From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 341, Issue 1 Date: 3/15/2004 3:04:52 AM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Brakes (Colin & Bev Rainey) 2. Turbo-alternator (Ron Eason) 3. Re: Clorox on old wood (gleone) 4. Re: Brakes (Joseph H Horton) 5. Re: Turbo-alternator (gleone) 6. RE: Brakes 7. Clorox - NO for mold. (Steve and Lori McGee) 8. Source for aluminum "T" stock. 9. Re: Ellison TBI 10. Re: Ellison TBI (joe) 11. Post of this week (Dan Heath) 12. Octanes (Colin & Bev Rainey) 13. RE: Brakes (Brian Kraut) 14. RE: Octanes (Brian Kraut) 15. Fwd: KR>Octanes (Linda Warner) 16. Advertising (Frank Smith) 17. I-KRFN first flight (Aripo) 18. RE: I-KRFN first flight (Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA) 19. RE: Ellison TBI (Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA) 20. Re: I-KRFN first flight (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:12:50 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>Brakes Message-ID: <000c01c40a00$b9fed560$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Netters, After talking off net with Larry Flesner and Dan Heath, I rebuilt the = left caliper of my Cleveland Brakes. It went very well, very simple and = works better than the right side! I had talked to Larry & a friend of = his (forgotten his name) and they instructed me to refill the system = from the bottom instead of from the top. This was echoed by the head = A&P at Avion who I was able to get the part for at cost, the O-ring, so = I was able to eliminate wait time. They also let me buy some brake = fluid off of them at cost. Great guys! Re-filling became the next = order of business. I check for syringes at local drugstores got me ALOT = of weird looks and no help. I ended up at Advance Auto Parts as much to = lick my wounds as look for something that would work. Wandering around = the store I saw a couple of potentials, until I saw The MixMiser tm. = This little plunger assembly is for measuring 2 cycle oil into gas cans, = but was perfect for bottom refilling of the brakes. It has great = capacity, and adapter tubing for extending it, and provides enough = pressure to back fill the system. Just don't get in a hurry or the end = of the adapter tubing may blow off making a mess! Don't ask how I know = this! Re-filling this way prevents the need for later bleeding, as all = the air is forced out of the top as you fill. I used some extra line = from a one man brake bleeder kit, and a couple of zip ties to add = pressure with it slipped inside the larger tube, to seal it to adapt it = to the small bleed nipple. Worked like a charm. I will send pictures = to Dan for posting on the site if anyone is interested. Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.htmlFrom gleone@rtconnect.net Sun Mar 14 14:45:55 2004 Received: from relay1.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.126]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1B2eMl-0005fH-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:45:55 -0800 Received: from [137.118.16.188] (HELO av0.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 49302627 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:38:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 22401 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2004 22:38:28 -0000 Received: from 137-118-244-135.actaccess.net (HELO your-fd6nvjcer4) (137.118.244.135) by mx1.av-mx.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2004 22:38:28 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 137.118.244.135 X-CLIENT-HOST: 137-118-244-135.actaccess.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <4054DED3.000001.02228@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:38:11 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (2501358) From: "gleone" References: <000c01c40a00$b9fed560$99ef0843@RaineyDay> To: Subject: Re: KR>Brakes X-FID: PLAINTXT-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: For syringes, the best place to go is to your local feed and tack store, Litton's Big R, etc. You'll find them in the veterinary section. I have a couple of 50cc ones for first aid use for my dogs. As an aside, one once got into some antifreeze and I had to administer 50cc of hydrogen peroxide to get her to vomit. Trust me when I say the 10cc ones got to be a lot of fun about the third syringe full. I still have teeth marks in my thumb and forefinger as I tried forcing her mouth open. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 03/14/04 13:11:01 To: KRnet Subject: KR>Brakes Netters, After talking off net with Larry Flesner and Dan Heath, I rebuilt the left caliper of my Cleveland Brakes. It went very well, very simple and works better than the right side! I had talked to Larry & a friend of his (forgotten his name) and they instructed me to refill the system from the bottom instead of from the top. This was echoed by the head A&P at Avion who I was able to get the part for at cost, the O-ring, so I was able to eliminate wait time. They also let me buy some brake fluid off of them at cost. Great guys! Re-filling became the next order of business. I check for syringes at local drugstores got me ALOT of weird looks and no help. I ended up at Advance Auto Parts as much to lick my wounds as look for something that would work. Wandering around the store I saw a couple of potentials, until I saw The MixMiser tm. This little plunger assembly is for measuring 2 cycle oil into gas cans, but was perfect for bottom refilling of the brakes. It has great capacity, and adapter tubing for extxø Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index html_______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:42:26 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>Turbo-alternator Message-ID: <004a01c40a15$a0b0d170$6501a8c0@Administration> References: <000c01c40a00$b9fed560$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 http://www.basicaircraft.com/product_bpe14.htm This is a interesting product. Turbo-alternator. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:39:49 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" To: Subject: Re: KR>Clorox on old wood Message-ID: <4054DF35.000003.02228@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> References: <031420041843.10846.72fb@comcast.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 It shouldn't hurt the epoxy but it will bleach the wood. I've used it on full military rifle stocks soaked in cosmoline. On the stocks, it took hours of sanding to get the color to show again but it didn't hurt the wood. Only took out the cosmoline and the color. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 03/14/04 11:43:29 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Clorox on old wood I checked the archives on this but couldn’t get a definitive answer to the use of Clorox on plywood. I have 20 year old KR project that has some moisture damage to the boat (my site will show you what stage I’m in: http://home.comcast.net/~rickcoy/RAF html). Some of the varnish is worn away and some of the stains look like they might be some kind of mould. Is Clorox safe on glue joints? Do I use it full strength, then rinse -- or leave it on? Rick Coykendall KR2 San Francisco Bay Area rickcoy@yahoo.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:28:10 -0500 From: Joseph H Horton To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Brakes Message-ID: <20040314.174407.-533775.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:12:50 -0500 "Colin & Bev Rainey" writes: > Re-filling became the next order of business. I check for syringes > at local drugstores got me ALOT of weird looks and no help. I ended > up at Advance Auto Parts as much to lick my wounds as look for > something that would work. Wandering around the store I saw a > couple of potentials, until I saw The MixMiser tm. This little > plunger assembly is for measuring 2 cycle oil into gas cans, but was > perfect for bottom refilling of the brakes. It has great capacity, > and adapter tubing for extending it, and provides enough pressure to > back fill the system. Guys: I saved the syringe from the smooth prime to use for this purpose. Joe Horton Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:46:44 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" To: , Subject: Re: KR>Turbo-alternator Message-ID: <4054E0D4.00000B.02228@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> References: <004a01c40a15$a0b0d170$6501a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Actually, you can make one for less by using a 12 DC motor. For instance, an electric fan motor for a car can be built into such a container and used to generate electricity to keep the battery charged in flight. -------Original Message------- From: Ron Eason; KRnet Date: 03/14/04 15:39:30 To: KRnet Subject: KR>Turbo-alternator http://www.basicaircraft.com/product_bpe14.htm This is a interesting product. Turbo-alternator. Ron _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:06:01 -0600 From: To: "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR>Brakes Message-ID: <001a01c40a18$eba92440$9c03fea9@greenhome2a1> In-Reply-To: <000c01c40a00$b9fed560$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Best thing to use for this is an ordinary pump oil can that can be bought for less then $10 (if you don't already have one handy)....Put flexible hose on the end of the oil can spout and attach the other end to the brake nipple.....A twelve oz can works great and the beauty is that if you think your running low on fluid in the can (you don't want it to run all the way out and introduce air into the pump), you can unscrew the bottom and refill the can without loosing pressure on the pumper part...So, you don't end up with an air bubble even if you have to add more fluid to the can part way thru. RG -----Original Message----- From: krnet-On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 2:13 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR>Brakes Netters, After talking off net with Larry Flesner and Dan Heath, I rebuilt the left caliper of my Cleveland Brakes. It went very well, very simple and works better than the right side! I had talked to Larry & a friend of his (forgotten his name) and they instructed me to refill the system from the bottom instead of from the top. This was echoed by the head A&P at Avion who I was able to get the part for at cost, the O-ring, so I was able to eliminate wait time. They also let me buy some brake fluid off of them at cost. Great guys! Re-filling became the next order of business. I check for syringes at local drugstores got me ALOT of weird looks and no help. I ended up at Advance Auto Parts as much to lick my wounds as look for something that would work. Wandering around the store I saw a couple of potentials, until I saw The MixMiser tm. This little plunger assembly is for measuring 2 cycle oil into gas cans, but was perfect for bottom refilling of the brakes. It has great capacity, and adapter tubing for extending it, and provides enough pressure to back fill the system. Just don't get in a hurry or the end of the adapter tubing may blow off making a mess! Don't ask how I know this! Re-filling this way prevents the need for later bleeding, as all the air is forced out of the top as you fill. I used some extra line from a one man brake bleeder kit, and a couple of zip ties to add pressure with it slipped inside the larger tube, to seal it to adapt it to the small bleed nipple. Worked like a charm. I will send pictures to Dan for posting on the site if anyone is interested. Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html__________________________________ _____ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:16:00 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>Clorox - NO for mold. Message-ID: <002901c40a1a$50b23420$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> References: <031420041843.10846.72fb@comcast.net> <4054DF35.000003.02228@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 FYI that bleach does not kill all mold. In fact does a poor job. It will clean it up and look nice, but then you should go at it with good old Lysol. It is the PHENOL in the lysol that kills the mold and fungus. In fact in a data sheet I saw about 10 years back there had yet to be discovered anything that Phenol did not kill. You should not even worry about getting a stronger solution of phenol than what is already in lysol to do the job. It is plenty strong enuf. In fact there are cleaners out there now that are bleach and Lysol mixed. Though I do not know the level of phenol in this solution. Just something I learned back in my taxidermy days. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "gleone" To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: KR>Clorox on old wood > It shouldn't hurt the epoxy but it will bleach the wood. I've used it > on full military rifle stocks soaked in cosmoline. On the stocks, it > took hours of sanding to get the color to show again but it didn't > hurt the wood. > Only took out the cosmoline and the color. > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRnet > Date: 03/14/04 11:43:29 > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR>Clorox on old wood > > I checked the archives on this but couldn't get a definitive answer to > the use of Clorox on plywood. > > I have 20 year old KR project that has some moisture damage to the > boat (my > site will show you what stage I'm in: > http://home.comcast.net/~rickcoy/RAF > html). > > Some of the varnish is worn away and some of the stains look like they might > be some kind of mould. Is Clorox safe on glue joints? Do I use it full > strength, then rinse -- or leave it on? > > Rick Coykendall > KR2 > San Francisco Bay Area > rickcoy@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:51:07 EST From: FlashyAllen@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Source for aluminum "T" stock. Message-ID: <11b.2f3f7f92.2d8649eb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Can anyone give me a source for the 1" "T" stock as mentioned in Dean R. Collette's stabilizer/elevator hinge article. (http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/dean_hinge/) I assume it is 1/8" 6061 material. Also, has anyone considered using rod end bearings with a grease fitting? (MW-3Z or HF-3G, the cost is only a couple of $$ more) Allen G. Wiesner KR-2S/TD? #1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401 (203) 732-0508 flashyallen@aol ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:27:54 EST From: FIXERJONES@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Ellison TBI Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 yea,i tries autogas in my ellison & fou temps at full rich at full power, then i reduced rpm for a landing & it it almost quit running,at full rich. so i went to full power to get it to run & switched tanks to the avgas & it ran fine. i landed & drained the 10 gal out & never tried that again. it's been running fine ever since. steve jones n212kr ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:05:08 -0800 From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Ellison TBI Message-ID: <000c01c40a29$8f570c00$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 I wonder why? What is it that they do to stc engines to run autogas(if anything) and did you do this change or test. Or is it just paperwork? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 4:27 PM Subject: Re: KR>Ellison TBI > yea,i tries autogas in my ellison & fou temps at full rich at full > power, then i reduced rpm for a landing & it it almost quit running,at > full rich. so i > went to full power to get it to run & switched tanks to the avgas & it > ran fine. i landed & drained the 10 gal out & never tried that again. > it's been > running fine ever since. steve jones n212kr > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:03:41 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Cc: "Jerry" Subject: KR>Post of this week Message-ID: <405500ED.00000B.03896@Computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 Well, I have a post, but no time to get it ready. =0D =0D I have re-taped the windows for the final time.=0D Installed an inspection plate under the horizontal stab.=0D Added a handle to close and open the canopy door from inside.=0D Sanded some on the fuselage.=0D Sanded down the wings that were previously finished and are unacceptable, and filled and puttied them. What a mess. Getting off old paint is not = an easy task.=0D =0D How do you know when it is time to quit sanding?=0D When you get SANDING ELBOW.=0D =0D Post to come later in the week. =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:59:05 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>Octanes Message-ID: <003a01c40a41$dc43a830$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 12 Netters, Switching from 100LL to avgas of any grade will most likely require = rejetting of the carb or adjusting the mixture for a fuel injected = system. The volume of fuel required for proper combustion when dealing = with different octane's is a different volume. In drag racing we = noticed differences between 100 leaded racing fuel and pump 94 Amoco = white which is the highest grade. There will be significant differences = and no-one should take this lightly. At best it can cause low power, at = worst it will cause engine failure through carbon fouling or lean out = (depending on which side of the curve you are on). Expect any time you = change fuel grade to completely re-tune. In drag racing we found = simple temp changes influenced jet settings, mixture adjustments. = Please be careful! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.htmlFrom crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sun Mar 14 20:17:36 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-03-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.133] helo=ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1B2jXk-0009hC-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:17:36 -0800 Received: from RaineyDay (153.239.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.239.153]) by ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i2F4A7uK011814 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:10:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004501c40a43$af502bd0$99ef0843@RaineyDay> From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:12:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Aileron deflection X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Netters, It seems that my bellcranks may have been made alittle shy of the = required deflection. It seems that the right wing moves down acceptably, = but does not move up to the correct angle of deflection. I am wondering = if this can be corrected at the bellcrank by slightly increasing the = amount of movement by locating an additional hole for a new pivot hole = in the same bellcrank, or whether I should remake this one bellcrank = over? I am prepared to re-drill both bellcranks and re-mount, then = install a movement limit at the stick to prevent forcing the aileron = past its mechanical limits. 2 Things: 1) I am concerned with having = over the stated amount of deflection possible, as long as I can achieve = the design amount; 2) I presently have un-equal amounts of deflection = favoring the left side in the up position. I have checked all areas and = there is no binding, it is related to the bellcrank, setup geometry. = Not having plans to compare to, I have no reference to relate what = should have been done to what has been done. On a good note: taxi tested some more today and found the gear to = track straight and true, the brakes work great and she is LOTS of fun to = taxi!!!!!!! I can park her on a dime with the full swivel free = castoring pneumatic tailwheel. Bev was with me and boy is she BIT!!!!! = I am in trouble now.......... She is ready to fly! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.htmlFrom brian.kraut@engalt.com Sun Mar 14 20:19:09 2004 Received: from mail.engalt.com ([64.200.117.187]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1B2jZE-0009ld-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:19:09 -0800 Received: from bknotebook [68.242.93.142] by mail.engalt.com (SMTPD32-7.07) id AF2FDF50088; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:21:03 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Clorox on old wood Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4054DF35.000003.02228@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: When I used to fly radio controlled planes a lot we had a trick for drying fuel soaked balsa wood. The fuel had oil in it and the only thing to dry the oil out was a product called, interresting enough, K2R. It is sold in grocery stores as a stain remover. I believe it was made for laundry, or was it carpets? -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of gleone Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 5:40 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Clorox on old wood It shouldn't hurt the epoxy but it will bleach the wood. I've used it on full military rifle stocks soaked in cosmoline. On the stocks, it took hours of sanding to get the color to show again but it didn't hurt the wood. Only took out the cosmoline and the color. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 03/14/04 11:43:29 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Clorox on old wood I checked the archives on this but couldn’t get a definitive answer to the use of Clorox on plywood. I have 20 year old KR project that has some moisture damage to the boat (my site will show you what stage I’m in: http://home.comcast.net/~rickcoy/RAF html). Some of the varnish is worn away and some of the stains look like they might be some kind of mould. Is Clorox safe on glue joints? Do I use it full strength, then rinse -- or leave it on? Rick Coykendall KR2 San Francisco Bay Area rickcoy@yahoo.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:18:00 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Brakes Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040314.174407.-533775.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 You can also buy brake bleeding kits in most auto parts stores. I got mine at Napa. It uses a squeeze bottle and has some tubing in the kit. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Joseph H Horton Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 5:28 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Brakes On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:12:50 -0500 "Colin & Bev Rainey" writes: > Re-filling became the next order of business. I check for syringes at > local drugstores got me ALOT of weird looks and no help. I ended up > at Advance Auto Parts as much to lick my wounds as look for something > that would work. Wandering around the store I saw a couple of > potentials, until I saw The MixMiser tm. This little plunger assembly > is for measuring 2 cycle oil into gas cans, but was perfect for bottom > refilling of the brakes. It has great capacity, and adapter tubing > for extending it, and provides enough pressure to back fill the > system. Guys: I saved the syringe from the smooth prime to use for this purpose. Joe Horton Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:25:20 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Octanes Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003a01c40a41$dc43a830$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 You also may have to lower the compression of the engine if you switch to auto fuel. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:59 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR>Octanes Netters, Switching from 100LL to avgas of any grade will most likely require rejetting of the carb or adjusting the mixture for a fuel injected system. The volume of fuel required for proper combustion when dealing with different octane's is a different volume. In drag racing we noticed differences between 100 leaded racing fuel and pump 94 Amoco white which is the highest grade. There will be significant differences and no-one should take this lightly. At best it can cause low power, at worst it will cause engine failure through carbon fouling or lean out (depending on which side of the curve you are on). Expect any time you change fuel grade to completely re-tune. In drag racing we found simple temp changes influenced jet settings, mixture adjustments. Please be careful! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html______________________________________ _ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:50:13 -0500 (EST) From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Fwd: KR>Octanes Message-ID: <10367-40553605-3294@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-9899-1791 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Message: 15 --WebTV-Mail-9899-1791 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I would think that there is a "typo" here. The statement was made that "switching from 100LL to any avgas....." The word "autogas" may be the right word. In certified aircraft that are switched over to auto fuel, there is nothing special done to the carb or the engine. Of course, this is usually only allowed on engines that use 80/87 octane. There may be a few exceptions to this as I believe a few 91 octane conversions are allowed, but still there are no mods done to the carb. One thing that is NOT allowed with any auto fuel use in aircraft is using any fuel that contains alcohol. There is a simple test that can be done to determine if auto fuel contains any alcohol. There may be airframe problems that cause fuel flow interruptions or vapor lock to occur with the auto fuel. To cure these problems, an electric pump may have to be installed near the tanks to push fuel to the main pump or to the carb in the case of gravity feed systems. In short, most engines should run reasonably well on autofuel if all other things are equal. John Sickafoose A&P, EAA Tech counselor Naples, Fl --WebTV-Mail-9899-1791 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-3211.bay.webtv.net (209.240.204.236) by storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lizard.esosoft.net (lizard.esosoft.net [66.113.66.18]) by smtpin-3211.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 62B7F11DF1 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1B2jLh-0009Zx-09 for jaslkw@webtv.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:05:09 -0800 Received: from ms-smtp-02-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.132] helo=ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1B2jL7-0009Un-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:04:33 -0800 Received: from RaineyDay (153.239.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.239.153]) by ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i2F3v384022215 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:57:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003a01c40a41$dc43a830$99ef0843@RaineyDay> From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:59:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Octanes X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces+jaslkw=webtv.net@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces+jaslkw=webtv.net@mylist.net X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Netters, Switching from 100LL to avgas of any grade will most likely require = rejetting of the carb or adjusting the mixture for a fuel injected = system. The volume of fuel required for proper combustion when dealing = with different octane's is a different volume. In drag racing we = noticed differences between 100 leaded racing fuel and pump 94 Amoco = white which is the highest grade. There will be significant differences = and no-one should take this lightly. At best it can cause low power, at = worst it will cause engine failure through carbon fouling or lean out = (depending on which side of the curve you are on). Expect any time you = change fuel grade to completely re-tune. In drag racing we found = simple temp changes influenced jet settings, mixture adjustments. = Please be careful! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html_______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --WebTV-Mail-9899-1791-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 00:27:07 -0700 From: "Frank Smith" To: Cc: Subject: KR>Advertising Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 16 To whom it may Concern, I have two engines for sale one is a Subaru EJ-22 which is a 130 HP = engine with a (Ross Aero reduction drive) which is at a 1.85 gear reduction = ratio,=20 many extras. $3900. for everything including all of the extras that I = have. The other engine is a type 4 , This engine is new except for test run on = a test stand this engine was specially built for aircraft use it is also = a 2600 CC engine that comes out to be 115 HP, I am asking $3800 .Due to = personal reasons I am not able to finish my project at this time. Please contact me . Frank Smith at 505-271-4956 any time until 9-PM mountain standard time Thank You very much ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:34:58 +0100 From: "Aripo" To: Subject: KR>I-KRFN first flight Message-ID: <002301c40a68$6a5ef0e0$dfc83052@r9a7v5> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 17 Hi netters Yesterday sunday 14 at 16.00 my KR2 I-KRFN airborne. My KR is a standard plan built with Rotax 912ULS 80 hp Dihel taildragger = landing gear , pulsar canopy and speed brake. Empty weight is 283 Kgs ( about 623 lbs)=20 Absolutely no problems about take off, flying and landing , I've landed = at about 50 kts without the speed brake , no float. I am very very happy. Ciao Franco Negri Omegna Italy I-KRFN See my KR at www.negri.cjb.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:07:27 +0100 From: Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA To: 'KRnet' Cc: Wrathall Mark - OS TDEE , "LH - Robert Wanek (E-mail)" Subject: RE: KR>I-KRFN first flight Message-ID: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E971746017D611F@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 18 Congratulations How did you get it that light (283 is great my KR2S is 20kg heavier)? enjoy your KR Ciao Christian OE-VPD http://www.members.aon.at/oevpd -----Original Message----- From: Aripo [mailto:francomarianegri@virgilio.it] Sent: Montag, 15. M=E4rz 2004 09:35 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>I-KRFN first flight Hi netters Yesterday sunday 14 at 16.00 my KR2 I-KRFN airborne. My KR is a standard plan built with Rotax 912ULS 80 hp Dihel = taildragger landing gear , pulsar canopy and speed brake. Empty weight is 283 Kgs ( about 623 lbs)=20 Absolutely no problems about take off, flying and landing , I've landed = at about 50 kts without the speed brake , no float. I am very very happy. Ciao Franco Negri Omegna Italy I-KRFN See my KR at www.negri.cjb.net _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:23:21 +0100 From: Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>Ellison TBI Message-ID: <9D054CEF43F1C243A279E5435E971746017D6120@sviemxs02.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 19 A couple of years ago I called Ellison and they told me that the main-diaphragm in the TBI cannot handle the alcohol content in the auto = gas. That's why I still fly AVGAS. AVGAS does have another advantage over the auto gas application. If you have a low pressure fuel system it is more likely to get vapor = lock with auto gas than with AVGAS. This is the reason why I am not messing around with the Ellison TBI and change the diaphragm and and and..... Besides last summer I almost had a friend killed in a low pressure auto = gas carburetor set-up. However my next project (Harmon Rocket or RV4 or RV7 with a rotary, I = like Dana's set-up) will have a high(er) pressure fuel system and auto gas. Christian OE-VPD http://www.members.aon.at/oevpd -----Original Message----- From: Don Sprague [mailto:Donsprague@houston.rr.com] Sent: Sonntag, 14. M=E4rz 2004 07:40 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Ellison TBI I have an EFS2 Ellison on my 1835cc GPVW. I know that Ben Ellison = insists on the use of AVGAS but has anyone tried using auto gas in it? His = reason is that auto gas additives will affect the gaskets. I've got about 25 hours on my bird now and did my first "cross country" roundrobin today, about 1 hour and 20 minutes and skirting a = thunderstorm cell off the beach in Galveston. What a hoot! I'm beginning to get = some confidence in the engine which hasn't stopped since I extended the headertank vent 6 inches. This was really fun! =20 I really enjoyed the accounts of your flights, Larry. It gave me the incentive to continue on til the problem was solved. Thanks, Don Sprague KR2 N118DS Houston, Texas Don Sprague KR2 N118DS Houston, Texas_______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:04:39 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>I-KRFN first flight Message-ID: <40558DC7.00000D.03896@Computer> References: <002301c40a68$6a5ef0e0$dfc83052@r9a7v5> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 20 Great news. Please send flight reports. =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:50:33 AM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: KR>I-KRFN first flight=0D =0D Hi netters=0D Yesterday sunday 14 at 16.00 my KR2 I-KRFN airborne.=0D My KR is a standard plan built with Rotax 912ULS 80 hp Dihel taildragger landing gear , pulsar canopy and speed brake.=0D Empty weight is 283 Kgs ( about 623 lbs)=0D Absolutely no problems about take off, flying and landing , I've landed a= t about 50 kts without the speed brake , no float.=0D I am very very happy.=0D Ciao=0D Franco Negri=0D Omegna=0D Italy=0D I-KRFN=0D =0D See my KR at www.negri.cjb.net=0D =0D _______________________________________=0D to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net=0D please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html=0D =2E ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 341, Issue 1 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================