From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 14 Date: 7/5/2004 8:59:58 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. engine monitoring system (Lee Van Dyke) 2. Stall Warning - humbled (Stephen Jacobs) 3. Re: Fiberglass Solvent (Ron Eason) 4. RE: Harley motors (Ronald Metcalf) 5. outer wing foam (Tim Brown) 6. RE: Harley motors (Brian Kraut) 7. Re: Harley motors (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) 8. Re: Stall warnings (Orma) 9. Stall Warning - humbled (larry flesner) 10. Harley motors (larry flesner) 11. Spars for sale (Brian Kraut) 12. forming plexiglass (Lee Van Dyke) 13. Re: forming plexiglass (Dan Heath) 14. Re: forming plexiglass (Lee Van Dyke) 15. Harleys and auto engines (Colin & Bev Rainey) 16. Angle of attack (Colin & Bev Rainey) 17. forming plexiglass (Larry A Capps) 18. Re: Angle of attack (Kenneth B. Jones) 19. Re: forming plexiglass (Ron Eason) 20. Re: Fuse is painted (Dean Cooper) 21. Re: forming plexiglass (larry severson) 22. Fw: KR> Fuse is painted (Dean Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:10:09 -0500 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> engine monitoring system To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001301c462bb$4ee4a430$8801a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, Has anybody seen or heard of an engine monitoring system for sale?? I am to the point where I am reconfiguring the panel, and getting all of the wiring hooked up, and would lilke to add that system to my panel. Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:18:18 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> Stall Warning - humbled To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c462bc$772147e0$0d64a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry F and Larry S I stand corrected and wiser for the experience, AofA has a direct correlation to the stall - thank you both. Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:27:58 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass Solvent To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <029001c462bd$cbf81270$6501a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MEK is ok but Lacquer thinner is ok also, it has MEK in it. It removes oils and cleans the surface. KRron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth B. Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fiberglass Solvent > I use E-Z Poxy on my White Lightning. I'm told to sand the surface > and to wipe with MEK prior to applying epoxy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:32 PM > Subject: KR> Fiberglass Solvent > > > > Anyone know of a solvent that I could wash/wipe a cured fiberglass surface > > with to remove the sheen so epoxy would adhere? I'm making a > > fiberglass > gear > > leg for my Challenger ultralight and need to epoxy 3 short tubes together, > one > > inside the other. I sanded the last set I made which worked well > > but was > a > > real chore for the inside surfaces of the mating tubes. Thanks.... > > > > Jim Hayward > > Rapid City, SD > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:42:30 -0500 From: "Ronald Metcalf" Subject: RE: KR> Harley motors To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed larry flesner Much was said today about the Hog motor and I understand from you comments that you have some insight into this venture and the engine now being used in the Zenith airplane is Ok. Also that you are in fact flying the test bed. I can understand that you cannot say a whole lot, but what are the vibration levels like. I ask because I like the engine, price, weight, sound, pedigree and would very much like to use it - Hog Air does offer them for sale with the drive et al. Thank you in anticipation Ron _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeŽ Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Brown Subject: KR> outer wing foam To: KR Net Message-ID: <20040705192037.44175.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well I'm back working on my KR2S after taking a year and a half hiatus for personal/family reasons. I picked up where I left off working on the outer wings. My question is directed to the leading edge and trailing edge. The plans call for 1" foam and on the leading edge, foam spars. I used the foam spars on the wing but I was wondering if there is any reason why one could not just make the LE and TE solid foam. Can't make that much weight difference. Any thoughts? Tim, Blue Jay, Calif __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:27:33 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Harley motors To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brett from Hog Air will be at the gathering this year. I don't know a whole lot about the engine or how suitable it is for the KR, but I do know that Bret is a good guy and knows the engine. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ronald Metcalf Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 2:43 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR> Harley motors larry flesner Much was said today about the Hog motor and I understand from you comments that you have some insight into this venture and the engine now being used in the Zenith airplane is Ok. Also that you are in fact flying the test bed. I can understand that you cannot say a whole lot, but what are the vibration levels like. I ask because I like the engine, price, weight, sound, pedigree and would very much like to use it - Hog Air does offer them for sale with the drive et al. Thank you in anticipation Ron _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:32:32 EDT From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Harley motors To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Never ride a Harley further that you are willing to push it back! Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:20:58 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Stall warnings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006901c462de$59e68d80$512bd445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Net Since I have not seen this touched upon yet, I will add two comments re stalls and the KR. First comment is that as with any aircraft, the pilot not waste too much time before he starts finding out and practicing stalls in his craft. Having a stall warning is good, but having the confidence to know exactly when and how your KR will stall is in my opinion better. Since the KR is pitch sensitive, the addition of weight can have a dramatic effect on the onset of the stall. Practicing stalls should be done with all weight configurations. As a side note, my KR always stalled very soft and with plenty of notice. When light with lots of power, it would not stall, rather just hang on the prop and chug upward a few feet per minute. Stall warnings. I have installed Stohl kits on Cessna's which necessitated the relocation of the stall warning. Getting the exact location was always trial and error. If I were to install a system on my KR it would be of the tab type as opposed to the reed type. I would guess the starting point for installation by looking at a low wing craft with a similar type of wing. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Soon to celebrate 20 years ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:41:46 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Stall Warning - humbled To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040705174146.008e17d0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Larry F and Larry S >I stand corrected and wiser for the experience, AofA has a direct >correlation to the stall - thank you both. Steve J ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You're welcome. That's what we're here for. We just keep throwing info out there until someone determines it is correct. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:42:00 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Harley motors To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040705174200.008e2d10@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >larry flesner >Much was said today about the Hog motor and I understand from you >comments >that you have some insight into this venture and the engine now being used >in the Zenith airplane is Ok. Also that you are in fact flying the test >bed. >Ron ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I did the first flight on the 601 with the 80 hp Harley engine just one or two days before I made the first flight on my KR last December. That's the only time I've actually flown the aircraft although I have several hours in the air flying formation with it in my KR. As to the vibration levels in this setup I'd say they would be similar to the engine running in a bike. It has certian rpm bands where it tends to vibrate a bit but an extra 100 or 200 rpm and it seems to smooth out again. I don't know if this is typical Harley or not as I've only ridden one and that was about twenty years ago. I expect the numbness to leave my hands any day now. :-) He seems to have a well designed PSRU with quality components. Matching a propeller to the engine will probably be the biggest challange right now. I expect you will be able to see one hanging on a KR project at the Gathering in September. Brett is a friend of mine and I think he is doing a good job with a very experimental engine. Like any new to market endevor I'd say give him some time to prove it out before getting too excited and I'd expect he would tell you the same. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:49:29 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> Spars for sale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I still have a set of forward outboard spars for sale. The wood work is excellent. Shear webs are birch plywood. The material to build these is about $200.00. Now that I have finished a set I can also say that buying these will save about 20 hours of labor and a good five or six eight hour sessions of waiting for the epoxy to dry. For the average person working on the KR on the weekends some and after work this can easily be whole week of work. I will sell the set for the first $180 plus shipping or best offer I get in the next week. I believe they can ship UPS. They are standard KR2 or 2S size and you could epoxy on caps if you wanted the 5048 tapering to 5046 airfoil. I would like to get what they are worth, but I don't want to keep them so any offer is welcome. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:24:49 -0500 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> forming plexiglass To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c462e7$675fde40$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What is a good temp to form plexiglass for my lens covers for my landing lights????Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:45:06 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> forming plexiglass To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40EA0422.000003.03180@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 220 degrees. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 07/05/04 21:26:12 To: KRnet Subject: KR> forming plexiglass What is a good temp to form plexiglass for my lens covers for my landing lights????Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:47:59 -0500 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: Re: KR> forming plexiglass To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c462ea$80ef4410$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" thank you the rapid response ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: KR> forming plexiglass > 220 degrees. > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired." > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. > Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRnet > Date: 07/05/04 21:26:12 > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> forming plexiglass > > What is a good temp to form plexiglass for my lens covers for my > landing lights????Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ > Lee@vandyke5.com > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:34:55 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Harleys and auto engines To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007e01c46301$d2ed9840$34442141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Doug I was not saying the motorcycle engines were a bad choice, just that a noted author stated them too heavy for their output. The transmissions on them are to allow for mechanical advantage so that they can accelerate they way they do and perform, like any transmission. In all engine families there will be exceptions to the rule. And as a side note when your Harley dies on the side of the road, it will be me on my Yamaha cruiser riding by still going. On you statement about auto manufacturers going down in power and output, that is false. They have not only gone up in the last 10 years, but have done so while still burning cleaner. I aplaud Hog Motors and hope they are successful because I can't stand the apparent monopoly that the aircraft engine people have. I am running a VW engine, but have another engine in the skunk works to replace it that will stay in secret until the firewall forward package is proven and complete. Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:56:09 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Angle of attack To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009101c46304$ca9e0870$34442141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters Lets make this really simple: Angle of attack is the angle created between the chord line and the relative wind. Period. The chord line is an imaginary line that we create for discussion of the characteristics of a wing and is from the center of the leading edge to the center of the trailing edge if viewed from the end of the wing tip looking towards the fuselage. The relative wind is NOT the direction of the wind blowing at the aircraft at a given time, nor is it the direction of travel of the aircraft. It is the direction of airflow just before it begins passing over the wing at the leading edge. It was correctly stated earlier that the aircraft stalls at the same angle of attack for a given wing no matter what the flight attitude, and that is true. This angle is known as the critical angle of attack, and this does not change for a particular wing. If we are in cruise climb, the angle of attack is small because we are using surplus power to provide more thrust thean we need for level flight and we have pointed the nose up in order for the wing to make more lift than is necessary for level flight, which is increasing the angle of attack. What must be understood is that when we test our KRs for the stall speed from straight & level flight, whether power on or off, we are not pulling any Gs to speak of, barely over 1G if that. However, lets say we are performing a steep turn and allow the angle of BANK to roll on over to 60 degrees. All aircraft regardless of make will experience 2Gs. This increases the wing loading AND RAISES the stall speed of the aircraft because the effective weight that the wing must now keep in flight is twice what it was in level flight. That changes the critical angle of attack for that wing loading, referred to as an accelerated maneuvering stall. Finding the correct location for a stall warning device is not just picking an arbitrary point on the wing, and as Dan stated, bad information is worse than no information. The Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge is not the most exciting reading, but should be a must for all pilots who are thinking of flying their own aircraft, or flying period. It is also good to read the Airplane Flying Handbook. Both are in expensive, under $16 and full of a wealth of flying knowledge that will prevent you from falling prey to the "well that is what this pilot told me" syndrome. Many many accidents and incidents with aircraft would have been prevented if pilots had just read first about what they were doing instead of trying to learn OJT! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:00:56 -0500 From: "Larry A Capps" Subject: KR> forming plexiglass To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c46305$75bbba40$0500a8c0@schpankme> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The temps shown are accurate based on Oven and Candy Thermometer readings. Your ideal forming temps will be 320 to 340 indicated. 250?F - Plexiglas bends, but cools and bounces back to easily * 320?F - Plexiglas becomes workable and will not spring back - form your part 350?F - Plexiglas will start to "gas" with small bubbles forming inside Larry A Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- What is a good temp to form plexiglass for my lens covers for my landing lights ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 23:16:05 -0400 From: "Kenneth B. Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Angle of attack To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <04be01c46307$939457f0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> So, does the critical angle of attack change or not? Which is it, "This angle is known as the critical angle of attack, and this does not change for a particular wing." or "That changes the critical angle of attack for that wing loading, referred to as an accelerated maneuvering stall. "? Ken Jones \ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:56 PM Subject: KR> Angle of attack > Netters > > Lets make this really simple: ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:16:26 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> forming plexiglass To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c46307$a0194cb0$6501a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The following is true I've seen all phases. If you have an oven w/o a good temp indicator, test small pieces before starting the final part. Be careful of the 350 mark. KRron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A Capps" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: KR> forming plexiglass > The temps shown are accurate based on Oven and Candy Thermometer > readings. > > Your ideal forming temps will be 320 to 340 indicated. > > 250?F - Plexiglas bends, but cools and bounces back to easily > > * 320?F - Plexiglas becomes workable and will not spring back - form > your part > > 350?F - Plexiglas will start to "gas" with small bubbles forming > inside > > Larry A Capps > Naperville, IL > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > What is a good temp to form plexiglass > for my lens covers for my landing lights > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 23:55:56 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> Fuse is painted To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008601c4630d$240a5c80$0502a8c0@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan, Congrats on getting it painted!! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: KR> Fuse is painted > Well, the fuselage is painted and now we can get down to some really serious > wiring and plumbing. We will be doing a W&B soon after that. I can't > wait. Really pumped now. > > Going to play golf so I won't be tempted to keep peeking into the > booth. > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired." > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 20:57:43 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> forming plexiglass To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040705205228.0243eab8@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:24 PM 7/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: >What is a good temp to form plexiglass for my lens covers for my >landing >lights???? I got a product from Home Depot called Crystalite (??) that ran about $1.75 for 11x14". It started drooping at 250 degrees in about 5 minutes. I took it out and finished shaping it with leather palmed garden gloves. 3 attempts all worked perfectly. I needed multiple attempts as I found that I had to back it with wood and drill slowly to avoid cracking the material. Also, trying to put in a screw when the material is not flush causes breaks. However, with these factors taken care of, I get a great landing light cover cheap! Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 23:57:55 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: Fw: KR> Fuse is painted To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008f01c4630d$6b8528b0$0502a8c0@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry folks, that was meant just for Dan and I was too quick on the reply. :-) Do not archive Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Cooper" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fuse is painted > Dan, > > Congrats on getting it painted!! > > > Dean Cooper > Jacksonville, FL > Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net > See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 8:42 AM > Subject: KR> Fuse is painted > > > > Well, the fuselage is painted and now we can get down to some really > serious > > wiring and plumbing. We will be doing a W&B soon after that. I can't wait. > > Really pumped now. > > > > Going to play golf so I won't be tempted to keep peeking into the > > booth. > > > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time > > for building has long since expired." > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 14 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================