From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 54 Date: 5/2/2004 9:00:29 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: KR2S Specs - thanks (Mark Langford) 2. Re: Mass Balance (Phil Matheson) 3. Re: Speed Converter (Phil Matheson) 4. flight report (larry flesner) 5. Re: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks (gleone) 6. Re: Re: unsubscribe (Ray Fuenzalida) 7. RE: KR2S Specs - thanks (Brian Kraut) 8. Re: @SPAM++++++ (Dan Heath) 9. BoB Sauer's latest photo. (Mark Jones) 10. Re: (gleone) 11. Re: KR2S Specs - thanks (JEHayward@aol.com) 12. String (Pat Driscoll) 13. Re: KR2SX (TNCOMPRESSORMAN@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:37:07 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Specs - thanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <018001c43096$0056c250$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve J wrote: > Both were using the old section (at the time) - maybe the new sections > make it a tad easier. Troy's wouldn't break 200 mph with the VW engine and the old wing. The higher speeds came about after adding the new airfoil and the 0-200. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 08:57:01 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Mass Balance To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c001c43098$da253410$9597dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This subject has had a lot of airing, Someone had a shot at my comments for a 5 G strong mass balance arms and mounting points. I was looking at Mark L's photo's of the gathering and noted his comments on Marties near disastrous elevator jamming by his broken baggage Box support brackets. We must be very careful and make ALL our mounting brackets and parts to a strong and safe quality. Marty was very lucky, but it had not turned out so well, they would properly never found a cause of the fault, only to say another Home Built Aircraft has crashed. ( Thank God it turned out OK) We may not all pull 6 G's, but look at what can happen if the little things are not strong enough. I lost a friend a short time back in a Corby Starlet, a Forced landing and it tipped over, with no roll over protection he did not have a chance. If any one is interested in the article and Picture please contact me, and I'll sent it direct. Safe Flying Please. All the best to you ALL. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 09:10:26 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Speed Converter To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d901c4309a$b9f19290$9597dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Off topic. But a very simple speed conversion site http://www.almg.com.au/calcs/speed_calc.htm Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 18:51:18 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> flight report To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040502185118.007c37e0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve and Netters, I did ( or tried to do) the flight test today that Steve requested. That test was the glide speed at the cruise trim setting. I must confess, I weenied out. I had the KR set up in cruise and trimmed out. I brought the power back to idle. I assumed the glide speed would be maybe in the 120 mph range (I didn't have a clue) so I held the nose up to bleed the speed off a bit. At about 120 smph indicated I slowly released the stick and let it center to the air loads. The nose dropped to a rather steep angle and as the airspeed went through 145 indicated I took the stick and came out of the dive. Soooo, the speed is somewhere above 145 smph indicated. There was no indication at 145mph that the nose was going to come back up. I'll have to try it again and not slow it down from cruise so maybe the nose won't drop so far. I swear the view through the windshield looked just like the view through the windshield of a Super Decathalon doing a spin without the rotation! What's your best guess on what the speed might be if I try it again or what would a good "ballpark" figure be? How many more test do you have in mind? The local clothing store is having a sale on mens "briefs". I'm thinking a six pack for the baggage compartment might be in order. :-)) I'm still waiting for smooth air to finish my climb test and I have yet to carry any weight to simulate a passanger. I need to quit having so much fun and get some testing done. 42.7 HOURS AND LOVIN' IT !!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:10:39 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: Re: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks To: Message-ID: <40958DFF.000001.02652@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe I've missed something here, but isn't the Vne 200 mph???? Why would anyone want to drive it beyond Vne? When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 16:13:18 To: 'KRnet' Subject: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks Troy Petteway's KR2 ....massaged 0-200..... His plane will do more than 220 mph Steve Alderman has a similar plane...radical 0-200 engine ... will push 220 mph ....................................... Really glad someone asked - I like the answer. I accept that a quick KR will take some dedication and compromise - but it can be done - thanks. Both were using the old section (at the time) - maybe the new sections make it a tad easier. I was surprised at the exaggerated elevator trim on Steve Aldermans (yellow) airplane in one of the pics from the attached URL - anyone know why? Steve J _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 17:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040503001315.55422.qmail@web42008.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The main comment is correct. More people understand than you think. There are also programs for automatic translation. Nunca sabes quien puede entender Espanol. Ray --- Eduardo Iglesias wrote: > For Antonio > > Only for better information > > Antonio > > Si tenés alguna duda hacémelo saber y te lo cuento. > Si necesitás alguna > traducción me presto para hacerla con mucho gusto. Cordialmente > Eduardo Iglesias > Santa Rosa La Pampa > > emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Re: unsubscribe > > > > Antonio, > > > > > > > > That is no reason to us-subscribe. You can even > write in Spanish and there > > are many people all over the world who will > understand you. I can > understand > > your English a lot better than you could > understand my Spanish. > > > > > > > > But if you want to un-subscribe, you have to do it > yourself. No ones does > > that for you. > > > > > > > > There is a time for building and a time for > flying, and the time for > > building has long since expired. > > > > > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on > the pics > > > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > > > From: KRnet > > > > Date: 05/01/04 22:00:05 > > > > To: KRnet; -leave@mylist.net > > > > Subject: KR> Re: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > UNsubscribe me from KRnet. > > > > Sorry mi english y very bad > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Antonio Desimone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:16:06 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> KR2S Specs - thanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I spoke to Troy just yesterday. He told me his cruise speed is about 185-190 Knots, yes, Knots. He also said he will be at this years gathering. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Jacobs Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 6:13 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR> KR2S Specs - thanks Troy Petteway's KR2 ....massaged 0-200..... His plane will do more than 220 mph Steve Alderman has a similar plane...radical 0-200 engine ... will push 220 mph ....................................... Really glad someone asked - I like the answer. I accept that a quick KR will take some dedication and compromise - but it can be done - thanks. Both were using the old section (at the time) - maybe the new sections make it a tad easier. I was surprised at the exaggerated elevator trim on Steve Aldermans (yellow) airplane in one of the pics from the attached URL - anyone know why? Steve J _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:18:31 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Re: @SPAM++++++ To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40958FD7.000001.03792@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gleone, Do you suppose you could do something about this subject line " @SPAM++++++ " There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 20:11:21 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks Maybe I've missed something here, but isn't the Vne 200 mph???? Why would anyone want to drive it beyond Vne? When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 16:13:18 To: 'KRnet' Subject: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 19:23:52 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> BoB Sauer's latest photo. To: "Corvaircraft" , "KR Net" Message-ID: <00c801c430a4$e9f16e20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ladies and Gentlemen, Bob Sauer has just furnished me with a current photo of his KR Corvaircraft. He is getting pretty close to that first flight. I have added his photo to the following link on his plane. Check it out: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/Sauer.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:39:35 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: KR> Re: To: Message-ID: <409594C7.000001.03328@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry, it's a program that intercepts and sorts the mail and puts different "things" in the subject line. I forgot to delete that part of the subject. The program is SecretMaker and is free (they accept donations but it's not necessary to use the thing). What it does is list messages as "spam" when they are received from a group. Another notation is "@WL" which is the white list". Anyway, this program eliminates 99% of all my "popups" as well as all the spam I used to receive. I'll try to remember to edit the subject" line. The link for the program is www.secretmaker.com, if anyone is interested. When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 18:19:05 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: @SPAM++++++++ KR> Re: $SPAM++++++ Gleone, Do you suppose you could do something about this subject line " @SPAM++++++ " There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 20:11:21 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks Maybe I've missed something here, but isn't the Vne 200 mph???? Why would anyone want to drive it beyond Vne? When you give a lesson in meanness to a critter or a person, don't be surprised if they learn their lesson. -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/02/04 16:13:18 To: 'KRnet' Subject: @SPAM++++++ KR> KR2S Specs - thanks _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:02:02 EDT From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2S Specs - thanks To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <127.3fc76ee4.2dc7021a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 5/2/04 4:34:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time, N56ML@hiwaay.net writes: << Troy's wouldn't break 200 mph with the VW engine and the old wing. The higher speeds came about after adding the new airfoil and the 0-200. >> Any rough idea of how much was contributed by each one? Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:13:08 -0500 From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: KR> String To: "KR Mailing list" Message-ID: <002c01c430b4$2efa0400$348dd440@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Since no one answered the first question,(How long is a string?) I would like to submit my answer. A string is twice as long as it is from one end to the middle. Pat Driscoll patrick36@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:32:59 EDT From: TNCOMPRESSORMAN@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2SX To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1d4.207f6dd7.2dc7095b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Brian, My center spars are 10', with flaps, fuel tanks, between spars (14+ gallons each) be prepared to change aileron actuation arangement as the original belcranks are on rear of spar where you want your flaps. Riley Collins Rutledge, TN In a message dated 5/2/2004 9:39:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, brian.kraut@engalt.com writes: > Making the stub wings longer does a lot for me. I get bigger flaps, I > have a much stronger wing, I will have room to keep all my fuel in the > stub wing tanks. I would be interrested to hear if anyone else has > extended the stubs. > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 54 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================