From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 218 Date: 11/23/2004 3:19:53 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. LSA mechanic rules (Wesley Scott) 2. Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (kleirfall@ecomail.org) 3. Re: Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (Mark Jones) 4. LSA mechanic rules (rhartwig11@juno.com) 5. Re: Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (Robert L. Stone) 6. Re: Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (Mark Jones) 7. LSA certification (Colin & Bev Rainey) 8. Re: Corvair engines (was Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2?) (Mark Langford) 9. THE HARBOR FREIGHT PAINT SPRAY GUN (camrwm@earthlink.net) 10. Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (larry flesner) 11. Re: Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (paulwasp@webtv.net) 12. Re: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (Steven Phillabaum) 13. Re: Revmaster (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 14. Re: LSA mechanic rules (Rick Human) 15. Re: LSA mechanic rules (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 16. Re: LSA mechanic rules (Joachim Saupe) 17. Re: LSA mechanic rules (Dan Heath) 18. Re: Revmaster (Dan Heath) 19. LSA rules (Colin & Bev Rainey) 20. NASA test program (Colin & Bev Rainey) 21. Re: Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? (Mark Jones) 22. PINK SLIP (Mark Jones) 23. RE: PINK SLIP (Joachim Saupe) 24. Re: PINK SLIP (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 25. RE: PINK SLIP (Stephen Jacobs) 26. Re: PINK SLIP (Joseph H. Horton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:25:09 -0600 From: "Wesley Scott" Subject: KR> LSA mechanic rules To: Message-ID: <000c01c4d11c$ce582870$33a30a04@pbrain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The new rules for who can perform annual condition inspections only apply to the new classifications, i.e. Special Light Sport and Experimental Light Sport. And remember that you can only have an Experimental Light Sport if the manufacturer has certificated a plane as a Special Light Sport and proved that the plane meets the consensus performance and design standards. Or to put it simply, the new rules don't apply to KRs. -- wesley scott kr2@spottedowl.biz Message: 16 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: Grant Watkins Subject: Re: KR> General Homebuilt Info To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041123030326.85126.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You may want to check into some of the rule changes that came about with the sport pilot certification. I believe that some of the rules that apply to being the mechanic or A&P for an experimental or sport type aircraft have changed. I was at an EAA meeting recently where they discussed the changes and I think that you can go to some fairly brief training and become the primary mechanic on an aircraft that you have purchased as long as the aircraft is "sport" eligible. robert glidden wrote:You actually can apply for a repairman's certificate if you build the majority of the aircraft,but if two people build it only one repairman's certificate can be issued.And the repairman's certificate is only for that aircraft and no others. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:11:19 -0700 From: kleirfall@ecomail.org Subject: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <1101193879.41a2e29709faa@www.ecomail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Would the 65hp Lycoming 0-145 work with the KR-2? If not, what dollar friendly engine would? <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< This email comes to you via EcoMail! Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* account ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:06:12 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c4d154$d7f915a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The most dollar friendly motor is the Corvair. Add up 110 HP, $100 for a core engine and $3,000.00 for a rebuild and you have the best bang for the buck, hands down! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:11 AM Subject: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? > Would the 65hp Lycoming 0-145 work with the KR-2? If not, what dollar > friendly engine would? > > > > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< This email > comes to you via EcoMail! Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign > up for your *FREE* account > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:34:33 -0600 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> LSA mechanic rules To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041123.063434.2568.1.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Or to put it simply, the new rules don't apply to KRs." Wes, If the KR is built strictly to plans I agree it won't qualify as an LSA, but very few are built to plans. I am planning to build my version of a KR2S single place, very light, and have a longer wing. I have no doubt it will meet the LSA standards. I can choose to call it a KR or a KFliver or whatever. Much of the rule refers to kits and factory manufactured aircraft, but I believe the rules also apply to "one-off originals". Here is a quote from the EAA website: "Experimental amateur-built aircraft that meet the definition of an LSA can be flown by sport pilots or those holding higher pilot certificates." I would appreciate comments from others who have read the rules. Dick H ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:37:24 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: Message-ID: <41A32F04.000001.03028@YOUR-AT5QGAAC3Z> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I have a few questions, Is $100.00 for a core engine an average price for a junk yard core Corvair engine? The $3000.00 you mention, is this for the parts only to build up the engine and convert it to use for aircraft or does that figure include having someone who is qualified do it? Bob Stone rstone4@hot.rr.com -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 11/23/04 06:06:17 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? The most dollar friendly motor is the Corvair. Add up 110 HP, $100 for a core engine and $3,000.00 for a rebuild and you have the best bang for the buck, hands down! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:11 AM Subject: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? > Would the 65hp Lycoming 0-145 work with the KR-2? If not, what dollar > friendly engine would? > > > > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > This email comes to you via EcoMail! > Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* > account > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:45:01 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003801c4d15a$43d65bc0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The $100 for a core is an average. I would say 75% of cores are bought at that price. That is what I paid for mine. The $3000 was for all new parts to rebuild the engine myself. William Wynne is selling complete ready to fly engines that he built if you want it built by a "qualified" person. His price for a ready to fly engine still beats the rest. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Stone" > > I have a few questions, Is $100.00 for a core engine an average price > for a junk yard core Corvair engine? The $3000.00 you mention, is > this for > the parts only to build up the engine and convert it to use for > aircraft or > does that figure include having someone who is qualified do it? core > engine and $3,000.00 for a rebuild and you have the best bang for the> > buck, hands down! ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:01:27 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> LSA certification To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003b01c4d15c$8b4d1e60$2d432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You would basically end up entering a test program very similar to that of a new company to prove that your version was not only a safe version of the plane, but also met the standard set out by the rules. They will not take on "faith" from your recordings, as they do for a normal experimental since your example is departing from the group and attempting to qualify for a different catagory. You will end up scheduling test sessions that are observed and recorded by an approved person, that evaluate your version to comply with the new rules, and then you could certify it that way. Since almost all examples of the KR2 and KR2S do not qualify for ELSA or LSA you will have to perform the same or similar exhaustive testing that the manufacturers are having to do. If your goal truly is to have a ELSA either pick a different design, or build the KR1 motorglider which falls into a different catagory and accomplishes getting airborne alittle differently, but skips the normal experimental hoops and pilot requirements. Bottom line that all need to understand as Dana Overall pointed out some time ago: Passing this rule and creating this catagory is NOT and never was meant by the FAA to improve aviation by adding another pilot and aircraft catagory, to make it easier to fly. This is a ruling that brings into the fold all the borderline aircraft and actual ultralights and powered parachutes so that now pilots of these aircraft also have to have some form of a license to fly, whereas before they did not. It is an exciting time in Aviation because of advancements. But this rating and catagory is meant to add regulation to a previously un-regulated part of the industry, not to make it easier to fly. Do not believe for one minute that it will be any easier to get an airplane certified because of these rules. On the contrary, I can see it actually being easier to get approved in the experimental due to established history, than to get one approved in the new catagory with all its attention and inevitable growing pains. FLY SAFE! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:11:45 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engines (was Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2?) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00db01c4d15d$fdbfb6a0$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think just about anybody short of a moron is "qualified" to build a Corvair conversion engine. If you buy William Wynne's $59 conversion manual, combined with the $15 GM factory manual, you are immediately armed with all the information you'll need to build a safe Corvair airplane engine. The few tools that you don't have can be bought inexpensively or even rented. As a long-time VW mechanic, I'll be quick to tell you that the Corvair is even easier to rebuild or do maintenance on than a VW. There's a cover on top that you can remove to gain full access to the crank and rods. VW's could only dream of that kind of accessibility. And if you need professional help building your Corvair engine, just take your core and your pile of new parts to one of the many Corvair Colleges that William Wynne holds for FREE all over the country and let him and his crew look over your shoulder as you build it! For more info on the Corvair engine, see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/ and http://www.flycorvair.com/ . I'm convinced that this is by far the least expensive, yet still reliable, airplane engines in the 100-130hp range. And the six cylinders is something that you don't get with a VW. You can lose one whole cylinder and hardly notice the difference... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:47:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: camrwm@earthlink.net Subject: KR> THE HARBOR FREIGHT PAINT SPRAY GUN To: KRnet Message-ID: <27223634.1101217655898.JavaMail.root@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could someone please identify the"good" subject spray gun by Harbor Freight part number.You can respond directly to me at camrwm@earthlink.net Thanks Bob Morrissey ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:14:28 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20041123081428.008066c0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:11 AM 11/23/04 -0700, you wrote: >Would the 65hp Lycoming 0-145 work with the KR-2? If not, what dollar >friendly engine would? > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you're looking for "dollar friendly" I don't think you want the Lyc 0-145. With the little exposure I've had with that engine my advise is to turn your back to the engine and run till you're out of breath. I believe they are prone to cracking the case as happened to a friend of mine with his early model Taylorcraft. I'd leave it for the restorers of the early model aircraft that it was originally installed in. "Dollar friendly"? Consider the Corvair. They may seem like the latest fad but they have been flying in aircraft since the late 60's. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:27:25 -0500 From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <15052-41A348CD-2166@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Hi, all; Do you think it would be prudent to ask, on line, what Mr Wynne wants for one of his completed Corvairs with the engine mount included? Or someone could email me off net. Paul ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:42:27 +0000 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: KRnet Message-ID: <3k7897$hu2215@mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Type in Flycorvair.com and you shall be saved. Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Alabama > > Hi, all; > Do you think it would be prudent to ask, on line, what Mr Wynne wants > for one of his completed Corvairs with the engine mount included? Or > someone could email me off net. > > Paul > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:46:00 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Revmaster To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <9d.5374d1a0.2ed4df68@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Get any thoughts on a revmaster 2100d which has been compelety rebuilt (new crank) puts out about 80 HP with the flowmaster injector carb? ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:04:22 -0600 From: "Rick Human" Subject: Re: KR> LSA mechanic rules To: "Wesley Scott" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002d01c4d1a0$024bc870$83d6dacf@desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I just sat through a briefing by the local FSDO on the Sport Pilot program - from the PowerPoint presentation on the FAA website - neglecting the power chutes, auto gyros, and gliders which I don't think that we are interested in. There are basically three categories of Sport Aircraft 1. Special Light Sport Aircraft - these are the factory aircraft built to consensus standards - there are not any "official" standards as of yet - so buyer beware 2. Experimental Light Sport - these are aircraft that can be up to 99% completed by the manufacture - the buyer then "completes the aircraft" (can be as little as bolting on the wheels and propeller). The manufacturer only has to complete one example and show that it satisfies all the criteria namely top speed, stall speed and weight. There is a third category but it's not new - that the Experimental - there is not any kind of Special or Light tag attached. These are aircraft where more that 51% of the aircraft is amateur built - The "manufacturer" ( that's you and me) then completes the flight test program and enters into the log at the completion of the program the same information in Brain Kraut's note on 11/17 - (flight test after mods). Everything that was in the presentation is on EAA's website - and is in agreement - except one area which I believe the FAA rep to be in error and that's on the issue of "lift enhancing devices" read Flaps - he was saying that Light Sport Aircraft could not be equipped - I disagree - I believe the 45k stall speed is the max stall in a clean condition. I believe that a KR-2 can be built and flown in the Light Sport category with very little modifications and without any new or added FAA involvement. Rick Human Houston, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wesley Scott" To: Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:25 PM Subject: KR> LSA mechanic rules > The new rules for who can perform annual condition inspections only > apply > to > the new classifications, i.e. Special Light Sport and Experimental Light > Sport. And remember that you can only have an Experimental Light Sport if > the manufacturer has certificated a plane as a Special Light Sport and > proved that the plane meets the consensus performance and design > standards. > > Or to put it simply, the new rules don't apply to KRs. > > -- > wesley scott > kr2@spottedowl.biz > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:03:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Grant Watkins > Subject: Re: KR> General Homebuilt Info > To: KRnet > Message-ID: <20041123030326.85126.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > You may want to check into some of the rule changes that came about > with > the > sport pilot certification. I believe that some of the rules that apply to > being the mechanic or A&P for an experimental or sport type aircraft have > changed. I was at an EAA meeting recently where they discussed the > changes > and I think that you can go to some fairly brief training and become the > primary mechanic on an aircraft that you have purchased as long as the > aircraft is "sport" eligible. > > robert glidden wrote:You actually can apply for a > repairman's certificate if you build the majority of the aircraft,but > if two people build it only one repairman's certificate can be > issued.And the repairman's certificate is only for that aircraft and > no others. > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:08:43 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> LSA mechanic rules To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041123.163737.132.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How much longer would the wings be??? One of the KR designer rules was NOT to lengthen the wings!!! The spars are not designed for such a load. Do your own engineering on this one, Virg On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:34:33 -0600 rhartwig11@juno.com writes: > "Or to put it simply, the new rules don't apply to KRs." > Wes, > If the KR is built strictly to plans I agree it won't qualify as an > LSA, > but very few are built to plans. I am planning to build my version > of a > KR2S single place, very light, and have a longer wing. I have no > doubt > it will meet the LSA standards. I can choose to call it a KR or a > KFliver or whatever. Much of the rule refers to kits and factory > manufactured aircraft, but I believe the rules also apply to > "one-off > originals". Here is a quote from the EAA website: "Experimental > amateur-built aircraft that meet the definition of an LSA can be > flown by > sport pilots or those holding higher pilot certificates." > > I would appreciate comments from others who have read the rules. > Dick H > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:39:49 -0600 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: Re: KR> LSA mechanic rules To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200411223213949593@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII <> I believe that you are right! At one time There was a speed given clean and another with flaps. But as the rules went into effect, the only stall speed requirement is clean. Joachim ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:18:02 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> LSA mechanic rules To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41A3B71A.000001.01352@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: One of the KR designer rules was NOT to lengthen the wings!!! Interesting that everyone using Dan Diehl, and maybe even Rand, wing skins is using longer wings. That is a lot of KRs. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:19:49 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Revmaster To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41A3B785.000003.01352@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Who re-built it? If from the factory, then probably OK, but other than that, you will have to be the judge. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- Get any thoughts on a revmaster 2100d which has been compelety rebuilt (new crank) ? ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:29:03 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> LSA rules To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006601c4d1ab$d68771b0$2d432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I believe that your FAA briefer was attempting to state that the aircraft cannot have a combination of lift enhancing devices, retractable gear, and inflight adjustable prop, which would constitute a complex aircraft. Flaps alone would not be prohibited because they make approaches safer, they just might be prohibited for establishing the stall speed as previously stated. You are really opening up a can of worms if you attempt to build a KR1 or 2 and get it certified under the ELSA rules due to the fact that more than 1000 examples have already been built which do not comform to the rules. After extensive exposure to the FAA, both attempting to get inspected, and nearly 4 years as an Aviation Safety Counselor, I firmly believe that you will not be able to simply request your example be certified under the new rule without extensive proving ground type testing prior to certification. There is no manufacturer of the KR so there is no parent company to provide a factory example modified to conform to the new rules. With so many not conforming, I can see the DAR unwilling to approve ELSA until you prove to him that your plane does in fact conform. I know for sure that no actual FAA employee will sign off on it. I can tell you that solo, with belly board deployed, my KR2 sets down between 50 and 55 mph IN GROUND EFFECT. Clean air stall will be higher. If I were intending on trying to make the KR conform, I would use one of the commercially available design software programs, and input the known data from the examples of KRs flying and then see what modification that the software predicts must be done to achieve the performance numbers, save that data to show the DAR, and then decide whether those modifications warrant going ahead with this design or another design. Remember that snowball rolling downhill.... (ie: changes grow ) FLY SAFE! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:42:52 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> NASA test program To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007601c4d1ad$c4287670$2d432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well here is the latest report from near the Cape on our NASA like test program (barely off the ground and hit a major snag) Prop was over pitched, so simple solution: send it back have re-pitched.....NOT! Prop cannot be re-pitched cause it is too far that way. Sooooo wait for new prop to be cut and then re-install it, oh yea...but have to order new prop bolts because the new prop will not be as thick....aaaarrrrggghhhh. This does not sound like a YEEAAWWW. Oh well, they should be shipping out the new prop on Monday, so testing can resume Thursday weather permitting. I think I am going into DTs.... Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:46:53 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Lycoming 0-145 for KR-2? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001e01c4d1ae$59017940$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just an FYI here for those trying to decide what engine to use. All engines are subject to failure, some more than others. Yesterday, a few miles from my home, a Sonex equipped with an Aerovee VW conversion engine, crashed shortly after take off. The problem according to the FSDO man I talked to today was a broken crank. Ever looked at how beefy a Corvair crank is compared to a VW!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- > At 12:11 AM 11/23/04 -0700, you wrote: > >Would the 65hp Lycoming 0-145 work with the KR-2? If not, what > >dollar friendly engine would? > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:49:31 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> PINK SLIP To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <002701c4d1ae$b6c51320$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was given the infamous Pink Slip from the FAA today. I am in possession of that pink piece of paper we all dream of getting that states "Special Airworthiness Certificate". Here is my Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:57:29 -0600 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: RE: KR> PINK SLIP To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200411223225729406@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII CONGRATS > [Original Message] > From: Mark Jones > To: KR Net > Date: 11/23/2004 4:40:48 PM > Subject: KR> PINK SLIP > > I was given the infamous Pink Slip from the FAA today. I am in > possession of that pink piece of paper we all dream of getting that states "Special Airworthiness Certificate". > > Here is my Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:59:06 -0600 From: Subject: Re: KR> PINK SLIP To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006601c4d1b0$09192a70$abca5844@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original .krnet.org/info.html CONGRATULATIONS MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT EXPRESS YOUR EXCITEMENT FOR AWHILE !!!!!!!! Ray Goree ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:10:54 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> PINK SLIP To: , "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000701c4d1b1$b5d8d700$c564a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Take care and good luck Be a real devil and beat Flinkdink to the blue yonder ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:17:37 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> PINK SLIP To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041123.181738.3000.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:49:31 -0600 "Mark Jones" writes: > I was given the infamous Pink Slip from the FAA today. I am in > possession of that pink piece of paper we all dream of getting that > states "Special Airworthiness Certificate". > > Here is my Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee > Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! Alright Mark-- I'm having a cold one in your honor. Only one more big step to go!! Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 218 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================