From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 195 Date: 11/5/2004 8:31:34 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: KR Membership (patrusso) 2. The Garmin MAPGps 296 discount (Robert L. Stone) 3. Garmin Saga (David Mikesell) 4. RE: KR Membership (Mark Jones) 5. Jim Irwin/costumer service (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) 6. Re: cabin heat (joe) 7. Aircraft Spruce Garmin 296 (Aircraft Spruce) 8. Re: Aircraft Spruce & Specialty (JEHayward@aol.com) 9. RE: The Garmin MAPGps 296 discount (Doug Rupert) 10. RE: Jim Irwin Sign On To Kr Net (Doug Rupert) 11. Re: KR Oil Pressure (patrusso) 12. Air Brake information (Dick Starks) 13. Issues (Colin & Bev Rainey) 14. Re: cabin heat - Is this reflected on a plan sheet somewhere (Dan Heath) 15. Me Too - FYI (Dan Heath) 16. Re: flying (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 17. Re: flying (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 18. Re: Issues (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 19. Me Too - FYI (Oscar Zuniga) 20. Re: KR1> cowling (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 21. Do KR-2S parts fit a KR-2? (rickcoy@comcast.net) 22. Re: Do KR-2S parts fit a KR-2? (Mark Langford) 23. teeny weeny update, dog tale (Mark Langford) 24. Re: teeny weeny update, dog tale (Mark Jones) 25. Re: Jim Irwin Sign On To Kr Net (BABYWOLF@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:59:47 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> KR Membership To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004d01c4c350$7a429380$c0a972d8@3z4xt01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the archive links. I am astounded at how much of our irrevelant chit chat has been archively recorded making it far too time consuming to get at the needed design/build info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: RE: KR> KR Membership > Here are two archive links you can search with. > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > Simply type in the key search words and hit enter. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > > > -----Original Message----- > From: patrusso [mailto:patrusso@sover.net] > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:02 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> KR Membership > > What Archives?? Where?? How?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR Net" > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:51 AM > Subject: KR> KR Membership > > > > The KR Net is a free non-profit organization and is open for ANYONE > > to > join. We do not discriminate against anyone unless they are on the Net > and abuse the privileges of the Nets use. Some of you guys are saying > that AS&S > has no interest our KR Group other than for their profit. Some say > why is Jim on the list because he never donates money or anything > else. WELL HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE DONATED MONEY TO OUR CAUSES (Example: > The Prop Bank Fund which I can count all the donors on my two hands. > The problem is we as humans love to find fault in everything another > human does. A good example is this past Presidential election. So lets > get off this bandwagon. You know, if more of you would spend less time > on this net and learn to search the archives, you would be flying a > lot sooner. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:15:09 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: KR> The Garmin MAPGps 296 discount To: "KR Builders Pilots" Message-ID: <418BA70D.000003.02016@YOUR-AT5QGAAC3Z> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, I have been monitoring the post's on the KRNet concerning my attempt to get a fleet deal on the Garmin MAPGps 296 and in regard to that I have this to say. No one involved in this did anything wrong except Jim Irwin, President of AS&S by making it public. When I first got interested in the Garmin 296 I thought the price was rather high so I called around to the various suppliers and finally found one who I thought would be willing to sell more than one unit at a reduced price. The individual I talked to was not the owner of the company, he was just an employee who was unaware of the fact that there existed a contract between his boss and Garmin to not discount the price of the unit. I was also unaware of this fact. I never did talk to the owner of the company about anything and if I had I am sure he would have advised me that he could not sell to me or anyone else on a fleet deal because of his contract with Garmin. My intention was to get a unit for myself and any member of the KRNet and save us all some money. There was nothing dishonest done by anyone involved. It's a shame that some members of the KRNet jump to conclusions and call people when they don't have all the facts. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:10:13 -0800 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: KR> Garmin Saga To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <000a01c4c351$ef0b9ee0$6501a8c0@davids> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I don't chime in much here but guys, the deal got busted. True it should have been handled off list. I have had my boughts with AS&S, who hasn't if you do alot of business with them. He is just doing what a honest business man should, but never in the public eye because now he has hurt his business. I am no rocket scientist or IQ genius but come on, you don't do laundry in public. Enough said, lets move on. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:22:17 -0600 From: Mark Jones Subject: RE: KR> KR Membership To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902CAC@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain Everyone must remember that every post is archived. It does not matter if you state "do not archive" in the text. There is no one who scans and posts them in the archives. That is why there is so much wasted space in the archives. Try doing a search on "me too" and I would be willing to bet there are many there. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI -----Original Message----- From: patrusso [mailto:patrusso@sover.net] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:00 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KR Membership Thanks for the archive links. I am astounded at how much of our irrevelant chit chat has been archively recorded making it far too time consuming to get at the needed design/build info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: RE: KR> KR Membership > Here are two archive links you can search with. > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > Simply type in the key search words and hit enter. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > > > -----Original Message----- > From: patrusso [mailto:patrusso@sover.net] > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:02 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> KR Membership > > What Archives?? Where?? How?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR Net" > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:51 AM > Subject: KR> KR Membership > > > > The KR Net is a free non-profit organization and is open for ANYONE > > to > join. We do not discriminate against anyone unless they are on the Net > and abuse the privileges of the Nets use. Some of you guys are saying > that AS&S > has no interest our KR Group other than for their profit. Some say > why is Jim on the list because he never donates money or anything > else. WELL HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE DONATED MONEY TO OUR CAUSES (Example: > The Prop Bank Fund which I can count all the donors on my two hands. > The problem is we as humans love to find fault in everything another > human does. A good example is this past Presidential election. So lets > get off this bandwagon. You know, if more of you would spend less time > on this net and learn to search the archives, you would be flying a > lot sooner. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:37:39 EST From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: KR>Jim Irwin/costumer service To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >The problem is, his >employees must not share in his vision because they don't treat his >customers like he does. I defense to Jim Irwin, every time I had a problem with AS&S he has taken care of it. But he is like many CEO's, slightly out of touch with the grunts of his company. They do not have the same values in costumer service that he does. Chris Theroux Gilbert, Az ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:35:22 -0800 From: "joe" Subject: Re: KR> cabin heat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c4c355$7286f460$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan, This cabin/carb heat setup is excellent. Is this reflected on a plan sheet somewhere. I didn't expect to see such a professional system. Thank you, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:35 AM Subject: Re: KR> cabin heat > Joe, > > If you look at http://kr-builder.org/CockpitWork/index.html you will > see what I have done to provide cabin heat and fresh air. We have a VW > engine, so we are going to do it sort of VWish, coming off the > exhaust. > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:59:39 -0800 (PST) From: Aircraft Spruce Subject: KR> Aircraft Spruce Garmin 296 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041105165939.88690.qmail@web11706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii TO: KR NET Yesterday I posted my response to a reader’s posting about obtaining pricing on the Garmin 296 from a local dealer, and I have read some responses to my posting. I want to make it clear that the $1695 price is the minimum-selling price dictated by Garmin. Aircraft Spruce and other Garmin dealers have no say in what we can sell this unit for; it must be sold for $1695 (regardless of qty) or we lose our Garmin dealership. In fact, Aircraft Spruce fought long and hard with Garmin on when this “fixed price” policy was put into effect by Garmin, as we have always discounted all the products that we sell, including all Garmin products. However, the legality of the minimum selling price has apparently been upheld in some court cases, we and all other dealers have no choice but to comply with the policy if we wish to offer Garmin products to our customers. Some other manufacturers have begun to adopt this policy as well, but fortunately on Garmin products is currently affects only the 296. I personally object to this policy, as I believe competition among dealers which will set a reasonably discounted selling price. We will continue to honor the distributor agreements we signed with Garmin and will play by the rules outlined in that agreement. If their policy changes, I can assure you that Aircraft Spruce will offer a discounted price the same day. Thanks to everyone who posted their comments on this subject. Jim Irwin President, Aircraft Spruce __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:56:03 EST From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Aircraft Spruce & Specialty To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 11/4/04 10:26:29 PM Mountain Standard Time, flykr2s@wi.rr.com writes: << In the case of Mr. Irwin, he is simply protecting his and other reputable distributors interest in the principal manufacturer's product he represents. >> I think if he had explained it differently and not come across as he did (Big Brother is watching you) it would have been met with a much different reaction. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:14:43 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> The Garmin MAPGps 296 discount To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <004e01c4c363$60decf90$5d04e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That clears that one up real fast. Thanks Bob and this should serve as a lesson to all of us. Never talk to the horse's arse when you should be talking to the other end. Doug Rupert ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:14:43 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR>Jim Irwin Sign On To Kr Net To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <005001c4c363$67945710$5d04e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for the reality check Dan. Mark and others all have made valid statements in regards to selling practices. No person is infallible and we all make mistakes. Jim Irwin is a smart man as proven by the size of Aircraft Spruce. One doesn't build a company that size by making stupid decisions but one has to admit that the statement that started the current flame war was precariously close to the line of stupidity. Everything Jim said was in fact true BUT to say what he did on this an open forum did nothing but hurt his future business. Previously I stated that little faux pas regarding the airspeed indicator and upon reflection and doing the math it was easy to see that the add was definitely a misprint and shame on me for not catching it before the purchase. That is the very reason I haven't filed a complaint with Jim for he cannot be held accountable for a typing error by one of his employees or my stupidity for not seeing the obvious error. That being said I'll continue to deal with AS&S but will keep a close eye on what I order in future. Hell I'd even go so far as to trade Jim my classic Mercury panel truck for one of them Blue Mountain glass cockpit things even though the truck is worth well over the cost of the avionics. The reason? Simple, Jim seems to have a sincere desire to do the right thing by his customers and also has a deep appreciation for things of beauty. Doug Rupert Simcoe Ontario. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:32:12 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: KR> Re: KR Oil Pressure To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000b01c4c365$c4cd0420$d1a972d8@3z4xt01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Orma This is Pat Russo, the one with the oil pressure problems. I have discovered that the oil pressure drops to zero when the oil temp goes to 100C or 212F. I have a type 4 engine and left the cooler as was, ie flat on the engine and now have decided to go with heavy duty oil pump and remote oil cooler. This may not be the problem but it will be an improvement on the stock system,..right? Tried the direct gauge and oil pressure remained steady for the half hour I ran it. The test gage did not allow me to put the cowling on, so the temp never did rise during this test. With cowl on and 15 minutes of taxi, the temp moves promptly up there and the pressur dropped to zero. My gages are in centigrade and Bars, don't ask why and too often I thought, "wow I am only running at a hundred degrees,"...forgetting to do my math. Any further thoughts and comments? ----- Original Message ----- F > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:18:40 -0600 From: "Dick Starks" Subject: KR> Air Brake information To: Message-ID: <001d01c4c36c$4204ed80$6501a8c0@DELLPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings all Ya'll really fast flyers from a really SLOW flyer. This is Dick Starks of the Kansas City Dawn Patrol here trying to help out Tom Glaeser ( Also of the Dawn Patrol ) whose working on TWO KR-2s right now. He's been flying/working on/rebuilding/modifying his first one for about 24 years. He just bought the second one at Mt. Vernon this year. He was at Mt. Vernon this year and really needs to talk or email someone who can give him some information on the "air brake" on the KR. Where it's located, are holes in it better and a bunch of other questions I forgot to write down. Tom hates computers, answers his emails at least ONCE a month, and types with his fists so you can see why I got this job. So, if any of you can email me with your phone numbers or email addresses, I'll pass them on to Tom and hopefully you two can get together and solve his problem(s) for him. Sincerely Dick Starks "Le Chien De La Ferraille De La Cour" (The Junk Yard Dog) The Dawn Patrol: web site - http://www.kcdawnpatrol.org Planes: Nieuport 11, N-124DS,"Le Faucon Gris" Kolb Twinstar, MK-II, N247RS,"The Tweetie Bird" Rumpler Taube replica: N1914S, "The Dove of War" ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:31:16 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Issues To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d601c4c376$66e0c3e0$2d432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters Ailerons: As Larry stated using ailerons during a stall is not bad or prohibited. The use of only rudder during initial flight training comes from CFIs teaching new students about staying COODRINATED, not that ailerons cause a spin. But typical of teaching generation after generation, the method evolves into a hard and fast rule instead of the gained understanding. Full aileron deflection will not cause a spin PROVIDED the aircraft remains coordinated. But even partial deflection will aid in the development of the spin if the pilot continues to aggravate the stall (hence the definition of a spin - aggravated stall ) by not remaining coordinated and over controlling the plane. I routinely teach stall recoveries from turning stalls, and the aircraft will ALWAYS stall flat and be easily recovered IF one maintains coordination. Maintaining coordination means that regardless of the flight attitude, the aircraft will be in a state of near equilibrium, and therefore both wings will stall equally. We teach judicious use of ailerons to prevent low hour pilots from aggravating a stall into a spin, not because they can't be used. I have a standard KR2 and will be beginning that part of my flight testing soon, and will give a brief report here, and expanded reports on the web page. Others are free to use this information to help evaluate their planes. Bear in mind that our plane has 1 inch spacers on the engine, and the seat is moved forward 5 inches ( we are SHORT ), so that will effect our CG and therefore final speeds. Tailwheel: I have a wheelchair wheel as my tailwheel which is full swivel non steerable air filled. After 3 hours of taxi testing, and first flight I can report no bad habits or problems with control. I probably have to tap my brakes more often the others for directional control but that is all. It tracks as well and is as controllable as the Citabria I got my tailwheel endorsement in. I personnally love knwoing that I can land in a very stiff cross wind with no fear of the tailwheel ever being in a bind. You guys with tri-gear have the same free castoring, just up front. I am just pulling mine instead of pushing it. AS&S: First off I have had nothing but great service from AS&S, and have always gotten what I ordered promptly. I always use the internet site even if I use the catalog to find the item first because sometimes a search on their site doesn't show it. You people should be flattered that Jim Irwin felt that you were mature enough to understand his explaination about an agreement he has with a supplier, and explain why he would not be able to match someone else's price. I took his e-mail as one coming from a friend who was making an explaination to a friend, not airing dirty laundry. Many of you here need to re-read Dana Overall's post. Price fixing is when several industry suppliers or manufacturers get together and agree to set prices at a certain amount to control the market concerning the same or similar products instead of setting their own price. It is also illegal for a business to set prices below cost to drive other businesses out of the market place, except on approved sales like clearances etc... I am flattered that Jim Irwin took the time to post ANYTHING here for us builders. Pick up a trade a plane and look at how many aircraft suppliers there are out there. I don't see them contributing anything here, or so much as saying hello. I for one thank him for taking the time to post here and appreciate his openness concerning this issue. I welcome any further comments or communications from him. Wicks has great customer service, but AS&S has never sent me a box beam of extruded aluminum when I ordered a fiberglass arrow shaft either! New netters: Those that are brand new, read the KRnetiquette page very closely and you will find all your answers about posts archives, how to unsubscribe, what to post, how to check archives, etc... I going on 3 years here I have noticed about every 6 months Mark Jones or Langford has to post again about the use of proper netiquette for the new guys or old guys who forget. Also, it will save you alot of time waiting on a response if before you post a question, you take the time to read up on some of the builders web sites and learn what they have done to solve probably the same issues. You can view them at you liesure when you need the information instead of posting a question here and waiting for a response. Also you can check the archives, and probably find where someone else has already asked that question and what the answers were. Again doing this is not to put you off but save you time, because you can search and read on your time, then get back to building instead of waiting to continue on answers. Sorry about how long, Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:03:12 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> cabin heat - Is this reflected on a plan sheet somewhere To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <418BF8A0.000001.03180@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe, No, as far as I know, there is no plan anywhere for this. The best plans you will get for cockpit, instrument panel, and Firewall forward, will come off this KR-Net. Thanks for the kind words. There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:08:04 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Me Too - FYI To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <418BF9C4.000005.03180@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KRNet Search results for "me too" Search the KRNet archive again: KRNet Date Index | KRNet Thread Index No matches were found for "me too"! (This means that either these word(s) couldn't be found in the archive, or some word(s) were too common for this archive, or some were too short (3 characters or less) to match!) There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:32:14 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> flying To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:35:53 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> flying To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <67.3727da2c.2ebd5a49@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Any chance someone has a kr2 around i could get some stick time? all help would be greatly appr. Thanks Bill ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:45:43 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Issues To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" kepp up the good workC&B let me know how your spin tests go Ive been thinking about shorting up Ailrons on Kr1 which is already super sensitive. ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:45:02 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> Me Too - FYI To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Dan writes- >KRNet Search results for "me too" >No matches were found for "me too"! I searched on the phrase "do not archive" and found 500 instances of it. Now here's the sad part. At least one of those posts had useful information in it, BUT the poster had not snipped the post he was replying to, and the unsnipped post DID have the phrase "do not archive" in it. If we had a "bot" on this listserve that dumped posts containing the phrase "do not archive" in them, like the Matronics lists do, we'd have a mixed blessing in that the bot would dump the garbage all right, but would also dump good archivable posts that didn't have earlier posts snipped. Manners, manners. List netiquette. Oh, and just so this post isn't totally useless, I'll add that I was able to finish rough-shaping the cowling plug on my little "KR Construction Trainer" and put up a photo: http://www.flysquirrel.net and it's just down from the picture of the flying prototype (second picture). It's got a little blister on top to clear the oil filler, and that will be part of a small hinged access cover. Cowling construction has been one of the most enjoyable parts of my project so far! I can also report that my Pietenpol, NX41CC, is airworthy again and is scheduled to do a flyover at the Veteran's Day ceremony in deep south Texas next week (but don't tell Homeland Security, please). The veterans request a flyover every year, 11/11, at 11 AM, as they perform the flag ceremony and 21-gun salute. This year they get the putt-putt of an A-65 in this airplane: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 17:51:58 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: KR> Re: KR1> cowling To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Anybpdy know of a KR1 cowling for sale leave message will ctc off net ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:19:23 +0000 From: rickcoy@comcast.net Subject: KR> Do KR-2S parts fit a KR-2? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <110620040019.3567.418C188B0005CCFF00000DEF220588644297010C050C079D@comcast.net> Does anyone know if the following RR kits for the KR-2S will fit the KR-2: Cable and Pulleys Turnbuckle Kit Aileron Pushrods & Rod Ends Pre-molded Cowl (Revmaster style) Pre-molded Canopy Canopy Frame (My KR-2 boat has been built to the stock dimensions.) Rick Coykendall Pacifica, CA ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:56:03 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Do KR-2S parts fit a KR-2? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d801c4c3ac$27ca7f30$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Rick Coykendall wrote: > Does anyone know if the following RR kits for the KR-2S will fit the > KR-2: > > Cable and Pulleys > Turnbuckle Kit > Aileron Pushrods & Rod Ends > Pre-molded Cowl (Revmaster style) > Pre-molded Canopy > Canopy Frame They all should fit fine, with the exception of the Revmaster cowling, which would be 2" too wide for a KR-2, but that could be fixed with a little fiberglass work, I'll bet. The main differences in the two planes involve length and wing planform, as well as firewall reinforcement for larger engines, with some minor stuff like wing attach fittings affected. The KR2S canopy is a quantum leap forward over the KR2 canopy. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:45:01 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> teeny weeny update, dog tale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00f201c4c3b2$ff378480$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KRnetHeads, I've been rigging my ailerons, and cutting an access panel for my aileron bellcrank, which ain't in the normal place, of course. See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/04110539m.jpg for a glimpse of the "almost ready to fly" wing, along with outboardish ailerons and split flaps. Tomorrow I hope to attach both wings and do some weight and balance stuff, but I said that last Friday too. Anybody want a Black Lab? Mine shredded another FedEx package today, the replacement motherboard for the one she shredded about 6 weeks ago. Never found the actual motherboard, but I'm pretty sure it's buried in one of the many holes now adorning the front yard. Unfortunately, she made a snack of the new 512M RAM module and the CPU cooler as well (in two other separate shipments several weeks ago), so my computer upgrade is just not happenin' so far. I'd have hoped that somebody could have trained the dog better, but having given up on that, training the FedEx man has been just as unsucessful. It's gotten to the point that when I drive up, I look for debris in the yard to see if the FedEx man brought me something. That's despite the two large shelves with huge flourescent orange signs that read "PACKAGES...dog will eat anything left on the ground". The UPS and USPS guys have quickly adapted to this system, and even feed her a treat from the Tupperware container, but the FedEx-trathals have yet to rise to that level. I guess the next step is a 6' banner, or maybe me and the dog need to take a ride... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:23:33 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> teeny weeny update, dog tale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001101c4c3b8$64e451a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" I guess > the next step is a 6' banner, or maybe me and the dog need to take a ride... > A black lab is very easy to find a new home for. Simply put up a sign on the maid highway reading " Black Lab..free to a good home...loves to hunt" just do not say what it loves to hunt. Put your phone number on the sign and the dog will have a new home by nightfall. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" I guess > the next step is a 6' banner, or maybe me and the dog need to take a ride... > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:30:35 EST From: BABYWOLF@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Jim Irwin Sign On To Kr Net To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" aircraft spruce donated the T88 glue that I won as a door prize that I at lake barkely gathering and i sure enjoy reading his catalogue garry cowles santa fe nm kr2s ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 195 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================