From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:01 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 240, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. another source for VW parts (Ron Eason) 2. Outbd Fwd Spars KR2S 3. RE: Lucite (Ron Freiberger) 4. Using the AS5046 templates (Les Criscillo) 5. Re: Outbd Fwd Spars KR2S (B. Wunder) 6. crosswinds (j stevens) 7. carbs, one more time (Dan Root) 8. Re: carbs, one more time (Mark Langford) 9. Re: Using the AS5046 templates (Mark Langford) 10. Re: Lucite (Peg and Mike Meyer) 11. Final Inspection Soon (Scott Cable) 12. Re: Lucite (Bob Stone) 13. Fuel pumps (Rick Wilson) 14. Re: Lucite 15. Fuel pumps/pressure regulator (larry flesner) 16. Lucite - plexiglass-lexan - CANOPY FORMING (Steve and Lori McGee) 17. Acrylic source (Steve and Lori McGee) 18. Re: H/S spars strenght (Phillip Matheson) 19. Re: Acrylic source (Dan Heath) 20. DHL pics. (Dana Overall) 21. Re: Fuel pumps/pressure regulator 22. RE: Lucite (Wright, JD Dave (6865) @ IS) 23. RE: Fuel pumps/pressure regulator (Wright, JD Dave (6865) @ IS) 24. Re: Fuel pumps/pressure regulator (Scott Cable) 25. Re: DHL pics. (cartera) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:48:55 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>another source for VW parts Message-ID: <000b01c3baa8$0937f4c0$6501a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3BA75.BE125BC0" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3BA75.BE125BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI http://www.aircooled.net/, www.lnengineering.com,=20 Ron ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3BA75.BE125BC0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Ronald R. Eason Sr..vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Eason Sr.;Ronald;R. FN:Ronald R. Eason Sr. NICKNAME:Ron ORG:J.R.L. 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X-WAB-GENDER:2 URL;WORK:http://jrl-engineering.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ron@jrl-engineering.com REV:20031204T204855Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3BA75.BE125BC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:33:20 EST From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Outbd Fwd Spars KR2S Message-ID: <1d5.15d39534.2d010220@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Right now I am building my outbd fwd spars. I don't understand drawing no. 17 where it shows a 12 1/2" piece of plywood being glued to the fwd face of the spar. When I tapered my spar caps for the outbd spars it says not to taper until 7" . How is the plywood on the fwd face fit at the root If the taper starts 7" out? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:34:34 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Lucite Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1d3.157f507b.2d00bdb6@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Yes, Lucite is the material of choice for windows and windshields. It is not as strong as glass. Lexan scratches easily. And, don't get ant high solvent materials around the Lucite, such as some aerosol spray paints. Make sure the stuff from Lowe's is Lucite (methyl methacrylate) and NOT Styrene. Ron Freiberger mailto: r.freiberger at earthlink.net r dot freiberger.... get it? -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+r.freiberger=earthlink.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+r.freiberger=earthlink.net@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:41 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Lucite I am considering using Lucite for my Gull Wing canopy doors and windshield. It is said to be 10 times as strong as glass It resists gasoline. I can get it at Lowe's for about half price of Lexan. Any comments? You may reply to raybeth321@wmconnect.com Thanks, Ray Goree _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:47:12 -0500 From: "Les Criscillo" To: "KR2 Mailing List" Subject: KR>Using the AS5046 templates Message-ID: <004701c3bac1$24715f10$0300a8c0@your1rnfg39627> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 4 I have cut out the wing templates for the new wing and plan on mounting = them tomorrow on my plywood and cutting them to shape. There are 3 = different "end" templates. One for the end of the wooden spars(120.75"), = one for the end of the "foam" spars (132.75"), and one that is labeled = "tip" and is 140.75" from the ac centerline. I plan on using my stock = spars w/ the laminated spruce strip to bring them up to size. Which = template should I be using at the end of my spar? I plan on making a = basic wingtip. Thanks!!=20 Les Criscillo Tampa, FL Lcriscil@tampabay.rr.com http://groups.msn.com/LesLifeandfriends/homepageFrom flesner@midwest.net Thu Dec 04 16:06:56 2003 Received: from capitol.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.180]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AS3Ul-000Gcj-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:06:55 -0800 Received: from dsc01-cir-oh-207-95-2-31.rasserver.net ([207.95.2.31] helo=larry-flesner) by capitol.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AS3J4-00051n-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:54:51 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20031204174809.0083ba70@pop.midwest.net> X-Sender: flesner@pop.midwest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:48:09 -0600 To: KRnet From: larry flesner In-Reply-To: <1d5.15d39534.2d010220@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: KR>Outbd Fwd Spars KR2S X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: > Right now I am building my outbd fwd spars. I don't understand >drawing >no. 17 where it shows a 12 1/2" piece of plywood being glued to the fwd face of >the spar. When I tapered my spar caps for the outbd spars it says not >to >taper until 7" . > How is the plywood on the fwd face fit at the root If the taper starts 7" >out? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The first 7" flat is for the Wing Attach Fittings. the plywood will easily transition from the flat and follow the taper when you glue it in place. I think the 2s plans may call for plywood the full length on the forward face. Someone with newer plans will have to answer that. Larry Flesner Carterville, Illinois (My final inspection is TUESDAY !!!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:18:21 -0600 From: "B. Wunder" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Outbd Fwd Spars KR2S Message-ID: <002a01c3bacd$aced4a00$6400a8c0@computer> References: <3.0.6.32.20031204174809.0083ba70@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 > > Right now I am building my outbd fwd spars. I don't understand drawing > >no. 17 where it shows a 12 1/2" piece of plywood being glued to the > >fwd > face of > >the spar. When I tapered my spar caps for the outbd spars it says not > >to taper until 7" . How is the plywood on the fwd face fit at the > >root If the taper starts 7" > >out? > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The KR2S plans call for plywood on the fwd and aft faces. I had no problem glueing the plywood to the faces even though the taper did not start until 7" out. I have some photos on my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n2w6/wing.html r/ Bernie KR2S Builder Lexington Park, MD http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n2w6 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The first 7" flat is for the Wing Attach Fittings. the plywood will > easily transition from the flat and follow the taper when you glue it > in place. I think the 2s plans may call for plywood the full length > on the forward face. Someone with newer plans will have to answer > that. > > Larry Flesner > Carterville, Illinois (My final inspection is TUESDAY !!!) > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:31:09 -0600 From: "j stevens" To: "krlist" Subject: KR>crosswinds Message-ID: <000c01c3bac7$15693320$ecd3fea9@CPQ28121814422> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 Thanks Bud very usefull info. Joel kr2s ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:55:25 -0800 From: Dan Root To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>carbs, one more time Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 OK, I've been doing some digging, and as usual have found more questions than I have found answers. You can flog me if you wish, but only after you kindly indulge me. Unless I'm getting it wrong, I understand the Edelbrock Quicksilver II carb was introduced a couple of years ago. Experienced builders like Dan Heath commented on this unit as being a potentially hopeful yet unproven development in the homebuilt arena. Any experience out there with this marvel of modern technology? In addition, I'm interested in specifically which other harley motorcycle carbs are giving a good showing when stuck onto a VW based engine. -- Daniel E. Root root1@llnl.gov KR2s builder wannabee ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:09:16 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>carbs, one more time Message-ID: <005401c3bacc$674cd890$2402a8c0@800Athlon> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Daniel E. Root wrote: > Unless I'm getting it wrong, I understand the Edelbrock Quicksilver II > carb was introduced a couple of years ago. Any experience out there > with this marvel of modern technology? This carb and other Harley carbs have been thoroughly discussed on the CorvAircraft list. Go to http://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch/index.jsp and search for Quicksilver and Harley and you'll find a lot of info... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:10:51 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Using the AS5046 templates Message-ID: <005e01c3bacc$9ff9f880$2402a8c0@800Athlon> References: <004701c3bac1$24715f10$0300a8c0@your1rnfg39627> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Les Criscillo wrote: >Which template should I be using at the end of my spar? Uh, the one that says "for the end of the wooden spars" on it. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:31:36 -0600 From: "Peg and Mike Meyer" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Lucite Message-ID: <001401c3bacf$8816d460$1f20fea9@o0c8u6> References: <1d3.157f507b.2d00bdb6@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Ray: Polymethyl methacrylate is acrylic sheet - it is sold under the tradenames Lucite and Plexiglas (among others). There are as many varieties of acrylic sheet as there are manufacturers. For example, ICI chemical sells "G-cell Plexiglas" which is supposedly very easy to thermoform. I used 1/8" (actually .117") for my windscreen. It thermoformed relatively easily in a small solar oven I made. Forget about Lowe's - you can get it from Port Plastics in Fort Worth for a fraction of the price. And forget about Lexan - it's a polycarbonate product that develops tiny cracks at the slightest provocation (ask Dan Heath). Mike Meyer ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:41 AM Subject: KR>Lucite > I am considering using Lucite for my Gull Wing canopy doors and > windshield. It is said to be 10 times as strong as glass It resists gasoline. I can > get it at Lowe's for about half price of Lexan. Any comments? You may reply > to raybeth321@wmconnect.com Thanks, Ray Goree > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:28:37 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KRnet Subject: KR>Final Inspection Soon Message-ID: <20031205012837.68051.qmail@web40809.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20031204174809.0083ba70@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 --- larry flesner wrote: (My final inspection is TUESDAY !!!) Weather permitting, we will soon have another KR that comes out of the "Under Construction" Category and proudly finds her place in the "Flying" category. Shall I quote Mr. Potato Head from the Movie Toy Story? "Way to go Idaho"! For the benefit of us all, please let us know how the inspection process goes, what the inspector liked, dis-liked, what did he "home"in on, what did he ignore...You know the drill. Hopefully we can all learn from your lead. Congratulations! ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:56:24 -0600 From: "Bob Stone" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Lucite Message-ID: <000401c3badb$5ef31920$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> References: <1d3.157f507b.2d00bdb6@wmconnect.com> <001401c3bacf$8816d460$1f20fea9@o0c8u6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Peg and Mike Meyer, Do you have an address for ICI Chemical? I would like to get some of that "G-cell plexiglas and see just how easy it is to thermoform. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg and Mike Meyer" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:31 PM Subject: Re: KR>Lucite > Ray: > > Polymethyl methacrylate is acrylic sheet - it is sold under the > tradenames Lucite and Plexiglas (among others). There are as many > varieties of acrylic > sheet as there are manufacturers. For example, ICI chemical sells > "G-cell Plexiglas" which is supposedly very easy to thermoform. > > I used 1/8" (actually .117") for my windscreen. It thermoformed > relatively easily in a small solar oven I made. Forget about Lowe's - > you can get it from Port Plastics in Fort Worth for a fraction of the > price. And forget about Lexan - it's a polycarbonate product that > develops tiny cracks at the > slightest provocation (ask Dan Heath). > > Mike Meyer > > ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:41 AM > Subject: KR>Lucite > > > > I am considering using Lucite for my Gull Wing canopy doors and > > windshield. It is said to be 10 times as strong as glass It > > resists > gasoline. I can > > get it at Lowe's for about half price of Lexan. Any comments? You may > reply > > to raybeth321@wmconnect.com Thanks, Ray Goree > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:59:57 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Fuel pumps Message-ID: <20031205025957.14590.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13 Hi, I just thought someone might benefit from this- The fuel pump used on 1000cc and 1100cc Yamaha Virago motorcycles might be just what you need on a system with float bowl carbs. They are one piece, self contained with a pressure sensing diaphragm built in. When the pressure required by the carb is reached the diaphragm opens a set of points in the end of the pump and disconnects the 12 volt power from it until the pressure drops again and then closes the points so the pump runs again. The fuel pressure needed by a particular carb would be automatically controlled. The pump would put out until the needle closes against the seat and then stop until it unseats again. It would also stop a steady drain on the battery. It may be worth trying. All that's needed is a 12 volt connection and an in and out fuel line. Rick Wilson. ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:17:52 EST From: Raybeth321@wmconnect.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Lucite Message-ID: <112.2c366497.2d0152e0@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 Thanks Mike for the info. I have received about 4 other responses to my Email to the net. I had received a piece of Lexan from Wicks. I am returning it because it was clear and I wanted "Tinted". By the way,I was at the hanger a day or two ago and talked with Jim. He was asking about you. The 24x48 piece of Lexan from wicks cost $32.00. I can get the same piece from Lowe's (Lucite" for $10 to $12. I will check into your source. Thanks, Mike Ray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:26:22 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>Fuel pumps/pressure regulator Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031204212622.0086e390@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <20031205025957.14590.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 15 For those needing to control the pressure of fuel pumps to a low pressure carb check out the fuel pressure regulator at Auto Zone. $20 and is adjustable from 1/2 to 5 1/2 pounds approx. I have one on my KR and I believe it is the same type used by Marty Roberts. My hangar neighbor has a Zenair 601 with a balanced Harley engine and his fuel pump was causing his carb to overflow. He installed this unit and kept dialing it down in pressure until the carb quit overflowing. The setting ended up to be 1.5 pounds. The unit is adjustable in 1/2 pound settings. Larry Flesner Carterville, Illinois ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:11:08 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>Lucite - plexiglass-lexan - CANOPY FORMING Message-ID: <003401c3bae5$cfd425d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 16 Ok fellow KR nuts. This day goes down in my book as a confirmation in = destiny and faith in the creator. Bear with me as I tell you why and if = you want to form clear acrylic. I had notice at work today of a = consultant coming in to help with a project at work. Now I usually am = not involved in these much but as my position of Quality Technician is = almost over and my promotion to Process Technician ( as in Process = Engineer without a degree), starts off soon I was asked to attend. So = off I go and reading an introductory brochure to this "consultant" I = find that this man is VERY experienced in all aspects of the = thermoforming field, had his own AIRLINE for a number of years and is = still an avid flyer! He shows up wearing a tie with old biplanes and a = boatplane pin! Hahhaha oh my god when we broke for a break I must have = looked like a vulture on a week old deer carcass to get to him for a = quick talk. And in 5 minutes what did I learn? Are you ready for this? 1 - The mold/tool must be warm as to not "chill the plastic" 2 - Felt is often used as it imparts warmth, but is not needed. 3 - A smooth surface is fine (no felt - but wood usually waxed) but a = surface temp of a minimum of 150 degrees must be held=20 before the plastic hits it. 4 - A male tool can be formed as easily as a female (that helps make = things easier) As acrylic does not bag like I am used to with=20 polyethylene. 5 - A trick of the trade - a quick burst of air over the surface (as if = blowing off dust) of the side that is to hit the mold. 6 - And last but not least - FORMING temperature of acrylic is 360 = DEGREES !!!! Now you know why it has been cracking. Tests will begin. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:54:57 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>Acrylic source Message-ID: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 17 For those of you unfamiliar with mcmaster carr, here is their web site. = They are not the cheapest place but have almost anything and will sell = to anyone and do the onesie twosie stuff. Look under raw materials and = then plastics. There are 2 created types of acrylic. An extruded, = which is more easily thermoformed, and a cast sheet - which is supposed = to have superior optics but harder to form.=20 http://www.mcmaster.com/ Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:52:08 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght Message-ID: <001601c3baf3$ebf7a300$4597dccb@ralf> References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 18 I have increased my H/Stabilizer spars 12 inches, Some have told me to increase the spar size and strength, others say here is no need. Any advise would be welcomed I have been told spars need to be 20% stronger width or a doubler out One foot either side??? Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:10:12 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Acrylic source Message-ID: <3FD06794.000011.03576@Computer> References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 19 I bought mine from GE Polymer shapes. We have a local distributor and I = can get any size I want for a minimum charge of $25. I am using Plexiglas MC= =2E=20 Their web site is very informative.=0D =0D www.gepolymershapes.com=0D =0D Again, again, I say unto you, DONT DO THIS.=0D =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From dean_cooper@msn.com Fri Dec 05 04:04:17 2003 Received: from bay5-dav59.bay5.hotmail.com ([65.54.173.89] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ASEgz-000B5U-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:04:17 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:52:15 -0800 Received: from 67.41.169.70 by bay5-dav59.bay5.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:52:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.41.169.70] X-Originating-Email: [dean_cooper@msn.com] X-Sender: dean_cooper@msn.com From: "Dean Cooper" To: "KRnet" References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <001601c3baf3$ebf7a300$4597dccb@ralf> Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:51:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 8.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V8.50.0017.1202 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:51:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2003 11:52:15.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A019740:01C3BB26] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Phil wrote: >I have increased my H/Stabilizer spars 12 inches, Some have told me to >increase the spar size and strength, others say here is no need. Any >advise would be welcomed I would appreciate the advice as well. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.htmlFrom bo124rs@hotmail.com Fri Dec 05 04:05:26 2003 Received: from bay13-f34.bay13.hotmail.com ([64.4.31.34] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ASEi6-000B9P-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:05:26 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:53:23 -0800 Received: from 152.163.252.232 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:53:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.252.232] X-Originating-Email: [bo124rs@hotmail.com] X-Sender: bo124rs@hotmail.com From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Bcc: Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 06:53:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2003 11:53:23.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[62DEB620:01C3BB26] Subject: KR>Fun Friday flying pics. X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: OK, so much for building pics.......how about a couple flying pics. Seems as flying takes a back seat while we are building. About 5 weeks ago a flyer started a yahoo group called Ohio Valley Rvators, there are now over 145 members. If anyone has a yahoo account, you can check out the photo section and file sections. I wanted to see a very specific detail on an aft canopy skirt on last years SNF Grand Champion 6. I know, I know it's not KR but it is Friday and it is airplane related:-). Anyway, I posted a message on Tuesday night at 10:30 PM to meet on Weds. at noon. We ended up having three more RVs to look at so it was six people four airplanes on a moments notice. One of the guys has a 4 with inverted oil and fuel. Needless so say how he flew:-) Anyway, for those building and not flying.............a little unusual attitude.........course with me that can be most days. This would be somewhere around 270 degrees.........not 90 degrees. http://rvflying.tripod.com/ufo6.JPG Check out the VSI then look at the pitch attitude. Cruise climb with a fixed pitch prop!! http://rvflying.tripod.com/ufo7.JPG Well, for a building update. I have exactly two alum. parts I haven't yet fitted/drilled and deburred yet for fuselage pieces. Several pieces have been fit but removed for painting. As soon I get the canopy removed, I'll spend about 2 hours stripping parts out of the fuselage and taking the fuselage to the painter for some spot interior painting. By next weekend I should be permanently reinstalling fuselage interior parts and start my electrical rough cut wire runs. Man, as you who have started installing systems...........this is flat out FUN!! We dark side guys say, "keep on pounding"........on here "keep on gluing", there is light at the end of the tunnel!! On a side note, go to matronics.com go to the RVlist site, go to 7 day archives or most recent posts something like that. One of the maintainance guys who serviced the jetliner struck by a shoulder SAM in Iraq last weeks has posted three pics. Unbelievable how these pilots got it back on the ground. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Cell phone ‘switch’ rules are taking effect — find out more here. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:11:29 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>DHL pics. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 20 OK, I'll save you some time: here is the cut and paste from the guys post. >>>>>>>>>>>Don't ask where they came from. Pics of the airplane are at: http://www.toosan.com/misc/DHL_SAM_Attack.jpg http://www.toosan.com/misc/DHL_SAM_Attack2.jpg http://www.toosan.com/misc/DHL_SAM_Attack3.jpg I have more at work that I'll post tomorrow.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:15:41 -0500 From: AviationMech@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Subject: Re: KR>Fuel pumps/pressure regulator Message-ID: <656979E2.26FFCE5B.110167FC@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 21 I used a similar device and found that at wide open throttle the fuel flow was not suffient and caused a lean condition at the highest rpm N110LR 19 years in a KR Orma ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:24:37 -0600 From: "Wright, JD Dave (6865) @ IS" To: "'r.freiberger@earthlink.net'" , "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR>Lucite Message-ID: <49D1A43C2994F140A1CE90170420F2842102E7@gvlexch04.gvl.l-3com.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 22 Ron, I am trying to get info on whether the KR-2S is a good choice of a plane kit for me. I am new to all this. I am 6'4", 230 lbs. and would like to build something that doesn't take forever. I was also looking at the Sonerai, but I don't think I would fit. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, JD -----Original Message----- From: Ron Freiberger [mailto:r.freiberger@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:35 PM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR>Lucite Yes, Lucite is the material of choice for windows and windshields. It is not as strong as glass. Lexan scratches easily. And, don't get ant high solvent materials around the Lucite, such as some aerosol spray paints. Make sure the stuff from Lowe's is Lucite (methyl methacrylate) and NOT Styrene. Ron Freiberger mailto: r.freiberger at earthlink.net r dot freiberger.... get it? -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+r.freiberger=earthlink.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+r.freiberger=earthlink.net@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:41 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Lucite I am considering using Lucite for my Gull Wing canopy doors and windshield. It is said to be 10 times as strong as glass It resists gasoline. I can get it at Lowe's for about half price of Lexan. Any comments? You may reply to raybeth321@wmconnect.com Thanks, Ray Goree _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:35:44 -0600 From: "Wright, JD Dave (6865) @ IS" To: "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR>Fuel pumps/pressure regulator Message-ID: <49D1A43C2994F140A1CE90170420F2842102E8@gvlexch04.gvl.l-3com.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 23 Orma, I am a newbee trying to determine if the KR would be a good choice kit for a large person (6'4",230 lbs) and does it take forever to build? Would appreciate any info? Thanks, JD -----Original Message----- From: AviationMech@aol.com [mailto:AviationMech@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:16 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Fuel pumps/pressure regulator I used a similar device and found that at wide open throttle the fuel flow was not suffient and caused a lean condition at the highest rpm N110LR 19 years in a KR Orma _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:44:08 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Fuel pumps/pressure regulator Message-ID: <20031205134408.34532.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20031204212622.0086e390@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 24 Larry, DO you have a part number or SKU. At AutoZone, they can't do anything without a vehicle application, SKU or Part Number. --- larry flesner wrote: > For those needing to control the pressure of fuel > pumps to a low pressure carb check out the fuel pressure regulator at Auto Zone. $20 and is adjustable from 1/2 to 5 1/2 pounds approx. I have one on my KR and I believe it is the same type used by Marty Roberts. ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 06:48:52 -0700 From: cartera To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>DHL pics. Message-ID: <3FD08CC4.90105@cuug.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 25 Just goes to show what will fly, at least they made it home and that is the only thing that counts. God bless them! Dana Overall wrote: > OK, I'll save you some time: here is the cut and paste from the guys > post. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't ask where they came from. Pics of the airplane are >>>>>>>>>>>> at: > > > http://www.toosan.com/misc/DHL_SAM_Attack.jpg > http://www.toosan.com/misc/DHL_SAM_Attack2.jpg > http://www.toosan.com/misc/DHL_SAM_Attack3.jpg > > I have more at work that I'll post tomorrow.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. > http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 240, Issue 1 *************************************