From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 20 Date: 7/9/2004 7:31:55 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: if you need ballast for CG back in the fuselage, use the battery for ballast (Stephen Jacobs) 2. Wheel Pants (JIM VANCE) 3. Re: Wheel Pants (larry flesner) 4. RE: Wheel Pants (Wood, Sidney M.) 5. For Sale (Mark Jones) 6. Re: KR1 for sale (idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net) 7. Re: Re: Batteries (David Lininger) 8. Pictures (JIM VANCE) 9. Re: Pictures (Kris Feldmann) 10. Killer Turns (Eric Evezard) 11. Re: Pictures (Mark Langford) 12. For Mark Langford (Ron Smith) 13. Re: Re: KR1 for sale (Robert L. Stone) 14. Compression s the key, and something like Cyberview will allow (Dan Heath) 15. Re: Wheel Pants (Dan Heath) 16. Re: Compression s the key, and something like Cyberview will allow (Mark Langford) 17. Gross weight increase on CDN KR2 aircraft (cgardn628) 18. Re: Compression s the key, and something like Cyberview will allow (Dan Heath) 19. Re: Wheel Pants (Joseph H. Horton) 20. Re: KR "design"/Wright Bros. (Pat Driscoll) 21. Re: Pictures (Duncan) 22. What's a speed break? (Duncan) 23. Type 1 VW Fuel Injector Fab (Ron Eason) 24. Gathering - only 76 days away. (Mark Jones) 25. Re: What's a speed break? (Dan Heath) 26. Re: Gathering - only 76 days away. (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 06:03:31 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> if you need ballast for CG back in the fuselage, use the battery for ballast To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c46569$b4c690a0$0a64a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One thing to be aware of if you do decide to do that, is the length of the cable that you will have to run. ++++++++++++++++ Another thing to be aware of, is where the battery will go in the unfortunate event of a mishap. We install seat belts because we consider stopping suddenly a possibility. I would not like several lbs of lead anywhere behind me. Happy Friday Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 06:18:49 -0500 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: KR> Wheel Pants To: "krnet" Message-ID: <007301c465a9$887ba720$0100007f@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've completed the molds to make my wheel pants. As Mark has said, they will look like dolphins under the wings. And I made them that way on porpoise. Should a liner be placed inside around the wheel to keep the pants from filling with debris or water? Is 1/2 inch clearance on the tire sufficient? Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:41:46 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Wheel Pants To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040709064146.008f0790@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Should a liner be placed inside around the wheel to keep the pants from filling with debris or water? >Jim Vance +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'd say no. The tighter the space around the wheel the easier it will be for it to pack with mud, snow, etc. Water? How tight is the opening around your tire? Many wheel pants such as Cessna, Piper, have a mud scraper built into the pant on the backside of the tire to cut down the amount of mud that gets in but that probably isn't necessary on the KR. Clearance? Generally speaking, the tighter the better. Just realize that in the case of a flat you may get some pant damage. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:22:28 -0400 From: "Wood, Sidney M." Subject: RE: KR> Wheel Pants To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The baffles, front and back, do keep mud, snow, stones, dirt, etc. from accumulating in the front and back of the wheel pant. Another important function is to limit circulation of air around the wheel for better streamline air flow at the opening. You can get so carried away with the tight fit that you limit the cooling air for the brakes. One-half inch is a practical limit. Make sure there are no shelf areas inside the pant that could accumulate debris. The baffles also strengthen the sidewalls, so you can build the pants lighter. Be sure to leave room for the mounting bracket when you install the baffle. A drain vent at the bottom is needed if the compartment will be sealed (one of those altitude things to keep in mind). Sid Wood, Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD USA Sidney.wood@titan.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Should a liner be placed inside around the wheel to keep the pants from filling with debris or water? >Jim Vance +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'd say no. The tighter the space around the wheel the easier it will be for it to pack with mud, snow, etc. Water? How tight is the opening around your tire? Many wheel pants such as Cessna, Piper, have a mud scraper built into the pant on the backside of the tire to cut down the amount of mud that gets in but that probably isn't necessary on the KR. Clearance? Generally speaking, the tighter the better. Just realize that in the case of a flat you may get some pant damage. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:41:18 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> For Sale To: KR Net Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902AAC@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain Since it is Friday, I am listing this again. I have for sale one Rand Robinson Flap Handle assembly. This is the manual flap handle assembly that Rand Robinson sells for $90 as listed in their pricing. I have installed an electric actuator and no linger need this. Make me a reasonable offer and it's yours. Buyer pays UPS shipping. Thanks Mark Jones Wales, WI flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:20:38 -0700 From: Subject: KR> Re: KR1 for sale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c465c8$4a6d05e0$0f00a8c0@greg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I still havn't learned how to use the digital camera yet. So I still don't have pictures to send as of yet. I'm still looking to sell the KR1. It's had a license and has about 178 hour of the plane. No engine. The header tank has been removed and tanks in the wing are under construction. I want $2,500. If I don't get that, I'll keep it and finish the job. Greg Martin 661-823-9401 off. 661-240-9723 hm ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:41:14 -0500 From: David Lininger Subject: Re: KR> Re: Batteries To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040709103546.00acb3b0@mail.positech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:54 PM 7/8/04 -0400, you wrote: >Guys, > As I search for the space to mount the battery box on the >firewall I started to wonder if 2 smaller batteries could be used >together for the electric system but mount them at different locations >on the fire wall and operate them in series??? Unless you are using 6 volt batteries you will want to connect them in parallel. This might be an advantage, since you could include circuitry (switches) to operate from either or both batteries. Ford diesel pickups use a similar system. You actually only need lots of current for starting. I'd total my load not counting starting, and keep it under half the starting current. That way the two batteries, working together, provide enough current to start the engine, while either battery alone would be sufficient for actually running the plane. David Lininger kb0zke@positech.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 11:03:45 -0500 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: KR> Pictures To: "krnet" Message-ID: <001f01c465ce$50eb9020$0a00a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Since this is Friday, I'm going to ask a non-KR question. I take pictures with my 35mm Canon, scan them into the confuser, then send them by e-mail to my family. I'm still waiting for the 5 megapixel cameras with a good zoom lens to come down to about $300. My question is, what resolution is adequate for net pictures? What is an adequate size? I've tried some lower resolutions with my HP scanner, but I still get files that are several megabytes. I would like to send some adequate brag pictures without spending 20 minutes sending them over my dial-up modem (one of the pleasures of living in the great American desert called rural Kansas). Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:19:48 -0700 From: Kris Feldmann Subject: Re: KR> Pictures To: KRnet Message-ID: <40EED3B4.7060603@wb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The resolution should probably be between 640x480 and 800x600 pixels. You should save the files in JPEG (.jpg) format. If your software allows you to select the level of JPEG compression (or quality) start with medium and see how it looks. You should end up with images then which will look great on the 'net but use only about 150-250KB each rather than several MB. Kris Feldmann JIM VANCE wrote: > Since this is Friday, I'm going to ask a non-KR question. I take > pictures with my 35mm Canon, scan them into the confuser, then send > them by e-mail to my family. I'm still waiting for the 5 megapixel > cameras with a good zoom lens to come down to about $300. > > My question is, what resolution is adequate for net pictures? What is > an adequate size? > > I've tried some lower resolutions with my HP scanner, but I still get > files that are several megabytes. I would like to send some adequate > brag pictures without spending 20 minutes sending them over my dial-up > modem (one of the pleasures of living in the great American desert > called rural Kansas). > > Jim Vance > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:16:55 +0200 From: "Eric Evezard" Subject: KR> Killer Turns To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c465e1$0a3c7dc0$a2ce07c4@r5c9m8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Barry I agree wholeheartedly with you about glider spin training.Here in SA we also give intensive practical spin training for glider pilots.It is quite normal to have a handfull of gliders all in the same thermal and at different height Iif one spins down through the lot it could be disasterous.At an early stage the pupil is taught spin recovery,before he even goes solo.More emphasis however is put into the "insipient spin" ie Stop the spin before it starts,to recognise the onset of a spin immediately.and correct .Even with this skill there was always a danger that the pilot,on turning final would spin in .These accidents were mostly fatal.Being too low,and trying to stretch the glide over the fence,made a lower and slower situation with possible fatal results.In a KR,on engine failure.trying to stretch the glide over the fence could also have dire consequences.Better to use the fence as an arrester gear,I think.Even a barbed wire fence with steel supports might be safer. Best Regards, Eric Evezard S.Africa ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 11:39:08 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Pictures To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008301c465d3$45755a00$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" JIM VANCE wrote: > My question is, what resolution is adequate for net pictures? What is > an adequate size? See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/misc.html for a decent explanation of what you need, and how to get it that way, as well as how to make a web page. 640x480 is the short answer though. To get a clue as to the size of a picture that you see on the web, right click on one and choose "properties" from Explorer and it will tell you how big it is. Compression is the key, and something like Cyberview will allow you to tell how much is too much. If you are scanning, use 72 dpi and then you can still compress it by at least 80% after that using Cyberview. Don't pay Cyberview. Don't give them $39.95 for "version 5". I've been waiting for three years for the upgrade. For now you can do the trial version for free, and give 'em $29.95 later, or somebody probably knows of a freebie on the web that'll do the same job. Personally, I used Photoshop these days, and you should have gotten some sort of similar software with your scanner AND your digital camera, so start there first. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM VANCE" To: "krnet" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: KR> Pictures > Since this is Friday, I'm going to ask a non-KR question. I take > pictures with my 35mm Canon, scan them into the confuser, then send them by e-mail to my family. I'm still waiting for the 5 megapixel cameras with a good zoom lens to come down to about $300. > > My question is, what resolution is adequate for net pictures? What is > an adequate size? > > I've tried some lower resolutions with my HP scanner, but I still get files that are several megabytes. I would like to send some adequate brag pictures without spending 20 minutes sending them over my dial-up modem (one of the pleasures of living in the great American desert called rural Kansas). > > Jim Vance > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:33:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> For Mark Langford To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040709193357.45085.qmail@web81704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mark I know you are busy, and I certainly don't want to presume upon you, but I am getting ready to glue my fuselage together. I shaped my fuselage to match the "new airfoil" and I thought others might like to see it. Can I email those photos to you? If so, where? It will be a couple of days til I can send them. Let me know if you're interested. Ron Smith, God is in the details ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:48:29 -0500 (Central Standard Time) From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Re: KR1 for sale To: Message-ID: <40EF049D.000007.01924@YOUR-AT5QGAAC3Z> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greg, I am interested in your aircraft but I need some pictures and also is it a tail dragger or tri gear. If you have a regular camera why not just take some pictures and send them in the mail. Let me know where you are and if you have a trailer to move it on. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 07/09/04 10:21:58 To: KRnet Subject: KR> Re: KR1 for sale I still havn't learned how to use the digital camera yet. So I still don't have pictures to send as of yet. I'm still looking to sell the KR1. It's had a license and has about 178 hour of the plane. No engine. The header tank has been removed and tanks in the wing are under construction. I want $2,500. If I don't get that, I'll keep it and finish the job. Greg Martin 661-823-9401 off. 661-240-9723 hm _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:52:04 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Compression s the key, and something like Cyberview will allow To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40EF0574.000005.01976@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, Have you ever heard of IrfanView? www.irfanview.com and it is free. It is what I use to make all my thumbnails and size all my pics. It is easy to use, does batch rename and compression. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:57:33 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Wheel Pants To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40EF06BD.000007.01976@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone ever heard from the person at last year's gathering who brought wheel pants that he was making and said that he would make the mold available or make pants for sale? "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:08:15 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Compression s the key, and something like Cyberview will allow To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00ff01c465f8$dc044a60$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan Heath wrote: > Have you ever heard of IrfanView? www.irfanview.com and it is free. It > is what I use to make all my thumbnails and size all my pics. It is easy to > use, does batch rename and compression. Yes, I have. It's great stuff, and regarded as the defacto free image viewer in the digital photography world. I didn't know it also did compression (maybe that's relatively new), but I'd say there's your free software that I was talking about. I haven't used it much, but if you can't find "compression" anywhere, it may be that you have to "save as" for that screen to appear (at least that's how Photoshop works). The neat thing about Cyberview is that you can use sliders to see the effects of compression real time, and maybe Irfanview does something similar. Once you get the hang of it though, you'll know exactly what to compress it to without having to look. I save all of mine to 3 on a scale of 10 in Photoshop. By all means, use Irfanview. It's highly recommended. My 640 x 480 photos usually end up around 25-35k, and that's good enough for web work... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:05:01 -0400 From: "cgardn628" Subject: KR> Gross weight increase on CDN KR2 aircraft To: "KR NET" Message-ID: <013601c465f8$66260900$6601a8c0@mdgwd52jlrmc3l> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KR Heads; Just a short note to advise all Candian builders that I have now received approval from Transport Canada to operate my KR2S aircraft at 1150 lbs gross weight.( first in Canada , I believe) Many thanks to all the KR pilots on this site that provided testimonials on their US based aircraft to help this process along.( Larry, Jim and many others) Anyone also considering this increase, please send your ; 1. Letter to request the change 2. New C of A forms 3. Weight and balance calculations to ; Jeff Langford Transport Canada langfoj@tc.gc.ca Regards Chris Gardiner ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:10:49 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Compression s the key, and something like Cyberview will allow To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40EF09D9.00000D.01976@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I also have PhotoShop but find IrfanView much easier to use for the purpose stated. All you have to do is, open your folder with the pics in it, drag one of the pics onto your IrfanView icon on your desktop, click on File, Batch Conversion/rename. From there it is a piece of cake. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:26:12 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> Wheel Pants To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040709.172613.1104.2.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dan Check Mark Langford's photos from the Gathering. I think there was a photo of him there with his name. Joe On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:57:33 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) "Dan Heath" writes: > Has anyone ever heard from the person at last year's gathering who > brought > wheel pants that he was making and said that he would make the mold > available or make pants for sale? > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time > for > building has long since expired." > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:55:34 -0500 From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: Re: KR> KR "design"/Wright Bros. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000801c465ff$76527dc0$6a0a5292@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The Wright Bros. were said to have visited Gustav Whitehead's shop. Twoyears before their first flight and after Gustav's flight. (We don't know that). Pat Driscoll patrick36@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:26:16 +1200 From: Duncan Subject: Re: Pictures To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040710112543.0246cc30@styx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Vance, There are three things to consider when preparing a picture for viewing on the Web. Resolution, size and file format. In general, the optimal size is determined by your particular needs, and there is no way I can comment on this. As far as resolution is concerned, you can get away with amazingly low res. For example, even 72dpi is quite acceptable for viewing online. Increase this at your peril, for you will find the file size will spiral out of all proportion. So forget the ridiculous resolutions created by digital cameras and scanners, and reduce the resolution way, way down. Remember, VDU's are relatively low-res devices, so if you are preparing graphics for screen viewing, anything over 72dpi is largely wasted. The type of file you choose to save your picture as has a huge impact on the size of the file. The same picture in GIF format can be more than three times larger than the JPG version. The same 800x639 graphic can vary hugely in size, as follows: JPG: 106kb GIF: 332kb BMP: 1498kb It would make sense, therefore, so save your pictures in the JPG (or JPEG) format. All photo editors will do this. I use PaintShop Pro (free download), and it works a charm. Something else you might want to try: search the Web for graphic file optimisers. Find one you like the sound of, and run your pictures through that. It will do all the hard work of optimising your pictures for the Web or screen viewing, and you will get the smallest possible file size. Infranview is one, but there are others. One final thought... If you are not already doing so, zip the photo before sending it. Winzip, or WinRar (or any number of other free file compression utilities) are freely available on the Web for download. Hope some of this helps, Duncan ======================================= >My question is, what resolution is adequate for net pictures? What is an >adequate size? > >I've tried some lower resolutions with my HP scanner, but I still get >files that are several megabytes. I would like to send some adequate brag >pictures without spending 20 minutes sending them over my dial-up modem >(one of the pleasures of living in the great American desert called rural >Kansas). > >Jim Vance >Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com >My question is, what resolution is adequate for net pictures? What is an >adequate size? ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:41:12 +1200 From: Duncan Subject: KR> What's a speed break? To: krnet Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040710123153.02445f38@styx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, I've just got to ask... What on earth is a speed break, and why is it regarded (by some?) as a good thing to have on your KR? I was at the local aero club yesterday, and asked one of the knowledgeable builders what he thought of the KR2. He thought for a moment and said, "Very sensitive on the controls. And they float on landing. Definitely not a short strip plane". Would this be an accurate summary of the plane? Which brings me back to the speed brake question. Am I correct in assuming that it a device which assists in slowing the plane down on landing, and reducing the float? If so, it would seem a very desirable addition. And where can I find out more? Intrigued. BTW, reading the many posts which deal with KR2 pitch sensitivity in which the comparison is frequently made to a Cessna 152 or similar aircraft, also has me intrigued. I've never flown a 152 or anything like it. I've just got my PPL in a Robin R2120. Low wing, O-235, glides like a brick. It certainly doesn't fly for more than a few seconds hands-off, no matter how carefully it is trimmed or how stable the air. I regard this as normal. Anyone else flown one of these planes? If this is all that is meant by the KR2's pitch sensitivity, then my worries are over as far as this is concerned. Or is the KR2's flight characteristics more sinister than this? Regards, Duncan ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:25:34 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: KR> Type 1 VW Fuel Injector Fab To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005a01c4661c$cc411030$6501a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Type 1 VW Fuel Injector Fab is at http://www.matronics.com/photoshare if anyone is interested. KRron ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 21:29:02 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Gathering - only 76 days away. To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <008201c46625$aa4099c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It has been brought to my attention that everyone who has parts for sale or trade should bring them to the gathering. This could be a good time to do a little bartering, horse trading or simply just sell those items you do not need such as the flap handle I need to sell. Instruments, avionics, hardware, preformed parts, home made parts, heck just anything you think someone else may want. Bring it and tag it with your name and selling price. Who knows, what you do not need any longer may be just what someone else is looking for. Lets make this gathering one for the record books. Let's shoot for the largest attendance ever along with the most KR's ever. I am getting the fever and bet the rest of you are too. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 22:29:43 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> What's a speed break? To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40EF5497.000001.03172@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Duncan, Did you also read about how great the KR fly's? Most of the comments on this net about pitch sensitivity are from people who have never flown a KR. I have read it described as responsive by those who have flown one. In fact, that is the way I describe it and I have 185 hours in one. I have never flown what you are talking about, but it sounds similar. The KR does float, but I have put mine in a 2500 grass strip over 50 ft. trees. This is not say that it is a STOL, but you can get into relatively short fields if you do it right. I am sure that Larry F. will be glad to tell you all about the speed brake. >From what I read, it has become very popular recently. Our KR does not have one and I would not add the weight and complexity and crowd up the tiny cockpit for what it would be worth to me. However, I do think they are a good thing if you are willing to pay the price for it. Our plane has the Diehl long wings and my first KR had the short stock wings so I may be eating my words after flying this one, but we will see. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 22:31:53 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering - only 76 days away. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40EF5519.000003.03172@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OOOOORRAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 20 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================