From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 127 Date: 6/30/2004 9:00:00 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ELT Source (Mark Jones) 2. canopy swap (Brian Kraut) 3. Airworthines Goal (Mark Jones) 4. Re: Arlington Roll Call (Al Friesen) 5. Re: KRs and taxes (The Weber's) 6. Re: RE: KR> spar skins (skphil@charter.net) 7. Re: KRs and taxes (Mark Jones) 8. Re: KRs and taxes (Al Friesen) 9. Re: RE: KR> spar skins (Mark Langford) 10. Re: unsubscribe (nette1326@aol.com) 11. RE: RE: KR> spar skins (Brian Kraut) 12. Re: unsubscribe (John Lindner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:30:44 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> ELT Source To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006901c45ef1$e2bbbc20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan, here is the link http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page13.htm Aircraft Spruce also has the same AK450 ELT ten bucks cheaper at $179.95. I just bought mine from AS&S a month ago. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:37 AM Subject: KR> ELT Source > Someone posted a good source for ELT and I saved it, but cannot find > it. I > searched the archives for the past 3 months and cannot find it. > Please reply off net to > > DanRH@Alltel.net > > if you have that link. > > Thanks, > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired." > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. > Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:46:56 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> canopy swap To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a new tinted Rand 2S canopy that I would like to trade for a untinted one. I realize it is a long shot, but if anyone has a clear one and wants a tinted one let me know. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:28:43 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Airworthines Goal To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <00d101c45ef9$fc1ad0e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Some of you may remember that I had publicly set a goal of having an airworthy plane by July 1st. Well, that is tomorrow and unless a plane can fly with only a left wing, it does not look like I will meet that goal. I could work all night but I do not think I could build a right wing by morning. Anybody have a right wing for sale? I want to fly!!!! My new goal is to fly to the Gathering. I can definitely do that in a Warrior but I am setting my goal to fly my KR to the Gathering. If I do manage to achieve that goal, the plane will most likely be in primer and still need some body work to make it show quality. Hmmmmmmm, sounds like a good winter project. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:43:49 -0800 From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Re: KR> Arlington Roll Call To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007001c45f0c$dc4c9830$b53506cf@alk1e9f7i3pcg3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gang, I am going to be at Arlington, site EF12 with a BUFF Dodge XTC motorhome. I will have photos of my project and may take the construction video as well. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bouyea" To: "KRNet" Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: KR> Arlington Roll Call > Arlington is just 8 days away. Who's planning on attending? Will it > be the > same guys at the fire pit Saturday morning at 10? > > > > John Bouyea > > KR2 - hanging the engine accessories > > KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters > > > > john_0310@bouyea.net > > > > www.bouyea.net > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:58:04 -0500 From: "The Weber's" Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008801c45f06$7865da80$a9cab4d8@hppav> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark: Did you make it clear that it is an experimantal? My registration expires upon sale of airplane. Joe Weber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:49 PM Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > Joe, > I received a letter and a phone call from the state of Wisconsin concerning > registration and taxes. You must pay state taxes, a registration fee > and registration renewal fees biannually. Better check their > requirements again. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Weber's" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > In Wisconsin there is a one time fee of $50 to register a > > homebuilt or > an > > antique. As for sales tax, I drove to Wicks an pickedup the first > shipment. > > Thus I paid about $93 sales tax. I sent a copy of the invoice with > > my reistration application. I received the registration today. > > Joe Weber > > Cuba City, Wis. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "larry flesner" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:42 AM > > Subject: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > > > > >In Illinois, there is no personal property tax. > > > I have no idea if it is > > > >taxed by the state as a vehicle, Larry Flesner could answer that > > > >question. Larry Lipe > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > State of Illinois: > > > > > > I pay a $25 fee every other year to register the Tripacer with the > state. > > > They have not sent me a bill/registration yet for the KR and I wasn't > > > going to ask for one. > > > > > > They recently changed some procedures where you have to pay sales > > > tax on any aircraft purchased from any party regardless of location. > > > I paid no sales tax on the Tripacer when I purchased it but today it > > > would have cost me over $900. To quote a line from the musical > > > "Big River", "gosh dang government, the dirty sons-a-bitches". > > > > > > Enough said. > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 1:03:51 +0000 From: Subject: Re: RE: KR> spar skins To: KRnet Message-ID: <3948sc$22qpqt@mxip09a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Brian, I think I will be ordering 2 4x8 sheets of Birch.(for spars only). If anyone needs to stop me let me know. Steven Phillabaum Auburn Alabama> > Use M90. > > I used Mahogany but it did cost a lot. My last two KRs had a lighter > colored wood that I assumed was birch but I was not sure. It wasn't until I > received the mahogany and saw how dark the color was that I realized that > the other ones were not mahogany. > > The Finnish birch is prety cheap. I don't know if it is acceptable or not > though. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:14:03 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c45f08$b5ff48c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe, You are correct about the one time registration of $50 for an experimental. I read the info they sent me incorrectly. We do still have to pay the taxes though. Thanks for setting me straight on this. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Weber's" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > Mark: > Did you make it clear that it is an experimantal? My registration expires > upon sale of airplane. > Joe Weber > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > Joe, > > I received a letter and a phone call from the state of Wisconsin > concerning > > registration and taxes. You must pay state taxes, a registration fee and > > registration renewal fees biannually. Better check their requirements > again. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Weber's" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:50 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > > > > In Wisconsin there is a one time fee of $50 to register a homebuilt or > > an > > > antique. As for sales tax, I drove to Wicks an pickedup the first > > shipment. > > > Thus I paid about $93 sales tax. I sent a copy of the invoice with my > > > reistration application. I received the registration today. > > > Joe Weber > > > Cuba City, Wis. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "larry flesner" > > > To: "KRnet" > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:42 AM > > > Subject: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > > > > > > > >In Illinois, there is no personal property tax. > > > > I have no idea if it is > > > > >taxed by the state as a vehicle, Larry Flesner could > > > > >answer that question. > > > > >Larry Lipe > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > > State of Illinois: > > > > > > > > I pay a $25 fee every other year to register the Tripacer with the > > state. > > > > They have not sent me a bill/registration yet for the KR and I wasn't > > > > going to ask for one. > > > > > > > > They recently changed some procedures where you have to pay sales > > > > tax on any aircraft purchased from any party regardless of location. > > > > I paid no sales tax on the Tripacer when I purchased it but today it > > > > would have cost me over $900. To quote a line from the musical > > > > "Big River", "gosh dang government, the dirty sons-a-bitches". > > > > > > > > Enough said. > > > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:48:06 -0800 From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00aa01c45f15$d661ebb0$b53506cf@alk1e9f7i3pcg3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" All, I thought the USA was a low tax area but we in Canada pay one tax ( in the province of registry) which in my case is 7.5% paid on materials incorporated in the project as you purchase the parts. We pay a one time registration fee to the fed of about $175.00. No yearly taxes are assessed. Nav Canada charges a fee to A/C owners when over the 1200 lbs gross. Some or all of this info may be full of bs so correct me you canucks. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > Joe, > I received a letter and a phone call from the state of Wisconsin concerning > registration and taxes. You must pay state taxes, a registration fee and > registration renewal fees biannually. Better check their requirements again. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Weber's" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > In Wisconsin there is a one time fee of $50 to register a homebuilt or > an > > antique. As for sales tax, I drove to Wicks an pickedup the first > shipment. > > Thus I paid about $93 sales tax. I sent a copy of the invoice with my > > reistration application. I received the registration today. > > Joe Weber > > Cuba City, Wis. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "larry flesner" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:42 AM > > Subject: KR> KRs and taxes > > > > > > > >In Illinois, there is no personal property tax. > > > I have no idea if it is > > > >taxed by the state as a vehicle, Larry Flesner could > > > >answer that question. > > > >Larry Lipe > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > State of Illinois: > > > > > > I pay a $25 fee every other year to register the Tripacer with the > state. > > > They have not sent me a bill/registration yet for the KR and I wasn't > > > going to ask for one. > > > > > > They recently changed some procedures where you have to pay sales > > > tax on any aircraft purchased from any party regardless of location. > > > I paid no sales tax on the Tripacer when I purchased it but today it > > > would have cost me over $900. To quote a line from the musical > > > "Big River", "gosh dang government, the dirty sons-a-bitches". > > > > > > Enough said. > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:35:02 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: RE: KR> spar skins To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007001c45f14$0331b370$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steven Phillabaum wrote: > I think I will be ordering 2 4x8 sheets of Birch.(for spars only). If anyone needs to stop me let me know. You're right about the cedar. That's the one place on the plane that birch is required, rather than mahogony. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:09:18 EDT From: nette1326@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> unsubscribe To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1eb.242cb8d3.2e14da5e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" please reve me from list. thank you ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:12:42 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: RE: KR> spar skins To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark, can you elaborate on the statement that birch is required rather than mahogany. My plans say "3 ply mahogany, birch or poplar center" on page 19. I bought mahogany with a poplar center. That is the only thing in the Wicks catalog that I was completely sure was in accordance with what was asked for. Who said anything about cedar? The only thing we use that for around here is the bottom of my son's hamster cage. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:35 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: RE: KR> spar skins Steven Phillabaum wrote: > I think I will be ordering 2 4x8 sheets of Birch.(for spars only). If anyone needs to stop me let me know. You're right about the cedar. That's the one place on the plane that birch is required, rather than mahogony. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:50:58 -0400 From: "John Lindner" Subject: Re: KR> unsubscribe To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c45f1e$9e558980$0300a8c0@solarium> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" all you gotta do is write an email to KRnet-leave@mylist.net to be removed. john ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: Re: KR> unsubscribe > please reve me from list. thank you > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 127 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================