From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 24 Date: 4/12/2004 9:00:15 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Joe Horton update. (Mark Jones) 2. tailwheel help pls (j stevens) 3. RE: O200 (Ross Evans) 4. kr2S flying (Ross Evans) 5. Re: kr2S flying (joe) 6. Re: O200 (Stowers) 7. Re: AS504x airfoil - ailerons (Steve and Lori McGee) 8. tailwheel help pls (larry flesner) 9. CONTROL SURFACES (larry flesner) 10. 2 pitot questions (larry flesner) 11. Re: CONTROL SURFACES (Steve and Lori McGee) 12. Re: 2 pitot questions (Mark Jones) 13. Solenoid (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:12:33 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Joe Horton update. To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <00b501c420e3$a3823120$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe just sent me a new photo of his KR and I have added it to the web site. Here is the link if you wish to take a look. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/JoeHorton2.html Be sure to visit page one of his site if you want to see an incredible interior and some good shots of stub wing tanks. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:10:47 -0500 From: j stevens Subject: KR> tailwheel help pls To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <407B3007.2040708@usfamily.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Does anyone know what the minimum load and speed ratings for the KR2s tail wheel is? Joel ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:11:24 +1000 From: "Ross Evans" Subject: RE: KR> O200 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi gavin 0200's are expensive little engines there is on for sale in brisbane for about 17 000 to zero time in excess of 25 000 cheers ross >From: "Gavin Donohoe" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KR builders and pilots" >Subject: KR> O200 >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:52:44 +1000 > >HI All, >I'm shying away from the EJ22 now in favour of the Continental O200 for >weight reasons. Trouble is over here in Australia it's hard to get one >(O200). Are they hard to get in the US as well? If not who would be able to >help me find one and organise shipping to Australia? > >Gavin >Australia >PS we don't get Corvairs here or I might have one of them instead > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004 >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:21:44 +1000 From: "Ross Evans" Subject: KR> kr2S flying To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed HI guys I have just got home from narromine (natfly) Austrailia I flew gary morgans kr2S with 27 foot wings and and extra foot of horizontal stabilizer it has an aeropower vw 2180 and cruises easy at 115knots. I flew the plane upto 140 knots and it is a dream to fly! I am getting closer with my plane and the 1.5 hours I did was great now back to the workshop for a few months!! There were many different aircraft flyin over the weekend and nothing hp for performance can get near the kr I can't wait!!! cheers Ross _________________________________________________________________ Get Extra Storage in 10MB, 25MB, 50MB and 100MB options now! Go to http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-au&page=hotmail/es2 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:30:58 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: Re: KR> kr2S flying To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000b01c420f6$f9a377e0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, How was the cockpit comfort? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Evans" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: KR> kr2S flying > HI guys I have just got home from narromine (natfly) Austrailia I flew gary > morgans kr2S with 27 foot wings and and extra foot of horizontal stabilizer > it has an aeropower vw 2180 and cruises easy at 115knots. I flew the > plane upto 140 knots and it is a dream to fly! I am getting closer > with my plane and the 1.5 hours I did was great now back to the > workshop for a few months!! There were many different aircraft flyin > over the weekend and nothing hp for performance can get near the kr I > can't wait!!! cheers Ross > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Extra Storage in 10MB, 25MB, 50MB and 100MB options now! Go to > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-au&page=hotmail/es2 > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:40:12 -0500 From: "Stowers" Subject: Re: KR> O200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There are two O200 here in duncan, Ok. for sale. I believe the price is 4,500 with all acc. ( They are in trade-a-plane ) Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s flynredneck@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Evans" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: RE: KR> O200 > Hi gavin 0200's are expensive little engines there is on for sale in > brisbane for about 17 000 to zero time in excess of 25 000 cheers > ross > > > >From: "Gavin Donohoe" > >Reply-To: KRnet > >To: "KR builders and pilots" > >Subject: KR> O200 > >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:52:44 +1000 > > > >HI All, > >I'm shying away from the EJ22 now in favour of the Continental O200 > >for weight reasons. Trouble is over here in Australia it's hard to > >get one (O200). Are they hard to get in the US as well? If not who > >would be able to > >help me find one and organise shipping to Australia? > > > >Gavin > >Australia > >PS we don't get Corvairs here or I might have one of them instead > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004 > >_______________________________________ > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: > http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:38:04 -0500 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: Re: KR> AS504x airfoil - ailerons To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008e01c42100$58a60b50$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Someone said - (sorry i did not follow completely) OK for a wing root but will be a poor choice for a control surface. >Aileron control forces will be high. It is a less than optimum choice >for an airfoil that is intended to be laminar over a wide range angle >of attack. So is it tested and understood that the farther out on the wing, the less of this "cusp or tuck" the better, as far as on the aileron goes? Has this been proven on other airfoils? Would you fill in the tuck, keeping the cord the same? Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:47:38 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> tailwheel help pls To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040412214738.008bf390@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Does anyone know what the minimum load and speed ratings for the KR2s >tail wheel is? >Joel ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Joel, Not seeing any other replys I'll throw something out. You're not going to have the tail on the groung above 50 mph or so and any tailwheel with approx a 200 pound rating should handle the load. This is very unscientific but it's the best I can do. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:07:08 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> CONTROL SURFACES To: larry.capps@comcast.net,KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040412220708.008bb320@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Below, would be the correct deflections required for the control surfaces, >as specified in the KR Manual. >CONTROL SYSTEM TRAVEL LIMITS >Vertical Stabilizer travel is 30 deg T.E.U. and 30 deg T.E.D. >Elevator travel of 30 deg T.E.U. and 20 deg T.E.D. >Aileron travel is 20 deg T.E.U. and 10 deg T.E.D. >Larry A Capps +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As I recall the question was how much does the control stick travel when aileron and elevator are at the limits. I forgot now who even asked the question. If I can remember I'll check my stick travel with my SmartLevel the next time at the airport. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:15:26 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> 2 pitot questions To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040412221526.008c2100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >My second observation was that the static port is located on the fuselage >side behind the pilot. Has anyone used this location for the static port? My >thoughts are that this would be a low pressure area??? >Dene Collett +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this case, there should be one on each side to equalize the pressure. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you have a static port on one side of the fuselage and it is located in a low pressure area I doubt if locating a second port on the opposit side in a low pressure is going to give you a good static source. The objective is to find a location that is neither high or low pressure, hence the term "static" pressure. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:20:32 -0500 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: Re: KR> CONTROL SURFACES To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c42106$475db360$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It was me - on the stick travel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: KR> CONTROL SURFACES > >Below, would be the correct deflections required for the control surfaces, > >as specified in the KR Manual. > >CONTROL SYSTEM TRAVEL LIMITS > >Vertical Stabilizer travel is 30 deg T.E.U. and 30 deg T.E.D. > >Elevator travel of 30 deg T.E.U. and 20 deg T.E.D. > >Aileron travel is 20 deg T.E.U. and 10 deg T.E.D. > >Larry A Capps > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > As I recall the question was how much does the control stick travel > when aileron and elevator are at the limits. I forgot now who even > asked the question. If I can remember I'll check my stick travel > with my SmartLevel the next time at the airport. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:22:50 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> 2 pitot questions To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00eb01c42106$9a167560$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Why could we not just terminate the static lines within the fuselage. This would have the static port completely out of the slipstream and in no high or low pressure area. These planes are not airtight enough to create either a high or low pressure inside the fuselage. ?????????? Just thoughts...all comments welcome. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 10:15 PM Subject: KR> 2 pitot questions > > >My second observation was that the static port is located on the fuselage > >side behind the pilot. Has anyone used this location for the static port? My > >thoughts are that this would be a low pressure area??? > >Dene Collett > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > In this case, there should be one on each side to equalize the pressure. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > If you have a static port on one side of the fuselage and it is > located in a low pressure area I doubt if locating a second > port on the opposit side in a low pressure is going to give > you a good static source. The objective is to find a location > that is neither high or low pressure, hence the term "static" > pressure. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:29:04 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Solenoid To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <00fc01c42107$78e6dd20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I fully understand the reasoning behind a starter solenoid but what is the true purpose of a continuos duty solenoid? It seams everything I have read on these really do not explain other than recommending using one. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 24 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================