the children and > my baby > (motorcycle) having been custom painted black with my lady on the side in > blue airbrush. Hope to make it to the gathering in Illinois this year as > it is not far, even without a plane. > > Steve, Lori, Autumn, Brooke and Forest. > > http://www.geocities.com/magoosus/ > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:10:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Mingear To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Justin Message-ID: <20031130171046.5379.qmail@web12605.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <002001c3b74f$6296b850$f2452141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18 No one in this group can say that they haven't grown through their errors. Life is like that and I definitely believe that everyone deserves a chance to learn through doing, even when doing bad things occasionally. I agree with Colin ... Denny Colin wrote: As promised, I apologize also Justin; you already know the reference. I am proud of you, and willing to welcome you back home if the others agree. Remember we are here for everyone's benefit! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html Sanford, Florida KR Gathering 2004-see ya in Mt Vernon_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it nowFrom dennismingear@yahoo.com Sun Nov 30 09:25:45 2003 Received: from web12603.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.226]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQVKL-000C9t-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:25:45 -0800 Message-ID: <20031130171329.26403.qmail@web12603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.4.74.165] by web12603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:13:29 PST Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:13:29 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR>STUCK! To: KRnet In-Reply-To: <000b01c3b742$2cb43d00$0200a8c0@D2M43L01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Where are you located Colin? I'm a Ham willing to help! I specialize in noise suppression and antenna or load analysis and power matching. Denny ... Russ Fenlason wrote: Collin: Try some of the HAM opperators in your area. They are usually quite helpful and seem to know what they are doing with antennas.They also know where to get the elbows etc. that you need.. Russ Breckenridge,MN _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it nowFrom jmw116@socal.rr.com Sun Nov 30 09:30:32 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-02-qfe0.socal.rr.com ([66.75.162.134] helo=ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AQVOy-000CDf-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:30:32 -0800 Received: from computer (cpe-24-24-218-71.socal.rr.com [24.24.218.71]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id hAUHIGiF006220 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:18:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000801c3b765$ef6af550$47da1818@computer> From: "Justin" To: "KRnet" References: <20031130171046.5379.qmail@web12605.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: KR>Justin Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:18:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Tanks Dennis, Take a look at my website here, you can see my new seats. Came from a 150, racing style and light as can be! with both seats I should be under 5lbs total. http://www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/kr2s Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Mingear" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: KR>Justin > No one in this group can say that they haven't grown through their > errors. Life is like that and I definitely believe that everyone deserves a chance to learn through doing, even when doing bad things occasionally. > > I agree with Colin ... Denny > > Colin wrote: > As promised, I apologize also Justin; you already know the reference. > I am proud of you, and willing to welcome you back home if the others agree. Remember we are here for everyone's benefit! > > Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html > Sanford, Florida > KR Gathering 2004-see ya in Mt Vernon_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:24:56 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Bob Glidden" To: "Krnet" Subject: KR>Justins seats Message-ID: <3FCA27E8.000003.00836@COMPUTER1> Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_KPD6G6G0000000000000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 19 --------------Boundary-00=_KPD6G6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Justin =0D They are nice looking seats.How high is the turtle deck going to have to = be once the center spars are in?=0D =0D Bob Glidden=0D KR2S N181FW=0D glidden@ccrtc.com --------------Boundary-00=_KPD6G6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:30:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Mingear To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Justin Message-ID: <20031130173003.7579.qmail@web12605.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <000801c3b765$ef6af550$47da1818@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 20 Nice Justin! These came out of a C150? Is that a typo, 5 pounds? They will certainly make for a very professional looking interior when done. Denny ... Justin wrote: Tanks Dennis, Take a look at my website here, you can see my new seats. Came from a 150, racing style and light as can be! with both seats I should be under 5lbs total. http://www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/kr2s Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it nowFrom n56ml@hiwaay.net Sun Nov 30 09:49:04 2003 Received: from smtp5.knology.net ([24.236.126.2]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AQVgu-000CUy-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:49:04 -0800 Received: (qmail 8810 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2003 17:36:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO basement) (24.214.88.148) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 30 Nov 2003 17:36:47 -0000 Message-ID: <00d701c3b768$e7e8c7a0$1202a8c0@basement> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" References: <20031130171046.5379.qmail@web12605.mail.yahoo.com> <000801c3b765$ef6af550$47da1818@computer> Subject: Re: KR>Justin's seats Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:39:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Justin wrote: > Take a look at my website here, you can see my new seats. Came > from a 150, racing style and light as can be! with both seats I should > be under 5lbs total. http://www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/kr2s Not to burst anybody's bubble, but it appears as though the rear spar will have to be completely cut away to mount the seats like that. The rear spar is the limiting factor in KR seating, as that's as far back as your butt can possibly go. If you sit on top of the rear spar, you'll be forced to add about 7" to the height of your canopy. If you put those seats in front of the spar, you'll give up a lot of leg room. Might need to mock up a rear spar in your fuselage before you get too serious about mounting those. They look marvelous though... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 235, Issue 1 *************************************