From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 70 Date: 8/13/2004 8:59:43 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: primer solenoid (larry flesner) 2. Re: Not a KR, but pretty amazing (Dan Heath) 3. Re: Turboprop Power (Dan Heath) 4. RE: solid pop rivets (Dana Overall) 5. Re: solid pop rivets (Mark Jones) 6. solid pop rivets (Stephen Jacobs) 7. RE: solid pop rivets (Mark Jones) 8. Re: Not a KR, but pretty amazing (cartera) 9. solid pop rivets (Stephen Jacobs) 10. Re: Turboprop Power (Wesley Scott) 11. Hurricane Charley (Colin & Bev Rainey) 12. RE: Hurricane Charley (Stephen Jacobs) 13. Re: fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks (Ray Fuenzalida) 14. RE: fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks (Mark Jones) 15. wicks 2004-2005 catalog (Flymaca711689@aol.com) 16. Re: fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks (robert glidden) 17. wicks 2004-2005 catalog (larry flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 05:09:07 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> primer solenoid To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040813050907.00835100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Larry Flesner wrote: My 0-200 generally fires on the second >or third blade. For the sake of science I'll go to the airport and >varify that this morning. :-) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mission completed. Everything still working fine and another hour on the KR. 84+ now.............. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:33:43 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Not a KR, but pretty amazing To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <411C9907.000001.02068@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: HD3D and Zoom Zoom Adrian, What is HD3D and Zoom Zoom? "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:44:19 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Turboprop Power To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <411C9B83.000003.02068@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anybody price one of these set ups? I'll bet the adjustable prop will cost more than the entire VW or Corvair set up. "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 08/12/04 16:06:29 To: KRnet Subject: KR> Turboprop Power You say you want go fast horses? How about 255 hp and 188 pounds? Check out this site http://innodyn.com Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD USA Sidney.wood@titan.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:57:19 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: KR> solid pop rivets To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" > >AS&S and Wicks sell solid pop rivets, not much more than the standard >rivets at Lowes As I mentioned in the earlier post, I listed the exact AN pop rivet number to suit the alum. thickness and sealability. The "solid" pop rivet looks like a Lincoln hat so that when you pull the mandrel, which does not extend through the head, you don't end up with a hole in the rivet. I'd be hard pressed to believe Lowes would carry such an animal. Remember, the wheel has already been invented:-) If you call Van's and give them the rivet number I listed, it'll show up at your door with no problem. They are not just a supplier of metal airplanes, they have a pretty nice selection of hardware. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:08:56 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> solid pop rivets To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001d01c48125$edee3180$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wick's also carries the exact AN part number for the pop rivet Dana lists. It is not listed in their catalog but they have it. As a matter of fact, they have a lot of things which are not in the catalog. Just ask and you may be surprised. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:57 AM Subject: RE: KR> solid pop rivets > >From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" > > > >AS&S and Wicks sell solid pop rivets, not much more than the standard > >rivets at Lowes > > > As I mentioned in the earlier post, I listed the exact AN pop rivet number > to suit the alum. thickness and sealability. The "solid" pop rivet looks > like a Lincoln hat so that when you pull the mandrel, which does not extend > through the head, you don't end up with a hole in the rivet. I'd be hard > pressed to believe Lowes would carry such an animal. Remember, the wheel > has already been invented:-) > > If you call Van's and give them the rivet number I listed, it'll show up at > your door with no problem. They are not just a supplier of metal airplanes, > they have a pretty nice selection of hardware. > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > do not archive > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:00:46 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> solid pop rivets To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c4812d$2e94ed80$3064a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is the solid pop rivet be set by the same tool (as the regular pop rivets)? What is a nico tool? Have a great weekend Enjoy Larry Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:38:53 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: RE: KR> solid pop rivets To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902AFC@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain Yes, solid pop rivets use the standard pop rivet gun. A nico tool is a pressing tool which squeezes oval sleeves on control cables to secure them. As in Nico Press. Mark Jones -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Jacobs [mailto:askies@microlink.zm] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:01 AM To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR> solid pop rivets Is the solid pop rivet be set by the same tool (as the regular pop rivets)? What is a nico tool? Have a great weekend Enjoy Larry Steve J _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:43:53 -0600 From: cartera Subject: Re: KR> Not a KR, but pretty amazing To: KRnet Message-ID: <411CB789.6060101@spots.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Good Morning Dan and Group, These are 3D model planes that can vertically and do all kinds of stunts, waterfall, harrier, etc. Send me an email and I can get your address and will send you some attachments of the models I have. Take Care and Happy Flying! Dan Heath wrote: > RE: HD3D and Zoom Zoom > > Adrian, > > What is HD3D and Zoom Zoom? > > "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the > time for building has long since expired." > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > . > -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@spots.ab.ca http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:04:05 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> solid pop rivets To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000401c4813e$68467560$d464a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A nico tool is a pressing tool which squeezes oval sleeves on control cables to secure them. +++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Mark ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:36:21 -0500 From: "Wesley Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Turboprop Power To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001e01c4814b$4bb80d20$69a60a04@pbrain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From the innodyn.com website under the products link 165TE 165 hp $26,500 185TE 185 hp $28,000 205TE 205 hp $29,500 255TE 255 hp $34,500 not including mount or propellor. Firewall forward kits are available from their partner Rivers Aeronautical. www.riversaeronautical.com Not really. the RV6A mount is in prototype stage. >From RA: "We are currently estimating the price at $12,500. ... The kit includes an engine mount, dual stack stainless steel exhaust, intake plenum, cowling, controls and instrumentation, electrical components, fuel components, and all required technical manuals." And this still doesn't include the propellor. -- wesley scott kr2@spottedowl.biz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: Re: KR> Turboprop Power > Anybody price one of these set ups? I'll bet the adjustable prop will cost > more than the entire VW or Corvair set up. > > "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the > time for building has long since expired." > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRnet > Date: 08/12/04 16:06:29 > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Turboprop Power > > You say you want go fast horses? How about 255 hp and 188 pounds? Check > out this site http://innodyn.com > Sid Wood > Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 > Mechanicsville, MD USA > Sidney.wood@titan.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:45:46 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Hurricane Charley To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d601c48154$fb6babb0$69ee0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Gang Hurricane Charley is coming so I will be off the net for a few days due to the Sheriff's Office bringing all of us in for disaster relief coordination. I am heading to the airport now to check on arrangements for the KR but N96TA may have to ride things out on the ramp tied down! Say a little prayer for her as she may have the ramp to herself. Anyone here in Florida my prayers are with you also. Now hold on tight cause here he comes! Do not archive Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 19:29:11 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Hurricane Charley To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002a01c4815b$0f9eaa00$d464a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good luck to everyone in the region (and their airplanes) - God be with you ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040813174818.38009.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's the kind of thing that you should bring to the Gathering so that everybody who might need to see it (or copy it) can do so. I already have aluminum tanks but it would be interesting to see how yours differ from mine. Ray VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: Aeronca has a 10 gallon tank about just right for the KR2/s. Filler cap and gauge included. Used $50/75, new $100?. I think it is used on the Chief, Virg On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:44:05 -0400 "Dana Overall" writes: > Gang, if you want to totally avoid any of these issues go with alum. > It was > a little over a year ago I documented a construction technique for > KR > builders. Although the documentation is of wing tanks, it is easily > adapted > for a header tank. Mark Langford posted my word.doc file somewhere, > maybe > someone can chime in with the location. With Mark Jones supplying > the money > and me the alum work, we used the exercise as a means to provide KR > builders > a very doable alternative in consideration of the varying additives > in fuels > today. Mark Jones now has the project tanks in his wings. It is a > very, > very easy process using solid head pop rivets, thus no bucking, and > provides > a non degradeable tank that will last a lifetime. I provided a list > of > required rivets, supplies, fittings, tubing. If you use this method > I would > encourage you not to "roll your own" and follow the instructions for > a tried > and true method. > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > do not archive > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:18:45 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: RE: KR> fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902B01@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain I did take the tanks that Dana made for me to the Gathering last year for all to see. However, they are now inside my wings so I can not bring them this year. Mark Jones -----Original Message----- From: Ray Fuenzalida [mailto:ray_pilot@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:48 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks That's the kind of thing that you should bring to the Gathering so that everybody who might need to see it (or copy it) can do so. I already have aluminum tanks but it would be interesting to see how yours differ from mine. Ray VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: Aeronca has a 10 gallon tank about just right for the KR2/s. Filler cap and gauge included. Used $50/75, new $100?. I think it is used on the Chief, Virg On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:44:05 -0400 "Dana Overall" writes: > Gang, if you want to totally avoid any of these issues go with alum. > It was > a little over a year ago I documented a construction technique for > KR > builders. Although the documentation is of wing tanks, it is easily > adapted > for a header tank. Mark Langford posted my word.doc file somewhere, > maybe > someone can chime in with the location. With Mark Jones supplying > the money > and me the alum work, we used the exercise as a means to provide KR > builders > a very doable alternative in consideration of the varying additives > in fuels > today. Mark Jones now has the project tanks in his wings. It is a > very, > very easy process using solid head pop rivets, thus no bucking, and > provides > a non degradeable tank that will last a lifetime. I provided a list > of > required rivets, supplies, fittings, tubing. If you use this method > I would > encourage you not to "roll your own" and follow the instructions for > a tried > and true method. > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > do not archive > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:55:31 EDT From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: KR> wicks 2004-2005 catalog To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <15d.3c6a1f23.2e4e84c3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" some respect for the kr2 on the cover marty roberts kr and mark jones kr2s way to go guys allso two in formation on the inside of the catalog . mac n1055a ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:21:29 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010901c48183$e1e50cc0$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Come on Mark you can open one wing back up for us can't you?Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: RE: KR> fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks > I did take the tanks that Dana made for me to the Gathering last year for > all to see. However, they are now inside my wings so I can not bring them > this year. > > Mark Jones > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Fuenzalida [mailto:ray_pilot@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:48 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> fuel tank resins.-Now Fuel Tanks > > That's the kind of thing that you should bring to the Gathering so that > everybody who might need to see it (or copy it) can do so. > I already have aluminum tanks but it would be interesting to see how yours > differ from mine. > Ray > > VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: > Aeronca has a 10 gallon tank about just right for the KR2/s. > Filler cap and gauge included. > Used $50/75, new $100?. I think it is used on the Chief, Virg > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:44:05 -0400 "Dana Overall" > writes: > > Gang, if you want to totally avoid any of these issues go with alum. > > It was > > a little over a year ago I documented a construction technique for > > KR > > builders. Although the documentation is of wing tanks, it is easily > > adapted > > for a header tank. Mark Langford posted my word.doc file somewhere, > > maybe > > someone can chime in with the location. With Mark Jones supplying > > the money > > and me the alum work, we used the exercise as a means to provide KR > > builders > > a very doable alternative in consideration of the varying additives > > in fuels > > today. Mark Jones now has the project tanks in his wings. It is a > > very, > > very easy process using solid head pop rivets, thus no bucking, and > > provides > > a non degradeable tank that will last a lifetime. I provided a list > > of > > required rivets, supplies, fittings, tubing. If you use this method > > I would > > encourage you not to "roll your own" and follow the instructions for > > a tried > > and true method. > > > > > > > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > > Richmond, KY i39 > > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > > Finish kit > > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > > do not archive > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury > Miami ,Fl > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:25:54 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> wicks 2004-2005 catalog To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040813172554.0083bbc0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >some respect for the kr2 on the cover marty roberts kr and mark jones kr2s >way to go guys allso two in formation on the inside of the catalog . >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The nice looking Acro Sport on the front cover with the offset sunburst paint scheme on the top wing is the one I fly formation with in my KR. He gets tired of hearing I'm only pulling about 1850 rpm and burning about 3 gph while he's pulling 2350 rpm and burning 8 gph. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 70 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================