From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 20 Date: 4/10/2004 9:00:13 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Supercharging vs Turbocharging (Ron Eason) 2. Re: Rudder R.E Bearing (Phillip Matheson) 3. Re: Rudder R.E Bearing (TNCOMPRESSORMAN@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:42:22 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Supercharging vs Turbocharging To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015901c41f66$3c3a1060$6501a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Very good, I would add that my engine simulations say that the high altitude cold air eliminates the need for aftercooling. Normalizing is the goal. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: KR> Supercharging vs Turbocharging > Doug & netters, > The main reason for using a turbo instead of the supercharger is that > a supercharger relies on cannibalizing horsepower from the engine to make horsepower, where the turbo uses "free" horsepower derived from the exhaust pulses of the engine. The supercharger renders horsepower at the cost of some, and they are not controllable for the amount of boost like the turbo is. They are usually configured and then "on" all the time. Turbos can be set so to speak. Typically where people run into problems with overheating and such is 1) the restriction in the free flowing exhaust "backs up" heat into the engine, & 2) the heat introduced into the fuel/air mixture due to the heat generated from compressing the air. Number one complaint has typically been solved by increasing air flow around the exhaust area, and making boost at higher rpms where the momentum of the turbo can be sufficiently built up to actually begin to help scavenge exhaust out of the engine. Number 2 is dealt with by using low compression pistons, higher octane fuel, delayed turbo response, intercoolers, or combinations of those things. > All that having been said, and at the risk of making an oversimplification, if one were to use the ONLY for normalizing the engine, and therefore have a manual wastegate that allowed the pilot to only "activate" the turbo above a density altitude of say 3-4000 feet, than the engine should just behave as if it was still at those altitudes, if one did not allow the manifold pressure to grow beyond the inches that are experienced below that altitude. One would then "trick" the engine into believing it was still down lower. I think most problems are encountered when the temptation to try and tap the additional performance increases offered by the turbo at lower altitudes that gets most pilots into trouble. The additional heat, AT ALTITUDE would be a beneficial thing, both being added to the cowling temp, and the mixture, as it would help the engine from being too cool at altitude (above say 5000feet), and would assist in good air/fuel atomization or mixing as well. Remember, even in our modern cars, there is a certain amount of engine heat that must be added to the air/fuel mixture in order to prevent the gasoline from "falling out" of the mix due to condensation within the intake manifold. This is where some have had tuning problems due to the surging and rich/lean running because the fuel falls out and then puddles, then gets sucked into the next cylinder as too rich and the engine surges, and cuts out, sometimes minor, sometimes major. > One other caution about turbos: make sure you know what kind you > have, blow through, or draw through. A blow through design lacks the seal necessary to draw air/fuel mixture through the carb, where the turbo would be mounted AFTER the carb, but before the engine. The other design draw through has these seals. Most turbos are the blow through design, and draw outside air in, then compress it and send it on to the carb or fuel injection system. Also turbos typically allow for the elimination of any kind of muffler due to their quieting effect. > Flame as necessary......lol > > Colin & Bev Rainey > KR2(td) N96TA > Sanford, FL > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:13:02 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Rudder R.E Bearing To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <004901c41f6a$85ab3180$4e96dccb@ralf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Murray wrote Re your question about rod end bearings for attaching a rudder: I downloaded the Aurora catalogue http://www.aurorabearing.com/2003-04_Internet_Catalog.pdf ------------ Thanks Murray. What if I used one KR hinge to carry the weight at the bottom of the rudder, and two REB's, 1 centre, and 1 at the top of the rudder??? Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:24:19 EDT From: TNCOMPRESSORMAN@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Rudder R.E Bearing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <165.2d793116.2daa1463@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would consider weight of the rudder on the bearings minimal, even during high G maneuvers, bigger concern may be the pressure from the rudder cables on the bottom hinge, just my 2 cents worth. Riley Collins Rutledge, TN KR2ss What if I used one KR hinge to carry the weight at the bottom of the rudder, and two REB's, 1 centre, and 1 at the top of the rudder??? ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 20 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================