From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 30 Date: 4/16/2004 5:50:19 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: O200 (Stowers) 2. temporary leave (joe) 3. Re: 2 pitot questions (Ray Fuenzalida) 4. Re: incidence angle and KR2 Simulation (Dene Collett (SA)) 5. Pitot (Martindale Family) 6. Re: Web page - pages (Norm Seel) 7. Updated story and pics of ZS-WEC (Serge F. Vidal) 8. Re: AS504x airfoil (gleone) 9. tail wheel spring. (Harold Woods) 10. Any projects close to manitoba?? (John) 11. engine (Hartman Malcolm L CMSgt 926 MXS/LGMV) 12. RE: tail wheel spring. (Murray Gill) 13. RE: tail wheel spring. (Dan Heath) 14. mistake 1500 (larry severson) 15. Re: mistake 1500 (Dan Heath) 16. Re: Pitot (Joseph H Horton) 17. Re: Rivets in wood (Phillip Matheson) 18. Re: Rivets in wood (Dennis Mingear) 19. Re: Pitot (Phillip Matheson) 20. Re: Pitot (larry severson) 21. Re: Rivets in wood (Phillip Matheson) 22. Re: mistake 1823 (Joseph H Horton) 23. Re: mistake 1823 (Dan Heath) 24. Re: Pitot (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:11:06 -0500 From: "Stowers" Subject: Re: KR> O200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here is the ad from Trade-A-Plane O200, 845 SMOH, compete w/accessories. $4500.00 O200, 1209 SMOH, compete w/accessories $4500.00 Duncan, Ok./ (580) 252-4233 Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s flynredneck@hotmail.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ross Evans" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:11 PM > > Subject: RE: KR> O200 > > > > > > > Hi gavin 0200's are expensive little engines there is on for sale > > > in brisbane for about 17 000 to zero time in excess of 25 000 > > > cheers ross > > > > > > > > > >From: "Gavin Donohoe" > > > >Reply-To: KRnet > > > >To: "KR builders and pilots" > > > >Subject: KR> O200 > > > >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:52:44 +1000 > > > > > > > >HI All, > > > >I'm shying away from the EJ22 now in favour of the Continental > > > >O200 for > > > >weight reasons. Trouble is over here in Australia it's hard to > > > >get one > > > >(O200). Are they hard to get in the US as well? If not who would > > > >be > able > > to > > > >help me find one and organise shipping to Australia? > > > > > > > >Gavin > > > >Australia > > > >PS we don't get Corvairs here or I might have one of them instead > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > >Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004 > > > >_______________________________________ > > > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > > >KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at > > > >http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: > > > http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > > KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at > > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:10:41 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: KR> temporary leave To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001401c42368$c8bcbdc0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks to the serious builders in this group for the many sound and real suggestions and helpful hints. I regret I must halt my KR project at the engine stage. Hopefully I will be able to continue at some future date. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:47:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> 2 pitot questions To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040416044746.43433.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now I'm concerned. I'llm take a look at it. If I'm going to relocate it, now would be the time. --- Mark Jones wrote: > Unless you have a very high vertical stabilizer it > will not work. My > propwash is full force at the top of the vertical. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Youngblood" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:10 AM > Subject: Re: KR> 2 pitot questions > > > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT), Ray > Fuenzalida > > wrote: > > > > > To continue with this theme, my pitot tube is > loctaed > > > at the top of the vertical stablizer. I'll try > to > > > start getting some photos set up. > > > Ray > > > > That's actually a pretty good spot! Lots of > sailplanes use that spot > > for Pitot tube mounting. It has the advantage of > being immune to > > hangar rash. (My pitot tube has hit several low > laying items in my > > hangar... > > a small bench table saw for one). > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:57:30 +0200 From: "Dene Collett \(SA\)" Subject: Re: KR> incidence angle and KR2 Simulation To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000d01c42366$dd677dc0$37e5fea9@telkomsa127179> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ameet, please include me in your list of people to receive the xplane file. thanks Dene Collett KR2S-RT builder Port Elizabeth South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ameet Savant" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Re: KR> incidence angle and KR2 Simulation > Hello, > > Sometime ago, Dan Heath and I did a X-plane simulation > of the KR2 as per plans built with a VW engine. That > plane does fly in a nose down attitude as Larry > describes. > > Keeping everything else same, I changed the wing > incidence and horizontal stab incidence as per Mark's figures, and the > KR2 seemed to fly in a much more normal attitude. Also, it seemed a > little less sensitive. But I didn't stretch it and I didn't use > the corvair.. so it is not an accurate model of Mark's > plane. > > The X-plane simulation is a work in progress, but Dan > and I haven't worked on it for sometime now. > > If anyone is interested in receiving the simulation > (X-plane 7.0+) email me off the net and I can email > you the current version of the plane. > > I don't have the S supplement so I can't model the S. > > Regards, > Ameet Savant > ameetsavant at yahoo dot com > > --- larry flesner wrote: > > It would seem to confirm the theory that the > > wing has too > > much incidence and that the 1.5 to 2 degrees that > > some are > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:23:04 +1000 From: "Martindale Family" Subject: KR> Pitot To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000401c4238c$dccc8100$75a0fea9@athlon2400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks On my earlier test flights I found my ASI was under reading by 8 knots at 120 knot cruise when the pitot/static were mounted as per the plans under the wing. I figured there was too much turbulance from the wheel spats and thus moved the assembly to a position some eight inches forward of the wing gap on the extended chord line. This nows gives me a much closer reading of true airspeed ( remember to adjust for temp and altitude) compared to GPS runs into and out of wind. Also the tubes cannot get bent by a flexing undercarriage!!! Don't ask how I know this can happen. Bingelis (an article I found on the web somewhere) suggests that the static can be fine tuned using a small O-ring on the tube either before or after the static hole. I'll try and find the site and post it shortly. Regards John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjane@chc.net.au ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 05:54:21 -0700 From: "Norm Seel" Subject: Re: KR> Web page - pages To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c423b1$f05c9780$266c3f04@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve, it seems to me that you are using Morse cables for controls. Am I interpreting this correct from your Web pages? Thanks. Norman Seel Brandon, FL norman.seel@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: KR> Web page - pages > Well here it is. I started pages at my regular family web site for > the plane build. This URL will take you right to the plane pages. > > I should say here that I do not plan to do a full build web page. I > do not want to take the time, nor do I feel we as a group need more pages of spar building, sanding etc. I will cover topics that I decided to do differently, or found little information on when I was researching a topic. > > Plans and information are in the works for a web page on thermo > forming that mysterious material called clear acrylic (Plexiglas). I am trying to get someone to draw cartoon characters for me (for free) and have had no luck. Anyone out there want recognition for this? > > > http://www.geocities.com/magoosus/plane.html > > > Steve McGee > Endeavor Wi. USA > Building KR2SW The Impostor > lmcgee@maqs.net > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:34:00 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" Subject: KR> Updated story and pics of ZS-WEC To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000601c42395$f3db20a0$2c0101c0@ate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Some of you may remember the story of my South African registered KR2, which transited through Tunisia (where I now live, and where aircraft are apparentlyt not welcome!), before ending up in Orleans, France. Well, last month, I did a trip to France in order to unpack the aircraft, prepare it for future inspection, and start the negotiation with the local airworthiness authorities. First job was to unpack the aircraft. Second job was to become a member of the local homebuilder's club, and to move the aircraft from my friend's pivate hangar to the club's hangar. Third job was to look for damages, and fix them. I was much concerned about the aircraft condition, since she went through two moves by container, and six months storage in a bad hangar at the Tunis harbor. Well, I found the damage to be fairly limited. Apart from the deeply encrusted pigeon sh**, that is. The tires were flat. I found a few corroded nuts and bolts, rusted disk brakes, rusted propeller hub. I inspected the inside of the engine cylinders, using a bore-scope that I had bought from Aircraft Spruce and had delivered directly to France. (I recommend that stuff. It's called Pro-Vision; it is a cheap fiber-optics bore-scope, that goes for about $250, depending on length and accessories, and works like a dream). Although I am no expert on engines, I found what I thought was only minor cylinder walls corrosion (even, and not too deep. I then sprayed liberally some WD-40 oil in the cylinders, turned the prop by hand many, many times over two days, then started the engine again. Works fine, sounds good. I also fitted the new throttle (this you may also remember), only to find that the cable does not fit anymore, and would have to be redone. Part of the plan was to drill inspection holes in the spars (another story you perhaps remember). Alas, my specially built long drill bits were lost by the airline, so, maybe next time... The French airworthiness inspectors were very helpful. We agreed on an inspection plan together, and I think there is good chance that I will be able to register that machine in France one day. Before I left, I preserved the engine again, spraying some more WD-40 in the cylinders, plugging all the holes, and fitting preservation spark plugs. These are home-made: I just fitted a tube to some spark plugs that I had emptied, then filled the tube with the best dessicant I could find (rice!), then plugged the tube. Then, somebody came along, asked a question about the ignition, so to show how the ignition works, I turned the prop... and the compression popped a tube open, and even popped the exhaust plugs! Compressions are still OK, then! Another job was to remove the South African registration marks. These being painted on, that proved to be a mission. But the local club is well equipped, so I could borrow an orbital sander, and it worked fine. But it is now obvious that I will have to repaint the bird. >From now on, until it gets a new registration, I will refer to my KR2 >as "Kilimanjaro Cloud", the name my wife chose for her. French registrations for homebuilts are F-P***, and you can choose the last three letters. I hope F-PLAY has not been taken yet! Anyway, to those interested, I have plenty pictures of the aircraft, the most interesting ones being of the engine, the interior, and the instrument panel. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC - Taildragger, VW powered (2.4 liter, dual electronic ignition) - Total aircraft time: 390h - Aircraft hangared at: Orleans, France - Pilot moaning in: Tunis, Tunisia E-mail: serge.vidal@ate-international.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 09:14:59 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: Re: KR> AS504x airfoil To: Message-ID: <407FF873.000004.03420@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This probably something Mark Langford could answer but will gladly accept any knowledgeable input. I'm building the KR-1. The 504x airfoil has been discussed for the KR-2S. How compatible, I wonder, is this airfoil with the KR-1? Gene Leone, Worland, Wyoming Why is Chelsea Clinton so homely? Because Janet Reno is her real father. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 04/16/04 07:19:42 To: gleone@rtconnect.net Subject: @SPAM+++++++++ Re: KR> AS504x airfoil You can also type in X/Y coordinates to modify a copy of an included airfoil. Just key over what's there to put in the coordinates for some airfoil not in Profili and it will render that airfoil. -Lloyd Schultz ================================================= Stephen Jacobs wrote: > >> I figured steve was talking through his neck - P51 wing section oh > >> yeah - well I the P51 section is there and I did the comparrison he > >> recommended - P51 against the AS 5046 - amazing > similarity > > Hey Monkey - no upper case on your KB???? > > Was gonna comment on your great spelling ability but what the hell - I > am really glad you looked at Profilli - great eh. > > Note that the software will let you draw the spar positions /depth > /width etc and plot them out in any size scale.- even the skin. > > Cheers > Steve J > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:52:12 -0400 From: "Harold Woods" Subject: KR> tail wheel spring. To: Message-ID: <001001c423db$8bebc170$0501a8c0@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Netters. You can take all the precautions that you want to create the perfect tail whel spring and find that it was in vain.Years ago a friend meticulously suitably hardened his to what was to be the correct hardnes. He was performing high speed taxi tests on a short runway with high rock and trees at one end. He cauciously accelerated and was almost at the end when he got his tail up. I suggested that he should go back as far as possible and give it full power, raise the tail , power back and run down the field tail up for a bit then slowdown. He said "come in with me" ( I knew that it was not legal for me to do so). He gave it full power but before he raised the tail we found ourselves at 20 feet up.The rock at the end looked like mountains! He cut the power but it kept on at 20 feet. He kept bringing the stick back to slow it down. I fealt the stall occur.The bottom dropped out, It hit fairly flat but hard. It bounced and eventually stopped. There was a new problem. The tail of the fuselage was dragging on the ground. The tail spring had broken into 5 pieces.To get it off the field we went to a local auto wrecker and had a temporary tail spring made. The man took an old auto spring,asked "where do you want the first bend". He applied the torch and bent it as necessary. "What about the bolt holes?" Zap with the cutting torch! We asked what about the tempering of the spring, to which he replied " It's as good now as before I heated it". He was right.We bolted it into place and got off the field. It worked perfectly and remained on the plane thereafter with out ever having any further problems. I sometimes wonder about all the fuss and blather that we worry about on some parts. Sorry about the long winded tale. Regards Harold Woods Orillia,ON.Can haroldwoods@rogers.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: John Subject: KR> Any projects close to manitoba?? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040416183216.75079.qmail@web60310.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was curious if there was a KR2 or KR2S project for sale in the manitoba area?? I was initially quite interested in Sonerai's but have found myself gravitating to the KR2 as a project. jbergen2003@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:34:51 -0500 From: Hartman Malcolm L CMSgt 926 MXS/LGMV Subject: KR> engine To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Anyone interested in a type IV engine for a 2 or 2S, mine is still available. I'm in the New Orleans area. Contact me off the net at Malcolm.hartman@neworleans.af.mil , (504)393-9133 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:52:50 +1000 From: "Murray Gill" Subject: RE: KR> tail wheel spring. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000301c423f4$c78ff7f0$2202a8c0@ABT2400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Interesting "tail" Harold. I wonder if anyone has done a tailwheel spring in carbon fibre. Would there be a weight saving in doing so? Murray Gill > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Harold Woods > Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2004 03:52 > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> tail wheel spring. > > > Hi Netters. > You can take all the precautions that you want to create the perfect > tail whel spring and find that it was in vain.Years ago a friend > meticulously suitably hardened his to what was to be the correct > hardnes. He was performing high speed taxi tests on a short runway > with high rock and trees at one end. He cauciously accelerated and > was almost at the end when he got > his tail up. I suggested that he should go back as far as > possible and give > it full power, raise the tail , power back and run down the field tail up > for a bit then slowdown. He said "come in with me" ( I knew that > it was not > legal for me to do so). He gave it full power but before he > raised the tail > we found ourselves at 20 feet up.The rock at the end looked like > mountains! > He cut the power but it kept on at 20 feet. He kept bringing the > stick back > to slow it down. I fealt the stall occur.The bottom dropped out, It hit > fairly flat but hard. It bounced and eventually stopped. There was a new > problem. The tail of the fuselage was dragging on the ground. The tail > spring had broken into 5 pieces.To get it off the field we went to a local > auto wrecker and had a temporary tail spring made. The man took > an old auto > spring,asked "where do you want the first bend". He applied the torch and > bent it as necessary. "What about the bolt holes?" Zap with the cutting > torch! We asked what about the tempering of the spring, to which > he replied > " It's as good now as before I heated it". He was right.We bolted it into > place and got off the field. It worked perfectly and remained on the plane > thereafter with out ever having any further problems. > I sometimes wonder about all the fuss and blather that we worry about on > some parts. Sorry about the long winded tale. > Regards > Harold Woods > Orillia,ON.Can > haroldwoods@rogers.com > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:01:25 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> tail wheel spring. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <408049A5.00000C.03172@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Carbon fiber is somewhat brittle, so I would not do that. I put an auto leaf spring on the Little Beast after the original got twisted. We have the normal spring on this KR, but it's extension is very short, so I am anticipating no problems with the spring. I just wish I had that tail wheel that I had on the Beast. I also think we worry about too many insignificant things, but who knows what is insignificant until you ask? See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:40:50 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: KR> mistake 1500 To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040416153133.02b76fa8@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I think that I have made every mistake possible. My 1500th (possibly) was in micro finishing. I found out that dry micro could be effectively thinned with rubbing alcohol, so I tried brushing it on. Worked great, BUT it left brush streaks that caused a great deal of sanding to remove. Finally, I realized that by using a squeegee while the micro is still wet I could remove the brush marks. What a difference. - almost no waste, little sanding, and a great finish. The alcohol evaporates rapidly and the micro really sticks. 1501 was trying to use plastic bolts to hold the blind nuts while floxing them to the aileron wood. Half of the bolts ended up stuck and broke. Finally I rolled a bolt in auto oil enveloped it in flox. After the flox hardened, the bolt came right out. Attaching the blind nots is now a snap. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:12:07 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> mistake 1500 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40806847.000001.01728@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" rolled a bolt in auto oil enveloped it in flox. After the flox hardened, the bolt came right out. Attaching the blind nuts is now a snap I know that y'all don't believe me, but you can easily attach blind nuts with rivets. Yes, even to wood. No muss, no fuss, and no worry about getting oil on something you don't want it on. There are many ways to skin that cat. Mistake number 1502 would be to use the floating type of blind nut. They will tear up your screws. Don't ask me how I know, but I think it was mistake 1305 for me. I am now on mistake 1823 which was trying to "post cure" my ailerons in my oven. We were told that we might be able to get them to be straight if we did that. One exploded and the other melted and bubbled. I then asked the expert, and he told me that 125 degrees is enough. That would mean that they had "post cured" a long time ago when they were up in the attic. What a bummer. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:00:02 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040416.200002.-373991.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain OK- how far out of the prop arc should the pitot be? Mine is about 10" outside the arc under the stub wing near the leading edge. Joe Horton Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:09:50 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Rivets in wood To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012d01c42410$4d807f40$c897dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" know that y'all don't believe me, but you can easily attach blind nuts with rivets. Yes, ----- Very true Dan My cowl mounts around the firewall, are riveted to the firewall, with washers on the inside. Looks neat, and seems to be OK. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:12:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Rivets in wood To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040417001208.70727.qmail@web12607.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did you use epoxy to strengthen/stabilize the wood fibers, just curious. Denny ... Phillip Matheson wrote: know that y'all don't believe me, but you can easily attach blind nuts with rivets. Yes, ----- Very true Dan My cowl mounts around the firewall, are riveted to the firewall, with washers on the inside. Looks neat, and seems to be OK. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:12:49 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <013501c42410$b88531f0$c897dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK- how far out of the prop arc should the pitot be? ---- Joseph I have heard many stories, so I put my tube 1/2 way out the outer wing, just to be on the safe, This is where the RV'S fit theirs. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:19:00 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040416171829.02b9de18@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Revmaster says 12". At 08:00 PM 4/16/2004 -0400, you wrote: >OK- how far out of the prop arc should the pitot be? Mine is about 10" >outside the arc under the stub wing near the leading edge. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:27:27 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Rivets in wood To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014701c42412$c398f890$c897dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Did you use epoxy to strengthen/stabilize the wood fibers, just curious. ----------------------- This was already done when I got it so , not sure of details. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:28:25 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> mistake 1823 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040416.202826.-373991.1.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Dan- Please tell me your only kidding about this. Joe Horton On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:12:07 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) "Dan Heath" > I am now on mistake 1823 which was trying to "post cure" my ailerons > in my > oven. We were told that we might be able to get them to be straight > if we > did that. One exploded and the other melted and bubbled. I then > asked the > expert, and he told me that 125 degrees is enough. That would mean > that > they had "post cured" a long time ago when they were up in the > attic. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:48:18 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> mistake 1823 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40807ED2.000003.01728@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe, Today is Friday, April 16. No, I am not kidding. It happened last weekend and it has taken me this long to stop crying. Never fear, I never quit. I am talking to Dan Diehl about getting some skins just for the ailerons. I don't think I can go through building another one from scratch. This time, their gonna be, and stay straight. I hope. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 04/16/04 20:32:16 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> mistake 1823 Dan- Please tell me your only kidding about this. Joe Horton On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:12:07 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) "Dan Heath" > I am now on mistake 1823 which was trying to "post cure" my ailerons > in my > oven. We were told that we might be able to get them to be straight > if we > did that. One exploded and the other melted and bubbled. I then > asked the > expert, and he told me that 125 degrees is enough. That would mean > that > they had "post cured" a long time ago when they were up in the > attic. _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:49:37 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40807F21.000005.01728@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We put ours about half way out on the outboard wing. That is where I had it on the Little Beast, and it worked very well. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 30 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================