From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 36 Date: 7/19/2004 8:53:48 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 0200 Installation help please... (Steve Glover) 2. Re: @CHECK++ KR> 0200 Installation help please... (gleone) 3. Re: 0200 Installation help please... (Phil Matheson) 4. RE: stability challenge (Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA) 5. Re: 0200 Installation help please... (Dan Heath) 6. 0200 Installation help please... (larry flesner) 7. Nose gear wanted (Al Doherty) 8. RE: 0200 Installation help please... (Steve Glover) 9. RE: 0200 Installation help please... (larry severson) 10. 66 Days to bliss!!! (Mark Jones) 11. Re: Nose gear wanted (F Ross) 12. Re: Wing incidence with RAF-48? (Scott Cable) 13. yet another AS&S debacle... (Mark Langford) 14. Still looking for a KR2S (michael laing) 15. Re: 0200 Installation help please... (Phillip Matheson) 16. Oil Leak (Colin & Bev Rainey) 17. Re: radio noise fixed! (Mark Langford) 18. Re: Oil Leak (Orma) 19. Re: Oil Leak (Mark Langford) 20. Re: looking for flying KR2S (mierz@wcoil.com) 21. looking to buy KR2S (michael laing) 22. Re: yet another AS&S debacle... (skphil@charter.net) 23. Re: 66 Days to bliss!!! (skphil@charter.net) 24. RE: Oil Leak (Steve Glover) 25. Re: yet another AS&S debacle... (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) 26. Re: @CHECK++ RE: KR> Oil Leak (gleone) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:40:02 -0700 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello All, Can anyone tell me if the engine mount for the Deihl accessory case mounts up to an 0200/C85 or do I need to fabricate a new mount? I am considering swapping out to the 0200 because I cannot seem to correct a major oil leak on the back of my VW case...(No, it isn't the oil seal). I am looking at all options so I can make the Gathering, to include converting to a new Revmaster. Any ideas or suggestions??? Thanks, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, CALIF. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:51:25 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: Re: @CHECK++ KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: Message-ID: <40FB615D.000001.01008@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The best thing to do there is ask Dan Deihl as he'd be the one who'd know best. I have a HAPI engine and mount and I know for the landing gear (nose wheel) Dan has a gear assembly made for the HAPI. He may have one for other engines. Gene, Worland, Wyoming When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 07/18/04 23:41:02 To: KRnet Subject: @CHECK++ KR> 0200 Installation help please... Hello All, Can anyone tell me if the engine mount for the Deihl accessory case mounts up to an 0200/C85 or do I need to fabricate a new mount? I am considering swapping out to the 0200 because I cannot seem to correct a major oil leak on the back of my VW case...(No, it isn't the oil seal). I am looking at all options so I can make the Gathering, to include converting to a new Revmaster. Any ideas or suggestions??? Thanks, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, CALIF. _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:26:10 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009701c46d72$6e7fb8e0$7a97dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve Some of the VW cases crack near the cyinder studs, and leak oil. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:03:50 +0200 From: "Kogelmann Christian - OS ETA" Subject: RE: KR> stability challenge To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <7CB9C3C96D41544392C841BF0461FEB58F51EA@sviemxs03.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would be interested to know what, if any, modifications your KR has that might be responsible for its better than average stability? Ken, I have a stock KR-2S and the modification I've just completed was a spanwise extension of the stock horizontal stabilizer. The extension is 15cm(6in) on either side. I've noticed this mod on an Austrian KR-2 build in 1986. His KR-2 is a single seat because he could not get the stability the authorities wanted. However with the tailvolume increase he managed to get within stability criteria as a single seater. I have experimented with foam and tape before glassing the extensions in place. The result is a trimable KR-2S. My KR now holds trimmed speeds just as Jeff describes. Flying old-fashioned and not being able to afford a fancy GPS a hands-off airplane is easier to navigate with charts.... Cheers -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+christian.kogelmann=aua.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+christian.kogelmann=aua.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Kenneth B. Jones Sent: Sonntag, 18. Juli 2004 02:10 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> stability challenge Jeff, I would be interested to know what, if any, modifications your KR has that might be responsible for its better than average stability? Is it a KR2 or 2S? Where was your CG vs the aft face of the forward spar (or some other reference) during the recent "hands off" stability check? Thanks, Ken Jones N5834 > Larry, et al, > > Just to make sure I wasn't halucinating about having flown my KR hands > off, yesterday morning I flew it hands off from Los Alamos to Taos, > NM. 50 miles. Could have easily gone much further. I climbed to > 9500', trimmed the plane for 150 mph cruise, then flew it hands off > for 50 miles using fuel transfer from the wings to the header tank to > keep the plane properly trimmed. I was able to maintain within 50' of > altitude for the trip. > > My CG is a bit more forward than most, which probably enhances the > stability. > > Jeff _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 06:27:21 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40FBA209.000011.04000@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve, I would check with Dan Diehl about the case. Is the leak coming from around the area behind #3? I had a crack in that area back when I had an 1835VW and had to get a new case. It leaks quite a lot when hot and will continue to seep out even when cool. Have you considered these engines? http://www.vw-engines.com/ I understand that they are Plug and Chug. "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:32:28 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040719073228.007ea100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Can anyone tell me if the engine mount for the Deihl accessory case >mounts up to an 0200/C85 or do I need to fabricate a new mount? >Steve Glover +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My 0-200 is mounted on a HAPI VW mount. I don't know how that matches up with the Diehl accessory case. Wish I could be of more help. Hope you get the problem solved and can make the Gathering. Good luck. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:05:56 -0500 From: "Al Doherty" Subject: KR> Nose gear wanted To: Message-ID: <000601c46d99$83909110$925d82d8@acerf7ke5hmde0> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi folks I've got a Soob installation in my Kr and need a nose gear. My Soob has the traditional oil pan so I need something that will fit around it. Let me know if any of you have a Diehl gear (or other) that's for sale. Any other suggestions or solutions would be appreciated. Thanks All Al Doherty ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:42:32 -0700 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I would check with Dan Diehl about the case. Is the leak coming from around the area behind #3? The leak is actually between the flywheel and crankshaft. After about 15 hours the gasket disintigrates. I have replaced the gasket 4 times and torqued the gland nut to the recommended 217 ftlbs. This thing is driving me crazy. I am getting pretty fast at removing the engine though.... Thanks for all of your replies. Hoping to make the Gathering. Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:51:47 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: RE: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040719075032.00ba60c0@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >The leak is actually between the flywheel and crankshaft. After about 15 >hours the gasket disintigrates. I have replaced the gasket 4 times and >torqued the gland nut to the recommended 217 ftlbs. This thing is driving me >crazy. I am getting pretty fast at removing the engine though.... What type of engine is it? I have found that the folks at both Revmaster and Great Plains very helpful at coming up with solutions. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:57:44 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> 66 Days to bliss!!! To: KR Net Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902AC7@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain The Gathering.....THE PLACE TO BE :-) Mark Jones ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: Re: KR> Nose gear wanted To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040719190250.73937.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Al Doherty wrote: > I've got a Soob installation in my Kr and need a > nose gear. > Any other suggestions or solutions would be appreciated. > Thanks All > Al Doherty Al, Visit my yahoo photo album at http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 click on the album "KRs" to look at some close-ups of Les Palmer's Soob installation and a couple of pictures of his nose gear. It may not be much help but might give you some ideas. I'm pretty sure it is home made, but don't know anything about it. These pictures are a couple of years old. ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/ ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:40:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> Wing incidence with RAF-48? To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040719194020.98762.qmail@web53009.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ducan & Mark: A little correction for Duncan: My project (that you're in-process of buying) has the Rand-Robinson Wing Skin Kit, not the Diehl wing skins. My plan was to use the 1 degree angle of incidence, not the 3.5 degrees called for in the plans. For Mark J and Others: For my project, I sorta copied / improved Mark Langford's adjustable horizontal stabilizer / elevator internal balance arm specificly to be able to adjust the angle of incidence to reduce drag. The possibility of elevator flutter was of concern for me because I was planning on a high output Vair powerplant. Other mods were a larger sq. in. rudder, and lower canopy height. Scott wrote: Duncan, I would not use the 3.5° that the plans call for unless you want to go through the air looking like a dolphin with your nose pointed down. There are a lot of things in the plans which should have been well researched before they were published. The RAF48 concept was borrowed from another design. Personally, I would set it somewhere between 1 to 2 degrees. But then that is just my 2 cents worth. > Hi, > I have been following the discussion occasioned by the AS-family or > aerofoils and the 1 degree incidence recommendation, but does this also > apply to aircraft fitted (or about to be fitted) with the RAF-48 airfoils > (ie the Diehl wing skins)? > > Regards, > > Duncan of Devonport > Auckland, New Zealand Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:42:14 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> yet another AS&S debacle... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006501c46dd0$dff4bd00$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Everybody that's every asked the question "where should I buy my aircraft stuff" has heard me go on and on about how great Wicks is, and how completely disappointed I've been with almost every order I've ever placed with Aircraft Spruce. I only order from AS&S when it's something Wicks doesn't carry. Well, here's another data point. I needed a flap position indicator, since my flaps are split and I can't see them from the cockpit. So I had to order the position sender from AS&S. I called them Friday the 9th to make sure they actually had it in stock. It took them almost 20 minutes to ascertain that indeed, they had exactly ONE in stock, in California. Since I was forced to order from them anyway, and it was too late to ship it out that day, I looked through the catalog and found some more stuff that Wicks doesn't carry and called them back on Saturday to order the sender and the other stuff. I was assured it was all in stock in the California warehouse and would ship on Monday, and just to make sure I had it in time for the weekend, I requested it ship 3 day UPS. They made me "confirm" through email that I REALLY wanted a $15 set of N56ML letters for my plane, and then on Monday called me to tell me that some of the switches I ordered were actually backordered, and would have to ship separate (hmm, didn't you say they were in stock on Saturday?). "Fine, just ship the rest." I was temporarily impressed that they bothered to call, but wondered why they didn't know that when I placed my order and they said it was all in stock. Thursday came and went, and so did Friday. The UPS man came today to deliver my Hooker Harness seat belts, but no AS&S shipment. So I called. After about 5 minutes on hold, I get "Gee, I don't know what's going on with that....I see the order but don't see where anything happened with it...these parts are all in stock in the Georgia store, and we'll send them right out to you, and pay the shipping". Great. If I'd never called, I'd NEVER have gotten them! My three day order just turned into twelve, and I still have the same opinion of AS&S, firmly rooted in past experience. I'd rather pay Wicks a tad more and face a slightly more limited selection, but get exactly what I ordered two days later, every time. I know....I'm just whining....but I feel better now! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:10:42 -0700 (PDT) From: michael laing Subject: KR> Still looking for a KR2S To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040719221042.95546.qmail@web54004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Im still looking for a KR2S to buy flying or not. If anyone knows of any for sale please let me know. thanks michael exlration@yahoo.com 3178563421 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:30:21 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> 0200 Installation help please... To: "KRnet" Cc: Ron Slender Message-ID: <003801c46de8$5c831030$0000fea9@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve Glover wrote The leak is actually between the flywheel and crankshaft. After about 15 hours the gasket disintigrates. I have replaced the gasket 4 times and torqued the gland nut to the recommended 217 ftlbs. This thing is driving me crazy. I am getting pretty fast at removing the engine though.... ------------------------------------------------- Contact my mate at VW engines Aust, He will may be able to help with the oil leak problems Ron Slender E-mail Address(es): rslender@smartchat.net.au email he the details, Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:12:04 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Oil Leak To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002e01c46dee$30089790$34442141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve It has been my experience that a crank leak is spawned by one of typically 2 problems: 1st the crank has too much clearance between it and the seal so that in a very short time of run in the seal leaks. 2nd the thrust bearing has excessive play and allows the crankshaft to "walk" too much which varies the point that the seal rides on and changes the seat too much. The seal then wears excessively and has no life. This is not a wear problem exclusive to any one engine, but virtually every engine I have ever worked on, at one point or another. A 3rd possibility is that you have insufficient lubrication of the seal when installing which before it seats it wears excessively. Also typically the surface where the seal rides must be polished in order to re-new the surface for good seal life and wear. Just my 2 cents.... Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:41:19 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> radio noise fixed! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00be01c46de9$e49b5850$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The other day I wrote that I'd fixed my radio noise problem with shielding, and all I needed to do now was "tidy up the installation". That took all day Saturday, and the last wire I hooked up (VOX enable) got my noise back again! Now I was starting to think bad radio, since I'd completely rewired it and had the same problem. But my EE buddy at work questioned my use of one of my shields as a ground wire for the VOX squelch. I came home and tried several other things first (with input from Jeff Scott), but eventually made the shield a floating ground and grounded the potentiometer to the panel, and now the noise really IS gone. So the moral of the story is to follow exactly what the schematic says, and pay particular attention to which end of the shields go where... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:32:52 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Leak To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c46df1$1877b220$0a2ad445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Another possibility is that there is an O ring seal is cut or missing from the inside of the flywheel. I'm not sure which type of engine is involved, but my type 4 has an O ring in the inner diameter of the flywheel. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Soon to celebrate 20 years ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:04:00 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Leak To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <021201c46df5$7aa97ec0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" He said "gasket", so I suspect he's not talking about the "flywheel seal" (which is fit to all air-cooled VWs and rides on the outside of the crank), or the "flywheel o-ring" (fitted to the latest) between the crank and flywheel, but the thin steel and or paper gasket that fits between earlier cranks and flywheels. Those are out of my area of expertise, but at least I know what you're talking about. All of my engines were new enough to use the o-ring instead of the gasket, so I usually just pitch 'em. Maybe you need them both, but I'm just guessing. One manual I have says "replace with the same (paper or steel) gasket type as you removed", so that certainly obfusicates things. I think you need professional help. Have you called Steve Bennett as GPASC yet? I just found an article at http://www.blueglue.com/archives/vintagvw/mhonarc/2002/08/msg00433.html that says "don't forget to use the Permatex trick if you're using a paper gasket", so I'd say there's your answer. I'd use the same stuff you join the case halves with on both sides and put it together promptly before it cures. There are other threads there you could follow too. I used Google Advanced with "paper gasket" in the exact field, and "crankshaft, flywheel, VW" in the "any words" field to find it. Maybe this'll help... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:00:51 -0400 From: "mierz@wcoil.com" Subject: Re: KR> looking for flying KR2S To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040719210051.0095d250@pop3.wcoil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mike , I have a flying kr2 for sale it is listed on barnstormers , take a look and call me if interested, kevin 419-649-4184 or email direct at mierz@wcoil.comAt 03:21 PM 7/7/04 -0700, you wrote: > >I am very interested in buying a completed and flying KR2S. Does anyone know of any that are for sale? I am motivated ready to buy the right one. > >thank you, >michael. >exlration@yahoo.com >3178563421 > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.693 / Virus Database: 454 - Release Date: 5/31/04 > -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.693 / Virus Database: 454 - Release Date: 5/31/04 ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:59:31 -0700 (PDT) From: michael laing Subject: KR> looking to buy KR2S To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040720015931.93165.qmail@web54010.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry I am only intersted in a KR2S Thanks for all the replies though. Michael --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 2:51:50 +0000 From: Subject: Re: KR> yet another AS&S debacle... To: KRnet Message-ID: <391to2$3ni3h0@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I ordered my spruce from Wick's and they have called me twice to tell me how the milling is going and then they sent me an email with ups tracking info. Talk about customer service. Now. for my ply. Wick's crating and Freight charges will be over $120.00. So. I will be driving to A,S, to pick up the ply in person. I can leave in the morning and be back for lunch. HOPE they really have the ply in stock. Only difference is the 1/4" birch is 5 ply not the 7 ply that Wick's sells. > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 3:02:49 +0000 From: Subject: Re: KR> 66 Days to bliss!!! To: KRnet Message-ID: <3a57qo$3qjls4@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can't wait. I just watched (again) the tape from the 1998 Red Oak gathering. (Art I'll return it soon, really.) I hope I can make it. Going to be a grandpa any day now...I'll try not to bring any pictures. Well only of the plane construction. P.S. If you have a tape of any past gatherings, go and get it and watch it you will be inspired to get to work. Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Alabama KR2S > > From: Mark Jones > Date: 2004/07/19 Mon PM 05:57:44 GMT > To: KR Net > Subject: KR> 66 Days to bliss!!! > > The Gathering.....THE PLACE TO BE :-) > > Mark Jones > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:11:16 -0700 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: KR> Oil Leak To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Well... I spoke with Steve at Great Plains and Dan Deihl. Nobody has ever experienced the problem I am having. When the last repair was made, we did coat the gasket with permatex, installed a new flywheel and gland nut from Steve at GP. THis time most of the gasket was still in place but it still leaks like crazy. Richard Shirley and I removed the flywheel and mag drive this afternoon. Here's what we found; Initial inspection indicated the oil is coming from behind the gland nut washer and around the dowel pin area. We removed the mag drive and Locking mechanism for the gland nut. After the last repair, Richard machined this nifty key lock mechanism with a new mag drive to prevent the gland nut from loosening up. Before removing the gland nut, the prop hub and flywheel were checked with a dial indicator and showed .003 run out. When removing the gland nut we found it to be torqued to only 25 ft lbs. This is the part we can't figure out. The gland nut was securely locked into place after torqing to 217 ft lbs the last time it was assembled. The nut cannot turn once the key is in place and was still in the locked position, however, the nut was loose??? The dowel pins are well below the surface of the flywheel. Inspection of the threads in the crank shaft showed they were flattened a bit but engage the gland nut by around .020. It doesn't appear that it is jumping threads under load. The only thing we can do next is a complete tear down. I was dreading this.... I'll keep you all posted just in case someone else has a similar problem in the future...go figure I get to be the first! Thanks for everyone's input... Regards, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 23:49:42 -0400 From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> yet another AS&S debacle... To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <78D054BD.0ED94C63.83FC6405@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In a message dated 7/19/2004 10:51:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:  So. I will be driving to A,S, to pick up the ply in person. I can leave in the morning and be back for lunch.  HOPE they really have the ply in stock.  Only difference is the 1/4" birch is 5 ply not the 7 ply that Wick's sells. > >> Yeah, and the 3/32 or 2.5 mill is 3 ply instead of 5 ply. Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ >> >> _______________________________________ >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:53:25 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: Re: @CHECK++ RE: KR> Oil Leak To: Message-ID: <40FC9735.000001.02424@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve, It may or may not make a difference, but was the case align bored? It's been more years (decades, actually) since I last worked on a VW engine, but I remember something about align boring the case during a rebuild for the main bearings and I think (I could be wrong) that may affect the leaking case issue. Maybe someone more savy with current VW experience can answer that. Gene Leone, Worland, Wyoming When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 07/19/04 21:11:41 To: KRnet Subject: @CHECK++ RE: KR> Oil Leak Well... I spoke with Steve at Great Plains and Dan Deihl. Nobody has ever experienced the problem I am having. When the last repair was made, we did coat the gasket with permatex, installed a new flywheel and gland nut from Steve at GP. THis time most of the gasket was still in place but it still leaks like crazy. Richard Shirley and I removed the flywheel and mag drive this afternoon. Here's what we found; Initial inspection indicated the oil is coming from behind the gland nut washer and around the dowel pin area. We removed the mag drive and Locking mechanism for the gland nut. After the last repair, Richard machined this nifty key lock mechanism with a new mag drive to prevent the gland nut from loosening up. Before removing the gland nut, the prop hub and flywheel were checked with a dial indicator and showed .003 run out. When removing the gland nut we found it to be torqued to only 25 ft lbs. This is the part we can't figure out. The gland nut was securely locked into place after torqing to 217 ft lbs the last time it was assembled. The nut cannot turn once the key is in place and was still in the locked position, however, the nut was loose??? The dowel pins are well below the surface of the flywheel. Inspection of the threads in the crank shaft showed they were flattened a bit but engage the gland nut by around .020. It doesn't appear that it is jumping threads under load. The only thing we can do next is a complete tear down. I was dreading this.... I'll keep you all posted just in case someone else has a similar problem in the future...go figure I get to be the first! Thanks for everyone's input... Regards, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 36 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================