From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 201 Date: 11/10/2004 8:59:21 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: New Airfoil on KR-1 (Donald Reid) 2. Kr plans (Peter Waijenberg) 3. RE: Engines (James Leverton) 4. Difference between KR2 and KR2S plans (Serge VIDAL) 5. Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 (rickcoy@comcast.net) 6. Fitting a Revmaster Cowling (rickcoy@comcast.net) 7. Re: Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 (larry severson) 8. Fitting KR2 Turtle Deck to KR2S parts. (Dan Heath) 9. Re: KR2 Parts For Sale (Ballsofbugs@aol.com) 10. Fitting KR2 with KR2S parts. (larry flesner) 11. RE: Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 (Jack Cooper) 12. Re: KR2 Parts For Sale (MSHUBAT@aol.com) 13. Re: KR-2 project (JAMES FERRIS) 14. Re: KR2 Parts For Sale (Douglas Dorfmeier) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:37:21 -0500 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> New Airfoil on KR-1 To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20041110083208.01ad67c0@mail.peoplepc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:21 PM 11/9/2004, you wrote: > Don Reid may chime in as he did a lot of modeling on the ELF(1) >0414F. But he went with the NACA747A314 on his KR-SXL. > > Several weeks back I did stop at the K.S.P. post in Richmond and >got direction to Your house but no one was home. I was going to chew >the fat and BS. There is a lot that is good with the NFL-0414F, but there is no such thing as a perfect airfoil. They just do not exist. Each airfoil is a collection of compromises and design assumptions. They came be optimized for one very narrow range of flight conditions. At some other set of conditions, another airfoil would be a better choice. Like I said earlier, I picked the NACA 747a315 before I started to study airfoil design. If the rest of the message was intended for me, you should contact me directly. Don Reid - donreid "at" peoplepc.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program: http://www.eaa231.org/AeroFoil/index.htm KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:11:55 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Waijenberg Subject: KR> Kr plans To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041110151155.54068.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, I have a set of KR2S plans for sale. I live in Europe so i think it can be handy for anyone in Europe that are interested. Mail me private if anyone is interested. plj_nl@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:41:59 -0600 From: "James Leverton" Subject: RE: KR> Engines To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This guy does have alot of corvair stuff, however, I picked up the rh and the two rd motors two weeks ago from him. William Wynne is right. email a local corvair club and ask about engines. Thats how I found these three. I already sold one to a buddy and I'm keeping one as a spare. They are out there! Jim >From: >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KR Mailing list" >Subject: KR> Engines >Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:50:22 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mc9-f31.hotmail.com ([65.54.166.38]) by >mc9-s9.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:54:23 -0800 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by mc9-f31.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:54:00 -0800 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30)id 1CRdve-0000yD-UH; Tue, 09 Nov >2004 13:53:30 -0800 >Received: from xo-m5.usfamily.net ([67.104.219.39])by lizard.esosoft.net >with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CRdvX-0000xt-Uefor krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 09 Nov >2004 13:53:24 -0800 >Received: from [146.82.10.86] by usfamily.net (USFamily MTA v2.1.0)with >SMTP id com for ;Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:51:50 -0600 >(CST)(envelope-from patrick36@usfamily.net,authenticated user >patrick36@usfamily.net) >X-Message-Info: StaYHEBmGBp9zIomaQxVzI8STpaMd32EaT9uexOyT4U= >Message-ID: <000c01c4c6a6$1da5ea60$560a5292@oemcomputer> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2004 21:54:00.0499 (UTC) >FILETIME=[9ED73030:01C4C6A6] > >Check these out > >T1228R >T1127RB >T0326RB >T0112RH >T0112RD >T0608RD >64 Engine >Bloc & Bell T0828ZH > Don't know the guy. This appeared in the monthly corvair club >newsletter. >You can call him direct for info. >Jerry Berge (320) 684-2657 > > I believe he is in Minneapolis, MN >Pat Driscoll >Saint Paul, MN 55102 >patrick36@usfamily.net > > > >------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! >------ >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:39:58 +0100 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: KR> Difference between KR2 and KR2S plans To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Could somebody tell me what the difference is between the KR2 and KR2S plans? Serge Vidal Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:40:11 +0000 From: rickcoy@comcast.net Subject: KR> Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <111020041640.13588.4192446B0002DE5400003514220075033097010C050C079D@comcast.net> Boy the KR2-S pre-molded parts are a lot nicer than the KR-2 pre-molds that I got with my 20 year-old project. However, I couldn’t figure out how to make the KR2-S parts fit. The fuel tank and top deck are much shorter and the canopy/canopy frame combination wouldn’t match up with my turtle deck (which is not yet installed). I didn’t have access to a KR2-S turtle deck, so I don’t know if the answer is to get the entire package and just shorten the end of the turtle deck. Has anyone tried to make the new pre-molds work on an old boat? Rick Coykendall Pacifica, CA rickcoy@comcast.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:47:46 +0000 From: rickcoy@comcast.net Subject: KR> Fitting a Revmaster Cowling To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <111020041647.29215.41924631000EE8D30000721F220076143897010C050C079D@comcast.net> The Revmaster cowling doesn’t fit my 20 year old KR-2 because it’s too narrow in front for my VW engine. I have a 3 inch prop extension and it would seem I need another 3 inches. Now, I’d like to avoid this because it would seem to put more stress on the crank, so is there a way to make one of these sleek cowlings fit? Rick Coykendall Pacifica, CA rickcoy@comcast.net ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:53:24 -0800 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20041110084722.031ec958@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The KR2S is longer fore and aft of the wing. Its premolds will have to be MODIFIED to fit a KR2, as you found. >Boy the KR2-S pre-molded parts are a lot nicer than the KR-2 pre-molds >that I got with my 20 year-old project. However, I couldn't figure out how >to make the KR2-S parts fit. > >The fuel tank and top deck are much shorter and the canopy/canopy frame >combination wouldn't match up with my turtle deck (which is not yet >installed). > >I didn't have access to a KR2-S turtle deck, so I don't know if the >answer >is to get the entire package and just shorten the end of the turtle deck. >Has anyone tried to make the new pre-molds work on an old boat? Not me! RR's answer to my questions was to throw away the KR2 project and build a KR2S. Your questions match my reasons that my purchased 30 year old project is not flying. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:47:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Fitting KR2 Turtle Deck to KR2S parts. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41928C5A.000001.02648@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You can make that turtle deck fit anything you want. Just cut the lip off of the front, make a frame that it is to fit to. Bend the deck over the frame, leaving an equal void along each longeron. Fill the void with foam and glass it in place. I have a pic of doing that at:. http://kr-builder.org/TurtleDeck/index.html There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:17:52 EST From: Ballsofbugs@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <157.435b4fc7.2ec3ed90@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Jim May 14453 Potrero Way LaGrange, Ca 95329 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:57:08 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Fitting KR2 with KR2S parts. To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20041110185708.007e8520@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:47 PM 11/10/04 -0500, you wrote: >You can make that turtle deck fit anything you want. Just cut the lip >off of the front, make a frame that it is to fit to. Daniel R. Heath - >Columbia, SC +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I went the other way. I fit a KR2 turtle deck to my 24" stretched fuselage. I installed (glassed) it to the fuselage with the forward end raised approx 3/4". When cured, I split it down the middle all the way to the tail, reshaped it and extended it forward to my turtle deck bow. I closed the top split using a thin piece of lumber covered with duct tape. I laid a glass strip on the board and wetted it with epoxy. I inserted it inside the turtle deck and held it in place on the bottom side with screws from the top. When that cured I filled and glassed the top side. The lumber peeled right off the bottom side. As always, Your results may vary............ Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:15:43 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-220041141121543578@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Rick I used a KR-2S turtle deck on my KR-2. It was not a good fit on the KR-2 because it was too long. The forward end fit the longerons but was too wide for most of the length of the turtle deck. I split the turtle deck down the center lengthwise and then cut a wedge from rear to front on both halves to make it fit the longerons. I also cut off several inches of the rear portion of the turtle deck but ended up with the back of the turtle deck too high where it meets the tail feathers. I raised the forward end for head clearance and built a riser for the longeron which tapered from about 3 inches at the front to 0 at the rear of the turtle deck. It was not an easy job but it is doable. See http://jackandsandycooper.com/canopytd.html for how I made it work. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 11/10/2004 11:40:12 AM > Subject: KR> Fitting KR2-S pre-molds to a KR-2 > > Boy the KR2-S pre-molded parts are a lot nicer than the KR-2 pre-molds that I got with my 20 year-old project. However, I couldn’t figure out how to make the KR2-S parts fit. > > The fuel tank and top deck are much shorter and the canopy/canopy > frame combination wouldn’t match up with my turtle deck (which is not yet installed). > > I didn’t have access to a KR2-S turtle deck, so I don’t know if the answer is to get the entire package and just shorten the end of the turtle deck. Has anyone tried to make the new pre-molds work on an old boat? > > Rick Coykendall > Pacifica, CA > rickcoy@comcast.net > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:19:13 -0500 From: MSHUBAT@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <553B27DC.540D7DCD.00173238@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Let me know how much to make the check out for with shipping and I will get a cashiers check on the way Thanks Matt ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:46:02 -0500 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> KR-2 project To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041110.224603.1360.0.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here is a better deal that was on barnstormers, KR2 with horizontal and vertical,camopy,landing gear,controls already in, center wing built and motor mount for less than $2000.00. the e-mail address is stambook@netzero.net On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:32:48 -0600 Kevin Jarvis writes: > There is a kit and misc. parts for sale on EBAY, > it is item 4502924577. > > A search on "KR-2" without the quotes finds it. > $3,000 starting bid, no reserve, buy now for $6,000 > > seller says, "THIS IS THE DEAL OF A LIFE TIME. !! " > I have no reason to doubt him. > > And that the owner went to a nursing home and won't be back. That > should motivate some people here to finish their own, ..huh > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 20:00:50 -0800 From: "Douglas Dorfmeier" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Matt, A personal check would be sufficent. I will try to get it crated and shipped tomorrow. I will let you know the shipping cost after I ship the parts. Doug Dorfmeier >From: MSHUBAT@aol.com >Reply-To: KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) >Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:19:13 -0500 > >Let me know how much to make the check out for with shipping and I will >get >a cashiers check on the way >Thanks Matt > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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