From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 335, Issue 1 Date: 3/9/2004 11:52:31 AM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. regular shop tools. re: KR>Saved my life 2. RE: KR-2 Weight and balance (Hans Maritz) 3. Re: Dana/Panel (Dana Overall) 4. Re: Dana/Panel (James R Freeman) 5. Dynon clarification (Dana Overall) 6. Re: Dana/Panel (Dana Overall) 7. Carb heat (Serge F. Vidal) 8. RE: Saved my life (Ron Freiberger) 9. soob install pics (Dave Jeltema) 10. Rand/Robinson Engineering (Bob Stone) 11. Fwd: KR>kr2 (Steve Jones) (Linda Warner) 12. Re: Rand/Robinson Engineering (Mark Langford) 13. Re: Dynon clarification (larry severson) 14. Re: Rand/Robinson Engineering (Dana Overall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 01:52:13 EST From: FlashyAllen@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: regular shop tools. re: KR>Saved my life Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 >The KR is a great plane, but I have a problem with the "regular shop >tools" I have just started (Nov.) on a KR-2S and have spent the winter turning out all the metal fittings (except the rudder pedals and engine mount) with a tabletop drill press and t/t bandsaw (59") (both Ryobi) and regular hand tools, Dremel tool, files, & sanding sticks mostly. Did 1 or 2 each night while watching the history channel and am now working on the tail feathers (wood). This is all in an apartment, still looking for a garage. Allen G. Wiesner Ansonia, CT 06401 (203) 732-0508 flashyallen@aol (My SASS alias is Harry Flash(man) aka Flashy.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 10:12:27 +0200 From: "Hans Maritz" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>KR-2 Weight and balance Message-ID: <6B2B369A267AD14EAFF926582F9FB043046214@mbzajhb01.za.corp.investec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Hi Dan and everybody else, Thank you for every response, I've got enough to work with. Regards, Hans Maritz (+27) (0)82 853 6662, (+27) (011) 291 6208 "Business Continuity Management is about sustaining commitment" -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: 05 March 2004 12:38 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>KR-2 Weight and balance There is a link to the W&B right on the home page of our site.=20 =20 See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics =20 Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC =20 DanRH@KR-Builder.org =20 See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering =20 See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org =20 -------Original Message------- =20 From: serge.vidal@ate-international.com; KRnet Date: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:42:38 AM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>KR-2 Weight and balance =20 Hans, =20 The mass and balance sheet of the KR2 construction manual should get you started. I will send you my Excel spreadsheet if you give us an E-mail address. =20 Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia =20 -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Hans Maritz Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 14:05 To: KRnet Subject: KR>KR-2 Weight and balance =20 =20 Hi All, =20 Just acquired a KR-2(ZS-VYX) with a nose wheel. =20 Could some body kindly furnish me with some weight and balance informatio= n on the KR-2? =20 Regards, =20 Hans Maritz =20 (Johannesburg, South Africa) IMPORTANT NOTICE: =20 If you are not the intended recipient of this email (or such person's authorised representative), then : =20 (a) please notify the sender of this email immediately by return email, facsimile or telephone and delete this message from your system; (b) you may not print, store, forward or copy this message or any part thereof or disclose or cause information in this message to be disclosed to any other person. =20 The information in or attached to this email message is confidential and = may be subject to legal privilege and client confidentiality. 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The disclaimer is deemed to form part of this message in terms of Section= =2011 of the Electronic Communications and Transactions Act 25 of 2002.=20 If you cannot access the disclaimer, please obtain a copy thereof from us= =20by sending an email to : disclaimer@investec.co.za ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 05:57:16 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Dana/Panel Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 >From: larry severson >Not exactly. If you want full advantage of the system, you also need to >add >their pitot system at $195 + a mount kit at $95. > Larry, well again not exactly:-) You can use any pitot static system of your choice. If you want to take advantage of the angle of attack feature, you have to spring for non heated pitot/AOA unit. You can simply slide it into an existing 3 1/8" round panel hole so no mounting kit is required. The flush mounting kit costs something like $20. What you are referring to, with the $95 feature, looks about the price of the remote mag sensor if you want to isolate the DG function from any ferrous metals. Since I don't have any spinning gyros in my panel the DG function is very accurate but I did spring for the remote sensor, just for insurance. So, bottom line $1995 and you can slide it into an existing hole, hook up any pitot/static system of your choice, provide power and you're off and running with no additional expense. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:17:28 -0500 From: James R Freeman To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Dana/Panel Message-ID: <007201c405c8$1c309300$933b74cc@HP> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Dana: What happens that You are awake at 5:57 A.M. Did You have too many stall/spins with your Beech Bonney? My plans were to come to Richmond, KY but I picked up one of my herd dogs and put my back out. KR-2 plans #1507 N951JF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:57 AM Subject: Re: KR>Dana/Panel > >From: larry severson > >Not exactly. If you want full advantage of the system, you also need > >to add > >their pitot system at $195 + a mount kit at $95. > > > > Larry, well again not exactly:-) You can use any pitot static system > of your choice. If you want to take advantage of the angle of attack feature, > you have to spring for non heated pitot/AOA unit. You can simply > slide it into an existing 3 1/8" round panel hole so no mounting kit > is required. The flush mounting kit costs something like $20. What > you are referring to, > with the $95 feature, looks about the price of the remote mag sensor > if you > want to isolate the DG function from any ferrous metals. Since I > don't have > any spinning gyros in my panel the DG function is very accurate but I > did spring for the remote sensor, just for insurance. > > So, bottom line $1995 and you can slide it into an existing hole, hook > up any pitot/static system of your choice, provide power and you're > off and running with no additional expense. > > > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! > (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:31:40 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Dynon clarification Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 I just want to make certain there is no misunderstanding as to the price of the Dynon unit. As Larry stated "If you want FULL advantage of the system, you also >>need to add their pitot system at $195 + a mount kit at $95." The key word there is....full. The only function you will not be able to use without adding an option is the Angle of Attack. The unit will provide all other functions with the expenditure of $1995 using the standard power supply in your airplane and the existing pitot/static system. If you have no use for the AOA, just use whatcha got. The remote sensor allows you to isolate the magnetic sensor to an area of your aircraft to minimize any metallic influence on the DG function. In my case, I don't need it but I got it anyway. If you want to flush mount the unit you gotta spring for an additional $20 or in keeping with the KR, manufacture one yourself. The back of the unit is standard aircraft instrument round and will slide in as a replacement for an AH or TC. A lot of guys are now going with the aeroelectric main/essential bus layout and doing away with the internal battery. Once again, the unit wil function without the internal battery. It, as with the other listed prices, is simply an option. The cut and paste is directly off their website this morning >>>>remote EDC-D10 sensor $99. Internal backup battery, $129. Unheated >>>>AOA/Pitot probe, $199. Flush Mount Bracket, $20. <<< Once again, the only function not available to you, at the price of $1995, is the AOA with no additional expense to plug and play the unit. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage – 4 plans to choose from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:39:01 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Dana/Panel Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 >From: James R Freeman > >Dana: > What happens that You are awake at 5:57 A.M. > Did You have too many stall/spins with your Beech Bonney? OK, I'm game to have a little fun with the list. Sorry gang, delete right now!! Since I'm a CPA, and it's prior to April 15th................the alarm clock goes off at 4:30AM each morning. My last client contact last night was at 7:50PM. Average a good 90 hours a week. Had a new builder stop by at 8PM to go over his tool purchase list (spending 2K for non RST minimal tools). A cold one at 8:30, bed at 9:30. Totally useless..............can't believe I'm posting it, but you know me:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage – 4 plans to choose from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:04:32 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KRnet'" Subject: KR>Carb heat Message-ID: <000901c405ce$af1976e0$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 I have an idea for a carb heat system that I would like to discuss. So far, my VW-powered KR2 has no carb heat. Air intake is through a round air filter box that is clamped directly against the carburetor intake. My idea is to run a pipe from a hot area of the engine baffling system directly to the cover plate of the filter box. This way, I would get hot air that would by-pass the filter. I would maybe put a very coarse filter in order to prevent objects ingress in the carb. An open-close mechanism on the baffling side would act as a valve What I plan to do is: - Make the pick-up point at the rear of the bottom baffling plate (this is a VW engine, so there is a baffling plate running under the engine), on the side, opening 90 degrees from the airflow. The 90 degrees is because I want to avoid building high pressure in the carb. - Close the pick-up point with a small sliding plate, that would be spring loaded. The control will be a push-pull cable, same as for a choke. Opinions? Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC - Taildragger, VW powered (2.4 liter, dual electronic ignition) - Total aircraft time: 390h - Aircraft hangared at: Orleans, France - Pilot moaning in: Tunis, Tunisia E-mail: serge.vidal@ate-international.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 07:59:19 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Saved my life Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040308.233530.3964.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Virg; In what way disi that save your life? Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR>Saved my life Fred Keller in Alaska built the first plans built with RST's, Virg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500 From: "Dave Jeltema" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>soob install pics Message-ID: Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9
can anyone send me some pictures of their subaru instalations?


Thank You
Dave Jeltema

Create a Job Alert on MSN Careers and enter for a chance to win $1000! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 07:55:44 -0600 From: "Bob Stone" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering Message-ID: <000801c405de$381b2c40$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 10 Since it is becoming more and more obvious that Mrs. Rand is not = much interested in her business, have any of you guys who are on the = KRNet and show the most interest in the KR line of aircraft ever thought = of making her an offer to buy the company. I know there are people on = the KRNet who are very well qualified to run such a company and even = come out with new designs such as a sea plane or a four place twin. = These are things that Ken Rand was thinking about prior to his death. = He did design a sea plane and the prototype was built test flown and = crashed. If Ken had survived he would have made some changes in that = design and it would have been as successful as his other designs. The = only thing I know of that has been created new since Mrs. Rand took over = is pre-molded parts, the KR-2S, and a tri-gear. With proper marketing, = I think the KR aircraft could be made as popular as the RV aircraft are = and at a much more attractive price. Ease of building, low price, high = performance and a very attractive finished airplane are all the features = that make the KR well worth the expense and effort to build so if proper = marketing were started by new management I am sure the new owners would = enjoy great success. Just my thoughts gentlemen, something for some of you to think = about it. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.comFrom mhardberger@admiraltyassociates.com Tue Mar 09 06:13:48 2004 Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.228]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1B0hzP-0009gy-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 06:13:48 -0800 Received: from toshibauser (cable-68-114-109-81.sli.la.charter.com [68.114.109.81]) by mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id i29E5NUd036324 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:05:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mhardberger@admiraltyassociates.com) Message-ID: <011f01c405df$904fc7d0$6400a8c0@toshibauser> From: "Max Hardberger" To: "KRnet" References: <000801c405de$381b2c40$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 06:05:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I would be interested in joining such a venture. Max Hardberger "have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most interest in the KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an offer to buy the company." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:14:10 -0500 (EST) From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Fwd: KR>kr2 (Steve Jones) Message-ID: <811-404DD132-2308@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-10928-1304 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Message: 11 --WebTV-Mail-10928-1304 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Indeed, this man does get around. What a shock I got at our EAA chapter flyin breakfast last month here in Naples Fl, when this pretty KR flew in. Sorry you left so early Steve. I would've liked to talked with you some more about your bird. Maybe you'll come back down for our March flyin (we have one every month on the 2nd sunday). It's nice to have a person who feels like you do and tries to show off your bird. If you can't get back down for our flyin breakfast... I'll catch you at Sun-n-Fun. John Sickafoose EAA Tech Counselor Naples, Fl --WebTV-Mail-10928-1304 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-3207.bay.webtv.net (209.240.204.232) by storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lizard.esosoft.net (lizard.esosoft.net [66.113.66.18]) by smtpin-3207.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id F093911DCD; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1B0Amr-0006LX-02; Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:46:37 -0800 Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.1]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1B0Amp-0006LS-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:46:36 -0800 Received: from FIXERJONES@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37.4.) id g.1e5.1ac76e04 (17526) for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 21:38:41 -0500 (EST) From: FIXERJONES@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5.1ac76e04.2d7d36b1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 21:38:41 EST To: krnet@mylist.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>kr2 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive well guys, i'm doing my best exposing my kr2, n212kr here in fla. since nov. i,ve flown 76 fun filled hrs around the state,to fly ins, eaa breakfast,resterants & just goin to little airports hangin out with whoever has a hanger open. yes i,ll be at sun&fun a day or two& looking forward to longer trips this year. maby even get to go to my 1st kr gathering! the whole point to me is to have fun building&then real fun flyin :-) steve jones, venice fl _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --WebTV-Mail-10928-1304-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 08:41:00 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering Message-ID: <011701c405e4$8a88ccc0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: <000801c405de$381b2c40$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Bob Stone wrote: >> have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most interest >> in the KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an offer to buy the company<< Dr. Dean and I did exactly that about four years ago. Gave it a lot of thought, came up with a plan, flew out to California, and made her an offer over lunch. We knew that with some effort at marketing, optimizing suppliers, and using the Internet as a sales, marketing, and delivery tool, we could turn it around and make it cost effective, and get a lot more KRs under construction. I thought we made her an offer that she couldn't refuse, but it turns out she thought it was worth about 10 times what we thought it was worth, so we left empty handed. It didn't take us but a few hours (and a few beers) to realize that we had dodged a huge bullet, because buying that company would have meant inheriting the company's 25 years of liablity as well. It would be a very simple matter for somebody to come up with a similar but improved design, and market it as a new airplane, just as Stu and Ken did from the Monoplane, and I have no doubt that it will happen soon enough... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:12:28 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Dynon clarification Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040309081041.027e4740@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13 >The only function you will not be able to use without adding an option >is >the Angle of Attack. The unit will provide all other functions with the >expenditure of $1995 using the standard power supply in your airplane and >the existing pitot/static system. If you have no use for the AOA, just >use whatcha got. Forgive me, but the AOA is the most important feature that they add in not only my opinion but also in a number of books on stalls, spins, landing and small a/c crashes. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 13:27:29 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14 >From: "Mark Langford" Dr. Dean and I did exactly that about four years ago. Gave it a lot of thought, came up with a plan, flew out to California, and made her an offer over lunch. I thought we made her an offer that she couldn't refuse, but it turns out she thought it was worth about 10 times what we thought it was worth, Gang, I know the figure to which Mark is referring. I about choked when I heard the price. Trust me, you could CAD draw one, supply wonderful drawings and advertise the fire out of it for less than the counter offer. Neat idea but so was the station wagon. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 335, Issue 1 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================