From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 10 Date: 4/1/2004 3:50:44 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kr2 Wanted (peter) 2. RE: KR2 Purchase (Brian Kraut) 3. RE: Opening the Engine (Brian Kraut) 4. KR2 on EBay (AKAVIE@aol.com) 5. RE: Re: prop bolts (Brian Kraut) 6. RE: kr2 purchase? (Brian Kraut) 7. KR2 on EBay update/ TriGear (John Bouyea) 8. Re: Opening the Engine (Orma Robbins) 9. RE: KR2 on EBay update/ TriGear (Brian Kraut) 10. Skinning spars (Stowers) 11. Re: Trigear (Gavin Donohoe) 12. I'm 6'2". Would someone like me fit into a KR2? (Dan Heath) 13. Re: sell my KR-2 project (Dan Heath) 14. Re: Skinning spars (Mark Jones) 15. N56ML first flight report! (Mark Langford) 16. Re: N56ML first flight report! (Dennis Dyer) 17. Re: N56ML first flight report! (joe spencer) 18. Re: N56ML first flight report! (skphil@charter.net) 19. Should I buy? (M83benz1@cs.com) 20. Re: Should I buy? (Bob Stone) 21. Kr2 (Ryan) 22. Re: N56ML first flight report! (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 23. New website (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 24. Re: Kr2 Wanted (FRED HARMS) 25. Re: N56ML first flight report! (Steve Eberhart) 26. Re: Skinning spars (Dean Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:46:28 -0800 From: "peter" Subject: Re: KR> Kr2 Wanted To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002401c4179b$eb82bcc0$d18a8843@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I know it's not what you asked for but I'm planning to sell my KR-2 project that is almost complete. I'm in Ridgecrest CA about 225 miles north of you. Any interest? I'm planning to post a list of what it has and how far along things are as soon as I get the post together. For starters theres a revmaster 2100d, instuments,radio,transponder lights, etc. I may part it out too. -Peter- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: KR> Kr2 Wanted > I am in San Diego, CA. and am looking for a FLYING Kr2 to buy. > > Ryan > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:26:33 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> KR2 Purchase To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One consideration is to make sure you get a building log, pictures, material receipts, and whatever else you can to substantiate that the plane was amateur built. I had that discussion a few months ago when I was considering buying a KR with no builders log or pictures. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of rhartwig11@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:35 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> KR2 Purchase I believe the rule states that as long as 51% of the plane is built by amateurs it can get experimental certification (even if the person making application had only done 10% percent of the work.) That person would probably not be able to prove he/she had done enough work to get the mechanics certificate. Dick Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwig11@juno.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:26:32 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Opening the Engine To: "Orma Robbins" , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just curious Orma, how many flight hours does 19 years in your KR add up to? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Orma Robbins Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:29 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Opening the Engine Hi Net Well, Tweete(N110LR) is in the process of having it's engine torn down and removed. I first flew in 1984, and currently have somewhere around 500 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:39:53 EST From: AKAVIE@aol.com Subject: KR> KR2 on EBay To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I too saw the KR2 on ebay and am very interested in the plane. I talked with the current owner and it appears to have had a nose gear collapse, but the damage is minimal. It had its last annual in 10/92 so it hasn't been flown in quite awhile. The current owner has had it for about a year and stored it inside. However, the previous owner stored it outside under a tarp. The current owner built other planes before and he says the workmanship is very good. From what I could ascertain, it looks like a decent ship, although it needs a bit of work. I'm seriously interested in the plane, but I do have one concern. I'm 6'2". Would someone like me fit into a KR2? Regards, Andy Kavie akavie@aol.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:48:01 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Re: prop bolts To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had nylon locknuts on mine and was told by someone that they should be castelated nuts with cotter pins so I changed them. I found that if they are not orientated the right way the bent ends of the cotter pins tent to try to straighten out from the centrifugal force. I asked Ed Sterba what he recommended and he told me that he prefers nylon locknuts for two reasons. One is that you are a lot more likely to retorque the nuts regularly like you are supposed to with a wood prop. The second reason is that you can torque the nut to just the right torque unlike with a castelated nut where the correct torqe is always between to castelations lining up with the cotter pin hole. My personal opinion is that nylon lock nuts are best. I would not use an all metal lock nut. They are made for higher temperatures and are not necessary for the prop nuts. They also loose their locking ability after being put on and taken off more than a few times. As far as I know the only difference in a prop bolt is that it is drilled in three locations on the bolt head. This is so you will be sure of having a hole in the correct place for safety wire. I believe these are used on a hub that is threaded for the bolts. You don't safety wire the head of the bolt when you have a nut on the other end. Someone correct me if I am wrong on this. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Joseph H. Horton Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:48 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Re: prop bolts Gang, What is the proper nut to use on the prop bolts? I have bolts that were listed as prop bolts but they only have a drilled head. I bought steel self locking nuts and the castle nylock nuts hoping one or the other would be correct. Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:51:04 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> kr2 purchase? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mine was flying and had 118 hours on it. I put it in my garage for an estimated three months and $1,500 to change to fixed gear and a few other mods. A year and three months and about $6,000 later it was flying again. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:17 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> kr2 purchase? When I bought my first KR2, it was advertised as 90% complete. Having never seen one before, I had no reason to doubt it. 6 years of persistent hard work later, I took it to the airport. 1 year after that, it was flying. If you know anyone who is familiar with this plane or any homebuilt, have them look at it for you. If not, get your EAA technical counselor. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:51:44 -0800 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR> KR2 on EBay update/ TriGear To: "KRNet" Message-ID: <000201c417a5$0851d580$0201a8c0@dell4600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I did not hook up with the seller Tuesday. The message I posted came from the conversation I had with the seller. He stated he traded one vehicle for another and thus came by the KR2. He is an Ultralight pilot according to his son. The KR2 was built in Eugene, Oregon by a man named "Gattis." It apparently has 19 hours on the Hobbs. It is a Great Plains 1835. The current owner acquired it less than 2 years ago. The story goes the former owner (not sure if this was the builder) had the nose gear fold on a landing. The prop broke and damage occurred to the lower cowl. According to the seller, it is a Diehl gear setup. The seller said there were 3 revisions of the nose gear strut. The first was fiberglass. Dan recalled those units. This KR2 had the .040" wall thickness and it failed. It was replaced by the current Diehl production strut unit. (My current Diehl nose gear strut measures apprx.125" in wall thickness.) I called the seller to arrange another chance to visit tomorrow. I update you then. Cheers! John Bouyea KR2 - hanging the engine accessories (still waiting for my RevMaster SS exhaust) KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters john_0310@bouyea.net www.bouyea.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:59:29 -0500 From: "Orma Robbins" Subject: Re: KR> Opening the Engine To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010001c417a6$1e5c1e20$e33ed445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "How many flight hours" Hi Brian Well, it's hard to say, my hobbs meter quit at 250 hours and that was over 15 years ago. I didn't log the time. A guess is somewhere over 500. Orma L. Robbins Southfield MI 19 Years flying KR-2 N110LR http://www.aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 00:01:06 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> KR2 on EBay update/ TriGear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would count on pulling the crank and having it magnafluxed, and likely replaced. After I bought my KR I called some of the previous owners and one of them told me that the person he sold it to had a prop strike. That person denied it, but the prop looked new and I wasn't going to take any chances. When it was magnafluxed the shop told me they found the biggest crack through the keyway that they had ever seen. After changing to a new Force 1 hub and a new crank and all the bearings, etc. I changed while the enine was apart I put $1,000 of unexpected expenses into an engine with only 118 hours on it. I would figure that right into the purchase price of this one. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of John Bouyea Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:52 PM To: KRNet Subject: KR> KR2 on EBay update/ TriGear I did not hook up with the seller Tuesday. The message I posted came from the conversation I had with the seller. He stated he traded one vehicle for another and thus came by the KR2. He is an Ultralight pilot according to his son. The KR2 was built in Eugene, Oregon by a man named "Gattis." It apparently has 19 hours on the Hobbs. It is a Great Plains 1835. The current owner acquired it less than 2 years ago. The story goes the former owner (not sure if this was the builder) had the nose gear fold on a landing. The prop broke and damage occurred to the lower cowl. According to the seller, it is a Diehl gear setup. The seller said there were 3 revisions of the nose gear strut. The first was fiberglass. Dan recalled those units. This KR2 had the .040" wall thickness and it failed. It was replaced by the current Diehl production strut unit. (My current Diehl nose gear strut measures apprx.125" in wall thickness.) I called the seller to arrange another chance to visit tomorrow. I update you then. Cheers! John Bouyea KR2 - hanging the engine accessories (still waiting for my RevMaster SS exhaust) KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters john_0310@bouyea.net www.bouyea.net _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:39:55 -0600 From: "Stowers" Subject: KR> Skinning spars To: "krnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Do I need to skin both sides of the outer spars and what does the plans call for. From the best I can tell it says to just cover one side completely. Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s flynredneck@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:48:02 +1000 From: "Gavin Donohoe" Subject: Re: KR> Trigear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006601c417ae$36de4060$eb4d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I own a Grumman Tiger and let me say the nose wheel is only the weak link if the torque tube is delaminating !!! There is nothing wrong with the design, and the aircraft should be treated the same as any other tri undercart aircraft. Most of the prop strikes are when the glue holding the torque tube together fails and the whole assembly fails. Gav Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: KR> Trigear > I have to agree with Larry and say that any trigear setup can be collapsed. One must remember to protect the nose gear by continuing the back pressure increase throughout the flare until the nose settles on its own, or damage can occur. The Grumman Tiger, Cheetah, Traveler, and Lynx all have the same type nose wheel, and it fairs them well, but is the weak link. This is where I have preached that one NEEDS to learn how to fly into ground effect first, and then establish a landing attitude followed by a gradual flare as the airspeed bleeds off. All too often pilots get in a hurry to get into the flare attitude on the descent, and they are very near the stall when they enter ground effect. They try to continue flaring only to find too little airspeed, and too little elevator left to flare, so the nose drops as they drop crashing to the runway, smashing into a 3 point which overloads the nose gear. Descend down final, round out into ground effect and pause as you fly in ground effe > > Colin & Bev Rainey > KR2(td) N96TA > Sanford, FL > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 22/03/2004 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:00:01 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> I'm 6'2". Would someone like me fit into a KR2? To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <406BF631.000003.00408@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, but since it probably was not built for YOU, it may take a lot of re-work to make that happen. Check carefully for water damage, as it was stored outside. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:03:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Re: sell my KR-2 project To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <406BF711.000005.00408@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Peter, Do you have a Revmaster cowling? In case you sell parts, I am interested. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 06:09:40 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Skinning spars To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002301c417e2$36567520$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KR-2 calls for one side....KR-2S calls for both sides. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stowers" To: "krnet" Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: KR> Skinning spars > Do I need to skin both sides of the outer spars and what does the > plans call for. From the best I can tell it says to just cover one side completely. > > Jerry Stowers > Duncan, Ok. > www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s > flynredneck@hotmail.com _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:00:47 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> N56ML first flight report! To: Message-ID: <01aa01c417e9$5bc962c0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Some of y'all might have noticed no updates to my site lately. That's because I've been busy flying N56ML! I got tired of messing around with paint, so I got a case of white Rustoleum spray cans from Walmart and just got the paint job thing behind me. It looks "good enough for KR". Bolted in some inertia reel seatbelts from an old Karmann Ghia, used Vice-Grips for the canopy latches. Got it signed off last week (he didn't notice the missing latches), and flew it for the first time on Saturday. Not much to tell so far, other than it flys like a dream, has a top speed of 235 mph straight and level, and stalls at 38 mph with full "barndoor" flaps. No pitch sensitivity at all. Climb rate is an amazing 3000 fpm. Great flying plane, hands off! And let's not forget that it's April Fools Day, so you can't really trust anything anybody says or writes on the Internet anyway. You never know when somebody might be joking with you... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 05:12:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Dyer Subject: Re: KR> N56ML first flight report! To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040401131201.86D6F7263@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain Nice going Mark! I thought that was you flying over my place in the mountains of Colorado yesterday! After 47 years it's about time ;~) By the way got my stickers yesterday, they're great (that ain't a joke) Dennis Dyer Pine, CO --- "Mark Langford" wrote: Some of y'all might have noticed no updates to my site lately. That's because I've been busy flying N56ML! * * * * And let's not forget that it's April Fools Day, so you can't really trust anything anybody says or writes on the Internet anyway. You never know when somebody might be joking with you... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _____________________________________________________________ Get your free e-mail address http://www.mtnguy.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:14:41 -0600 From: joe spencer Subject: Re: KR> N56ML first flight report! To: KRnet Message-ID: <000d01c417eb$4b7f3dc0$5f6974cc@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mark you old dog!!............Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:00 AM Subject: KR> N56ML first flight report! > Some of y'all might have noticed no updates to my site lately. That's > because I've been busy flying N56ML! I got tired of messing around > with paint, so I got a case of white Rustoleum spray cans from Walmart > and just > got the paint job thing behind me. It looks "good enough for KR". > Bolted in some inertia reel seatbelts from an old Karmann Ghia, used > Vice-Grips for > the canopy latches. Got it signed off last week (he didn't notice the > missing latches), and flew it for the first time on Saturday. > > Not much to tell so far, other than it flys like a dream, has a top > speed of > 235 mph straight and level, and stalls at 38 mph with full "barndoor" flaps. > No pitch sensitivity at all. Climb rate is an amazing 3000 fpm. > Great flying plane, hands off! > > And let's not forget that it's April Fools Day, so you can't really > trust anything anybody says or writes on the Internet anyway. You > never know when > somebody might be joking with you... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:30:50 +0000 From: Subject: Re: KR> N56ML first flight report! To: KRnet Message-ID: <200404011330.i31DUoOT012754@mxsf21.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I knew you would be the first prankster of the day. I really am looking for your first report. You are among the ones I have been following since I started this journey 3 years ago. Keep up the good work. P.S. when do you find time to work on your project? Oh yea eight years in the making. Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Al Table stage > > From: "Mark Langford" > Date: 2004/04/01 Thu PM 01:00:47 GMT > To: > Subject: KR> N56ML first flight report! > > Some of y'all might have noticed no updates to my site lately. That's > because I've been busy flying N56ML! I got tired of messing around > with paint, so I got a case of white Rustoleum spray cans from Walmart > and just got the paint job thing behind me. It looks "good enough > for KR". Bolted in some inertia reel seatbelts from an old Karmann > Ghia, used Vice-Grips for the canopy latches. Got it signed off last > week (he didn't notice the missing latches), and flew it for the first > time on Saturday. > > Not much to tell so far, other than it flys like a dream, has a top > speed of 235 mph straight and level, and stalls at 38 mph with full > "barndoor" flaps. No pitch sensitivity at all. Climb rate is an > amazing 3000 fpm. Great flying plane, hands off! > > And let's not forget that it's April Fools Day, so you can't really > trust anything anybody says or writes on the Internet anyway. You > never know when somebody might be joking with you... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:56:52 EST From: M83benz1@cs.com Subject: KR> Should I buy? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <3f.29d86d8f.2d9d79a4@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, Being new to the KR net work I'm not sure how it works. I have a chance to buy a KR1. It was completed 14 years ago. It was N. numbered and flown once. It scared to builder so much that he put it away. The builder has since past on and the KR is for sale. The craft only has a few basic instruments. The seller is asking $8000.00 for it. Is this to much to pay? Thanks Cliff ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:48:26 -0600 From: "Bob Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Should I buy? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000f01c417f8$63d13600$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cliff, The value of any KR depends on many things. Quality of workmanship, current condition. Equipment intalled, etc. $8000.00 sounds reasonable to me providing the workmanship is good, and it has a VW engine in good working order and basic VFR instruments. The only way to really tell what you are buying is look at it and if possible take someone with you that is familar with the KR aircraft. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:56 AM Subject: KR> Should I buy? > Hi, Being new to the KR net work I'm not sure how it works. I have a chance > to buy a KR1. It was completed 14 years ago. It was N. numbered and > flown once. > It scared to builder so much that he put it away. The builder has > since past > on and the KR is for sale. The craft only has a few basic > instruments. The > seller is asking $8000.00 for it. Is this to much to pay? Thanks Cliff > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:15:05 -0800 From: "Ryan" Subject: KR> Kr2 To: Message-ID: <002101c417fc$1d57b060$6501a8c0@san.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Peter, Send photos. rryan@san.rr.com Ryan ====== I'm in Ridgecrest CA about 225 miles north of you. -Peter- ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:44:34 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> N56ML first flight report! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005201c41821$c2acfa00$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, We can always count on you to come up with a good one on this particular day. Pretty funny!! But I bet you're getting pretty close to giving us all a real report. I for one am looking forward to it. The old link to the page I had didn't work any more, not sure just why, but anyway I made a new one, and I have posted the URL below. Bud Midkiff KR2S Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/res18ums/id5.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:00 AM Subject: KR> N56ML first flight report! > snip< ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:47:43 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: KR> New website To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005b01c41822$3370c640$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry about that. the correct url is below. The one I sent before was the last page of the site I guess. http://mysite.verizon.net/res18ums/index.html Bud Midkiff KR2S Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:16:36 -0800 From: "FRED HARMS" Subject: Re: KR> Kr2 Wanted To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Peter, What are you asking for the complete KR-2 project? email me at fredandglenda@msn.com Fred >From: "peter" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR> Kr2 Wanted >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:46:28 -0800 > >I know it's not what you asked for but I'm planning to sell my KR-2 >project that is almost complete. I'm in Ridgecrest CA about 225 miles >north of you. Any interest? > >I'm planning to post a list of what it has and how far along things are >as soon as I get the post together. For starters theres a revmaster >2100d, instuments,radio,transponder lights, etc. > >I may part it out too. > >-Peter- > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ryan" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:06 AM >Subject: KR> Kr2 Wanted > > > > I am in San Diego, CA. and am looking for a FLYING Kr2 to buy. > > > > Ryan > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:42:47 -0600 From: Steve Eberhart Subject: Re: KR> N56ML first flight report! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <406C7EC7.7040609@newtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed April 1, 2004 Hi Mark, Congratulations on your flight of the new AS5046 airfoil. Forwarded your post to Dr. Selig at the University. Just got a reply and he cautioned you to remember that the wind tunnel tests, on the AS504x series airfoils, were performed on April 1, 1999 :-) Enjoy the day Steve Eberhart Mark Langford wrote: > Some of y'all might have noticed no updates to my site lately. That's > because I've been busy flying N56ML! I got tired of messing around > with paint, so I got a case of white Rustoleum spray cans from Walmart > and just got the paint job thing behind me. It looks "good enough > for KR". Bolted in some inertia reel seatbelts from an old Karmann > Ghia, used Vice-Grips for the canopy latches. Got it signed off last > week (he didn't notice the missing latches), and flew it for the first > time on Saturday. > > Not much to tell so far, other than it flys like a dream, has a top > speed of 235 mph straight and level, and stalls at 38 mph with full > "barndoor" flaps. No pitch sensitivity at all. Climb rate is an > amazing 3000 fpm. Great flying plane, hands off! > > And let's not forget that it's April Fools Day, so you can't really > trust anything anybody says or writes on the Internet anyway. You > never know when somebody might be joking with you... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:50:16 -0500 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> Skinning spars To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <0a2201c41844$1604e9c0$0502a8c0@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark wrote: > KR-2 calls for one side....KR-2S calls for both sides. One addition is the KR2 calls for 12" of skin on the forward side of the main spar at the WAF's in addition to full skin on the aft side of the main spar. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 10 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================