From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 141 Date: 9/29/2004 4:14:02 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Adjustable Rudder Pedals (Mark Youkey) 2. Re: Adjustable Rudder Pedals (Barry Kruyssen) 3. Re: 2004 Gathering Photos (patrusso) 4. Re: 2004 Gathering Photos (Mark Langford) 5. Use extreme caution. (Mark Jones) 6. RE: 2004 Gathering Photos (Bob Lee) 7. Re: 2004 Gathering Photos (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 8. R?f. : Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos (Serge VIDAL) 9. Re:Germany trip (Mark Langford) 10. RE: Ken Thomas (Mike) 11. R?f. : KR> Re:Germany trip (Serge VIDAL) 12. Re: RE: Ken Thomas (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 13. Re: RE: Ken Thomas (Russ Fenlason) 14. Re: RE: Ken Thomas (F Ross) 15. Re: G limit (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 16. Re: Re:Germany trip (john adkins) 17. Re: Adjustable Rudder Pedals (Jack Cooper) 18. Re: G limit (Wesley Scott) 19. Adjustable Rudder Pedals (Oscar Zuniga) 20. RE: Adjustable Rudder Pedals (Jack Cooper) 21. RE: Adjustable Rudder Pedals (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 22. Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 140 (Jumpnkd@aol.com) 23. (no subject) (patrusso) 24. RE: Big Splashers (Mark Jones) 25. RE: Big Splashers (Dana Overall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:37:51 -0500 From: "Mark Youkey" Subject: Re: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003401c4a5de$147f3420$6500a8c0@blah> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks everybody for the input. I'm still not sure how I'm going to solve the problem, but I've made some progress. I made a device to try out and weigh, but now my problem is...I don't know how much a standard set of rudder pedals weighs, so I don't know if I'm doing good or bad. Does anyone know how much their pedals and hinges setup weighs? Chris, I'm still interested in seeing your Katana's design, if you don't mind. If my design works and is close to or better than plans weight, I'll post how I did it. If not, who knows...I may post how I didn't do it. Thanks again. Mark Youkey myoukey@cox.net Oklahoma City ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:44:56 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002f01c4a5e7$75515770$7000a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Post anyway, someone might learn something from your design or may have a constructive idear. Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/KR2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Youkey Subject: Re: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals If my design works and is close to or better than plans weight, I'll post how I did it. If not, who knows...I may post how I didn't do it. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:01:23 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003b01c4a613$b3fb5940$e9b272d8@3z4xt01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" John, one of your gathering fotos had a VW engine with a carb mounted atop the case. Do you recall who owns that one? Pat in Vt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bouyea" To: "'KRNet'" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:05 AM Subject: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos > We'll have to wait for Mark Langford's photos and we know it will be > worth it. In the meanwhile you can view some engine installation > pictures and a bit on miscellaneous other stuff at: http://www.bouyea.net > Click the 2004 Gathering link on the home page to > get started and click on any thumbnail to see a full size image. > > > > This was my first Gathering and it will not be my last! Thanks to everyone > for sharing their knowledge and experience. I'm going to be much more > effective in the shop working on getting mine finished. > > > > John Bouyea > > KR2 - hanging the engine accessories > > KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters > > > > john_0310@bouyea.net > > > > www.bouyea.net > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:03:29 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004101c4a61c$55b050d0$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat wrote: > John, one of your gathering fotos had a VW engine with a carb mounted > atop the case. Do you recall who owns that one? Steve Bennett (of Great Plains Aircraft fame) has an Ellison carb mounted on top of the VW in his "KR1.5". He said he immediately picked up 200 or 300 rpm just by moving it up top. There are pictures of it near the top of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/barkley2000/ . I'm glad you guys are throwing your pictures out there. That takes a load off of me. I haven't touched my airplane or my Gathering pictures since I got home, and am about to take off for two weeks on vacation, and I'm not expecting an internet connection while I'm gone (Europe), so it'll be a while before I get around to publishing mine... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:18:50 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> Use extreme caution. To: CorvAircraft , KR Net Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902BB2@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain Sadly, we lost one of our local builders (not KR related) here last night. This gentleman lives only a couple miles from where I work. He was testing running his engine in his back yard yesterday evening when he was struck by the prop causing fatal injuries. Please use extreme caution when working around a live engine. I know a lot of you cautioned me when you viewed the photo of be only inches behind my turning prop but believe me the plane was well secured and I have had many hours working around live engines. So, please be cautious and be safe. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:16:28 -0400 From: "Bob Lee" Subject: RE: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark, I can't tell if you are bragging or complaining? Anyway, have a great vacation, you will need the rest so that you can finish your KR. Regards, Bob Lee KR2 N52BL 91% done only 54% to go! -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+bob=flyboybob.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+bob=flyboybob.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:03 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos Pat wrote: > John, one of your gathering fotos had a VW engine with a carb mounted > atop the case. Do you recall who owns that one? Steve Bennett (of Great Plains Aircraft fame) has an Ellison carb mounted on top of the VW in his "KR1.5". He said he immediately picked up 200 or 300 rpm just by moving it up top. There are pictures of it near the top of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/barkley2000/ . I'm glad you guys are throwing your pictures out there. That takes a load off of me. I haven't touched my airplane or my Gathering pictures since I got home, and am about to take off for two weeks on vacation, and I'm not expecting an internet connection while I'm gone (Europe), so it'll be a while before I get around to publishing mine... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:15:13 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040929.081518.2468.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would also like to know, Virg On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:01:23 -0400 "patrusso" writes: > John, one of your gathering fotos had a VW engine with a carb mounted > atop > the case. Do you recall who owns that one? > Pat in Vt. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Bouyea" > To: "'KRNet'" > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:05 AM > Subject: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos > > > > We'll have to wait for Mark Langford's photos and we know it will > be worth > > it. In the meanwhile you can view some engine installation > pictures and a > > bit on miscellaneous other stuff at: http://www.bouyea.net > > Click the 2004 Gathering link on the > home page > to > > get started and click on any thumbnail to see a full size image. > > > > > > > > This was my first Gathering and it will not be my last! Thanks > to > everyone > > for sharing their knowledge and experience. I'm going to be much > more > > effective in the shop working on getting mine finished. > > > > > > > > John Bouyea > > > > KR2 - hanging the engine accessories > > > > KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters > > > > > > > > john_0310@bouyea.net > > > > > > > > www.bouyea.net > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:31:32 +0200 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France "Mark Langford" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2004-09-29 14:03 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2004-09-29 14:03 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> 2004 Gathering Photos Pat wrote: > John, one of your gathering fotos had a VW engine with a carb mounted atop > the case. Do you recall who owns that one? Steve Bennett (of Great Plains Aircraft fame) has an Ellison carb mounted on top of the VW in his "KR1.5". He said he immediately picked up 200 or 300 rpm just by moving it up top. There are pictures of it near the top of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/barkley2000/ . I'm glad you guys are throwing your pictures out there. That takes a load off of me. I haven't touched my airplane or my Gathering pictures since I got home, and am about to take off for two weeks on vacation, and I'm not expecting an internet connection while I'm gone (Europe), so it'll be a while before I get around to publishing mine... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:58:34 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> Re:Germany trip To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005301c4a624$07b71910$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Serge wrote: > Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. I lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and another year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their way of life... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:01:34 -0400 From: "Mike" Subject: KR> RE: Ken Thomas To: Message-ID: <000601c4a624$f6aa83e0$6400a8c0@wnrho7gbmpnr8s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was looking at the gathering pics and saw Ken Thomas's KR and noticed 3, yes, 3 valve covers. I was only there on saturday afternoon and didnt see his plane in person. What's up with the 3 covers? ? ? ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:09:30 +0200 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : KR> Re:Germany trip To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Too bad. I would have jumped at the opportunity! After all, you're one of my favourite heroes! ;-) Serge "Mark Langford" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2004-09-29 14:58 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2004-09-29 14:59 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Re:Germany trip Serge wrote: > Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. I lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and another year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their way of life... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:42:25 GMT From: "jscott.pilot@juno.com" Subject: Re: KR> RE: Ken Thomas To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040929.064257.11674.1104788@webmail02.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain I believe he has the six cylinder Jabaru engine. I really wanted to get a good look at it, but didn't get the chance. Jeff Scott -- "Mike" wrote: I was looking at the gathering pics and saw Ken Thomas's KR and noticed 3, yes, 3 valve covers. I was only there on saturday afternoon and didnt see his plane in person. What's up with the 3 covers? ? ? _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:45:09 -0700 From: "Russ Fenlason" Subject: Re: KR> RE: Ken Thomas To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00cc01c4a643$aeda7ab0$0200a8c0@AMBULANCKRM15J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ken Thomas's engine was the jabaroo 3300 six cylinder the third "valve cover" was the fully machined crankcase. Nice looking engine.. Russ Fenlason Breckenridge, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:01 AM Subject: KR> RE: Ken Thomas > I was looking at the gathering pics and saw Ken Thomas's KR and > noticed 3, yes, 3 valve covers. I was only there on saturday afternoon and didnt see his plane in person. What's up with the 3 covers? ? ? > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: Re: KR> RE: Ken Thomas To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040929144615.70947.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It is a Jabiru six-cylinder engine. Very smooth. --- Mike wrote: > I was looking at the gathering pics and saw Ken > Thomas's KR and noticed 3, yes, 3 valve covers. I > was only there on saturday afternoon and didnt see > his plane in person. What's up with the 3 covers? ? ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:19:51 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> G limit To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011201c4a637$c4facf40$854a9445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If I remember correctly, figures from Jeannette Rand, stated that each 6" added to the wing length, decreases the "G" load factor by 1/2 G. (please this my re-call and not necessarily accurate). This being true, and I increased my fuselage width by 4", and my center spar by 6", does that add 2" to the actual wingth length or 6" ? Ray Goree raybeth123@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry severson" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: KR> G limit > Physics is Physics. > > If a plane at a given weight will support a given G load, changing the > weight changes the G load capability proportionately. The 100 lbs = 1 > G is a nice, easy, safe way to calculate capability for planes in the > weight/size of the KR2. The same ratio would work for the Q2. > > No, the plane's max G load does not drop that fast, but safe is better > than > sorry. It can be applied without the need for a calculator or any deep > thought. > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:32:19 -0500 From: "john adkins" Subject: Re: KR> Re:Germany trip To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004101c4a639$8352b9c0$93429a45@net.domainnotset.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Mark we have never met but I spent 29 months at Furstenfeldbrook AFB 9/12/46 to 12/12/48 and still stay in touch with 3 families in Bavaria that I am very bounded from the Grandparents,and parents. It is always delightful to know of others that have experienced similiar things. Where are u going there and what duration will you trip be? Hope to hear from u but if I don't have a great trip and Auf wiedersehen . John Adkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:58 AM Subject: KR> Re:Germany trip > Serge wrote: > > > Are you going to France by any chance? If yes, let me know!! > > Nope, sorry, just Germany, Switzerland, and a little bit of Austria. > I lived in Germany for three years, two while in the Air Force and > another year after I got out. I really enjoyed the people and their > way of life... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:24:15 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22004932916241531@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII My friend Giff (Gifford Gillingham) a prolific airplane builder made my stick and pedals for me. The pedals are about as light and simple as they can be made and eliminated the geometry problem with the master cylinders. Giff has used this set up on other airplanes and it worked for him so I think its good enough for me. The pedal hinges are tube in a tube with some ears welded on to mount them. See them at http://jackandsandycooper.com/stickandpedals.html Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Mark Youkey > To: KRnet > Date: 9/29/2004 12:37:50 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals > > Thanks everybody for the input. I'm still not sure how I'm going to > solve the problem, but I've made some progress. > > I made a device to try out and weigh, but now my problem is...I don't > know how much a standard set of rudder pedals weighs, so I don't know > if I'm doing good or bad. Does anyone know how much their pedals and > hinges setup > weighs? > > Chris, I'm still interested in seeing your Katana's design, if you > don't mind. > > If my design works and is close to or better than plans weight, I'll > post how I did it. If not, who knows...I may post how I didn't do it. > > Thanks again. > > Mark Youkey > myoukey@cox.net > Oklahoma City > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:33:23 -0500 From: "Wesley Scott" Subject: Re: KR> G limit To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <007301c4a642$0bfa6c70$30ae0a04@pbrain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The way Bill Marcy did the wing analysis it would increase the wing length 1 inch per side (total 2 inches). The failure modes he examined were failure of the wing attach fitting and failure from bending where the wing meets the fuselage. Since you haven't changed the outer wings the load on the wing attach fittings would be unchanged (unless you used a gross weight different from the 1050 pounds used in the analysis [that assumes a 100HP O-200]). Because you have added to the length of the wing you have added to the bending moment at the fuselage (the lift loads are farther from the fuselage). I've just decided I don't trust the Marcy analysis. When he did it, he assumed the section of the wing inside the fuselage was producing lift just like the stub wings do. That means that the lift produced by the outer wings is undercalculated and therefore the bending moment numbers he calculated are too low. -- wesley scott kr2@spottedowl.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:19 AM Subject: Re: KR> G limit > If I remember correctly, figures from Jeannette Rand, stated that each > 6" added to the wing length, decreases the "G" load factor by 1/2 G. > (please this my re-call and not necessarily accurate). > This being true, and I increased my fuselage width by 4", and my center spar > by 6", does that add > 2" to the actual wingth length or 6" ? > > Ray Goree ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:23:44 -0500 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Jack wrote- >See them at http://jackandsandycooper.com/stickandpedals.html You'll more than likely get some flak about the bent tube linking the stick to the control surfaces. I think it came up here before and some said it was dangerous (failure mode in buckling). I disagree based on the forces being transmitted, but I've never built and flown my own KR, either. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:44:05 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22004932917445812@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have never built and flown my KR either but the tube seems to be plenty strong enough to handle the forces. I have seen a bent tube on another aircraft which was much longer than mine. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Oscar Zuniga > To: > Date: 9/29/2004 1:23:44 PM > Subject: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals > > Jack wrote- > > >See them at http://jackandsandycooper.com/stickandpedals.html > > You'll more than likely get some flak about the bent tube linking the stick > to the control surfaces. I think it came up here before and some said > it > was dangerous (failure mode in buckling). I disagree based on the forces > being transmitted, but I've never built and flown my own KR, either. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:46:05 GMT From: "jscott.pilot@juno.com" Subject: RE: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: kr2cooper@earthlink.net, krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040929.124611.17511.1065623@webmail15.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain That "bent tube" is much more substantial than the straight one in my KR. So far it has 470 hours of flight time with no indication of failure. Jeff -- "Jack Cooper" wrote: I have never built and flown my KR either but the tube seems to be plenty strong enough to handle the forces. I have seen a bent tube on another aircraft which was much longer than mine. Jack Cooper > > Jack wrote- > > >See them at http://jackandsandycooper.com/stickandpedals.html > > You'll more than likely get some flak about the bent tube linking the stick > to the control surfaces. I think it came up here before and some said > it > was dangerous (failure mode in buckling). I disagree based on the forces > being transmitted, but I've never built and flown my own KR, either. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:25:15 EDT From: Jumpnkd@aol.com Subject: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 140 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <67.34c99e67.2e8c742b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 9/28/2004 11:59:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, krnet-request@mylist.net writes: Gang, the camping area Larry had available was fantastic. Tent door opening to a great lake view, nice flat camping with a covered picnic table area along with 4-5 permanent grills................all except for those !#$%@$%^&% trains!! I never heard the trains, Must have been that fine Canadian whiskey that kept them away! But it was Chilly on sun night, only time I woke was when the cold air hit my face! And to Larry who In my book is a great guy I asked him where i could find a shower and he gave me a key to his room and said here take one! now that is a good guy in my book. Take note for next year there is some big fish in that pond! I didn't hear the train but I heard some BIG SPLASHES and some stories from locals! so bring your fishing pole! Sounds like a Womans fishing tournament would be in hand! "People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it." George Bernard Shaw, (1856-1950) Irish playwight and winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature 1925 Yours Bill White Alexandria VA ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:20:57 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: KR> (no subject) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002801c4a661$dfba8d00$beb272d8@3z4xt01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Love'n all those photos John B. Always knew that the KR is limited only ones imagination. Need to know why we never see fuel injected VW's. And to Steve Bennett,..love that top mounted carb. I have a stretched KR2 narrowed down to single seat with a crappy homemade canopy and would like to know where Steve got his canopy. His plane liiks like a narrow KR2 also ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:43:40 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: RE: KR>Big Splashers To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902BC7@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain -----Original Message----- From: Jumpnkd@aol.com [mailto:Jumpnkd@aol.com] Take note for next year there is some big fish in that pond! I didn't hear the train but I heard some BIG SPLASHES and some stories from locals! so bring your fishing pole! Oh NO !!!!!!! That was Dana skinny dipping. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:12:39 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: KR>Big Splashers To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Mark Jones but I heard some BIG SPLASHES and some stories from locals! so >bring >your fishing pole! > >Oh NO !!!!!!! That was Dana skinny dipping. > I think you may have heard Dana snoring, little too cold for skinny dipping for this southern boy. With that said, I did hear a couple of lunkers splash around through the night..........enough to make me bring the pole next year:-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 141 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================