From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 53 Date: 5/2/2004 3:16:09 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Type 4 buildup (Edward Seaman) 2. KR2S Specs (Ronald Metcalf) 3. RE: Todds Canopy (Stephen Jacobs) 4. Re: KR2S Specs (Dan Heath) 5. Re: Re: unsubscribe (Dan Heath) 6. KR2S Specs (larry flesner) 7. KR1 assist (Cellcool) 8. Re: Re: unsubscribe (Chrisvanbekkum@aol.com) 9. KR2SX (Brian Kraut) 10. RE: KR1 assist (Brian Kraut) 11. RE: KR1 assist (Dan Heath) 12. Re: KR2S Specs (Mark Langford) 13. RE: Re: unsubscribe (Kevin Angus) 14. Re: KR1 assist (Mark Langford) 15. Richard Shirley (kleirfall@ecomail.org) 16. RE: Richard Shirley (Brian Kraut) 17. Firewall (Raybeth321@wmconnect.com) 18. Re: Firewall (Jim Morehead) 19. Re: KR2S Specs (Phil Matheson) 20. Re: Todds Canopy (Phil Matheson) 21. Re: Re: unsubscribe (Eduardo Iglesias) 22. RE: Todds Canopy (Stephen Jacobs) 23. KR2S Materials (Rex Ellington) 24. KR2S Specs - thanks (Stephen Jacobs) 25. Re: Todds Canopy (Phil Matheson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 07:10:17 +0100 (BST) From: Edward Seaman Subject: Re: KR> Type 4 buildup To: orma , KRnet Message-ID: <20040502061017.68813.qmail@web25106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Good day Orma I have been following your engine history with great interest - particularly the excellent service you had in round one. (500+ hours?) Is it correct to say that the suspected missing #4 bearing has emerged in the form of the rear part of the hub and that this is in fact an intrinsic part of the design? It appears to have worked very well. Are you not bothred by the recent utterings re the potential for failure at the non-drive end - even if the hole /threads are taken beyond the weak point in the crank. You seem to have the knowledge and experience in engines, why have you not taken this opportunity to drive off the drive-end of the VW. My comments are not intended as criticism, I am asuuming that there will be serious answers to these questions. Edward ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 01:55:23 -0500 From: "Ronald Metcalf" Subject: KR> KR2S Specs To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I have been reading back through the archives trying to get some handle on the KR performance. I found amazing quantities of brilliant information (and plenty of the other), but I do not see any information to substantiate the 200 mph claim - anywhere. The typical KR2 /2S apears tp be stretched a few inches (no great effect on speed); widened a bit (some effect on speed) and the retract gear changed for fixed legs of both species. I have read (Krnet) that faired legs /wheels on a tail dragger present less drag than the original gear - I can easily see that. Most have more power that the prototype. Ok, most are a bit heavier (some a lot heavier) but these birds are well within the original spec when flown solo. I figured the Italian Kr with a good motor /prop combo and pretty neat configuration and weight would be up there - no bananas. It is such a sweet little bird, so it is probably not an issue - but what sort of cruise can I expect from 80hp (cruise hp)? Ok - how long is a piece of string - assuming RAF section, 625lbs empty, KR2 plus 14 aft and 4 fwd plus 7" width (wide bit moved back to wing TE), tail feathers 008; TD u/c - all else stock. Gound adjustable propeller. Ron _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:14:32 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Todds Canopy To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c43015$213da0f0$e264a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Got my new Canopy a few days ago I now have my Dan Diehl wings finished ........................................... Isssssssh mate - what did it cost to import these bits - airfreight I presume? How was the canopy packed? I have been trying to get a package size /weight from DD for exactly that - skins /legs /canopy. I have not heard from the hoop pine man yet - should I contact him? Take care Steve ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 07:02:34 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Specs To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4094D54A.000001.02880@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron, Given that configuration, my guess is 135 to 145. From the information that I have seen over the years, the 2S drops 10 to 15 mph from the 2. Decide up front if you want speed or comfort and be happy with what you get. That weight and width are going to cost you. Get more horses if you need speed. Oh, and add more weight to your specs. I promise you, you won't get both in this plane. There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- It is such a sweet little bird, so it is probably not an issue - but what sort of cruise can I expect from 80hp (cruise hp)? Ok - how long is a piece of string - assuming RAF section, 625lbs empty, KR2 plus 14 aft and 4 fwd plus 7" width (wide bit moved back to wing TE), tail feathers 008; TD u/c - all else stock. Gound adjustable propeller. Ron _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 07:07:08 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4094D65C.000003.02880@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Antonio, That is no reason to us-subscribe. You can even write in Spanish and there are many people all over the world who will understand you. I can understand your English a lot better than you could understand my Spanish. But if you want to un-subscribe, you have to do it yourself. No ones does that for you. There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/01/04 22:00:05 To: KRnet; -leave@mylist.net Subject: KR> Re: unsubscribe UNsubscribe me from KRnet. Sorry mi english y very bad Thank you Antonio Desimone > _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 07:37:35 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> KR2S Specs To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040502073735.007fd100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Ok - how long is a piece of string - assuming RAF section, 625lbs >empty, KR2 >plus 14 aft and 4 fwd plus 7" width (wide bit moved back to wing TE), tail >feathers 008; TD u/c - all else stock. >Gound adjustable propeller. >Ron +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= This is like guessing "how many beans in the jar"! I'd have to agree with Dan, 135mph cruise and add another 50 to 75 lbs to the empty wt. 7"s to the width tells me you're a pretty good sized person. You'll want an extra foot or two on the wing span. I'm a bit disappointed with my climb rate with the 0-200 and standard wing less 8 inches. I'm getting 800 to 900 FPM and 156mph cruise. I was looking for 1000FPM and 160+ cruise but I'm 765 empty, 24" stretch, taller canopy, 30" gear 160+ legs with no pants as of yet. I'll get the 160+ cruise with pants but I running at 2600rpm so I'm probably getting 90 hp at cruise. Ken's 180mph cruise was up high with a VW turbo and a claimed 480 lbs empty wt. To my knowledge, no one else in the history of the KR2 has made such optimistic claims. That doesn't mean the "average" KR isn't a show stopper. I'm having a ball in mine. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:14:16 +0200 From: "Cellcool" Subject: KR> KR1 assist To: Message-ID: <002401c43049$3b903970$010a0ac4@john> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Folks, I need some assistance I have broken down the outer wings of the KR1 ( they were not assembled correctly as I could not align the tips square to the fuselage and the WAF's were not positioned correctly) and am now re-assembling them and cannot find the references to align the outer plywood rib. The book says 3 deg nose down to the inboard rib and with the alignment mark on the fuselage as per drawing 1. I cannot find the mark on drawing 1 or anything on the fuselage (I didn't assemble the fuselage) Is this a mark horizontal to the cockpit sill or is there a particular reference that was supposed to have been made when the fuselage was assembled. Thanks John ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:34:29 EDT From: Chrisvanbekkum@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <9f.4701a16b.2dc652e5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:38:34 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> KR2SX To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have thought long and hard and spoke to several people and have finally decided what direction to head in with my new 2S project. I will go with the new airfoil. I will change the angle of the landing gear bracket to a few more degrees vertical than the Stock Diehl to give me more ground clearance. I will also make new bottom brackets that are longer and have a different angle due to the leg angle change. I discussed this with Dan Diehl and he agrees that this would be better than just using longer legs. Since I will be using the thicker airfoil I can angle the mounting bracket on the spar, but I will probably just weld up new ones and sell the old ones. I thought of using big flaps in the outboard wings like Mark did, but I don't think I want to do that much extra work. After a lot of thought on flaps and belly boards I am back to my original plan I came up with 16 years ago when I bought my first set of KR plans. I am going to keep the flaps in the stub wings, but I will make each stub about 8" longer. The flaps will also have more chord, almost all the way to the aft spar. I don't know why they were not designed with more chord to begin with, probably because they would hit the ground with the original short retract gear. The flaps will be carbon fiber, and possibly also the rest of the wing. I will do some more thinking on if I will change the chord or span any to maintain the original aspect ratio and wing area or change it slightly. Making the stub wings longer does a lot for me. I get bigger flaps, I have a much stronger wing, I will have room to keep all my fuel in the stub wing tanks. I would be interrested to hear if anyone else has extended the stubs. The elevator spar is already built shorter than the stab for less elevator surface area. I will keep it like this and add and internal elevator ballance. I will also make a removable piece aroung the elevator and rudder area for working on it like Steve Jones did. Engine will most likely be a Corvair, unless I happen to find a great deal on a Jabiru 3300 or Rotax 914. Now back to finishing the ceramic tile in the kitchen so I can get it out of the garage where it is in the way of the plane. Next weekend I will paint and carpet my spare bedroom so I can get that carpet out of the garage also. After that I will tear down the divider wall I put in the 2 car separate garage so the plane and all the junk in the attached 1 car garage can go in there while I finish my office in the 1 car garage. Then a bunch of stuff will go back in the 1 car garage or on the storage space I am building above it. Then I can get to working on the plane. I knew it would be a month or two before I touched the plane, but now I have time to completely plan everything, sell the parts I don't need, and buy what I do need. Anyone in the market for a completed forward spar? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:42:05 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> KR1 assist To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The inboard rib should have been aligned to the cockpit sill. 3.5 degrees incidence for the 2, I don't know what it was on the 1. You should be able to align the outboard tip to the sill also, as long as you are sure the inboard was done per plans. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Cellcool Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:14 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> KR1 assist Folks, I need some assistance I have broken down the outer wings of the KR1 ( they were not assembled correctly as I could not align the tips square to the fuselage and the WAF's were not positioned correctly) and am now re-assembling them and cannot find the references to align the outer plywood rib. The book says 3 deg nose down to the inboard rib and with the alignment mark on the fuselage as per drawing 1. I cannot find the mark on drawing 1 or anything on the fuselage (I didn't assemble the fuselage) Is this a mark horizontal to the cockpit sill or is there a particular reference that was supposed to have been made when the fuselage was assembled. Thanks John _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 10:00:36 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> KR1 assist To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4094FF04.00000F.02880@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Why would it not be aligned to the chord line of the stub wing? There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 09:42:57 To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> KR1 assist The inboard rib should have been aligned to the cockpit sill. 3.5 degrees incidence for the 2, I don't know what it was on the 1. You should be able to align the outboard tip to the sill also, as long as you are sure the inboard was done per plans. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 11:51:24 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Specs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011201c43065$b47d57c0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ronald Metcalf wrote: > I have been reading back through the archives trying to get some > handle on the KR performance. I found amazing quantities of brilliant > information (and plenty of the other), but I do not see any > information to substantiate > the 200 mph claim - anywhere. Drag reduction is the key. Roy Marsh had a thinner wing and a Revmaster 2100 Turbo engine that put out over 80 hp. Knowing him, his wastegate was probably welded shut for even more power. His son is an aeronautical engineer, and he paid close attention to drag reduction during design and construction. He won a race at an average of 195 mph (sorry, I forget the details). But he also had a high landing speed due to his choice of airfoil. Take a look at Troy Petteway's KR2 (see http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ktroyp.html ). It is stock width and length, with larger horizontal stab and smaller elevator, and has a massaged 0-200 under the cowling. He has fairings on everything possible. He's constantly striving to reduce drag. His plane will do more than 220 mph. He also says his plane is the easiest flying taildragger he's ever flown or landed, and I assure you, he's not only flown, but owned just about all of the standard types. Steve Alderman has a similar plane and even more radical 0-200 engine (the yellow one at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/redoak2003/), and it too will push 220 mph. Speed takes power and more importantly, low drag. If you get enough power under the cowling, and pay particular attention to drag reduction, you too can go fast. I think what separates the "squirrely" KRs from the ones that go fast, are a blast to fly, and easy to land is attention to details in stuff like CG location, rigging the wings, control surfaces, and landing gear. If you just slap your gear on, without checking all the details, you're probably going to visit the weeds, and then chalk it up to insufficient training, or a bad design. I'm not saying there's no place for quickly built, lightweight, slow flying, gas sipping KRs built by the plans. But if you want to go fast, it's not a secret how to get there... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 10:56:34 -0600 From: "Kevin Angus" Subject: RE: KR> Re: unsubscribe To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Try using: http://world.altavista.com/babelfish >From English to Spanish: Antonio, Esa no es ninguna razon nosotros-de suscribir. Usted puede incluso escribir en espanol y hay mucha gente todo sobre el mundo que le entendera. Puedo entender su ingles mucho mejor que usted podria entender mi espanol. Pero si usted desea un-suscribir, usted tiene que hacerlo usted mismo. Ningunos hacen eso para usted. Reversed: Antonio, That one is not no reason we-of subscribing. You can even write in Spanish and is much people everything on the world that will understand to him. I can understand its English far better that you could understand my Spanish. But if you wish a-to subscribe, you must make it you same. No do that for you. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:07 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe Antonio, That is no reason to us-subscribe. You can even write in Spanish and there are many people all over the world who will understand you. I can understand your English a lot better than you could understand my Spanish. But if you want to un-subscribe, you have to do it yourself. No ones does that for you. There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/01/04 22:00:05 To: KRnet; -leave@mylist.net Subject: KR> Re: unsubscribe UNsubscribe me from KRnet. Sorry mi english y very bad Thank you Antonio Desimone > _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:43:38 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KR1 assist To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012601c4306d$0089dce0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" John wrote: > The book says 3 deg nose down to the inboard rib and with the > alignment mark on the fuselage as per drawing 1. I cannot find the mark on drawing 1 or anything on the fuselage (I didn't assemble the fuselage) < I showed how to do this at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/owings.html . Level the fuselage and use the chord line of the airfoil template drawings to set the angle. If there are no templates or a chord line drawn on the outer ribs, draw a line from the farthest forward part of the nose through the trailing edge and you'll be very close. And like Dan said, make sure they are correct with respect to the stub wings also. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 12:33:54 -0600 From: kleirfall@ecomail.org Subject: KR> Richard Shirley To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1083522834.40953f1237d6c@www.ecomail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does any know how to get a hold of Richard Shirley? I wanted to find out the exact specs on his plane and what kind of cost it would be. Thanks Kris <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< This email comes to you via EcoMail! Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* account ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 15:30:37 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Richard Shirley To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I tried to get ahold of him about six months ago to see if I could talk him into doing my first flight test and I came up with his work and home number, but he was on vacation. I decided to do my own first flight, so I never called him back. If I remember correctly, I got his address off of the FAA directory from his N number, then used an online phone directory to find his number. If you can't find it let me know and I will look for his numbers if I still have them. I heard that he has sold the KR. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of kleirfall@ecomail.org Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:34 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Richard Shirley Does any know how to get a hold of Richard Shirley? I wanted to find out the exact specs on his plane and what kind of cost it would be. Thanks Kris <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< This email comes to you via EcoMail! Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* account _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 16:06:04 EDT From: Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Subject: KR> Firewall To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1a6.23837c72.2dc6aeac@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I say up front that I have not checked the RR handbook lately. I will be putting the Firewall together in the near future and I am checking on bonding agents. I plan to use T88 fot the wood to wood---Fiberfrax cement for wood to fiberfrax----and ???? for St. Stl. to Fiberfrax. Any suggestions and /or comments? You may reply on the following E-mail address. Ray Goree Arlington, Tx. raybeth321@wmconnect.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 13:51:59 -0700 From: Jim Morehead Subject: Re: KR> Firewall To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ray, I used Permatex High-Temp RTV Silicone 26B. around the outside edge to hold the SS steel to the Fiberfrax. It is good for 650 deg. F. It just has to hold things in plae until you get the motor mount bolted on. Later I cut the fiberfrax back about 1/8 inch then mixed up some resin and flox and filled it in. When cured. sand it down. It makes a clean edge. Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA on 5/2/04 1:06 PM, Raybeth321@wmconnect.com at Raybeth321@wmconnect.com wrote: > I say up front that I have not checked the RR handbook lately. I will > be putting the Firewall together in the near future and I am checking > on bonding agents. I plan to use T88 fot the wood to wood---Fiberfrax > cement for wood to fiberfrax----and ???? for St. Stl. to Fiberfrax. > Any suggestions and /or comments? You may reply on the following > E-mail address. Ray Goree Arlington, Tx. > > raybeth321@wmconnect.com _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:45:37 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Specs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005001c4308e$e0946f50$9597dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron. I do not know all the answers for your question, but I do think 100 hp would be much better suited for a KR of this size. It sounds like a very nice sized KR. http://www.vw-engines.com/ Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 07:48:46 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Todds Canopy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006801c4308f$51770e30$9597dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Stephen Canopy was $300us, and by the time Customs, freight, GST took their bit, it was $900Aust. I'm chasing the quote for the wood as we speak. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:56:29 -0300 From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012901c43090$5ecb4460$45bc3fc8@iglesias> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For Antonio Only for better information Antonio Si tenés alguna duda hacémelo saber y te lo cuento. Si necesitás alguna traducción me presto para hacerla con mucho gusto. Cordialmente Eduardo Iglesias Santa Rosa La Pampa emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:07 AM Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe > Antonio, > > > > That is no reason to us-subscribe. You can even write in Spanish and > there are many people all over the world who will understand you. I > can understand > your English a lot better than you could understand my Spanish. > > > > But if you want to un-subscribe, you have to do it yourself. No ones > does that for you. > > > > There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired. > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: KRnet > > Date: 05/01/04 22:00:05 > > To: KRnet; -leave@mylist.net > > Subject: KR> Re: unsubscribe > > > > UNsubscribe me from KRnet. > > Sorry mi english y very bad > > > > Thank you > > Antonio Desimone > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:03:34 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Todds Canopy To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c43091$50f01900$7a64a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Phil Ok, so the canopy cost around US$ 660 - a bit more than double to land it. Was it crated or in a cardboard box? Did you import the DD wing skins - if so, what was freight on that? Airfreight? Take care Steve ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:05:54 -0500 From: "Rex Ellington" Subject: KR> KR2S Materials To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <03ce01c43091$a5ca8280$d93ff504@D6R1QJ11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good Day Netters: As noted in my short missive a month ago, I ran out of time. Other obligations have taken over so that I will not be able to complete my project. Here are the items for sale - as a package. Dwgs. Original 'huge' KR, 1982; KR2, 1986, RAF 48 wing & controls; KR2-S, 1992 Dwg A, B; 1993, Dwg W1,2,3; 1994, Dwg. F1, W2, C1, W1 F4, F3, F2. 2-Firewall; 5048/5 Airfoil templates. KR Kit: WAFs; complete bolt & fittings; turnbuckles, bolts & pulleys, RR sling seats, 2 coils A/C control cable; 1 engine oil separator, grommets, 4 bulls eye air vents, 1 metal gas collator, 8 seat belt fittings, 1 fuel ball valve, cable pulleys, 1 new Hobbs meter, 1 qt. glass slurry beads, 1 bag flox, 1 suction gauge, 1 Alcor EGT gauge, 1 3-way fuel valve, 1 fuel primer pump, 1 bag lead shot (elevator balance). 1/2 gal West system epoxy and hardner w. pumps. Fabricated 2-stick 4130 control assy, 2 4130 rudder pedal assy w. Langford brake pedals. 1 sheet 7-ply 7 mm Birch plywood 48 x 48, 5 sheets 3 mm 5-ply Birch plywood 48 x 48. 1 KR2-S 80% comp. boat stage framework (rectangular cross-section, repeat rectangular) 42 in. wide at shoulders. Plus: 1972 - 1992 Sport Aviation, and 1 WWII pilots carrier, dead reckoning plotter board w. E6B computer. KR notebook, catalogs, manuals, 1 Bingelis Book, many diskett jpegs KR pictures, I file drawer articles, notebooks of articles, {more materials and information than most have at boat-stage.} Rex T. Ellington 27 mi. South of center Okla. City, 1/2 mi East of intersection of State Hwy 9, and I-35, between OUN Westheimer and David J Perry strip. Early discussions by email, then I'll give phone number. rtecg@telepath.com 2609 Barry Switzer Ave. Norman, OK 73072 ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 00:12:44 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> KR2S Specs - thanks To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000101c43092$9b49f3d0$7a64a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Troy Petteway's KR2 ....massaged 0-200..... His plane will do more than 220 mph Steve Alderman has a similar plane...radical 0-200 engine ... will push 220 mph ....................................... Really glad someone asked - I like the answer. I accept that a quick KR will take some dedication and compromise - but it can be done - thanks. Both were using the old section (at the time) - maybe the new sections make it a tad easier. I was surprised at the exaggerated elevator trim on Steve Aldermans (yellow) airplane in one of the pics from the attached URL - anyone know why? Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:15:16 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Todds Canopy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b501c43093$04b1e670$9597dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry Stephen I did not bring them in, but I believe they were crated, 6 in one crate, Todds took care of the packing. I did not import my wingskins etc. I purchased a incomplete KR with the Dan Diehl wingskins and trigear. Not sure, but I think the canopy came by sea, much cheaper. I'll try and find out for you. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 53 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================